Too smart Too late

Hi all,
my subject line is just to say I know I put the cart before the horse... I ordered the K-2 Delux Meter on this page and now I am asking if anyone has had experience with them.  

Yeah, EMF does scramble brains, and Jodi thinks she has problems on the wittless stand lol.  Sorry, just an attempt at humor.

http://lessemf.com/gauss.html#103

Will much appreciate any info

Aimee

It seems that it is used for paranormal investigations ..., but it only measures ac-magnetic fields and is far from sensitive.
Most meters on lessemf are pretty bad, even those that cost 1500 $.
The prices are also a bit steep.
Their gigahertz meters, renamed as "digital and professional combination meters" are fine but probably cheaper elsewhere, for instance at  
http://www.slt.co/Products/EMFMeters/ ( one of the first hits on google ).
Anyway, at least you didn't pay much and that deluxe meter may be still be of some use, it will do something.
Otherwise send it back and order something else, like
shieldmaterial for your monitor :  http://www.lessemf.com/1210.pdf
or a shielded cap or gloves : http://www.lessemf.com/personal.html
or other great stuff they happen to have in their store.
Good luck, and keep shopping-carts in check !


--- In [hidden email], "Aimee" <ohkanaduh@...> wrote:

Thanks for the reply.  LOL.  I need to replace my tv set so do you think gloves and cap will work?  my husband would object!  hahaha.
 
Yeah darn I somehow never saw the paranormal stuff.... duh.  I will be able to return it if itls too hoky.  I actually did order this from lessemf.com but will check out the first one u sent .
 
thanks again
Aimee

--- On Tue, 3/5/13, ad <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: ad <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: Too smart Too late
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Date: Tuesday, March 5, 2013, 3:00 PM


It seems that it is used for paranormal investigations ..., but it only measures ac-magnetic fields and is far from sensitive.
Most meters on lessemf are pretty bad, even those that cost 1500 $.
The prices are also a bit steep.
Their gigahertz meters, renamed as "digital and professional combination meters" are fine but probably cheaper elsewhere, for instance at 
http://www.slt.co/Products/EMFMeters/ ( one of the first hits on google ).
Anyway, at least you didn't pay much and that deluxe meter may be still be of some use, it will do something.
Otherwise send it back and order something else, like
shieldmaterial for your monitor :  http://www.lessemf.com/1210.pdf
or a shielded cap or gloves : http://www.lessemf.com/personal.html
or other great stuff they happen to have in their store.
Good luck, and keep shopping-carts in check !


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Here's a connection to the "paranormal" info. If a house has high magnetic fields, spirits/ghosts can get trapped inside of these fields.Its like the pull is so strong, they can't get out- without help. This is why there is so much "paranormal" activity in houses with high emfs, especially high magnetic fields. So paranormal isn't all that hokey. Lizzie
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      Thanks for the reply.  LOL.  I need to replace my tv set so do you think gloves and cap will work?  my husband would object!  hahaha.

 

Yeah darn I somehow never saw the paranormal stuff.... duh.  I will be able to return it if itls too hoky.  I actually did order this from lessemf.com but will check out the first one u sent .

 

thanks again

Aimee



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Subject: [eSens] Re: Too smart Too late

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Date: Tuesday, March 5, 2013, 3:00 PM



It seems that it is used for paranormal investigations ..., but it only measures ac-magnetic fields and is far from sensitive.

Most meters on lessemf are pretty bad, even those that cost 1500 $.

The prices are also a bit steep.

Their gigahertz meters, renamed as "digital and professional combination meters" are fine but probably cheaper elsewhere, for instance at  

http://www.slt.co/Products/EMFMeters/ ( one of the first hits on google ).

Anyway, at least you didn't pay much and that deluxe meter may be still be of some use, it will do something.

Otherwise send it back and order something else, like

shieldmaterial for your monitor :  http://www.lessemf.com/1210.pdf

or a shielded cap or gloves : http://www.lessemf.com/personal.html

or other great stuff they happen to have in their store.

Good luck, and keep shopping-carts in check !



--- In [hidden email], "Aimee"  wrote:

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> Hi all,

> my subject line is just to say I know I put the cart before the horse... I ordered the K-2 Delux Meter on this page and now I am asking if anyone has had experience with them.  

