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KTVU News Video Everyday Microwave Exposures

Loni Rosser
Spreading Awareness!  Loni








KTVU Channel 2 News aired the following segment on everyday sources of
microwave radiation in a typical modern home:
 
http://www.ktvu.com/video/29335616/index.html

It includes appearances by Dr. Magda Havas, biologist and EMF reseracher at Trent University in Canada
Elizabeth "Libby" Kelley of the Electromagnetic Safety Alliance, and the obligatory UC Berkeley
physicist, Dr. Richard Muller, dismissing any claims of biological or health impacts of microwave radiation.
 




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4G and cures for EHS

Bob Connolly
In Canada - they have just released 4G.  Also known as WiMax or LTE standing for Long Term Evolution - I measured it and its extremely powerful.

They added the antenna to the other antennas at the end of the street.  There is a pulse at 10 hertz that sounds just like WiFi and a high pitch sound like UTMS.  It's around 2.4 gigahertz. for the pulse. It's really just very high speed Wifi everywhere now.  EHS people are probably responding to the beacon signal that is chronic.

It is supposed to travel for 30 kilometres. It's targeted to high bandwidth internet uses like full screen full motion HD on ipads and smart tablets.   The new iPhone 4S that was just released DOES NOT SUPPORT IT. It's still 3G.

Everyone in the Tech industry is wondering what is going on.  They were all expecting the iPhone 5 with 4G technology so they could watch movies on their phone. Apple is making excuses - the phone still has the arial problem if you hold the phone....Steve Jobs has passed on....is he sending a message to the world?

The US space command is against this LTE 4G technology as it is also being delivered from a sate-light and they believe that it is screwing up GPS.  A high ranking general just said Obama was taking kick backs from the company for approving it. The government is in turmoil over it.

Health Canada just released a press release saying that cell phones should not be used by kids 18 and younger. It's getting a lot of traction with the media.  They are also saying that they are going to review the safety limits and release that into in 2012.

There are a lot of cities in Canada that are banning any new cell towers in residential areas and it's working - the government is caving in.  Health Canada is saying that it is possible to get cancer from cell phones and they agree with The World Health Organization.

Things are happening...

I visited the Paracelsus Clinic in Switzerland and they are curing people with EHS. It's not cheep....but it works.

Dr.Thomas Rau is electrosensitive himself - and he found a way to cure himself and his patients...

http://www.paracelsus.ch/paracelsus/paracelsuse/portrait-en/welcome


On 2011-10-02, at 3:21 PM, Loni wrote:

> Spreading Awareness!  Loni
>
> KTVU Channel 2 News aired the following segment on everyday sources of
> microwave radiation in a typical modern home:
>  
> http://www.ktvu.com/video/29335616/index.html
>
> It includes appearances by Dr. Magda Havas, biologist and EMF reseracher at Trent University in Canada
> Elizabeth "Libby" Kelley of the Electromagnetic Safety Alliance, and the obligatory UC Berkeley
> physicist, Dr. Richard Muller, dismissing any claims of biological or health impacts of microwave radiation.
>  
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>



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Re: 4G and cures for EHS

betty A
 Great post Robert. thanks.

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--- On Fri, 7/10/11, Robert Williams <[hidden email]> wrote:

