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PUK replies - dont forget the massive explosion in the use of wireless
technologies in the last 20yrs and so on... sadly these technologies violate are bodies and we have no choice in the matter, its not barking at the moon these are man-made violations which are increasing exponentially month by month. Perhaps an analogy would be the classic movie cliche where the human race is suddenly noticed by aliens cos its reached a certain level of technology and has begun to become more conspicuous Noisy in the univerese. There was a trigger point and tipping point, perhaps for many of us it was the explosion in mobile telecoms, as the straw that broke the camels back - boiled frogs ! In a message dated 11/04/2010 16:18:50 GMT Daylight Time, [hidden email] writes: That's my 2 cents. I just think you're barking up the wrong tree. I agree. I spent 40 years of my life NOT being ES. And only a few years being extremely ES. If there is a genetic component, it certainly seems like something that may not ever surface, and if it does, can be overcome. Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Re: supplements for ANS (formerly EMS Genetic?)
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Do you think it works better as a powder? Loni
--- On Sun, 4/11/10, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] supplements for ANS (formerly EMS Genetic?) To: [hidden email] Date: Sunday, April 11, 2010, 11:40 AM > I am taking Hydrogen Boost & I do feel it gives me some energy. Loni Hydrogen Boost is almost becoming one of those rare supplements that "works for everyone" (?) I'm using H-Minus from e3Live, which is essentially just a bulk powder version of Hydrogen Boost. Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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I picked up some pantothene. Loni
--- On Sun, 4/11/10, Steve G <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Steve G <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Cal AEP and pantethine To: [hidden email] Date: Sunday, April 11, 2010, 2:22 PM Thanks Diane. I'm using the Pantothenic acid right now, will add the calcium after I get it in my order. I'll give it a shot. --- On Sun, 4/11/10, Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com> wrote: > From: Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Cal AEP and pantethine > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > Date: Sunday, April 11, 2010, 12:32 PM > Hi Steve, > > I just sent an email explaining how I take--with meals at > first, then later in protocol during/after exposure. But > as to pantothenic acid--it didn't work for me like the > pantethine does. I can't say, tho, that it wouldn't work > for someone else. Just telling you what *did* work for > me. Same with dosage--not saying less won't work; less > doesn't work for me. > > Diane > > --- On Sun, 4/11/10, Steve G <torch369@yahoo. com> > wrote: > > > From: Steve G <torch369@yahoo. com> > Subject: Re: [eSens] EMS Genetic? > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > Date: Sunday, April 11, 2010, 2:47 PM > > > > > > > Diane, > are there certain times of the day or night you take the > calcium aep and pantethine? > Does it have to be pantethine, how about just pantothenic > acid? > Steve > > --- On Sun, 4/11/10, Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com> > wrote: > > > From: Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com> > > Subject: Re: [eSens] EMS Genetic? > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > > Date: Sunday, April 11, 2010, 9:38 AM > > Hi Cheryl, > > > > Yes, fatigue--exhaustion , really--has been a > life-long > > problem for me, also. It wasn't till my > nutritionist > > suggested CalAEP and pantethine 5 years ago that I was > able > > to overcome it (mostly overcome it--I still have > short > > periods of great fatigue). I was home/bed-bound for > 13 > > years straight due to exhaustion, and for many years > before > > that off and on. I had signs of a type of ES from > early > > childhood (among other serious medical problems)--I > shocked > > and fried things, couldn't wear watches, felt like I > was a > > "capacitor". .... It wasn't till a toxic pesticide > event 4 > > years ago that I came down with all of the symptoms > most > > people have here. Before that, tho, I also had > autonomic > > nervous system symptoms that I now know were caused by > emf > > exposure (esp to magnetic frequencies) for many, many > > years. The ANS disorder symptom of plummeting blood > > pressure is the biggest offender for me, as far as > causing > > fatigue goes. When I am subject to high emf > > exposure, it causes my bp to quickly fall, which then > > causes great fatigue until the bp is adequately > > addressed. This is when the cal AEP and pantethine > are > > most quickly helpful. But I see help taking the cal > AEP > > and pantethine other times as well, for fatigue > > (because calAEP and pantethine also feed the > adrenals). > > > > I was very low energy all of my life till I started > taking > > this duo, Cheryl. I now can hike, bike, garden, > shop > > (without the drop lol)..... > > > > Diane > > > > --- On Sat, 4/10/10, Cheryl Griffing > <cheryl_griffing@ yahoo.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > From: Cheryl Griffing <cheryl_griffing@ > yahoo.com> > > Subject: Re: [eSens] EMS Genetic? > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > > Date: Saturday, April 10, 2010, 3:28 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's very interesting. For me, also, fatigue has > been the > > most difficult part of EMS. I believe that it has > resulted > > in adrenal fatigue as I was told by an expert that > EMF > > exposure causes that, and I have the exact symptoms of > it. > > > > Cheryl > > > > --- On Fri, 4/9/10, Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com> > > wrote: > > > > From: Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com> > > Subject: Re: [eSens] EMS Genetic? > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > > Date: Friday, April 9, 2010, 1:23 PM > > > > > > > > Loni, > > > > > > > > Have you ever checked to see if you have any > autonomic > > nervous system disorder signs? For instance, can > you > > notice a difference in your blood pressure (by taking > it > > with a meter) on days you feel well than on days you > feel > > poorly/fatigued? I could, and I finally found a way > to > > address it using supplements. > > > > > > > > Diane > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 4/8/10, Loni <loni326@yahoo. com> > wrote: > > > > From: Loni <loni326@yahoo. com> > > > > Subject: Re: [eSens] EMS Genetic? > > > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > > > > Date: Thursday, April 8, 2010, 5:35 PM > > > > > > > > The thing about symptoms of ES is that fatigue is a > huge > > issue for me. I didn't know that was from ES until 2 > years > > ago. Loni > > > > --- On Thu, 4/8/10, Jennie Wassenaar > <ad-in@ameritech. > > net> wrote: > > > > From: Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net> > > > > Subject: [eSens] EMS Genetic? > > > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > > > > Date: Thursday, April 8, 2010, 2:02 PM > > > > > > > > I think time will tell if genetics are a factor > unless > > science proves or disproves it first. While MCS and > EMS are > > different conditions there seems to be a high > correlation > > between people who have both. I started with > allergies, MCS > > and EMS in my early/mid 40s. My children have all > developed > > allergies in their late teens/early 20s and are > starting to > > show signs of MCS. My grandchildren have developed > allergies > > in their preschool years. My husband is the only > person in > > our family who does not have any trouble with > allergies. > > Maybe it's just the allergies that are genetic but as > I said > > my children (all in their 20s) are starting to show > signs of > > MCS. I have tried to educate them on keeping away > from > > chemicals as much as possible. I tell them their > bodies are > > like sponges soaking up the chemicals around them. > Once the > > "sponge" is full and can not tolerate any more > chemicals it > > will start to react. So the longer they can keep > chemicals > > out the > > > > their systems the longer they can stay healthy. So far > none > > of them have shown signs of EMS. :) > > > > Jennie > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > From: stephen_vandevijver e <stephen_vandevijve r > [hidden email]> > > > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > > > > Sent: Wed, April 7, 2010 9:22:13 PM > > > > Subject: [eSens] Re: Suing neighbor over wi-fi > > > > If ES is mainly genetic, many members of our families > would > > be ES as well? > > > > At my family (30 persons: parents, brother, sister, > uncles, > > cousins…) nobody is ES… > > > > Stephen. > > > > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Jennie Wassenaar > > <ad-in@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > My understanding is that it may be genetic in > that we > > are predisposed to EMS with exposure but with > avoidance and > > up keep of other health issues (immune system, etc.) > we can > > minimize the effects. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > From: Marc Martin <marc@...> > > > > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > > > > > Sent: Sun, April 4, 2010 10:35:53 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Suing neighbor over > wi-fi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Puk replies - What if the problem is genetic > ? > > > > > > > > > > I've heard from at least one doctor that genetics > can > > be overcome > > > > > to an extent via diet and supplements. .. and > > certainly with ES, > > > > > you can shielding, avoidance, EMF devices... > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > eSens-fullfeatured@ yahoogroups. com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > eSens-fullfeatured@ yahoogroups. com > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Re: supplements for ANS (formerly EMS Genetic?)
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> Do you think it works better as a powder? Loni
Yes, I think the hydrogen supplements are more noticeable when taken as a powder. When you dissolve it in water, I think it absorbs better through the mouth and throat compared to having the capsule dissolve and having it absorb in the stomach and intestines. Also, the powder doesn't have any fillers or binders (magnesium stearate, etc.), which sensitive people can have problems with. Plus, it dissolves completely in water (unlike opening a capsule and mixing it with water, which leaves a white powdery residue -- presumably the binders) Marc |
Re: Suing neighbor over wi-fi on ABC.com
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Hi Bill, how did you measure them? My friend wants to buy a good EMF detector. He's in the health field and I got him interested after noting that I was triggered into wifi sensitivity by being in a screwy EMF house with lotsof powerlines, near wimax, and with a strong wifi router near me.