>

> Yeah, EMF does scramble brains, and Jodi thinks she has problems on the wittless stand lol.  Sorry, just an attempt at humor.

>

> http://lessemf.com/gauss.html#103

>

> Will much appreciate any info

>

> Aimee

>



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Thank you Lizzie.  Actually I meant the meter might be hokey, not the paranormal. But that was very interesting information.
 
Aimee

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From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>
Subject: RE: [eSens] Re: Too smart Too late
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Date: Tuesday, March 5, 2013, 4:36 PM


Here's a connection to the "paranormal" info. If a house has high magnetic fields, spirits/ghosts can get trapped inside of these fields.Its like the pull is so strong, they can't get out- without help. This is why there is so much "paranormal" activity in houses with high emfs, especially high magnetic fields. So paranormal isn't all that hokey. Lizzie
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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 14:46:37 -0800
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      Thanks for the reply.  LOL.  I need to replace my tv set so do you think gloves and cap will work?  my husband would object!  hahaha.



Yeah darn I somehow never saw the paranormal stuff.... duh.  I will be able to return it if itls too hoky.  I actually did order this from lessemf.com but will check out the first one u sent .



thanks again

Aimee



--- On Tue, 3/5/13, ad [hidden email]> wrote:



From: ad [hidden email]>

Subject: [eSens] Re: Too smart Too late

To: [hidden email]

Date: Tuesday, March 5, 2013, 3:00 PM



It seems that it is used for paranormal investigations ..., but it only measures ac-magnetic fields and is far from sensitive.

Most meters on lessemf are pretty bad, even those that cost 1500 $.

The prices are also a bit steep.

Their gigahertz meters, renamed as "digital and professional combination meters" are fine but probably cheaper elsewhere, for instance at 

http://www.slt.co/Products/EMFMeters/ ( one of the first hits on google ).

Anyway, at least you didn't pay much and that deluxe meter may be still be of some use, it will do something.

Otherwise send it back and order something else, like

shieldmaterial for your monitor :  http://www.lessemf.com/1210.pdf

or a shielded cap or gloves : http://www.lessemf.com/personal.html

or other great stuff they happen to have in their store.

Good luck, and keep shopping-carts in check !



--- In [hidden email], "Aimee"  wrote:

>

> Hi all,

> my subject line is just to say I know I put the cart before the horse... I ordered the K-2 Delux Meter on this page and now I am asking if anyone has had experience with them. 

>

> Yeah, EMF does scramble brains, and Jodi thinks she has problems on the wittless stand lol.  Sorry, just an attempt at humor.

>

> http://lessemf.com/gauss.html#103

>

> Will much appreciate any info

>

> Aimee

>



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I bid on a meter like that on ebay recently.  It wss sold for 28 dollars plus shipping.  It measured frequencies in the 50-60 hertz range plus also the range for cell towers.  They claimed it also was used for ghost hunting.  I was going to buy it for just that reason.  My bedroom has the breaker box in it and it is haunted.  I have a different take on it though.  These beings live on dirty electricity.  Electricity which is bad to us is like food to them.  There are ufo's near power lines that even pull power from the lines into their ufo's.  There is a connection between ufo's and the paranormal.
--- In [hidden email], "Aimee" <ohkanaduh@...> wrote:

yes, i have a couple of 'ghost meters' - for $25...
and they compare to the other meters i have
used - a very expensive meter from the utility
company and a trifield meter borrowed from a
friend.  

i would not be surprised if bad electricity is food
for bad energy creatures.  poison to us, good
for them.  

everything is energy.  love, patricia


On Mar 6, 2013, at 5:57 PM, fantasticsam131 wrote:

Well, i would be surprised if these wild stories make any sense.
I also do not see how these still fit into this message-board.
It goes a little bit too far in my view, actually.
Not just the theories about ghosts, also the idea that these are "bad".
It seems that cats like radiation too, and certain healthy plants and mushrooms, are these bad as well ?
Well, don't ask a mouse, not even a non-religious one, if cats are devils !
People believed in ghosts long before there were any breakerboxes.
But you can switch these off at night, "evil" creatures living off or captured by dirty electricity should leave as a result and at least it will reduce your emf-exposure during your sleep.



