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Thanks Robert. The 4G LTE is literally taking my life. I cannot find a place to sleep in my van where I don't burn up. It's horrible. I'm torn away from my family and very weak and sick. Loni

--- On Thu, 10/6/11, Robert Williams <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Robert Williams <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] 4G and cures for EHS
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, October 6, 2011, 8:48 AM


In Canada - they have just released 4G.  Also known as WiMax or LTE standing for Long Term Evolution - I measured it and its extremely powerful.

They added the antenna to the other antennas at the end of the street.  There is a pulse at 10 hertz that sounds just like WiFi and a high pitch sound like UTMS.  It's around 2.4 gigahertz. for the pulse. It's really just very high speed Wifi everywhere now.  EHS people are probably responding to the beacon signal that is chronic.

It is supposed to travel for 30 kilometres. It's targeted to high bandwidth internet uses like full screen full motion HD on ipads and smart tablets.   The new iPhone 4S that was just released DOES NOT SUPPORT IT. It's still 3G.

Everyone in the Tech industry is wondering what is going on.  They were all expecting the iPhone 5 with 4G technology so they could watch movies on their phone. Apple is making excuses - the phone still has the arial problem if you hold the phone....Steve Jobs has passed on....is he sending a message to the world?

The US space command is against this LTE 4G technology as it is also being delivered from a sate-light and they believe that it is screwing up GPS.  A high ranking general just said Obama was taking kick backs from the company for approving it. The government is in turmoil over it.

Health Canada just released a press release saying that cell phones should not be used by kids 18 and younger. It's getting a lot of traction with the media.  They are also saying that they are going to review the safety limits and release that into in 2012.

There are a lot of cities in Canada that are banning any new cell towers in residential areas and it's working - the government is caving in.  Health Canada is saying that it is possible to get cancer from cell phones and they agree with The World Health Organization.

Things are happening...

I visited the Paracelsus Clinic in Switzerland and they are curing people with EHS. It's not cheep....but it works.

Dr.Thomas Rau is electrosensitive himself - and he found a way to cure himself and his patients...

http://www.paracelsus.ch/paracelsus/paracelsuse/portrait-en/welcome


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Someone in Snowflake AZ at the MCS EHS community there told me that antconvultion drugs have helped her with skin burning! Has anyone got any experience or knowledge of this?  Loni

--- On Thu, 10/6/11, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Cures for EHS
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, October 6, 2011, 9:43 AM



 



> I visited the Paracelsus Clinic in Switzerland and they are curing people with EHS.
> It's not cheep....but it works.

And what methods are they using there? I suspect there are practitioners all
around the world curing people with EHS, and that one needn't go
all the way to Switerland.

Marc







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> Thanks Robert. The 4G LTE is literally taking my life. I cannot find a place to
> sleep in my van where I don't burn up. It's horrible. I'm torn away from my
> family and very weak and sick. Loni

Loni, I hate to keep sounding like your husband, but when I was just
researching 4G, I could not find any evidence that 4G LTE is even
available in your home town.  

If you cannot find a place to sleep ANYWHERE without relief, I have
to wonder if you are reacting to a satellite or something?  I mean,
cellphone coverage is not everywhere, and especially 4G cellphone
seems pretty limited at the moment.

Marc

I asked Verizon and he said my area was in the heart of it !  Loni

--- On Tue, 10/11/11, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] 4G and cures for EHS
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, October 11, 2011, 12:49 PM



 



> Thanks Robert. The 4G LTE is literally taking my life. I cannot find a place to
> sleep in my van where I don't burn up. It's horrible. I'm torn away from my
> family and very weak and sick. Loni

Loni, I hate to keep sounding like your husband, but when I was just
researching 4G, I could not find any evidence that 4G LTE is even
available in your home town.

If you cannot find a place to sleep ANYWHERE without relief, I have
to wonder if you are reacting to a satellite or something? I mean,
cellphone coverage is not everywhere, and especially 4G cellphone
seems pretty limited at the moment.

Marc







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Also I go to Payson about one and half hour away and my symptoms disapear. They do not have it there yet. So I am sure it is not satellite and it is 4G LTE. Plus I get closer to ther cell antennas and the symptoms increase. I am 100% positive. Loni

--- On Tue, 10/11/11, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] 4G and cures for EHS
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, October 11, 2011, 12:49 PM



 



> Thanks Robert. The 4G LTE is literally taking my life. I cannot find a place to
> sleep in my van where I don't burn up. It's horrible. I'm torn away from my
> family and very weak and sick. Loni

Loni, I hate to keep sounding like your husband, but when I was just
researching 4G, I could not find any evidence that 4G LTE is even
available in your home town.