> From: Robert Williams <[hidden email]>
> Subject: [eSens] 4G and cures for EHS
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Friday, 7 October, 2011, 2:48
> In Canada - they have just released
> 4G.  Also known as WiMax or LTE standing for Long Term
> Evolution - I measured it and its extremely powerful.
>
> They added the antenna to the other antennas at the end of
> the street.  There is a pulse at 10 hertz that sounds
> just like WiFi and a high pitch sound like UTMS.  It's
> around 2.4 gigahertz. for the pulse. It's really just very
> high speed Wifi everywhere now.  EHS people are
> probably responding to the beacon signal that is chronic.
>
> It is supposed to travel for 30 kilometres. It's targeted
> to high bandwidth internet uses like full screen full motion
> HD on ipads and smart tablets.   The new
> iPhone 4S that was just released DOES NOT SUPPORT IT. It's
> still 3G.
>
> Everyone in the Tech industry is wondering what is going
> on.  They were all expecting the iPhone 5 with 4G
> technology so they could watch movies on their phone. Apple
> is making excuses - the phone still has the arial problem if
> you hold the phone....Steve Jobs has passed on....is he
> sending a message to the world?
>
> The US space command is against this LTE 4G technology as
> it is also being delivered from a sate-light and they
> believe that it is screwing up GPS.  A high ranking
> general just said Obama was taking kick backs from the
> company for approving it. The government is in turmoil over
> it.
>
> Health Canada just released a press release saying that
> cell phones should not be used by kids 18 and younger. It's
> getting a lot of traction with the media.  They are
> also saying that they are going to review the safety limits
> and release that into in 2012.
>
> There are a lot of cities in Canada that are banning any
> new cell towers in residential areas and it's working - the
> government is caving in.  Health Canada is saying that
> it is possible to get cancer from cell phones and they agree
> with The World Health Organization.
>
> Things are happening...
>
> I visited the Paracelsus Clinic in Switzerland and they are
> curing people with EHS. It's not cheep....but it works.
>
> Dr.Thomas Rau is electrosensitive himself - and he found a
> way to cure himself and his patients...
>
> http://www.paracelsus.ch/paracelsus/paracelsuse/portrait-en/welcome
>
>
> On 2011-10-02, at 3:21 PM, Loni wrote:
>
> > Spreading Awareness!  Loni
> >
> > KTVU Channel 2 News aired the following segment on
> everyday sources of
> > microwave radiation in a typical modern home:
> > 
> > http://www.ktvu.com/video/29335616/index.html
> >
> > It includes appearances by Dr. Magda Havas, biologist
> and EMF reseracher at Trent University in Canada
> > Elizabeth "Libby" Kelley of the Electromagnetic Safety
> Alliance, and the obligatory UC Berkeley
> > physicist, Dr. Richard Muller, dismissing any claims
> of biological or health impacts of microwave radiation.
> > 
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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Re: Cures for EHS

Marc Martin
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> I visited the Paracelsus Clinic in Switzerland and they are curing people with EHS.
> It's not cheep....but it works.

And what methods are they using there?  I suspect there are practitioners all
around the world curing people with EHS, and that one needn't go
all the way to Switerland.

Marc
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Re: Cures for EHS

Healthgal
How  can  we find out what  they are   doing to cure ES??  I have never met
anyone who was cured, only better from  staying away from everything.
 
 
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Re: Cures for EHS

Marc Martin
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> How  can  we find out what  they are   doing to cure ES??  I have never met
> anyone who was cured, only better from  staying away from everything.

We've had people on this group who cured themselves of their ES --
they're no longer here, though... they lost interest in the subject....

Some people are reportedly cured by doing something as simple as
removing their "silver" dental fillings from their mouth.  Unfortunately,
it's not that easy for some of us...

Marc
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Methods at the paracelsus clinic

Bob Connolly
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You can do this yourself  - just like you can buy land and learn to build a house yourself which is what EHS people are doing.

Or you can hire someone to build one for you  - there is a cost difference.

Dr Rau heads up a clinic that has 56 on staff all specialists in EHS.

You can't bring a cell phone into the building. Their dentists and dental equipment are the best in the world.  All of the metal is taken out of your mouth including root canals - All of the teeth are replaced with Ziconium implants - you feel no pain becuase you are given Pulsating magnetic field therapy to grow the bone and it works as a pain killer at the same time.  Then you are given infusions and all of the metal is removed and you blood is replaced with good metals.  You are given a strict diet based upon your alkalinity and blood type.

You are tested with very complicated german swiss machinery and rife like devices are used to kill microorganisms, increase blood flow to brains hands and feet.  You are there for 2 weeks in a hotel that they own that has no wireless - and you follow a strict diet. You are prescribed homopathy, far infrared saunas and Schumann low frequency pulsating electromagnetic fields - yes - You are given EMF to counter microwave EMF = you live in the country with no towers.  

Its incredibly expensive - the people that I met were rich - real estate agents - CEO, shopping mall owners etc.

The point that I am trying to make is that there is a swiss clinic - a very famous one to the people in hollywood especially for dentistry - that specilizes in EHS patients that has an extremely good success rate.  I was there for 4 days with Magda havas and filmed the whole process for a film that we are making.

So there is a cure for this for all those that think it's hopeless - you can do it yourself if you have limited funds or pay $10,000 and up like rich people do.

I met people that had been there several times - they go right back to doing what they were doing and then get ill again....

So you get better but you can't go back to life as it was before. They do not create a bubble for you to live in....

