Suing neighbor over wi-fi

> Interesting, I had never heard of this about ALA other than it being an
> antioxidant that helps regenerate other antioxidants.

Yes, for folks with heavy metal problems, ALA should not be viewed
as an antioxidant, but rather a chelator. The half-life of the
chelating is typically around 3 hours, so taking it every 3 hours
keeps the metals moving out of the body, rather than just being
moved around and redeposited within the body (or at least,
that's the theory). There is moving around after the last
dose on the third day, but that can't be helped (unless you
can stand taking it continuously, which is probably not
likely or practical)

Marc

Hello Stewart,

you cannot change antennas from one meter to another.
Certainly the Cornet does not have a calibration factor for another antenna
as well as the cable.

Did you *install* the right type of antenna as well as the cable on the
Spectran?
Did you upgrade the hardware to Version 2.2 ?

Trying to find those 5.8 GHz modems with a setting of 5280 with zero span is
not right.
Why don't you use a laptop with the excellent LCS software. Than you can
measure around 5.15, 5.25, 5.47 and 5.725 GHz.
And you can look more specifically, and change settings more easily.
And quite other frequency bands, and read the totals of each frequency band.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
checked by Norton




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Any validated research on this?




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Sent: Sun, 4 April, 2010 8:57:27
Subject: Re: [eSens] ALA

 
> Interesting, I had never heard of this about ALA other than it being an
> antioxidant that helps regenerate other antioxidants.

Yes, for folks with heavy metal problems, ALA should not be viewed
as an antioxidant, but rather a chelator. The half-life of the
chelating is typically around 3 hours, so taking it every 3 hours
keeps the metals moving out of the body, rather than just being
moved around and redeposited within the body (or at least,
that's the theory). There is moving around after the last
dose on the third day, but that can't be helped (unless you
can stand taking it continuously, which is probably not
likely or practical)

Marc




     

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I've taken ALA now for more than two and a half years. I did a year and a half and then stopped for two years. I started again in February of last year and began doing it continuously several months after than. So I've been doing a continuous round for almost a year now. Since January I have gone to using only R-ALA and no longer use regular ALA at all. I know now that some of the side effects that I got from doing ALA were from the ALA brand itself. If I forget to toake my R-ALA to work with me and then buy some regular ALA somewhere or use the back up ALA in the car then I get side effects that I no longer get from using R-ALA continuously. Not saying that you won't have a bad reaction to chelation with R-ALA. But you should have less with R-ALA.

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> Any validated research on this?

I generally don't pay much attention to "validated research", as so much
of it is wrong. For example, I understand that there is research
proving that ES does not exist. :-)

However, I do note that there are 2 YahooGroups:

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/adult-metal-chelation/
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/frequent-dose-chelation/

These have over 3,000 members and a sum total of 100,000 messages
over the past 9 years, with plenty of examples of people completely
recovering from mercury poisoning when other methods just made them
worse. Also, I have tried many chelators over the years, and confirm
that ALA causes all the negative same side effects (when taken in
doses higher than your body can stand) that the other chelators do.

There are also books based on this at:

http://noamalgam.com/

Frequent dose chelation is often referred to as "The Cutler Method", as
it was Andy Cutler who came up with the idea and wrote the original
books.

Many people on these groups are convinced that this is the *the only
way* to cure oneself of mercury poisoning. And while I will not go
that far, I will say that it definitely seems to be *one* way, and
also perhaps the least expensive way.

Marc

> I've taken ALA now for more than two and a half years. I did a year and
> a half and then stopped for two years. So
> I've been doing a continuous round for almost a year now.

Have you been taking it every 3 hours continuously for a year?!

And have you gotten better during that time?

> I know now that some of the side effects that I got from doing ALA were
> from the ALA brand itself.

And which were the "good" brands to take and which were the
"bad" ones?

I briefly tried DHLA (which is supposed to be even better than
R-ALA), but found the side effects too nasty to continue with,
even though it was obviously (and immediately) helpful for my
ES symptoms.

Marc

> Frequent dose chelation is often referred to as "The Cutler Method", as
> it was Andy Cutler who came up with the idea and wrote the original
> books.

By the way, there is a very recent online audio interview with Andy
Cutler here:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/thecandystore/2010/03/15/special-guest-andrew-hall-cutler-phd-pe

This is primarily about mercury in vaccines and autism,
but there is also discussion on ALA being used as a mercury chelator.
Also, it appears that Andy's original thinking involved using DMSA
+ ALA, but from this interview and from the discussion groups, it
seems that the current thinking is that DMSA is optional, and ALA
is the only thing "required" to overcome mercury poisoning.

Marc

Thanks for the info because I had just ordered a bottle

--- On Sat, 4/3/10, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:

Good to know, i can order a bottle of that

--- On Sun, 4/4/10, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Thanks for the info because I had just ordered a bottle

Just remember, if ALA makes you feel bad almost immediately,
that means the dosage is too high. And I've seen people
on those chelation groups that can only stand taking 1 mg
at a time, which is far less than the 600 mg capsules you
may find at your local store. In these cases, one should
probably assume that the person is extremely poisoned.
In fact, anyone with electrical or chemical sensitivities
could probably be classified as extremely poisoned, as
the symptoms of mild or moderate poisoning aren't as
bad. And for people with extreme poisoning, you should
expect that your initial tolerance will be less than
normal (that is, less than 10 - 25mg every 3 hours),
and that the amount of time it takes to get better
will be longer than normal (that is, longer than 1 - 2 years).
Plus, you will likely need more "support" supplements
to control symptoms while in the process of getting
better.

Marc

What are the support supplements?

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> What are the support supplements?