--- In [hidden email], Patricia Robinett <patricia@...> wrote:

I respectfully disagree with you. I cleared my home of high emfs fields, and all the ghosts/spirits- hauntedness is GONE. The ufo's do "not" pull power from power lines.  This might surprise you, and others, but they have much more advanced technologies then we,here, on earth do. We got fiber optics from the extra terrestials...and we also got the INTERNET from them. Does this sound like a race of beings who need to use energy from power lines?  The whole truth will come out, and when it does, all will see the real story. The sad part is,its not the et's who are the enemy....its the slavery debt based system, run by elite.   Blessings,
 LizzieTo: [hidden email]
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I bid on a meter like that on ebay recently.  It wss sold for 28 dollars plus shipping.  It measured frequencies in the 50-60 hertz range plus also the range for cell towers.  They claimed it also was used for ghost hunting.  I was going to buy it for just that reason.  My bedroom has the breaker box in it and it is haunted.  I have a different take on it though.  These beings live on dirty electricity.  Electricity which is bad to us is like food to them.  There are ufo's near power lines that even pull power from the lines into their ufo's.  There is a connection between ufo's and the paranormal.

--- In [hidden email], "Aimee"  wrote:

>

> Hi all,

> my subject line is just to say I know I put the cart before the horse... I ordered the K-2 Delux Meter on this page and now I am asking if anyone has had experience with them.  

>

> Yeah, EMF does scramble brains, and Jodi thinks she has problems on the wittless stand lol.  Sorry, just an attempt at humor.

>

> http://lessemf.com/gauss.html#103

>

> Will much appreciate any info

>

> Aimee

>





   
     

   
   






       

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Technically, this should fall under the umbrella of emfs and the health effects. It is very stressing on the immune system, to try to sleep in a house that feels haunted. Many times, it is the emfs, and particularly the high magnetic fields, plus the wireless radiationmultiplies these fields....and this can make the perfect conditons for a haunted house. NOT because the ghost's live on this energy, but because they get "trapped" inside of the high fields. Having lived across the street from a funeral home for years...I can tell you, houses with high emfs,and factor in geopathic stress, which is far more common then people think it is.......and this is a perfect recipe for a sick house. And emfs do quality as a sick house. And there are many factors that come into this. High emfs, geopathic stress. haunted houses all effect the immune system. And while some do not think geopathic stressis related to ES, I beg to differ with you. I believe the radiation from geopathic stress IS the original root of the source, andthen came along the cell phone proliferation disaster, and it didn't take 20 years to manifest disease and unhealth like geopathic stress,the effects were seen very fast.  Radiation multiplies toxins/ heavy metals by 600% (Klinghardt) .  My working theory is, radiation from Geopathic stress also multiplies or maybe more accurately,AMPLIFIES the effects of wireless radiation and amplifies the effects of bad wiring, high magnetic fields,and dirty electricity. Lizzie
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Well, i would be surprised if these wild stories make any sense.

I also do not see how these still fit into this message-board.

It goes a little bit too far in my view, actually.

Not just the theories about ghosts, also the idea that these are "bad".

It seems that cats like radiation too, and certain healthy plants and mushrooms, are these bad as well ?

Well, don't ask a mouse, not even a non-religious one, if cats are devils !

People believed in ghosts long before there were any breakerboxes.

But you can switch these off at night, "evil" creatures living off or captured by dirty electricity should leave as a result and at least it will reduce your emf-exposure during your sleep.



--- In [hidden email], Patricia Robinett  wrote:

>

> yes, i have a couple of 'ghost meters' - for $25...

> and they compare to the other meters i have

> used - a very expensive meter from the utility

> company and a trifield meter borrowed from a

> friend.  

>

> i would not be surprised if bad electricity is food

> for bad energy creatures.  poison to us, good

> for them.  

>

> everything is energy.  love, patricia

>

>

> On Mar 6, 2013, at 5:57 PM, fantasticsam131 wrote:

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> >

> > I bid on a meter like that on ebay recently.  It wss sold for 28 dollars plus shipping.  It measured frequencies in the 50-60 hertz range plus also the range for cell towers.  They claimed it also was used for ghost hunting.  I was going to buy it for just that reason.  My bedroom has the breaker box in it and it is haunted.  I have a different take on it though.  These beings live on dirty electricity.  Electricity which is bad to us is like food to them.  There are ufo's near power lines that even pull power from the lines into their ufo's.  There is a connection between ufo's and the paranormal.