 


On 2011-10-06, at 12:43 PM, Marc Martin wrote:

> > I visited the Paracelsus Clinic in Switzerland and they are curing people with EHS.
> > It's not cheep....but it works.
>
> And what methods are they using there? I suspect there are practitioners all
> around the world curing people with EHS, and that one needn't go
> all the way to Switerland.
>
> Marc
>



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Re: Methods at the paracelsus clinic

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> So there is a cure for this for all those that think it's hopeless - you can do it yourself if you have
> limited funds or pay $10,000 and up like rich people do.

Thanks -- those methods do sound similar to the methods of the do-it-yourselvers...

> I met people that had been there several times - they go right back to doing what they were
> doing and then get ill again....

Yes, well I think they're fooling themselves if they think they can eradicate all of the heavy metals from your body in only two weeks.  Some of that stuff in your bones and brain could takes years to get rid of...

Marc
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Re: Methods at the paracelsus clinic

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There are other ways of accomplish that, and not expensive.

But for that one must be willing to read.
And that is not the case with a lot of EHS.

If you do it right, you don't need a bubble.

Greetings,
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  ----- Original Message -----
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  To: [hidden email]
  Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 8:46 PM
  Subject: [eSens] Methods at the paracelsus clinic


  You can do this yourself  - just like you can buy land and learn to build a house yourself which is what EHS people are doing.

  Or you can hire someone to build one for you  - there is a cost difference.

  Dr Rau heads up a clinic that has 56 on staff all specialists in EHS.

  You can't bring a cell phone into the building. Their dentists and dental equipment are the best in the world.  All of the metal is taken out of your mouth including root canals - All of the teeth are replaced with Ziconium implants - you feel no pain becuase you are given Pulsating magnetic field therapy to grow the bone and it works as a pain killer at the same time.  Then you are given infusions and all of the metal is removed and you blood is replaced with good metals.  You are given a strict diet based upon your alkalinity and blood type.

  You are tested with very complicated german swiss machinery and rife like devices are used to kill microorganisms, increase blood flow to brains hands and feet.  You are there for 2 weeks in a hotel that they own that has no wireless - and you follow a strict diet. You are prescribed homopathy, far infrared saunas and Schumann low frequency pulsating electromagnetic fields - yes - You are given EMF to counter microwave EMF = you live in the country with no towers.  

  Its incredibly expensive - the people that I met were rich - real estate agents - CEO, shopping mall owners etc.

  The point that I am trying to make is that there is a swiss clinic - a very famous one to the people in hollywood especially for dentistry - that specilizes in EHS patients that has an extremely good success rate.  I was there for 4 days with Magda havas and filmed the whole process for a film that we are making.

  So there is a cure for this for all those that think it's hopeless - you can do it yourself if you have limited funds or pay $10,000 and up like rich people do.

  I met people that had been there several times - they go right back to doing what they were doing and then get ill again....

  So you get better but you can't go back to life as it was before. They do not create a bubble for you to live in....

   


  On 2011-10-06, at 12:43 PM, Marc Martin wrote:

  > > I visited the Paracelsus Clinic in Switzerland and they are curing people with EHS.
  > > It's not cheep....but it works.
  >
  > And what methods are they using there? I suspect there are practitioners all
  > around the world curing people with EHS, and that one needn't go
  > all the way to Switerland.
  >
  > Marc
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Re: Methods at the paracelsus clinic

Bob Connolly
Agreed - There are many inexpensive ways to do this if you have the knowledge and the time.

There are thousands of busy executives and hollywood movie stars that become EHS - go to switzerland and then return and are back to work. They don't take the time to read these message boards. They just pay professionals that do this for a living and they can afford it. Lucky that we have doctors that realize this is a real illness and have brought 50 people together in one place to help.

But the point of this if there are people on this board that have the money there is a clinic in switzerland with MDs that specializes in a treatment and protocol that you still follow when you are done the treatment.  It's 2 weeks of intense therapy, colonics, infusions, PEMF, dental work, diet all supervised 3 times a day - and its a great place to relax for a vacation. In the swiss countryside.