That would vary depending on the person, depending on whatever
symptoms you are experiencing. For example, someone who is
having anxiety might take one thing, while someone else who
has skin problems might take something else.

Basically, most of the supplements we talk about on this
group are the sorts of supplements that people take to
feel better while searching for a "cure".

Marc

I'm sure whatever I need I already have in my vitamin store i call a kitchen cabinet

--- On Sun, 4/4/10, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:

Since we've had some discussions lately on power filters and
meter readings, I grabbed a few things lying around the house
and did some tests. All tests were conducted on a single
outlet (with an outlet multiplier so everything could be
plugged in). My noise source was a vacuum cleaner either
plugged into the outlet or plugged into a filtering
power strip. I also tested some "parallel" filters which
filter the power without anything being plugged into them.

Interestingly, the conclusions reached with the Stetzer
meter are completely different than the conclusions
one would reach with the Entech. And my personal
experiences of what reduces my ES symptoms don't
agree with the conclusions one would reach from
any of these meter readings (which is why I usually
don't care what the meter says).

Baseline reading: Stetzer=120, Entech=20
No vaccum, Furman PST-10D plugged in: Stetzer=83, Entech=7
No vacuum, Quantum outlet plugged in: Stetzer=100, Entech=44
No vacuum, Blue Circle Power Line pillow plugged in: Stezter=80, Entech=0.1
No vacuum, PS Audio Noise Harvester plugged in: Stetzer=108, Entech=0.4
No vacuum, Tripp Lite Isobar (new) plugged in: Stetzer=155, Entech=6
No vaccum, Power Sentry power strip plugged in: Stetzer=113, Entech=58

Vacuum turned on, no filtering: Stetzer=1540, Entech=121
Vacuum on, plugged into Furman PST-10D: Stetzer=399, Entech=7
Vaccum on, plugged into Quantum outlet: Stetzer=1400, Entech=130
Vaccum on, Blue Circle Power line pillow plugged in: Stetzer=499, Entech=3
Vacuum on, PS Audio Noise Harvester plugged in: Stetzer=680, Entech=0.4
Vacuum on, Tripp Lite Isobar (new) plugged in: Stetzer=584, Entech=6
Vacuum on, plugged into Power Sentry power strip: Stezter=104, Entech=0.5

I also tried the Quantum Pro and also a Quantum Life HomeFree (knockoff
product), and both were the same as the baseline readings.

Marc

PUK replies - Regarding Plasma Tvs, lets be sure on this one, they are not
all equal, if anyone can find such a scenario that I am subject to with the
Pioneer Plasma TV then let me know. There are several here in my
neighbourhood, none of which can so discernibly be detected in my home as the
latter. It is a plasma TV on steroids !!!! see my youtube vids Plasma TV RFI
affecting electrosensitiive.


In a message dated 02/04/2010 18:12:24 GMT Daylight Time,
[hidden email] writes:

I'm cured enough that I don't worry about my neighbor's wi-fi or plasma
TV (and living in the city, my neighbors are CLOSE. Three tall/skinny
houses where one house use to be. And one of my neighbors has at least
2 large plasma TVs that I can see through their window -- you can tell
that they are plasmas by how the doesn't change with viewing angle).



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Puk replies - What if the problem is genetic ?


In a message dated 02/04/2010 18:09:23 GMT Daylight Time, [hidden email]
writes:

Yes, but as Charles and others have pointed out, that sensitivity can
be reduced. What some people don't seem to realize is that they are
suffering from a health problem -- a health problem that is exacerbated
by EMF exposure. So one cannot blame 100% of their symptoms on the
wi-fi transmitters and cellphone towers. They have to take some of
responsibility themselves, as a healthy person would likely not notice
anything from those same wi-fi transmitters and cellphone towers.



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Puk replies - its not next door its over the road in a house 40m away !
The radiation travels through the mains cables in the street and the phone
cables and then in the air its a viscious circle. Have you seen my You tube
vid - Plasma TV RFI affecting electrosensitive ? parts 1 and 2


In a message dated 02/04/2010 16:49:58 GMT Daylight Time, [hidden email]
writes:

Yes I agree PUK. Wow, I didn't realize that a tv emf would travel next
door. Loni




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Hi You can see my youtube vids by acessing PAULBOOKHAM1, if you listen to
my poetry please dont hang yourself.


In a message dated 02/04/2010 16:04:50 GMT Daylight Time,
[hidden email] writes:

Do you have the link for the youtube demo?

A



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Puk replies - His only concern was wether the TV is legal, nothing else.
there is a cold heartedness about this man that borders on disfunctional, I
have done all I can and now just bide my time and bear my cross !


In a message dated 02/04/2010 15:48:29 GMT Daylight Time,
[hidden email] writes:

But for your problem to be solved fast, could you somehow talk to your
> neighbor? If you'd give him an LCD-screen in exchange of his
> plasma-screen the problem would be solved emf-wise?

"Give" your neighbor a several thousand dollar television? He
could buy an awful lot of EMF protection for that!

Also, some people think plasma TVs look better than LCDs, so
that might be a hard sell...

Marc



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Puk replies - thanks for your empathy, although he is not my neighbour he
lives over the road, that how powerful his TV is that it can enter our homes
from such a distance and swamp everything with the signal. Please see
youtube vid. access under PAULBOOKHAM1


In a message dated 02/04/2010 15:27:25 GMT Daylight Time,
[hidden email] writes:

Paul,

Your neighbor deserves to be sued that's for sure, and some extra
attention to ES-ers would be a good thing...

But for your problem to be solved fast, could you somehow talk to your
neighbor? If you'd give him an LCD-screen in exchange of his plasma-screen the
problem would be solved emf-wise?

Stephen.




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