He said a friend of his tested about fifty Hummers before he found one suitably low in EMF! Also, you don't literally mean a billion times...would you mind giving me some exact #'s that I can pass on to my friend? THANKS! --- In [hidden email], Bill Bruno <wbruno@...> wrote: > > People should know the fields are about a billion times stronger than the > natural background (depending on what bandwidth you use to measure). > > When I talk to other physicists, most are sure that Bob Park is right > and we are all nuts. BUT, the ones who have worked with microwaves are > quite surprised if I tell them my office read over 800mV/m before I shielded > the walls. > > There are physicists who (like many radiochemists who aren't afraid of > radioactivity) are "brave" and careless with microwaves. I don't know > but I suspect this could have been the case with Prof. Andrew Lange, who > was a top researcher in microwave astronomy but took his own life earlier > this year. > > Bill > > > > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 3:53 AM, <sarahdacre@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > When ABC came to my home to film the sequence they arrived sceptical > > about all elements of the story and left convinced that I had a real > > health problem and that EMR was the trigger. I had picked one of the > > biggest phone masts in London to demonstrate how bad the e-smog was at > > any time and how effective the shielding was against bombardment by EMR. > > > > The electrosmog detector provided the 'scientific proof'. > > > > We can all generate coverage via significant media networks. Once the > > ABC feature was transmitted in the USA several years ago I was > > approached by other TV producers and magazine editors. ABC have now > > used this footage again - this is important and indicates that they > > believe the story. We need to write to them and explain how EMR > > affects our own lives. > > > > EMR and health is a massive story and to generate coverage we need > > others prepared to invite journalists and producers into their lives. > > > > Contact your local newsdesk and invite them to your own location and > > show them how bad the readings are at your home or office and describe > > your health challenges. Most of them are aware of this rumbling time > > bomb and they need opportunities to film other worthy stories. > > > > I am prepared to guide and advise you if you wish to approach your > > local TV station. > > > > best wishes > > > > Sarah Dacre > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Robert Williams <robert_connolly@...<robert_connolly%40rogers.com> > > > > > To: [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 17:29 > > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Suing neighbor over wi-fi on ABC.com > > > > It was the video that accompanied the Arthurs story on ABC > > > > > > http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/allergic-electronics-man-sues-neighbor-gadget/story?id=10240343 > > > > Play the video that goes with the story. > > > > As you can see - ABC is not laughing at this story. They are informing > > the public - producing videos like this is expensive. > > Writing a story takes a few hours. Making a video takes about a weeks > > worth of work. > > > > NOW - EVERYONE ON THIS SITE SHOULD GO A POST A REPLY TO THAT STORY!!!!!! > > When the editors see that there is so much response to it they will run > > more stories about it. > > IT"S REALLY TIME TO TELL THE WORLD YOUR STORY.... > > > > The cell phone activists did it - they brought it to everyones > > attention. Now it's our turn. > > > > On 2010-04-06, at 11:41 AM, Loni wrote: > > > > > How can we see this ABC video? > > > > > > --- On Tue, 4/6/10, Robert Williams <robert_connolly@...<robert_connolly%40rogers.com>> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > From: Robert Williams <robert_connolly@...<robert_connolly%40rogers.com> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Suing neighbor over wi-fi on ABC.com > > > To: [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com> > > > Date: Tuesday, April 6, 2010, 7:44 AM > > > > > > WiMAX falls into a different category then cell towers - there are > > all sorts of cities and libraries and schools that have stopped city > > wide wimax and local wimax. > > > > > > Think of someone with a peanut allergy - if you get onto a plane and > > someone says they have a peanut allergy - they tell everyone on the > > plane to refrain from eating anything that has peanuts - Same with > > schools. > > > > > > Did everyone look at the ABC video of the woman that was EHS? The > > program went to great lengths to inform the audience that the WIFI was > > really bad. They stepped accross a big line. > > > > > > First it was cell phones - a senate hearing and then warnings - even > > the FCC changed their RF page about cell phones to warn people. Now > > they are moving onto WIFI - and cell towers. They are using people > > that are allergic to electricity as a means of showing the harm without > > scientific studies because no one will allow them to be funded. > > > > > > Unless we speak up and complain - the press will have no one to come > > to for a story. The autistic moms screamed about thimerisol in vaccines > > and that made a very big impact with the H1N1 flu shots. No one trust > > the WHO because of it. > > > > > > The doctor in the Video said that he is seeing 10 times the amount of > > patients that are like this than 10 years ago. It's only going to get > > more common and people will complain to the point that things will > > change. They took the lead out of gas. The are taking down the coal > > plants - they are replacing the lead pipes. Things do change but only > > if you request the change and only if the doctors and the press and the > > government is informed. > > > > > > Wifi is no different than mercury fillings or for vacinations. The > > FDA denies the harmful effects but how many dentists use it now? How > > many doctors said - Ah - I think we need vaccines without mercury. You > > can run to the country to get well but you need to also warn the > > country folks that it's comming to their town unless they stand up and > > fight it. > > > > > > On 2010-04-06, at 9:32 AM, cocopollyphenol wrote: > > > > > > > I think if I were him and I owned the house, I'd adapt the house to > > block wifi etc. As long as he was choosing to live in town, and not on > > acreage somewhere, he was going to be in trouble sooner or later. > > > > > > > > I spent a week out at a farmhouse out in the country, with a few > > low signals from neighbors who weren't all that close, and more > > importantly, not a blanket of wimax and only a few cellphone towers. I > > could sit in the parking lot across from a cellphone tower and feel > > okay, it was an older one, without a zillion dishes on it. > > > > > > > > I felt relaxed. However, the farmhouse had a mold problem that made > > me sick as a dog. > > > > > > > > We came back into the Atlanta area and I began to feel ems > > symptoms. I am sensitized more now since being in that house. I don't > > know what was wrong with that house but I wonder if that wifi router > > gave off extra strong signals, was somehow faulty. I also know it was a > > strong router. That whole neighborhood was blanketed with wifi in every > > single house, sometimes two to a house. In addition maybe that house > > had faulty wiring or extra EMF. The odd thing is once sensitized I > > haven't seemed to recover even tho it was only 3 weeks. > > > > > > > > Atlanta has been wimaxed and there are towers everywhere. As you > > drive toward the city you see so many. Symptoms of spine pressure, > > agitation (subtle), a weird alertness, and occasionally irregular > > heartbeats now when I'm around strong wifi in a store...etc. It's very > > unpleasant. I don't know what to do. > > > > > > > > I don't see any solution for anybody really, because wimax is going > > everywhere. Give it another five years. Everybody will have even > > stronger wifi routers. > > > > > > > > This just makes a good, "kooky" story but will not change policy. > > If in 1996 they passed a law that no local govt could question ie > > litigate placement of towers based on health, its a long upward battle. > > They put their protection into place quite a while ago. Tell me how > > we're going to change this. And most people are not sensitive or even > > if they had mild symptoms wouldn't care. In addition, good studies > > might require years--epidemiological studies that look at rates of > > illness/cancer around towers, and exactly how far. And it's complicated > > now by wifi routers. I can't even imagine how you could design a good > > human study. You'd just have to do animal studies. > > > > > > > > It took quite a long while for scientists to get bisphenol A on the > > "bad" list. They did study after study with alarming results but the > > industry just did their own sponsored studies. It was so profitable. It > > took so much effort to target just ONE chemical. > > > > > > > > This is a way of life. If I were to move to that farmhouse if it > > WASN'T moldy--who's to say in ten years it won't be wimaxed too? That > > at some point the farmer next door will sell his land and a developer > > will come in and a bunch of homes will go up with N-routers? > > > > > > > > I don't see a solution. In my case, I think I'm sensitized because > > I have lyme disease which broke down my system, leading to MCS and now > > ES. But I think the whole population is affected. For instance, they > > now are finding that phthalate exposure affects boys' intelligence > > (endocrine disrupter--estrogen mimic). There was also a great study a > > while back that found that the level of phthalates in baby boy's urine > > correlated with the distance from the anus to the scrotum--less > > distance ie more feminized with higher levels of the endocrine > > disrupters. No mother could notice that with her naked eye. But it was > > a clear indication that effects were occurring. The same is probably > > true of wimax, wifi (which I think are much worse than cellphones but > > that's my subjective sense). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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Hi, Steve,