If you cannot find a place to sleep ANYWHERE without relief, I have
to wonder if you are reacting to a satellite or something? I mean,
cellphone coverage is not everywhere, and especially 4G cellphone
seems pretty limited at the moment.

Marc







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Loni,

I'm so sorry. If you consider a medicine. Please have a thorough physical w bloodwork to make sure you don't have a true physical cause other than ES.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peripheral_neuropathyI  This mentions diabetas, liver & more.

I'm seeing some symptoms I need to know about.

My doc. talked about
gabapenten that's used to heal damaged nerves from shingles You might need it compounded no matter what they consider. .



Praying for you.

Kathy



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Subject: Re: [eSens] Cures for EHS

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> I visited the Paracelsus Clinic in Switzerland and they are curing people with EHS.

> It's not cheep....but it works.



And what methods are they using there? I suspect there are practitioners all

around the world curing people with EHS, and that one needn't go

all the way to Switerland.



Marc



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Loni,
I would use extreme caution with ANY prescription medicines. Most of them are very high in FLUORIDE.
Fluoride shuts down the thyroid.
Lizzie
 



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Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 12:46:53 -0700
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Someone in Snowflake AZ at the MCS EHS community there told me that antconvultion drugs have helped her with skin burning! Has anyone got any experience or knowledge of this?  Loni

--- On Thu, 10/6/11, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Cures for EHS
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, October 6, 2011, 9:43 AM

 

> I visited the Paracelsus Clinic in Switzerland and they are curing people with EHS.
> It's not cheep....but it works.

And what methods are they using there? I suspect there are practitioners all
around the world curing people with EHS, and that one needn't go
all the way to Switerland.

Marc

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there are various anti-depressant and epileptic drugs that can dampen down  
nerve activity, but hey if you want to go down that route then so be it, I
would  rather have the burning skin that lets me know that I should leave
the area -  you will still have all the other symptoms minus a few stress
signals, with the  drugs, plus the side effects from the drugs and addictive
issues you will just  be shutting down your bodies early warning system ie
tingling, itching etc..  basically a boiled frog like all the rest.
 
puk
 
 
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Loni,
I would use extreme caution with ANY prescription medicines.  Most of them
are very high in FLUORIDE.
Fluoride shuts down the thyroid.  
Lizzie


To: _eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email])
From: _loni326@yahoo.com_ (mailto:[hidden email])
Date: Tue, 11 Oct  2011 12:46:53 -0700
Subject: Re: [eSens] Cures for EHS

Someone in  Snowflake AZ at the MCS EHS community there told me that
antconvultion drugs  have helped her with skin burning! Has anyone got any
experience or knowledge  of this? Loni

--- On Thu, 10/6/11, Marc Martin <_marc@ufoseries.com_
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From: Marc Martin <_marc@ufoseries.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) >
Subject: Re:  [eSens] Cures for EHS
To: _eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email])
Date:  Thursday, October 6, 2011, 9:43 AM

> I visited the Paracelsus Clinic  in Switzerland and they are curing
people with EHS.
> It's not  cheep....but it works.

And what methods are they using there? I  suspect there are practitioners
all
around the world curing people with  EHS, and that one needn't go
all the way to  Switerland.

Marc

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Move to Greenbank west virginia and learn to farm.  It's really paradise and spent my vacation there in my airstream.  It will become just like Vegas did - It started with a few prostitutes and lured the people away because of the laws.  When everyone gets sick it's going to become the place to escape.  Right now it's turning into a skiing vacation destination.

When rich corporate builders get sick from their phones, and they also learn that cell towers are a problem - they are going to see that there is gold in them there hills for people that want to retire in a place where the is no electrosmog.  Land is real cheep there right now - so it's not going to take too much time, maybe 5 years until the general public learns that cell towers are just like cell phones.

After the real estate market collapses around cell towers this is all going to be so out in the open.  Greenbank is being discovered by the media now - it just takes time for people to build communities - communes - like the quakers did.  PS - the place is full of quakers.  So it's not impossible to just go there and become part of their lifestyle.

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Can you rent homes there? Loni

--- On Wed, 10/12/11, Robert Williams <[hidden email]> wrote:


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Subject: Re: [eSens] 4G and cures for EHS
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, October 12, 2011, 9:27 AM


Move to Greenbank west virginia and learn to farm.  It's really paradise and spent my vacation there in my airstream.  It will become just like Vegas did - It started with a few prostitutes and lured the people away because of the laws.  When everyone gets sick it's going to become the place to escape.  Right now it's turning into a skiing vacation destination.