> > --- In [hidden email], "Aimee"  wrote:

> >>

> >> Hi all,

> >> my subject line is just to say I know I put the cart before the horse... I ordered the K-2 Delux Meter on this page and now I am asking if anyone has had experience with them.  

> >>

> >> Yeah, EMF does scramble brains, and Jodi thinks she has problems on the wittless stand lol.  Sorry, just an attempt at humor.

> >>

> >> http://lessemf.com/gauss.html#103

> >>

> >> Will much appreciate any info

> >>

> >> Aimee

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> >

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> > Yahoo! Groups Links

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i did not buy the meter to find ghosts.
i bought them to measure EMF at my
home, which was very high in EMF...
the meters helped educate me about
EMF.  why be mean?  kindness is best.
love, patricia


On Mar 6, 2013, at 7:08 PM, ad wrote:

Yes Patricia, that's the only question I had.  :)  Now I'm getting lost, sorry guys.  I would like to know how the heck do I read it when it comes in?  I know nothing about them as I thought I would not have to learn.  Sadly I do.
thanks for the replies
Aimee

--- On Wed, 3/6/13, Patricia Robinett <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Patricia Robinett <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Too smart Too late
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, March 6, 2013, 5:42 PM


i did not buy the meter to find ghosts.
i bought them to measure EMF at my
home, which was very high in EMF...
the meters helped educate me about
EMF.  why be mean?  kindness is best.
love, patricia


On Mar 6, 2013, at 7:08 PM, ad wrote:




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a quick education -
put it up next to a transformer, such as
one of those boxes on your computer
equipment, like an external hard drive -
it's the thing between the wall outlet and
the drive... it should go wild.  then you
will know what a 'hot' emf reading looks
like.  put it next to your frig when it is
'working' and you will see a similar
reading... clothes washers and dryers,
fans, vacuum cleaners... in anything that
goes around and around, the EMF will be
high.  measure all over your house and
make note of where the spots are that
are 'high emf' and 'low emf' - and focus
your energies on the low emf areas.
if there is a high emf area, do what it
takes to make it safe.  get rid of hair
dryers, electric alarm clocks,
microwave ovens, etc... sleep - and work -
as far as you can away from the hot spots.  
i used to keep a meter by my side as i
worked, because the neighbors had
electronic equipment that would go off
at any time day or night, resulting in
cramps and headaches for me.
i'm so glad i'm out of that place.  
best of health to you, aimee!!  
love, patricia


On Mar 6, 2013, at 9:38 PM, Aimee wrote:

> Yes Patricia, that's the only question I had.  :)  Now I'm getting lost, sorry guys.  I would like to know how the heck do I read it when it comes in?  I know nothing about them as I thought I would not have to learn.  Sadly I do.
> thanks for the replies
> Aimee

Thank you!  you're great :)
Aimee

--- On Wed, 3/6/13, Patricia Robinett <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Patricia Robinett <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Too smart Too late
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, March 6, 2013, 8:13 PM


a quick education -
put it up next to a transformer, such as
one of those boxes on your computer
equipment, like an external hard drive -
it's the thing between the wall outlet and
the drive... it should go wild.  then you
will know what a 'hot' emf reading looks
like.  put it next to your frig when it is
'working' and you will see a similar
reading... clothes washers and dryers,
fans, vacuum cleaners... in anything that
goes around and around, the EMF will be
high.  measure all over your house and
make note of where the spots are that
are 'high emf' and 'low emf' - and focus
your energies on the low emf areas.
if there is a high emf area, do what it
takes to make it safe.  get rid of hair
dryers, electric alarm clocks,
microwave ovens, etc... sleep - and work -
as far as you can away from the hot spots.   
i used to keep a meter by my side as i
worked, because the neighbors had
electronic equipment that would go off
at any time day or night, resulting in
cramps and headaches for me.
i'm so glad i'm out of that place. 
best of health to you, aimee!! 
love, patricia


On Mar 6, 2013, at 9:38 PM, Aimee wrote:

> Yes Patricia, that's the only question I had.  :)  Now I'm getting lost, sorry guys.  I would like to know how the heck do I read it when it comes in?  I know nothing about them as I thought I would not have to learn.  Sadly I do.
> thanks for the replies
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Well, if some houses are haunted, then there are likely to be many more houses that are only believed to be haunted.
Stress can be caused by simply believing wild stories or imaginative tricks of the mind.
I was stunned to see that this meter is promoted as a ghost-meter, not as a meter for environments where ghosts, if any, are more likely to be trapped.
It only measures low-frequency magnetic fields ( a bit ), and in no way indicates how much emf there is in total.
Your argument that geopathic disturbances can explain the theory that some houses were haunted long before people had electricity is a valid one.
Geopathic stress is in general certainly a matter worth looking into.
Actually i think my holiday-house suffers from it, it stands on a slope with a river on one side, probably water is running underneath, perhaps influencing the static magnetic fields.
There are always plenty of (stinging ) nettles in the garden, which is supposed to be a bad sign.
Actually, this may interest you, some years ago after hearing my complaints about the energy-field, a ritual has been performed by a shamanistic friend, she said that quite a few trapped spirits of deceased people were led away, no evil creatures but rather victims, which resonates with what you are saying.
The energy-field in the house as experienced by me did not improve though, so the idea of ghosts remained a purely theoretical concept for me, with nothing substantial to back it up and make it appear as reality.
It is nicely located house, with wonderful forests around and not many people, no emf apart from my own stuff and wiring which i am working on, it would be a shame to bulldoze it because of possible geopathic health-effects, you can't have everything perfect, especially in these "civilized" times.


--- In [hidden email], Elizabeth thode <lizt777@...> wrote:

I am looking to buy a meter for the RF, with 4G everywhere in London & most of UK soon.  What meter/s do you guys recommend for RF ?  Which ones  for  EF & magnetic field ? Preferably not expensive ones but can really do the job.

thanks
alice

--- In [hidden email], "Aimee" <ohkanaduh@...> wrote:

Interesting story, thanks for sharing that. Well, think about it: without a meter, its hard to "prove" to others that cell phones and wirelessemit radiation. And even WITH a meter, many don't believe this radiation is harmful. Some people are sensitive to wireless, some are sensitive to many different frequencies,and some are sensitive to the energies of what some call: "ghosts/spirits".  Your Shamanist friend is very wise.  There are methods to transmute Geopathic stress. But to my perspective, these methodsmust also include elimating other sources of emfs (IE: bad wiring, high magnetic fields, reducingwireless, ect).Just as an example, if an area, say an appliance that emits alot of dirty electricity, happensto BE in the direct path of Geopathic stress, the geopathic stress willl amplify the dirty electricity.This is my working theory. Can I prove this? Only in that I have FELT the difference in my body,in my mood, in my sleep. That's all the proof I need. However, the below article does say thesame thing. (see: www.landandspirit.net/html/body_geopathic_stress.html) Also, it is not wise to have one's bed over a place of geopathic stress.  There are many articles/research about this very topic,and as many of ES symptoms are eerily similiar to geopathic stress symptoms,only much more severe, which makes sense, in that geopathic stress lines, are shown to be MOREpowerful, when combined with areas that are heavily polluted by electro pollution.  Here's one, that does prove it, with testing.www.landandspirit.net/html/body_geopathic_stress.html(Its a long article but well worth the read!) "The global grids, like sha streams, show stronger parallel edge lines when they
are under stress, for example before an earth-quake, and also if they are
heavily electro-magnetically polluted.  Research Results (This is just one study, there are many more listed in this article)
The project involved the
testing of 24 different biological parameters involving 985 trial volunteers in
6,943 investigations using 462, 421 individual measurements.
The test results
were lined up by Biometric Significance and are valued with Serotonin
alteration, Blood Corpuscle Decline Speed and Immunoglobulin deficiencies in
lead position.
Serotonin decreased by a
factor of 6 on the ‘Disturbed Zone’ whilst increasing its metabolism to advance
Tryptophan in compensation. This reaction was highly significant.
The three Immunoglobulins
that were examined; IgA, IgG, and IgM showed clear reactions on the geopathic
zones. Immunoglobulin IgA showing the highest significant drop. These values
later normalised when latter blood samples were analysed when the subjects were
tested on the ‘neutral zone’."
 blessings,LizzieTo: [hidden email]
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Well, if some houses are haunted, then there are likely to be many more houses that are only believed to be haunted.