I couldn't tolerate even a tenth of 1 pill when I first took them--it took me about 2 weeks to adjust to that and in the meantime, I was really foggy headed and felt very ill--same with the calAEP. It took me over a year to build up to just 6 pills/day, if I remember correctly. But I did tolerate them, ultimately, just fine when I followed the nutritionists directions to repack the pill and build up slowly. Diane --- On Sun, 4/11/10, Steve G <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Steve G <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Dosage for calAEP and pantethine To: [hidden email] Date: Sunday, April 11, 2010, 5:21 PM Wow, thats a lot of pantethine. I get a stomach ache with one pill so i don't think I'd be able to take that much. Maybe I'll try a lower dose and seeif it helps. Thanks for the info --- On Sun, 4/11/10, Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com> wrote: > From: Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Dosage for calAEP and pantethine > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > Date: Sunday, April 11, 2010, 12:23 PM > Hi Loni (and Steve--I was going to > post this for you before Loni asked), > > If you should try cal AEP (and this is necessary for > pantethine also), you need to remember to start very small > and work up slowly--you will need to repack the pills into > empty capsules to start--start with just a 5th to a tenth of > the regular contents in an empty capsule. If this sounds > hard, it isn't. You don't need to measure--you can > guestimate. I did this totally manually (no repacking > machine or whatever) on a day my hand tremor was > steadiest. I just pulled the cap apart and dumped some > into empty caps (it helps if the empty caps are a little > larger in size), which you can buy from a pharmacy or > vitamin house by the bottle. Take this dose until you > notice no adverse symptoms, and then add a little more > powder to your empty capsules and wait till no adverse > symptoms, and on and on..... (You must, however, pack it > in an empty capsule--you cannot take the powder itself.) > You will need, over time, to build up to 6 to 9 full-dose > capsules/each cal AEP and pantethine. I took the 6 to > 9/each dose for about a year; and took 9 each for at > least a couple months of that. Then, (after you have taken > these within this dosage for some time) you can go to just > taking it when you need it (2 caps each with a large glass > of water every 20 minutes until you feel better--up to 6 > caps each (over on hour or more); I rarely need more than 4 > caps each, personally). > > I now take this only for actual emf exposures which cause > bp plummeting or just a particularly bad emf exposure. One > thing I like about this is it is easy to carry with me > always. If I find myself reacting too often to emfs, tho, > I go back to 6 to 9each/day (2 or 3 each/meal with water) > for a month or so. And I don't recommend taking this > without building up to the 6 to 9each/day with meals--if > you can take these with meals you should see a noticeable > difference. If you don't, then it is not likely something > which is going to work for you in high emfs. > > As to the exact formulations I take: > > Wellness Resources brand Calcium AEP (there is only 1 > formulation there for Cal AEP--but I did mention the exact > formula today in a post to Ian, earlier) > > http://www.wellness resources. com/products/ calcium_aep. php > > and Wellness Resources brand Pantethine (300mg/cap): > > http://www.wellness resources. com/products/ pantethine. php > > At this site, he mentions non-ES research which was done at > 900 mg doses but *he* is my nutritionist that I mentioned in > a post to Kooky earlier today and *he* is who told me to > take up to 2700 mg (9 pills)--which I did. Does new > research mean I could have taken only 900mg? I don't > know--but it worked/s the way he originally told me to take > it. My sense is that some people would probably respond to > less. I doubt I would have because I usually need 4 > pantethine caps (1200mg) to raise my bp. Just remember > that you take it in equal amounts cal to pantethine, > according to his original directions, once you have gotten > to the point you notice a difference. > > Hope this helps you, if you try it, > Diane > > > --- On Sun, 4/11/10, Loni <loni326@yahoo. com> > wrote: > > > From: Loni <loni326@yahoo. com> > Subject: Re: [eSens] EMS Genetic? > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > Date: Sunday, April 11, 2010, 1:11 PM > > > > > > > Hi Diane, > > You probably gave your protocol before but could you tell > us the brand of Cal AEP & Pantethine you use & the > amount. Also, how long did it take you to overcome the > fatigue while taking these suppliments! > > Thanks a bunch! Loni > > --- On Sun, 4/11/10, Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com> > wrote: > > From: Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com> > Subject: Re: [eSens] EMS Genetic? > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > Date: Sunday, April 11, 2010, 9:38 AM > > > > Hi Cheryl, > > Yes, fatigue--exhaustion , really--has been a life-long > problem for me, also. It wasn't till my nutritionist > suggested CalAEP and pantethine 5 years ago that I was able > to overcome it (mostly overcome it--I still have short > periods of great fatigue). I was home/bed-bound for 13 > years straight due to exhaustion, and for many years before > that off and on. I had signs of a type of ES from early > childhood (among other serious medical problems)--I shocked > and fried things, couldn't wear watches, felt like I was a > "capacitor". .... It wasn't till a toxic pesticide event 4 > years ago that I came down with all of the symptoms most > people have here. Before that, tho, I also had autonomic > nervous system symptoms that I now know were caused by emf > exposure (esp to magnetic frequencies) for many, many > years. The ANS disorder symptom of plummeting blood > pressure is the biggest offender for me, as far as causing > fatigue goes. When I am subject to high > emf > exposure, it causes my bp to quickly fall, which then > causes great fatigue until the bp is adequately > addressed. This is when the cal AEP and pantethine are > most quickly helpful. But I see help taking the cal AEP > and pantethine other times as well, for fatigue > (because calAEP and pantethine also feed the adrenals). > > I was very low energy all of my life till I started taking > this duo, Cheryl. I now can hike, bike, garden, shop > (without the drop lol)..... > > Diane > > --- On Sat, 4/10/10, Cheryl Griffing <cheryl_griffing@ > yahoo.com> wrote: > > From: Cheryl Griffing <cheryl_griffing@ yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [eSens] EMS Genetic? > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > Date: Saturday, April 10, 2010, 3:28 AM > > > > That's very interesting. For me, also, fatigue has been the > most difficult part of EMS. I believe that it has resulted > in adrenal fatigue as I was told by an expert that EMF > exposure causes that, and I have the exact symptoms of it. > > Cheryl > > --- On Fri, 4/9/10, Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com> > wrote: > > From: Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com> > Subject: Re: [eSens] EMS Genetic? > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > Date: Friday, April 9, 2010, 1:23 PM > > > > Loni, > > > > Have you ever checked to see if you have any autonomic > nervous system disorder signs? For instance, can you > notice a difference in your blood pressure (by taking it > with a meter) on days you feel well than on days you feel > poorly/fatigued? I could, and I finally found a way to > address it using supplements. > > > > Diane > > > > --- On Thu, 4/8/10, Loni <loni326@yahoo. com> wrote: > > From: Loni <loni326@yahoo. com> > > Subject: Re: [eSens] EMS Genetic? > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > > Date: Thursday, April 8, 2010, 5:35 PM > > > > The thing about symptoms of ES is that fatigue is a huge > issue for me. I didn't know that was from ES until 2 years > ago. Loni > > --- On Thu, 4/8/10, Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. > net> wrote: > > From: Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net> > > Subject: [eSens] EMS Genetic? > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > > Date: Thursday, April 8, 2010, 2:02 PM > > > > I think time will tell if genetics are a factor unless > science proves or disproves it first. While MCS and EMS are > different conditions there seems to be a high correlation > between people who have both. I started with allergies, MCS > and EMS in my early/mid 40s. My children have all developed > allergies in their late teens/early 20s and are starting to > show signs of MCS. My grandchildren have developed allergies > in their preschool years. My husband is the only person in > our family who does not have any trouble with allergies. > Maybe it's just the allergies that are genetic but as I said > my children (all in their 20s) are starting to show signs of > MCS. I have tried to educate them on keeping away from > chemicals as much as possible. I tell them their bodies are > like sponges soaking up the chemicals around them. Once the > "sponge" is full and can not tolerate any more chemicals it > will start to react. So the longer they can keep chemicals > out the > > their systems the longer they can stay healthy. So far none > of them have shown signs of EMS. :) > > Jennie > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > From: stephen_vandevijver e <stephen_vandevijve r [hidden email]> > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > > Sent: Wed, April 7, 2010 9:22:13 PM > > Subject: [eSens] Re: Suing neighbor over wi-fi > > If ES is mainly genetic, many members of our families would > be ES as well? > > At my family (30 persons: parents, brother, sister, uncles, > cousins…) nobody is ES… > > Stephen. > > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Jennie Wassenaar > <ad-in@...> wrote: > > > > > > My understanding is that it may be genetic in that we > are predisposed to EMS with exposure but with avoidance and > up keep of other health issues (immune system, etc.) we can > minimize the effects. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > From: Marc Martin <marc@...> > > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > > > Sent: Sun, April 4, 2010 10:35:53 PM > > > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Suing neighbor over wi-fi > > > > > > > > > > Puk replies - What if the problem is genetic ? > > > > > > I've heard from at least one doctor that genetics can > be overcome > > > to an extent via diet and supplements. .. and > certainly with ES, > > > you can shielding, avoidance, EMF devices... > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > Yahoo! 