On 2011-10-06, at 3:15 PM, charles wrote:

> There are other ways of accomplish that, and not expensive.
>
> But for that one must be willing to read.
> And that is not the case with a lot of EHS.
>
> If you do it right, you don't need a bubble.
>
> Greetings,
> Charles Claessens
> member Verband Baubiologie
> www.milieuziektes.nl
> www.milieuziektes.be
> www.hetbitje.nl
> checked by Norton
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Robert Williams
> To: [hidden email]
> Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 8:46 PM
> Subject: [eSens] Methods at the paracelsus clinic
>
> You can do this yourself - just like you can buy land and learn to build a house yourself which is what EHS people are doing.
>
> Or you can hire someone to build one for you - there is a cost difference.
>
> Dr Rau heads up a clinic that has 56 on staff all specialists in EHS.
>
> You can't bring a cell phone into the building. Their dentists and dental equipment are the best in the world. All of the metal is taken out of your mouth including root canals - All of the teeth are replaced with Ziconium implants - you feel no pain becuase you are given Pulsating magnetic field therapy to grow the bone and it works as a pain killer at the same time. Then you are given infusions and all of the metal is removed and you blood is replaced with good metals. You are given a strict diet based upon your alkalinity and blood type.
>
> You are tested with very complicated german swiss machinery and rife like devices are used to kill microorganisms, increase blood flow to brains hands and feet. You are there for 2 weeks in a hotel that they own that has no wireless - and you follow a strict diet. You are prescribed homopathy, far infrared saunas and Schumann low frequency pulsating electromagnetic fields - yes - You are given EMF to counter microwave EMF = you live in the country with no towers.
>
> Its incredibly expensive - the people that I met were rich - real estate agents - CEO, shopping mall owners etc.
>
> The point that I am trying to make is that there is a swiss clinic - a very famous one to the people in hollywood especially for dentistry - that specilizes in EHS patients that has an extremely good success rate. I was there for 4 days with Magda havas and filmed the whole process for a film that we are making.
>
> So there is a cure for this for all those that think it's hopeless - you can do it yourself if you have limited funds or pay $10,000 and up like rich people do.
>
> I met people that had been there several times - they go right back to doing what they were doing and then get ill again....
>
> So you get better but you can't go back to life as it was before. They do not create a bubble for you to live in....
>
> On 2011-10-06, at 12:43 PM, Marc Martin wrote:
>
> > > I visited the Paracelsus Clinic in Switzerland and they are curing people with EHS.
> > > It's not cheep....but it works.
> >
> > And what methods are they using there? I suspect there are practitioners all
> > around the world curing people with EHS, and that one needn't go
> > all the way to Switerland.
> >
> > Marc
> >
>
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Re: Methods at the paracelsus clinic

Marc Martin
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> But the point of this if there are people on this board that have the money there is a clinic in
> switzerland with MDs that specializes in a treatment and protocol that you still follow when
> you are done the treatment.  It's 2 weeks of intense therapy, colonics, infusions, PEMF,
> dental work, diet all supervised 3 times a day - and its a great place to relax for a vacation.
> In the swiss countryside.

And besides, some of us do-it-yourselvers have ended up paying more than $10,000 trying out all sorts of (mostly ineffective) treatments over the years...

Marc
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Re: Cures for EHS

PUK
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all so anecdotal I am afraid - puk
 
 
In a message dated 06/10/2011 18:30:26 GMT Daylight Time,  
[hidden email] writes:

 
How can we find out what they are doing to cure ES?? I have never met  
> anyone who was cured, only better from staying away from  everything.

We've had people on this group who cured themselves of  their ES --
they're no longer here, though... they lost interest in the  subject....

Some people are reportedly cured by doing something as  simple as
removing their "silver" dental fillings from their mouth.  Unfortunately,
it's not that easy for some of  us...

Marc





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PUK
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cure is a subjective state, look at steve jobbs,it was reported he was  
cured of pancreatic cancer some years ago !
 
puk
 
 
In a message dated 06/10/2011 18:30:26 GMT Daylight Time,  
[hidden email] writes:

 
How can we find out what they are doing to cure ES?? I have never met  
> anyone who was cured, only better from staying away from  everything.

We've had people on this group who cured themselves of  their ES --
they're no longer here, though... they lost interest in the  subject....

Some people are reportedly cured by doing something as  simple as
removing their "silver" dental fillings from their mouth.  Unfortunately,
it's not that easy for some of  us...

Marc





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Re: Cures for EHS

charles-4
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Nothing anecdotal.

I have proven recovery with measuring medical markers every week.

When yoy had taken the trouble of reading, you could have seen that.

I have proven, that that a DECT raises the fat content of the liver among others, while the Claesmog has restored that, within 30 minutes.

But you refused to find that out yourself.