When rich corporate builders get sick from their phones, and they also learn that cell towers are a problem - they are going to see that there is gold in them there hills for people that want to retire in a place where the is no electrosmog.  Land is real cheep there right now - so it's not going to take too much time, maybe 5 years until the general public learns that cell towers are just like cell phones.

After the real estate market collapses around cell towers this is all going to be so out in the open.  Greenbank is being discovered by the media now - it just takes time for people to build communities - communes - like the quakers did.  PS - the place is full of quakers.  So it's not impossible to just go there and become part of their lifestyle.

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Lots of homes for sale and rent - and land too - homes are from 50,000 to 2 million...The radio telescope is a very popular tourist destination and because of it there are lots of scientists that live there during their rental time of the radio telescope - they move their whole family there for many months at a time.

Diane Schou is  EHS and she wants to start up a retreat.  She was just featured in a TV program and the BBC  and many magazines are writing about her  - this place is becoming very popular! - this is your go to person...

Here is the link to the video on the Magda Havas Youtube website.

http://youtu.be/N8SelMsICrE

What this place needs is some publicity via a website. This an epidemiologists dream - a place for controls in studies about cell phones - there have never been a cell phone there - or radio station for that matter.  But they do have great technology - fibre optics, cable TV, satlelight etc.  It's just all wired.  A perfect place to bace a clinic for EHS people - instead of Switzerland's Paracelsus clinic - people could go to a spa in greenbank to recover and get therapy.  When people want to go camping - this place with be paradise.

There are going to be a lot more Steve Jobs executive types figuring out what is going on with them and when they decide to invest their money in this vacation paradise for the rich and famous (burnouts) it's going to become a Sedona - but instead of feeling the vortex - they will only be  Schumann resonance.

Diane Schou (skow)
PO Box 99
Green Bank, WV 24944-0099  U.S.A.
(304) 456-4469
fax: (304) 932-0022
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> Someone in Snowflake AZ at the MCS EHS community there told me that
> antconvultion drugs have helped her with skin burning!

Just curious, do you have "skin burning" (entire body), or just "face
burning"?  

I can only recall ever having "face burning", and found several things
to relieve it -- EMF protection devices, antioxidants, essential fatty
acids, skin lotion, clay facial masques, etc.

Marc

Oh wow, thanks so much Robert. This is a lot of postive information. I only heard some negative things about it so I was discouraged and hopeless.
 
Great info; Really!  I am so grateful!  I want to move there now. It's hard to move so far away from family when you are by yourself and so sick.
 
I wonder how long it would take to drive from Arizona to West Virginia!
 
Loni

--- On Wed, 10/12/11, Robert Williams <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Robert Williams <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] 4G and cures for EHS
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, October 12, 2011, 10:57 AM


Lots of homes for sale and rent - and land too - homes are from 50,000 to 2 million...The radio telescope is a very popular tourist destination and because of it there are lots of scientists that live there during their rental time of the radio telescope - they move their whole family there for many months at a time.

Diane Schou is  EHS and she wants to start up a retreat.  She was just featured in a TV program and the BBC  and many magazines are writing about her  - this place is becoming very popular! - this is your go to person...

Here is the link to the video on the Magda Havas Youtube website.

http://youtu.be/N8SelMsICrE

What this place needs is some publicity via a website. This an epidemiologists dream - a place for controls in studies about cell phones - there have never been a cell phone there - or radio station for that matter.  But they do have great technology - fibre optics, cable TV, satlelight etc.  It's just all wired.  A perfect place to bace a clinic for EHS people - instead of Switzerland's Paracelsus clinic - people could go to a spa in greenbank to recover and get therapy.  When people want to go camping - this place with be paradise.

There are going to be a lot more Steve Jobs executive types figuring out what is going on with them and when they decide to invest their money in this vacation paradise for the rich and famous (burnouts) it's going to become a Sedona - but instead of feeling the vortex - they will only be  Schumann resonance.

Diane Schou (skow)
PO Box 99
Green Bank, WV 24944-0099  U.S.A.
(304) 456-4469
fax: (304) 932-0022
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Primarily face but whole body. It builds up when I am sleeping and I just feel like i was plugged in to a socket. I'm going to try grounding myself and see if that might help.
 
I also thought about sleeping on the ground so that you are grounded. I'd have a vinyl/foam thin cot mattress to sleep on. I don't know if that would inhibit the grounding or not.
 
Then I thought about buying the grounding kit from I think Earth Calm? And then just sleeping in the van with the grounding sheet.
 