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I juse ordered the pantethine and calcium, will try it out. Also looking to get the last mercury filling out of my mouth and replacing my metal crowns with Lava Crowns. Oh joy. I just read that root canals are also dangerous. I have one of those. --- On Mon, 4/12/10, Evie <[hidden email]> wrote: > From: Evie <[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Dosage for calAEP and pantethine > To: [hidden email] > Date: Monday, April 12, 2010, 9:36 AM > Hi, Steve, > > I couldn't tolerate even a tenth of 1 pill when I first > took them--it took me about 2 weeks to adjust to that and > in the meantime, I was really foggy headed and felt very > ill--same with the calAEP. It took me over a year to build > up to just 6 pills/day, if I remember correctly. But I > did tolerate them, ultimately, just fine when I followed the > nutritionists directions to repack the pill and build up > slowly. > > Diane > > --- On Sun, 4/11/10, Steve G <[hidden email]> > wrote: > > > From: Steve G <[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Dosage for calAEP and pantethine > To: [hidden email] > Date: Sunday, April 11, 2010, 5:21 PM > > > > > > > Wow, thats a lot of pantethine. I get a stomach ache with > one pill so i don't think I'd be able to take that much. > Maybe I'll try a lower dose and see if it helps. > Thanks for the info > > --- On Sun, 4/11/10, Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com> > wrote: > > > From: Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com> > > Subject: Re: [eSens] Dosage for calAEP and pantethine > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > > Date: Sunday, April 11, 2010, 12:23 PM > > Hi Loni (and Steve--I was going to > > post this for you before Loni asked), > > > > If you should try cal AEP (and this is necessary for > > pantethine also), you need to remember to start very > small > > and work up slowly--you will need to repack the pills > into > > empty capsules to start--start with just a 5th to a > tenth of > > the regular contents in an empty capsule. If this > sounds > > hard, it isn't. You don't need to measure--you can > > guestimate. I did this totally manually (no > repacking > > machine or whatever) on a day my hand tremor was > > steadiest. I just pulled the cap apart and dumped > some > > into empty caps (it helps if the empty caps are a > little > > larger in size), which you can buy from a pharmacy or > > vitamin house by the bottle. Take this dose until > you > > notice no adverse symptoms, and then add a little > more > > powder to your empty capsules and wait till no > adverse > > symptoms, and on and on..... (You must, however, > pack it > > in an empty capsule--you cannot take the powder > itself.) > > You will need, over time, to build up to 6 to 9 > full-dose > > capsules/each cal AEP and pantethine. I took the > 6 to > > 9/each dose for about a year; and took 9 each for > at > > least a couple months of that. Then, (after you have > taken > > these within this dosage for some time) you can go to > just > > taking it when you need it (2 caps each with a large > glass > > of water every 20 minutes until you feel better--up > to 6 > > caps each (over on hour or more); I rarely need more > than 4 > > caps each, personally). > > > > I now take this only for actual emf exposures which > cause > > bp plummeting or just a particularly bad emf > exposure. One > > thing I like about this is it is easy to carry with > me > > always. If I find myself reacting too often to emfs, > tho, > > I go back to 6 to 9each/day (2 or 3 each/meal with > water) > > for a month or so. And I don't recommend taking > this > > without building up to the 6 to 9each/day with > meals--if > > you can take these with meals you should see a > noticeable > > difference. If you don't, then it is not likely > something > > which is going to work for you in high emfs. > > > > As to the exact formulations I take: > > > > Wellness Resources brand Calcium AEP (there is only 1 > > formulation there for Cal AEP--but I did mention the > exact > > formula today in a post to Ian, earlier) > > > > http://www.wellness resources. com/products/ > calcium_aep. php > > > > and Wellness Resources brand Pantethine (300mg/cap): > > > > http://www.wellness resources. com/products/ > pantethine. php > > > > At this site, he mentions non-ES research which was > done at > > 900 mg doses but *he* is my nutritionist that I > mentioned in > > a post to Kooky earlier today and *he* is who told me > to > > take up to 2700 mg (9 pills)--which I did. Does new > > research mean I could have taken only 900mg? I > don't > > know--but it worked/s the way he originally told me to > take > > it. My sense is that some people would probably > respond to > > less. I doubt I would have because I usually need 4 > > pantethine caps (1200mg) to raise my bp. Just > remember > > that you take it in equal amounts cal to pantethine, > > according to his original directions, once you have > gotten > > to the point you notice a difference. > > > > Hope this helps you, if you try it, > > Diane > > > > > > --- On Sun, 4/11/10, Loni <loni326@yahoo. com> > > wrote: > > > > > > From: Loni <loni326@yahoo. com> > > Subject: Re: [eSens] EMS Genetic? > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > > Date: Sunday, April 11, 2010, 1:11 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Diane, > > > > You probably gave your protocol before but could you > tell > > us the brand of Cal AEP & Pantethine you use & > the > > amount. Also, how long did it take you to overcome > the > > fatigue while taking these suppliments! > > > > Thanks a bunch! Loni > > > > --- On Sun, 4/11/10, Evie <evie15422@yahoo. > com> > > wrote: > > > > From: Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com> > > Subject: Re: [eSens] EMS Genetic? > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > > Date: Sunday, April 11, 2010, 9:38 AM > > > > > > > > Hi Cheryl, > > > > Yes, fatigue--exhaustion , really--has been a > life-long > > problem for me, also. It wasn't till my > nutritionist > > suggested CalAEP and pantethine 5 years ago that I was > able > > to overcome it (mostly overcome it--I still have > short > > periods of great fatigue). I was home/bed-bound for > 13 > > years straight due to exhaustion, and for many years > before > > that off and on. I had signs of a type of ES from > early > > childhood (among other serious medical problems)--I > shocked > > and fried things, couldn't wear watches, felt like I > was a > > "capacitor". .... It wasn't till a toxic pesticide > event 4 > > years ago that I came down with all of the symptoms > most > > people have here. Before that, tho, I also had > autonomic > > nervous system symptoms that I now know were caused by > emf > > exposure (esp to magnetic frequencies) for many, many > > years. The ANS disorder symptom of plummeting blood > > pressure is the biggest offender for me, as far as > causing > > fatigue goes. When I am subject to high > > emf > > exposure, it causes my bp to quickly fall, which then > > causes great fatigue until the bp is adequately > > addressed. This is when the cal AEP and pantethine > are > > most quickly helpful. But I see help taking the cal > AEP > > and pantethine other times as well, for fatigue > > (because calAEP and pantethine also feed the > adrenals). > > > > I was very low energy all of my life till I started > taking > > this duo, Cheryl. I now can hike, bike, garden, > shop > > (without the drop lol)..... > > > > Diane > > > > --- On Sat, 4/10/10, Cheryl Griffing > <cheryl_griffing@ > > yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > From: Cheryl Griffing <cheryl_griffing@ > yahoo.com> > > Subject: Re: [eSens] EMS Genetic? > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > > Date: Saturday, April 10, 2010, 3:28 AM > > > > > > > > That's very interesting. For me, also, fatigue has > been the > > most difficult part of EMS. I believe that it has > resulted > > in adrenal fatigue as I was told by an expert that > EMF > > exposure causes that, and I have the exact symptoms of > it. > > > > Cheryl > > > > --- On Fri, 4/9/10, Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com> > > wrote: > > > > From: Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com> > > Subject: Re: [eSens] EMS Genetic? > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > > Date: Friday, April 9, 2010, 1:23 PM > > > > > > > > Loni, > > > > > > > > Have you ever checked to see if you have any > autonomic > > nervous system disorder signs? For instance, can > you > > notice a difference in your blood pressure (by taking > it > > with a meter) on days you feel well than on days you > feel > > poorly/fatigued? I could, and I finally found a way > to > > address it using supplements. > > > > > > > > Diane > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 4/8/10, Loni <loni326@yahoo. com> > wrote: > > > > From: Loni <loni326@yahoo. com> > > > > Subject: Re: [eSens] EMS Genetic? > > > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > > > > Date: Thursday, April 8, 2010, 5:35 PM > > > > > > > > The thing about symptoms of ES is that fatigue is a > huge > > issue for me. I didn't know that was from ES until 2 > years > > ago. Loni > > > > --- On Thu, 4/8/10, Jennie Wassenaar > <ad-in@ameritech. > > net> wrote: > > > > From: Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net> > > > > Subject: [eSens] EMS Genetic? > > > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > > > > Date: Thursday, April 8, 2010, 2:02 PM > > > > > > > > I think time will tell if genetics are a factor > unless > > science proves or disproves it first. While MCS and > EMS are > > different conditions there seems to be a high > correlation > > between people who have both. I started with > allergies, MCS > > and EMS in my early/mid 40s. My children have all > developed > > allergies in their late teens/early 20s and are > starting to > > show signs of MCS. My grandchildren have developed > allergies > > in their preschool years. My husband is the only > person in > > our family who does not have any trouble with > allergies. > > Maybe it's just the allergies that are genetic but as > I said > > my children (all in their 20s) are starting to show > signs of > > MCS. I have tried to educate them on keeping away > from > > chemicals as much as possible. I tell them their > bodies are > > like sponges soaking up the chemicals around them. > Once the > > "sponge" is full and can not tolerate any more > chemicals it > > will start to react. So the longer they can keep > chemicals > > out the > > > > their systems the longer they can stay healthy. So far > none > > of them have shown signs of EMS. :) > > > > Jennie > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > From: stephen_vandevijver e <stephen_vandevijve r > [hidden email]> > > > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > > > > Sent: Wed, April 7, 2010 9:22:13 PM > > > > Subject: [eSens] Re: Suing neighbor over wi-fi > > > > If ES is mainly genetic, many members of our families > would > > be ES as well? > > > > At my family (30 persons: parents, brother, sister, > uncles, > > cousins…) nobody is ES… > > > > Stephen. > > > > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Jennie Wassenaar > > <ad-in@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > My understanding is that it may be genetic in > that we > > are predisposed to EMS with exposure but with > avoidance and > > up keep of other health issues (immune system, etc.) > we can > > minimize the effects. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > From: Marc Martin <marc@...> > > > > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > > > > > Sent: Sun, April 4, 2010 10:35:53 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Suing neighbor over > wi-fi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Puk replies - What if the problem is genetic > ? > > > > > > > > > > I've heard from at least one doctor that genetics > can > > be overcome > > > > > to an extent via diet and supplements. .. and > > certainly with ES, > > > > > you can shielding, avoidance, EMF devices... > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > Yahoo! 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> I couldn't tolerate even a tenth of 1 pill when I first took them--it
> took me about 2 weeks to adjust to that That's been my problem with Alpha Lipoic Acid -- virtually zero tolerance. Although this past weekend I tried what may be a good solution to that -- Geronova makes a liquid R-Lipoic acid that contains 5mg of R-ALA per drop. That's pretty low, and I can dilute that with water to make the dose even smaller (as even one drops seems a bit much when taken 7 times per day) Marc |
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The "Freakish Component" isn't found so much in the genes (which everyone just assumes is the Nuclear, versus the Mitochondrial, type that's being discussed) but in the "in sync Circadian Rhythms" that some people still possess.