Stress can be caused by simply believing wild stories or imaginative tricks of the mind.

I was stunned to see that this meter is promoted as a ghost-meter, not as a meter for environments where ghosts, if any, are more likely to be trapped.

It only measures low-frequency magnetic fields ( a bit ), and in no way indicates how much emf there is in total.

Your argument that geopathic disturbances can explain the theory that some houses were haunted long before people had electricity is a valid one.

Geopathic stress is in general certainly a matter worth looking into.

Actually i think my holiday-house suffers from it, it stands on a slope with a river on one side, probably water is running underneath, perhaps influencing the static magnetic fields.

There are always plenty of (stinging ) nettles in the garden, which is supposed to be a bad sign.

Actually, this may interest you, some years ago after hearing my complaints about the energy-field, a ritual has been performed by a shamanistic friend, she said that quite a few trapped spirits of deceased people were led away, no evil creatures but rather victims, which resonates with what you are saying.

The energy-field in the house as experienced by me did not improve though, so the idea of ghosts remained a purely theoretical concept for me, with nothing substantial to back it up and make it appear as reality.

It is nicely located house, with wonderful forests around and not many people, no emf apart from my own stuff and wiring which i am working on, it would be a shame to bulldoze it because of possible geopathic health-effects, you can't have everything perfect, especially in these "civilized" times.



--- In [hidden email], Elizabeth thode <lizt777@...> wrote:

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> Technically, this should fall under the umbrella of emfs and the health effects. It is very stressing on the immune system, to try to sleep in a house that feels haunted. Many times, it is the emfs, and particularly the high magnetic fields, plus the wireless radiationmultiplies these fields....and this can make the perfect conditons for a haunted house. NOT because the ghost's live on this energy, but because they get "trapped" inside of the high fields. Having lived across the street from a funeral home for years...I can tell you, houses with high emfs,and factor in geopathic stress, which is far more common then people think it is.......and this is a perfect recipe for a sick house. And emfs do quality as a sick house. And there are many factors that come into this. High emfs, geopathic stress. haunted houses all effect the immune system. And while some do not think geopathic stressis related to ES, I beg to differ with you. I believe the radiation from geopathic stress IS the original root of the source, andthen came along the cell phone proliferation disaster, and it didn't take 20 years to manifest disease and unhealth like geopathic stress,the effects were seen very fast.  Radiation multiplies toxins/ heavy metals by 600% (Klinghardt) .  My working theory is, radiation from Geopathic stress also multiplies or maybe more accurately,AMPLIFIES the effects of wireless radiation and amplifies the effects of bad wiring, high magnetic fields,and dirty electricity. Lizzie

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Cheap and handy is the Cornet ED65 for RF, from about 900 Mhz onwards ( the mentioned 100 Mhz seems a lie, i doubt any Cornet with a Cornet antenna measures that anywhere close, see the lower diagram in the manual of the ED-85EX ), or a bit more expensive but with sound and more solid looking : the Accoustimeter.
For EF the Gigahertz meters give value for money, these measure both magnetic and electrical fields and are rather sensitive, the ME3030B is good for 50/60 Hz, the ME3830B goes upto 100kHz which covers most of dirty electicity, fluorescent and led-lamps and monitors.
Of course these are simple meters and no meter covers everything or is totally reliable, but having said that, these meters are great.
 
 
--- In [hidden email], "muii20" <mayflower700@...> wrote:

Hi Alice,

I'm told my meter review is unmatched on the internet.
http://seahorseCorral.org/ehs1.html#search

Stewart


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> I am looking to buy a meter for the RF, with 4G everywhere in London & most of UK soon.  What meter/s do you guys recommend for RF ?  Which ones  for  EF & magnetic field ? Preferably not expensive ones but can really do the job.
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P.S. about frequency-ranges :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_spectrum
i think EF is actually not a proper term.
better seems LF ( for the lower frequencies )and HF ( for the higher ones ) , with the boundary somewhere at 1 Mhz.
4G should be between 850 and 1900 Mhz
http://www.worldtimezone.com/gsm.html
the Cornets are fine for that.


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