One of my test persons reported me tonight, that his sister who suffers from fibromyalgia feels 60% better after two weeks.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
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  all so anecdotal I am afraid - puk
   
   
  In a message dated 06/10/2011 18:30:26 GMT Daylight Time,  
  [hidden email] writes:

   
  How can we find out what they are doing to cure ES?? I have never met  
  > anyone who was cured, only better from staying away from  everything.

  We've had people on this group who cured themselves of  their ES --
  they're no longer here, though... they lost interest in the  subject....

  Some people are reportedly cured by doing something as  simple as
  removing their "silver" dental fillings from their mouth.  Unfortunately,
  it's not that easy for some of  us...

  Marc





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PUK
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ok where is the god damn evidence for this ! I recently cured a young man  
of his fear of the dark, there was nothing wrong with him he was simply
scared  of the dark. Forgive me for this but over the 12 yrs that I have
suffered the  vagaries of being sensitive to emr, I have come across so many people
that seem  high on the affliction, they make a lot of noise and then you
dont here of them  for dust - perhaps they move on to the next attention
grabbing gravy train - I  am sorry but I am cynical.
 
puk
 
 
In a message dated 06/10/2011 17:44:00 GMT Daylight Time,  
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I  visited the Paracelsus Clinic in Switzerland and they are curing people
with  EHS.
> It's not cheep....but it works.  




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Re: Claesmog

Marc Martin
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> I have proven, that that a DECT raises the fat content of the liver among others,
> while the Claesmog has restored that, within 30 minutes.

I see that you are testing your Claesmog -- will this be sold commercially
at some point?

Marc
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Re: Methods at the paracelsus clinic

Marc Martin
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> I was there for 4 days with Magda havas and filmed the whole process for a film that we are making.

Hopefully you'll let us all know when this film is completed and reading for viewing, buying, etc.

Marc
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Re: Claesmog

charles-4
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Hello Marc,

yes.

It is now tested in the Netherlands, Belgium, Germany, Danmark and the UK.

So far only positive results.

It forms point 25 of my 25 points plan.

So, if persons use it, without earlier sufficiant detox, a lot of toxins get loose, and the body has trouble with getting rid of them.
I have a person who had diarrhoea for three days, but now feels fine.
Because of phone masts across the street, she could be in her garden for only a few minutes.
Now she is working in her garden for many hours and feels very energetic.
Next week she goes on holidays.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
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  > I have proven, that that a DECT raises the fat content of the liver among others,
  > while the Claesmog has restored that, within 30 minutes.

  I see that you are testing your Claesmog -- will this be sold commercially
  at some point?

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Re: Cures for EHS

Elysia Drew
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Hey, Charles. I'm wondering what you've done for recovery. Sthg about Claesmog? Could you give more specific instructions/suggestions? It's hard for me to keep up w/ posts b/c of the electrosensitivity itself,  &  also I joined very recently. I'd love to hear what you did for recovery, & if you've already described it in depth in other posts, could you please refer me to those specific posts, if possible? 
Thanks very much :)-E. Drew
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From: charles <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Cures for EHS
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, October 6, 2011, 5:32 PM
















 



 


   
     
     
      Nothing anecdotal.



I have proven recovery with measuring medical markers every week.



When yoy had taken the trouble of reading, you could have seen that.



I have proven, that that a DECT raises the fat content of the liver among others, while the Claesmog has restored that, within 30 minutes.



But you refused to find that out yourself.



One of my test persons reported me tonight, that his sister who suffers from fibromyalgia feels 60% better after two weeks.



Greetings,

Charles Claessens

member Verband Baubiologie

www.milieuziektes.nl

www.milieuziektes.be

www.hetbitje.nl

checked by Norton



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  Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 11:20 PM

  Subject: Re: [eSens] Cures for EHS



all so anecdotal I am afraid - puk

   

   

  In a message dated 06/10/2011 18:30:26 GMT Daylight Time,  

  [hidden email] writes:



How can we find out what they are doing to cure ES?? I have never met  

  > anyone who was cured, only better from staying away from  everything.



We've had people on this group who cured themselves of  their ES --

  they're no longer here, though... they lost interest in the  subject....



Some people are reportedly cured by doing something as  simple as

  removing their "silver" dental fillings from their mouth.  Unfortunately,

  it's not that easy for some of  us...



Marc



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Re: Cures for EHS

Marc Martin
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> Hey, Charles. I'm wondering what you've done for recovery.

He's got a web page listing the 25 items he mentioned:

  http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina401.html

Of the people who have reported improvement / cures, the
steps they took usually addressed the same sorts of
issues.

Marc
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