To make a very long explanation short, when our Circadian Rhythms are in sync with the LIFE CYCLES of the Planet, called The Schumann Resonances, thennot only is there: 1) a lot less Electromagnetic sensitivity experienced, but also 2) a lot less toxic build up of anything in the brain/body and 3) no Mitochondrial Energy deficiency. In short, our "Circadian Bone's" connected to our "Mitochondrial Design/Energy Bone". Throw the first off sync with the planet's Life/Light Cycles (through ANY form of electrosmog - even that coming from other people as well as technology) and you inhibit the ability to Metabolize toxins as well as inhibiting the ability of the Mitochondria to form us correctly and fuel us fully. The Mitochondria themselves are affected as well since their loss of energyalso affects their ability to replicate themselves correctly. Therefore, they can't form or fuel anything else fully or correctly. Yes, throw off our Circadian Rhythms and you get the MITOCHONDRIAL GENETIC DAMAGE/DYSFUNCTION ( as well as the Nuclear damage/dysfunction) everyone istelling us causes all of the diseases, disorders, etc.. But, look again. What was it that caused that Damage/Dysfunction to begin with? It was the out of sync CIRCADIAN RHYTHMS that CAUSED the Mitochondrialdysfunction to BEGIN. Fix the Circadian Rhythms and Voila! The Mitochondria start working right, cells start working right, Metabolism starts working right - we detox ourselves of ALL OF THE POLLUTANTS and everything begins to form and function right - once again. What's throwing off the Circadian Rhythms to begin with? Our schedules/lifestyles and developmental/job programs. Electrosmog is just the icing on the cake. For more info re: the way in which electrosmog affects our LIFE CYCLES, see: http://www.hese-project.org/hese-uk/en/papers/salford_mammalian_brain_2008.pdf The Schumann Resonances = electromagnetic frequencies that come from the Earth's core and exist between the Earth's crust and the Ionosphere. These resonances perfectly correlate with the ELECTROMAGNETIC STATES in which OURMITOCHONDRIA/BRAINS/BODIES are DESIGNED to be in day and night FOR MAXIMUMGROWTH AND FUNCTION. Those states look like this: 1) Delta State (1-4 hertz) for powering all the way down to sleep during DARKNESS 2) Theta State (4-7 hz) during DAWN and DUSK for smoothly transitioning between Delta state and 3) Alpha State (7-12 hz) during the DAY. Note how the states correlate also with the AMOUNT OF LIGHT one receives asthe planet turns. This amount of light is also the TRIGGER for placing us into these states. This is how we know which state we're designed to be in.Example: it is the amount of dark we receive that actually triggers the production of Melitonin within us to put us to sleep, firstly down into ThetaState (4-7 hz.) then all the way down in Delta (1-4hz). Just as a sidenote, there are 2 other states, Beta (13-30 hz) and Gamma (30-69 hz) and both are for varying degrees of emergency, one lesser, one greater - depending on the amount of energy needed for either/or. These are no where near necessary for day-to-day living experiences. Make NO MISTAKE. These states are Electromagnetic in both nature and frequency. Therefore, when we think/do (ROTE, REDUCTIONARY/REPETITIVE) things that keep us in Theta State all day, this depletes the necessary amounts of energy/electricity/frequencies to not only the brain/body, but to the Mitochondriathemselves. This is not enough energy for them to replicate themselves properly much more anything else in the entire brain/body! This can be called "The Brown Out State". When we think/do (STRESSFUL) things all day that keep us in Beta State, this overdoses the Mitochondria - as well as the rest of the brain/body with TOO MUCH ELECTRICTY!!!! When we alternate between tasks that place us in either Theta or Beta States all day, we get the exact same affect as if we are sitting next to a cellphone tower or near "dirty electricity"! We are OSCILLATING AT WRONG FREQUENCIES FOR LIFE ON EARTH!!!! Theta State and Beta State in the daytime = a frequency that is actually ALIEN to Life on Earth - just as is every other manmade frequency!!! We are DESIGNED to be in Theta State during the dawn and dusk hours ALONE as this is the REM State of sleep. (It's also the state in which hypnotists place their subjects for auto-suggestion.) We are DESIGNED to be in a calm,ALPHA State all day as this is the state of creativity necessary to SURVIVAL!!! The fact that we are living in the Alternating Currents of "Brown Out and Burn Out" Almost ALL the time, is what is causing the damages to the Mitochondrial Genome. Medicine then looks at that gene damage, tell us IT is the cause of ALL of our problems, (However, they ERRONEOUSLY tell us that the Nuclear Genome isthe one that needs to be fixed, not the Mitochondrial!!!) when it is not the cause, it is the RESULT of CIRCADIAN "ARRHYTHMIA"!!!!! Fix the Circadian Rhythms/put them back in sync with the Schumann Resonances/Natural schedule of hertz (which exactly correlate with the Delta/Theta/Alpha Schedule above) - and the Mitochondrial Genome(s)/Generator(s) start working correctly again!!! Everything grows back and begins functioning as before... that is unless mankind has interfered in "the mean time" - and removed brain/body parts. In theory - and in practice, even they should grow back. To understand why I say that, everyone should read "The Body Electric" by Dr. Robert O. Becker. All I know is that when I fixed my own and my children's Circadian Rhythms,(we went back to a schedule in sync with the Life/Light Cycles of the planet and began using developmental methods that did NOT keep us in a ROTE Theta State all day!) our Mitochondrial Genome(s)/Generator(s) began working correctly. My sons were cured of Autism, my daughter of Learning Disability and I was cured of a severe auto-immune system failure. Does this mean I can better handle Elecrosmog? Yes. BUT, WHY WOULD I WANT TO EVEN BE NEAR IT WHEN IT'S DESIGNED TO THROW OFF OUR RHYTHMS AND DEFORM OUR DNA?!?!??!? The interesting thing about all of this is that The Amish have none of these problems. They refuse to partake of any of this Electromagnetic/CircadianARRYTHMIA!!!! Another interesting thing is that Nikola Tesla warned the Electrical/Electronic companies that all of this would happen if they continued on their path to electrify the United States. Electricity that is not oscillating in the NATURAL HERTZ FOR PLANET EARTH DESTROYS THE STRUCTURE OF ITS MATTER AS WELL AS THE STRUCTURE OF ALL OF THE MATTER IN AND ON IT!!!!!!!!! He should have known. Tesla was the first man to actually record the Schumann Resonances. Pythagoras got to be the man credited for having first deduced their presence - through maths - and MUSICAL FREQUENCIES. (Those too aremeasured in HERTZ.) In short, this information re: Rhythmic Cycles of Life/Light, their correlation with the energy in our brains/bodies and the effect they have on the STRUCTURE of their MATTER has been around for a long, long, long, long, longtime. The knowledge of all of this was just hidden from us. NOW it's coming out and why? Because the structure of our MATTER is under ATTACK and people are finally beginning to put this information back together again - with the Life/Light Cycles of us AND the planet!!! Since this attack has been going on far longer than the 20th century, (as per programs that induce inteernal electrosmog by ROTE tasks) there are so many things designed by mankind to throw off our Circadian Rhythms and destroy the structure of OUR matter that they aren't even believable by most folks. One of them is simply sitting us in chairs all day. It throws off our Circadian Rhythms. No one is designed to sit in a chair all day... No one... The Arrhythmia caused by such an act = the inhibition of the energy wavesnecessary to form MATTER... Electrosmog = the same thing... Faith --- In [hidden email], Loni <loni326@...> wrote: > > But I see most people taking a whole lot bigger punch before they are knocked out than some of us. >  > Exactly my point; GENETICS >  > Loni > > --- On Sun, 4/11/10, Evie <evie15422@...> wrote: > > > From: Evie <evie15422@...> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: EMS Genetic? > To: [hidden email] > Date: Sunday, April 11, 2010, 11:07 AM > > >  > > > > Hi, Snoshoe, >  > I basically agree with you, but, imo, some of us show a freakishly better ability to react to toxins of all kinds. That "freakish" component is what I think may be genetically related. I think you are right, tho--you can only trash the earth with so much for so long before 100% of living beings here will begin to feel it and react.  [On a totally different note, cancer gene? Give me a break. Like anybody cannot come down with cancer given the right amount of toxic crap?] >  > just my 2 cents, > Diane > > --- On Sun, 4/11/10, snoshoe_2 <snoshoe_2@yahoo. com> wrote: > > From: snoshoe_2 <snoshoe_2@yahoo. com> > Subject: [eSens] Re: EMS Genetic? > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > Date: Sunday, April 11, 2010, 1:54 AM > >  > > I have a very different take on this genetic (eugenic) stuff. - > > Everyone will get cancer if given enough exposure to a toxin that causes it. > Everyone, will get esens, if given enough exposure, everyone will catch avirus if given enough exposure, etc. > > Do you all really think we just suddenly have gotten a cancer or other gene in just the last 30-40 years? Just out of the blue, because our grandparents didn't have it, our parents didn't have it, they didn't have diabetes,they didn't have low thyroid, etc., etc. - for the most part. -UNLESS - they'd been exposed to something that caused that deterioration. > > We've gone from almost zero cancer to 50%, yes, minimum 50% of the North American and UK population. That is the statistics. > 100% of us are projected to get it by the year 2020. That is the CDC's last projection I saw. It may have moved forward (closer) however, since we were already ahead of their projection layout by about 10% several years ago. > > So 100% of us have cancer genes? I don't think so. It is just another wayto make money for the petroleum> which owns the chemical> which owns the pharmeceutical companies, while treating what you are told are differing symptoms, requiring different medications, because only they have the answers,and in the process will keep you sick, keep you giving them your money, and kill you in the end, because it never cures anything. > > Only nature can cure nature. > > Yes, some people will show symptoms sooner in any condition, we're all built differently, but if we have a genetic weakness where did that come from? It came from exposure - exposure to the same things in our environment that have made us sick now; > > 1. Radiation > 2. Chemicals (including inbreeding) > 3. Heavy metals/elements in toxic doses > 4. Injury > 5. Nutritional Deficiency > 6. Mass microbial infection (equalling chemical exposure) -via a sick person, direct injection by vaccine, aerosols, water, etc. > > All these are reversible if given enough time and resources. > > "Nothing happens unexpectedly, everything has an indication, we only haveto observe the connections. " > > That's my 2 cents. I just think you're barking up the wrong tree. > > ~ Snoshoe > > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, paulpjc@ wrote: > > > > Puk replies - lets call it the vanguard gene ! > > > > > > In a message dated 09/04/2010 15:02:23 GMT Daylight Time, > > robert_connolly@ ... writes: > > > > I had my genetic testing done and just got my results back and it seems > > that I have the genes that are related to susceptibility of getting chronic > > lukemia. It costs $1,000 and there are testing centers that are poppingup > > everywhere. > > > > My father was a telephone switchboard operator then radar policeman that > > died of brain cancer. > > > > Perhaps this is a marker for EHS? Your body, mind soul saying "Stay away > > from EM fields" ? > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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Hi Faith,
Welcome, btw! Thanks for sharing your thoughts and considerable knowledge with us on this subject. It is obvious you have done alot of reading on this. I am mulling over what you are saying and trying to digest it--it is actually a totally foreign concept for me. Perhapsothers here have heard of ES being connected to circadian rhythms, but I haven't (other than the rather obvious inability to sleep we so often encounter). My nutritionist wrote a book (called "Mastering Leptin", by Byron Richards)in which half of the book explained how hormones work together as a symphony (with leptin being the orchestra conductor) to help keep your circadian rhythms in sync. (A good bit of the book dealt with how eating habits play into this and half of the book dealt with "diet helps".) I have followed what I learned in that book and my health has gotten remarkably better since doing so. However, enter a mold and pesticide incident, and I got much worse ES-wise (tho my health over-all has continued to improved) and over the last year my ES is also much better after homeopathy to detox my bone marrow. Thanks again for sharing, Diane aka Evie --- On Thu, 4/15/10, faith_creates <[hidden email]> wrote: From: faith_creates <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] Re: EMS Genetic? To: [hidden email] Date: Thursday, April 15, 2010, 2:38 PM The "Freakish Component" isn't found so much in the genes (which everyone just assumes is the Nuclear, versus the Mitochondrial, type that's being discussed) but in the "in sync Circadian Rhythms" that some people still possess. To make a very long explanation short, when our Circadian Rhythms are in sync with the LIFE CYCLES of the Planet, called The Schumann Resonances, thennot only is there: 1) a lot less Electromagnetic sensitivity experienced, but also 2) a lot less toxic build up of anything in the brain/body and 3) no Mitochondrial Energy deficiency. In short, our "Circadian Bone's" connected to our "Mitochondrial Design/Energy Bone". Throw the first off sync with the planet's Life/Light Cycles (through ANY form of electrosmog - even that coming from other people as well as technology) and you inhibit the ability to Metabolize toxins as well as inhibiting the ability of the Mitochondria to form us correctly and fuel us fully. The Mitochondria themselves are affected as well since their loss of energyalso affects their ability to replicate themselves correctly. Therefore, they can't form or fuel anything else fully or correctly. Yes, throw off our Circadian Rhythms and you get the MITOCHONDRIAL GENETIC DAMAGE/DYSFUNCTION ( as well as the Nuclear damage/dysfunction) everyone istelling us causes all of the diseases, disorders, etc.. But, look again. What was it that caused that Damage/Dysfunction to begin with? It was the out of sync CIRCADIAN RHYTHMS that CAUSED the Mitochondrialdysfunction to BEGIN. Fix the Circadian Rhythms and Voila! The Mitochondria start working right, cells start working right, Metabolism starts working right - we detox ourselves of ALL OF THE POLLUTANTS and everything begins to form and function right - once again. What's throwing off the Circadian Rhythms to begin with? Our schedules/lifestyle s and developmental/ job programs. Electrosmog is just the icing on the cake. For more info re: the way in which electrosmog affects our LIFE CYCLES, see: http://www.hese- project.org/ hese-uk/en/ papers/salford_ mammalian_ brain_2008. pdf The Schumann Resonances = electromagnetic frequencies that come from the Earth's core and exist between the Earth's crust and the Ionosphere. These resonances perfectly correlate with the ELECTROMAGNETIC STATES in which OURMITOCHONDRIA/ BRAINS/BODIES are DESIGNED to be in day and night FOR MAXIMUM GROWTH AND FUNCTION. Those states look like this: 1) Delta State (1-4 hertz) for powering all the way down to sleep during DARKNESS 2) Theta State (4-7 hz) during DAWN and DUSK for smoothly transitioning between Delta state and 3) Alpha State (7-12 hz) during the DAY. Note how the states correlate also with the AMOUNT OF LIGHT one receives asthe planet turns. This amount of light is also the TRIGGER for placing us into these states. This is how we know which state we're designed to be in.Example: it is the amount of dark we receive that actually triggers the production of Melitonin within us to put us to sleep, firstly down into ThetaState (4-7 hz.) then all the way down in Delta (1-4hz). Just as a sidenote, there are 2 other states, Beta (13-30 hz) and Gamma (30-69 hz) and both are for varying degrees of emergency, one lesser, one greater - depending on the amount of energy needed for either/or. These are no where near necessary for day-to-day living experiences. Make NO MISTAKE. These states are Electromagnetic in both nature and frequency. Therefore, when we think/do (ROTE, REDUCTIONARY/ REPETITIVE) things that keep us in Theta State all day, this depletes the necessary amounts of energy/electricity/ frequencies to not only the brain/body, but to the Mitochondria themselves. This is not enough energy for them to replicate themselves properly much more anything else in the entire brain/body! This can be called "The Brown Out State". When we think/do (STRESSFUL) things all day that keep us in Beta State, this overdoses the Mitochondria - as well as the rest of the brain/body with TOO MUCH ELECTRICTY!! !! When we alternate between tasks that place us in either Theta or Beta States all day, we get the exact same affect as if we are sitting next to a cellphone tower or near "dirty electricity" ! We are OSCILLATING AT WRONG FREQUENCIES FOR LIFE ON EARTH!!!! Theta State and Beta State in the daytime =a frequency that is actually ALIEN to Life on Earth - just as is every other manmade frequency!!! We are DESIGNED to be in Theta State during the dawn and dusk hours ALONE as this is the REM State of sleep. (It's also the state in which hypnotists place their subjects for auto-suggestion. ) We are DESIGNED to be in a calm, ALPHA State all day as this is the state of creativity necessary to SURVIVAL!!! The fact that we are living in the Alternating Currents of "Brown Out and Burn Out" Almost ALL the time, is what is causing the damages to the Mitochondrial Genome. Medicine then looks at that gene damage, tell us IT is the cause of ALL of our problems, (However, they ERRONEOUSLY tell us that the Nuclear Genome isthe one that needs to be fixed, not the Mitochondrial! !!) when it is not the cause, it is the RESULT of CIRCADIAN "ARRHYTHMIA" !!!!! Fix the Circadian Rhythms/put them back in sync with the Schumann Resonances/Natural schedule of hertz (which exactly correlate with the Delta/Theta/ Alpha Schedule above) - and the Mitochondrial Genome(s)/Generator (s) startworking correctly again!!! Everything grows back and begins functioning asbefore... that is unless mankind has interfered in "the mean time" - and removed brain/body parts. In theory - and in practice, even they should grow back. To understand why I say that, everyone should read "The Body Electric" by Dr. Robert O. Becker. All I know is that when I fixed my own and my children's Circadian Rhythms,(we went back to a schedule in sync with the Life/Light Cycles of the planet and began using developmental methods that did NOT keep us in a ROTE Theta State all day!) our Mitochondrial Genome(s)/Generator (s) began working correctly. My sons were cured of Autism, my daughter of Learning Disabilityand I was cured of a severe auto-immune system failure. Does this mean I can better handle Elecrosmog? Yes. BUT, WHY WOULD I WANT TO EVEN BE NEAR IT WHEN IT'S DESIGNED TO THROW OFF OUR RHYTHMS AND DEFORM OUR DNA?!?!??!? The interesting thing about all of this is that The Amish have none of these problems. They refuse to partake of any of this Electromagnetic/ Circadian ARRYTHMIA!!! ! Another interesting thing is that Nikola Tesla warned the Electrical/Electron ic companies that all of this would happen if they continued on their path to electrify the United States. Electricity that is not oscillating in the NATURAL HERTZ FOR PLANET EARTH DESTROYS THE STRUCTURE OF ITS MATTER AS WELL AS THE STRUCTURE OF ALL OF THE MATTER IN AND ON IT!!!!!!!!! He should have known. Tesla was the first man to actually record the Schumann Resonances. Pythagoras got to be the man credited for having first deduced their presence - through maths - and MUSICAL FREQUENCIES. (Those too aremeasured in HERTZ.) In short, this information re: Rhythmic Cycles of Life/Light, their correlation with the energy in our brains/bodies and the effect they have on the STRUCTURE of their MATTER has been around for a long, long, long, long, longtime. The knowledge of all of this was just hidden from us. NOW it's coming out and why? Because the structure of our MATTER is under ATTACK and people are finally beginning to put this information back together again - with the Life/Light Cycles of us AND the planet!!! Since this attack has been going on far longer than the 20th century, (as per programs that induce inteernal electrosmog by ROTE tasks) there are so many things designed by mankind to throw off our Circadian Rhythms and destroy the structure of OUR matter that they aren't even believable by most folks. One of them is simply sitting us in chairs all day. It throws off our Circadian Rhythms. No one is designed to sit in a chair all day... No one... The Arrhythmia caused by such an act = the inhibition of the energy wavesnecessary to form MATTER... Electrosmog = the same thing... Faith --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Loni <loni326@... > wrote: > > But I see most people taking a whole lot bigger punch before they are knocked out than some of us. >  > Exactly my point; GENETICS >  > Loni > > --- On Sun, 4/11/10, Evie <evie15422@. ..> wrote: > > > From: Evie <evie15422@. ..> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: EMS Genetic? > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > Date: Sunday, April 11, 2010, 11:07 AM > > >  > > > > Hi, Snoshoe, >  > I basically agree with you, but, imo, some of us show a freakishly better ability to react to toxins of all kinds. That "freakish" component is what I think may be genetically related. I think you are right, tho--you can only trash the earth with so much for so long before 100% of living beings here will begin to feel it and react.  [On a totally different note, cancer gene? Give me a break. Like anybody cannot comedown with cancer given the right amount of toxic crap?] >  > just my 2 cents, > Diane > > --- On Sun, 4/11/10, snoshoe_2 <snoshoe_2@yahoo. com> wrote: > > From: snoshoe_2 <snoshoe_2@yahoo. com> > Subject: [eSens] Re: EMS Genetic? > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > Date: Sunday, April 11, 2010, 1:54 AM > >  > > I have a very different take on this genetic (eugenic) stuff. - > > Everyone will get cancer if given enough exposure to a toxin that causes it. > Everyone, will get esens, if given enough exposure, everyone will catch avirus if given enough exposure, etc. > > Do you all really think we just suddenly have gotten a cancer or other gene in just the last 30-40 years? Just out of the blue, because our grandparents didn't have it, our parents didn't have it, they didn't have diabetes,they didn't have low thyroid, etc., etc. - for the most part. -UNLESS - they'd been exposed to something that caused that deterioration. > > We've gone from almost zero cancer to 50%, yes, minimum 50% of the North American and UK population. That is the statistics. > 100% of us are projected to get it by the year 2020. That is the CDC's last projection I saw. It may have moved forward (closer) however, since we were already ahead of their projection layout by about 10% several years ago. > > So 100% of us have cancer genes? I don't think so. It is just another wayto make money for the petroleum> which owns the chemical> which owns the pharmeceutical companies, while treating what you are told are differing symptoms, requiring different medications, because only they have the answers,and in the process will keep you sick, keep you giving them your money, and kill you in the end, because it never cures anything. > > Only nature can cure nature. > > Yes, some people will show symptoms sooner in any condition, we're all built differently, but if we have a genetic weakness where did that come from? It came from exposure - exposure to the same things in our environment that have made us sick now; > > 1. Radiation > 2. Chemicals (including inbreeding) > 3. Heavy metals/elements in toxic doses > 4. Injury > 5. Nutritional Deficiency > 6. Mass microbial infection (equalling chemical exposure) -via a sick person, direct injection by vaccine, aerosols, water, etc. > > All these are reversible if given enough time and resources. > > "Nothing happens unexpectedly, everything has an indication, we only haveto observe the connections. " > > That's my 2 cents. I just think you're barking up the wrong tree. > > ~ Snoshoe > > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, paulpjc@ wrote: > > > > Puk replies - lets call it the vanguard gene ! > > > > > > In a message dated 09/04/2010 15:02:23 GMT Daylight Time, > > robert_connolly@ ... writes: > > > > I had my genetic testing done and just got my results back and it seems > > that I have the genes that are related to susceptibility of getting chronic > > lukemia. It costs $1,000 and there are testing centers that are poppingup > > everywhere. > > > > My father was a telephone switchboard operator then radar policeman that > > died of brain cancer. > > > > Perhaps this is a marker for EHS? Your body, mind soul saying "Stay away > > from EM fields" ? > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Hi Diane,
Thanks for reading and not throwing out my - facts. I'm also on Facebook and trying to explain this same concept to mothers of Autistics (This is Autism Awareness month.) and the difficulty is the same here as there. What I'm now telling them is an illustration that relates not just to waterfilters, which relates to the same problems everyone here is facing, but to the same things everyone is facing. Here is the gist of it: For those who are having trouble understanding why Circadian Rhythms and not Vaccines are the ULTIMATE Cause of Autism (and all other Mitochondrial dysfunctions - which means everything!), let me put it to you this way: Imagine one of those simple filters used to purify water being taken OUT ofthe spout in which it had been placed. All manner of toxins would flow through into your drinking cup. (Yuk!) Now, would you have said it is the toxins causing the problem or the lack of the filter that was causing the problem, especally since the replacement of the filter ends the toxic "attack"?...... Yes, the lack of a FILTER is the problem. Therefore, our children's "purifier" has been disarmed. This soldier's purifier(from my last video post. See: http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/661.html ) had been disarmed... This is why he had to have an external purifier - that made money for the "purifying companies". The result is that any kind of toxin (which, in my case was formaldahyde, paint; everything new that could be placed in a house) was attacking me in the same way the vaccines were attacking my children. We replaced the "filter" and we were ALL CURED. Folks, it's the lack of a FILTER, not the toxins, that's causing all of theproblems, and your government has discovered the way to relieve you and your children of this filter..... I can tell you how to simply replace - your filters.... For those who are having trouble understanding why Circadian Rhythms and not Vaccines are the ULTIMATE Cause of Autism (and all other Mitochondrial dysfunctions - which means everything!), let me put it to you this way: Imagine one of those simple filters used to purify water being taken OUT ofthe spout in which it had been placed. All manner of toxins would flow through into your drinking cup. (Yuk!) Now, would you have said it is the toxins causing the problem or the lack of the filter that was causing the problem, especally since the replacement of the filter ends the toxic "attack"?...... ... Yes, the lack of a FILTER is the problem. Therefore, our children's "purifier" has been disarmed. This soldier's purifier(from my last video post) hadbeen disarmed... This is why he had to have an external purifier - that made money for the "purifying companies". This filter = the protection we all need from ALL Electrosmog. Whether ornot you understand it, everything is a frequency whether or not it comes from a cell phone tower, the paint from your walls or the water from your spouts.. The result is that any kind of toxin (which, in my case was formaldahyde, paint; everything new that could be placed in a house) was attacking me in the same way the vaccines were attacking my children. We replaced the "filter" and we were ALL CURED. Folks, it's the lack of a FILTER, not the toxins, that's causing all of theproblems, and your government has discovered the way to relieve you and your children of this filter..... I can tell you how to simply replace - your filters.... . "Everything works out fine. I don't know how. It's a mystery!" --- On Thu, 4/15/10, Evie <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Evie <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: EMS Genetic? To: [hidden email] Date: Thursday, April 15, 2010, 3:55 PM Hi Faith, Welcome, btw! Thanks for sharing your thoughts and considerable knowledge with us on this subject. It is obvious you have done alot of readingon this. I am mulling over what you are saying and trying to digest it--it is actually a totally foreign concept for me. Perhaps others here have heard of ES being connected to circadian rhythms, but I haven't (other than the rather obvious inability to sleep we so often encounter). My nutritionist wrote a book (called "Mastering Leptin", by Byron Richards)in which half of the book explained how hormones work together as a symphony (with leptin being the orchestra conductor) to help keep your circadian rhythms in sync. (A good bit of the book dealt with how eating habits play into this and half of the book dealt with "diet helps".) I have followed what I learned in that book and my health has gotten remarkably better since doing so. However, enter a mold and pesticide incident, and I got much worse ES-wise (tho my health over-all has continued to improved) and over the last year my ES is also much better after homeopathy to detox my bone marrow. Thanks again for sharing, Diane aka Evie --- On Thu, 4/15/10, faith_creates <[hidden email]> wrote: From: faith_creates <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] Re: EMS Genetic? To: [hidden email] Date: Thursday, April 15, 2010, 2:38 PM The "Freakish Component" isn't found so much in the genes (which everyone just assumes is the Nuclear, versus the Mitochondrial, type that's being discussed) but in the "in sync Circadian Rhythms" that some people still possess. To make a very long explanation short, when our Circadian Rhythms are in sync with the LIFE CYCLES of the Planet, called The Schumann Resonances, thennot only is there: 1) a lot less Electromagnetic sensitivity experienced, but also 2) a lot less toxic build up of anything in the brain/body and 3) no Mitochondrial Energy deficiency. In short, our "Circadian Bone's" connected to our "Mitochondrial Design/Energy Bone". Throw the first off sync with the planet's Life/Light Cycles (through ANY form of electrosmog - even that coming from other people as well as technology) and you inhibit the ability to Metabolize toxins as well as inhibiting the ability of the Mitochondria to form us correctly and fuel us fully. The Mitochondria themselves are affected as well since their loss of energyalso affects their ability to replicate themselves correctly. Therefore, they can't form or fuel anything else fully or correctly. Yes, throw off our Circadian Rhythms and you get the MITOCHONDRIAL GENETIC DAMAGE/DYSFUNCTION ( as well as the Nuclear damage/dysfunction) everyone istelling us causes all of the diseases, disorders, etc.. But, look again. What was it that caused that Damage/Dysfunction to begin with? It was the out of sync CIRCADIAN RHYTHMS that CAUSED the Mitochondrialdysfunction to BEGIN. Fix the Circadian Rhythms and Voila! The Mitochondria start working right, cells start working right, Metabolism starts working right - we detox ourselves of ALL OF THE POLLUTANTS and everything begins to form and function right - once again. What's throwing off the Circadian Rhythms to begin with? Our schedules/lifestyle s and developmental/ job programs. Electrosmog is just the icing on the cake. For more info re: the way in which electrosmog affects our LIFE CYCLES, see: http://www.hese- project.org/ hese-uk/en/ papers/salford_ mammalian_ brain_2008. pdf The Schumann Resonances = electromagnetic frequencies that come from the Earth's core and exist between the Earth's crust and the Ionosphere. These resonances perfectly correlate with the ELECTROMAGNETIC STATES in which OURMITOCHONDRIA/ BRAINS/BODIES are DESIGNED to be in day and night FOR MAXIMUM GROWTH AND FUNCTION. Those states look like this: 1) Delta State (1-4 hertz) for powering all the way down to sleep during DARKNESS 2) Theta State (4-7 hz) during DAWN and DUSK for smoothly transitioning between Delta state and 3) Alpha State (7-12 hz) during the DAY. Note how the states correlate also with the AMOUNT OF LIGHT one receives asthe planet turns. This amount of light is also the TRIGGER for placing us into these states. This is how we know which state we're designed to be in.Example: it is the amount of dark we receive that actually triggers the production of Melitonin within us to put us to sleep, firstly down into ThetaState (4-7 hz.) then all the way down in Delta (1-4hz). Just as a sidenote, there are 2 other states, Beta (13-30 hz) and Gamma (30-69 hz) and both are for varying degrees of emergency, one lesser, one greater - depending on the amount of energy needed for either/or. These are no where near necessary for day-to-day living experiences. Make NO MISTAKE. These states are Electromagnetic in both nature and frequency. Therefore, when we think/do (ROTE, REDUCTIONARY/ REPETITIVE) things that keep us in Theta State all day, this depletes the necessary amounts of energy/electricity/ frequencies to not only the brain/body, but to the Mitochondria themselves. This is not enough energy for them to replicate themselves properly much more anything else in the entire brain/body! This can be called "The Brown Out State". When we think/do (STRESSFUL) things all day that keep us in Beta State, this overdoses the Mitochondria - as well as the rest of the brain/body with TOO MUCH ELECTRICTY!! !! When we alternate between tasks that place us in either Theta or Beta States all day, we get the exact same affect as if we are sitting next to a cellphone tower or near "dirty electricity" ! We are OSCILLATING AT WRONG FREQUENCIES FOR LIFE ON EARTH!!!! Theta State and Beta State in the daytime =a frequency that is actually ALIEN to Life on Earth - just as is every other manmade frequency!!! We are DESIGNED to be in Theta State during the dawn and dusk hours ALONE as this is the REM State of sleep. (It's also the state in which hypnotists place their subjects for auto-suggestion. ) We are DESIGNED to be in a calm, ALPHA State all day as this is the state of creativity necessary to SURVIVAL!!! The fact that we are living in the Alternating Currents of "Brown Out and Burn Out" Almost ALL the time, is what is causing the damages to the Mitochondrial Genome. Medicine then looks at that gene damage, tell us IT is the cause of ALL of our problems, (However, they ERRONEOUSLY tell us that the Nuclear Genome isthe one that needs to be fixed, not the Mitochondrial! !!) when it is not the cause, it is the RESULT of CIRCADIAN "ARRHYTHMIA" !!!!! Fix the Circadian Rhythms/put them back in sync with the Schumann Resonances/Natural schedule of hertz (which exactly correlate with the Delta/Theta/ Alpha Schedule above) - and the Mitochondrial Genome(s)/Generator (s) startworking correctly again!!! Everything grows back and begins functioning asbefore... that is unless mankind has interfered in "the mean time" - and removed brain/body parts. In theory - and in practice, even they should grow back. To understand why I say that, everyone should read "The Body Electric" by Dr. Robert O. Becker. All I know is that when I fixed my own and my children's Circadian Rhythms,(we went back to a schedule in sync with the Life/Light Cycles of the planet and began using developmental methods that did NOT keep us in a ROTE Theta State all day!) our Mitochondrial Genome(s)/Generator (s) began working correctly. My sons were cured of Autism, my daughter of Learning Disabilityand I was cured of a severe auto-immune system failure. Does this mean I can better handle Elecrosmog? Yes. BUT, WHY WOULD I WANT TO EVEN BE NEAR IT WHEN IT'S DESIGNED TO THROW OFF OUR RHYTHMS AND DEFORM OUR DNA?!?!??!? The interesting thing about all of this is that The Amish have none of these problems. They refuse to partake of any of this Electromagnetic/ Circadian ARRYTHMIA!!! ! Another interesting thing is that Nikola Tesla warned the Electrical/Electron ic companies that all of this would happen if they continued on their path to electrify the United States. Electricity that is not oscillating in the NATURAL HERTZ FOR PLANET EARTH DESTROYS THE STRUCTURE OF ITS MATTER AS WELL AS THE STRUCTURE OF ALL OF THE MATTER IN AND ON IT!!!!!!!!! He should have known. Tesla was the first man to actually record the Schumann Resonances. Pythagoras got to be the man credited for having first deduced their presence - through maths - and MUSICAL FREQUENCIES. (Those too aremeasured in HERTZ.) In short, this information re: Rhythmic Cycles of Life/Light, their correlation with the energy in our brains/bodies and the effect they have on the STRUCTURE of their MATTER has been around for a long, long, long, long, longtime. The knowledge of all of this was just hidden from us. NOW it's coming out and why? Because the structure of our MATTER is under ATTACK and people are finally beginning to put this information back together again - with the Life/Light Cycles of us AND the planet!!! Since this attack has been going on far longer than the 20th century, (as per programs that induce inteernal electrosmog by ROTE tasks) there are so many things designed by mankind to throw off our Circadian Rhythms and destroy the structure of OUR matter that they aren't even believable by most folks. One of them is simply sitting us in chairs all day. It throws off our Circadian Rhythms. No one is designed to sit in a chair all day... No one... The Arrhythmia caused by such an act = the inhibition of the energy wavesnecessary to form MATTER... Electrosmog = the same thing... Faith --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Loni <loni326@... > wrote: > > But I see most people taking a whole lot bigger punch before they are knocked out than some of us. >  > Exactly my point; GENETICS >  > Loni > > --- On Sun, 4/11/10, Evie <evie15422@. ..> wrote: > > > From: Evie <evie15422@. ..> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: EMS Genetic? > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > Date: Sunday, April 11, 2010, 11:07 AM > > >  > > > > Hi, Snoshoe, >  > I basically agree with you, but, imo, some of us show a freakishly better ability to react to toxins of all kinds. That "freakish" component is what I think may be genetically related. I think you are right, tho--you can only trash the earth with so much for so long before 100% of living beings here will begin to feel it and react.  [On a totally different note, cancer gene? Give me a break. Like anybody cannot come down with cancer given the right amount of toxic crap?] >  > just my 2 cents, > Diane > > --- On Sun, 4/11/10, snoshoe_2 <snoshoe_2@yahoo. com> wrote: > > From: snoshoe_2 <snoshoe_2@yahoo. com> > Subject: [eSens] Re: EMS Genetic? > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > Date: Sunday, April 11, 2010, 1:54 AM > >  > > I have a very different take on this genetic (eugenic) stuff. - > > Everyone will get cancer if given enough exposure to a toxin that causes it. > Everyone, will get esens, if given enough exposure, everyone will catch avirus if given enough exposure, etc. > > Do you all really think we just suddenly have gotten a cancer or other gene in just the last 30-40 years? Just out of the blue, because our grandparents didn't have it, our parents didn't have it, they didn't have diabetes,they didn't have low thyroid, etc., etc. - for the most part. -UNLESS - they'd been exposed to something that caused that deterioration. > > We've gone from almost zero cancer to 50%, yes, minimum 50% of the North American and UK population. That is the statistics. > 100% of us are projected to get it by the year 2020. That is the CDC's last projection I saw. It may have moved forward (closer) however, since we were already ahead of their projection layout by about 10% several years ago. > > So 100% of us have cancer genes? I don't think so. It is just another wayto make money for the petroleum> which owns the chemical> which owns the pharmeceutical companies, while treating what you are told are differing symptoms, requiring different medications, because only they have the answers,and in the process will keep you sick, keep you giving them your money, and kill you in the end, because it never cures anything. > > Only nature can cure nature. > > Yes, some people will show symptoms sooner in any condition, we're all built differently, but if we have a genetic weakness where did that come from? It came from exposure - exposure to the same things in our environment that have made us sick now; > > 1. Radiation > 2. Chemicals (including inbreeding) > 3. Heavy metals/elements in toxic doses > 4. Injury > 5. Nutritional Deficiency > 6. Mass microbial infection (equalling chemical exposure) -via a sick person, direct injection by vaccine, aerosols, water, etc. > > All these are reversible if given enough time and resources. > > "Nothing happens unexpectedly, everything has an indication, we only haveto observe the connections. " > > That's my 2 cents. I just think you're barking up the wrong tree. > > ~ Snoshoe > > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, paulpjc@ wrote: > > > > Puk replies - lets call it the vanguard gene ! > > > > > > In a message dated 09/04/2010 15:02:23 GMT Daylight Time, > > robert_connolly@ ... writes: > > > > I had my genetic testing done and just got my results back and it seems > > that I have the genes that are related to susceptibility of getting chronic > > lukemia. It costs $1,000 and there are testing centers that are poppingup > > everywhere. > > > > My father was a telephone switchboard operator then radar policeman that > > died of brain cancer. > > > > Perhaps this is a marker for EHS? Your body, mind soul saying "Stay away > > from EM fields" ? > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Faith, Circadian rhythms---also zero point and premier research
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Hi, Fatih, what exactly did you do, I'd like to hear, to get back in rhythmand be less sensitive? What autoimmune conditions did you get over? How long did this all take?
To the list, my doctor (holistic) has a colleague next door, who is very knowledgeable about EMFs. I told him my issues in a consult and he let me tryvarious devices. He favors Zero Point and Premier Research (the latter usually ordered thru doctors, though I think you can find it on the web, too). I held an orgone disk (that is often buried around houses and cell towers) and it felt good. I also held a zero point frequency disk and liked it and will probably order it. None of these feel as good as being away from EMFs but they did help. |
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PUK - I comes to me that another way of strengthening yourself against the
EMR threat, is to use the power of positive thinking, and to meditate/visualise gaining power over the EMR, there must be many teqnuiqes for this related to chakras etc....I suspect that in many cases this would be more profound than a prtectection device, the power of the organism goes very deep me thinks. In a message dated 16/04/2010 01:22:17 GMT Daylight Time, [hidden email] writes: Hi, Fatih, what exactly did you do, I'd like to hear, to get back in rhythm and be less sensitive? What autoimmune conditions did you get over? How long did this all take? To the list, my doctor (holistic) has a colleague next door, who is very knowledgeable about EMFs. I told him my issues in a consult and he let me try various devices. He favors Zero Point and Premier Research (the latter usually ordered thru doctors, though I think you can find it on the web, too). I held an orgone disk (that is often buried around houses and cell towers) and it felt good. I also held a zero point frequency disk and liked it and will probably order it. None of these feel as good as being away from EMFs but they did help. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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