Loni

--- On Wed, 10/12/11, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Cures for EHS
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, October 12, 2011, 11:26 AM



 



> Someone in Snowflake AZ at the MCS EHS community there told me that
> antconvultion drugs have helped her with skin burning!

Just curious, do you have "skin burning" (entire body), or just "face
burning"?

I can only recall ever having "face burning", and found several things
to relieve it -- EMF protection devices, antioxidants, essential fatty
acids, skin lotion, clay facial masques, etc.

Marc







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> Primarily face but whole body. It builds up when I am sleeping and I
> just feel like i was plugged in to a socket. I'm going to try grounding
> myself and see if that might help.

Just remember that some people who've tried those grounding
sheets got worse, not better.  Although it's possible that all
of those people were using the ground plug in a power outlet,
and not actual dirt/ground.

Marc

Loni,

I know what you are talking about.  I sustained high exposure over a long period of time (10 years) from a hidden cell tower a block away beaming at me through my windows. 

After my resistance totally broke down, I became so sensitized to the radiation that I could feel the waves hitting my skin, and it hurt so bad!!!  It went beyond pinching and burning, to rashes on my arms, legs, feet, face, behind the ears, chest, abdomen.  And my skin would turn beat red.  Then as time went on, it started to feel like I was getting bruised and beaten. 

When I get exposed to stong waves, I actually feel like I am beaing beaten up it hurts so bad. 

I moved away from the direct beam but am still being exposed in my apt and everywhere I go in the city.  I am still trying to heal. But, the body has a memory.  As soon as I am in an area where the radiation is allowed to build up in my body, which can happen in a matter of minutes, depending on how strong the radiation is:  it starts with pinching, then burning, then the feel of bruising.  I don't actually see bruises on my skin, it just feels like I have been bruised and I hurt all over and feel sore, like I have been beaten up.  

I feel like filing ASSAULT charges against the cell phone companies for what they are doing to me and destroying my life.  I am outraged that I did not know about a hidden cell tower nearby.  That is criminal.

And I see it happening all over the city where a high percentage of the new apartment buildings being built will have cell towers on the roof, hidden behind what is made to look like an elevator shaft.  I feel so sorry for the people living in those buildings who are unaware of what they are being subjected to.  I feel sorry for myself for having to live like a wireless refugee.

As far as protective devices and supplements, my physical assault has gone far beyond that arena.  In order for things like that to work, I need some serious healing therapy.

C. Johnson
Superdrove




--- On Wed, 10/12/11, Loni <[hidden email]> wrote:

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Subject: Re: [eSens] Cures for EHS
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, October 12, 2011, 6:49 PM








 



 


   
     
     
      Primarily face but whole body. It builds up when I am sleeping and I just feel like i was plugged in to a socket. I'm going to try grounding myself and see if that might help.

 

I also thought about sleeping on the ground so that you are grounded. I'd have a vinyl/foam thin cot mattress to sleep on. I don't know if that would inhibit the grounding or not.

 

Then I thought about buying the grounding kit from I think Earth Calm? And then just sleeping in the van with the grounding sheet.

 

Loni



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From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>

Subject: Re: [eSens] Cures for EHS

To: [hidden email]

Date: Wednesday, October 12, 2011, 11:26 AM



 



> Someone in Snowflake AZ at the MCS EHS community there told me that

> antconvultion drugs have helped her with skin burning!



Just curious, do you have "skin burning" (entire body), or just "face

burning"?



I can only recall ever having "face burning", and found several things

to relieve it -- EMF protection devices, antioxidants, essential fatty

acids, skin lotion, clay facial masques, etc.



Marc


 

 
 
 



     




     

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when you use the word healing I assume that you are looking to be rid of ES
 (DONT LIKE THE WORD CURE), in my experience of of 10-13yrs ES, I have
dropped  the healing bit in turn for sheilding, protection, aspirations for
general  health improvement, not having a job that tops me up all the time and
so on, I  have found that it does not take much to undo all the good work, so
its snakes  and ladders - for example my neighbour has just kitted out his
back yard with  compact flourescent floodlights, twice now I have felt
stinging around my  eyes,cheeks and scalp, on both ocassions I have asked if
anyone in the house has  a mobile on etc but nothing, then going to the back
door I see the lights have  been triggered on, I cant belive that they would
cause such a reaction from 6-7m  away but its looking likely.  I have just
secured a job as a building  surveyor (2 month contract) after 2 yrs unemployed
so its time to fry again ! I  should be jubilant but they do not know my ES
secret, so I will being greeting  my old friend - fatigue and all the other
Es symptoms on mass very soon - lets  hope I can see it through and get
some money in.  One thing is for sure the  issue of stress is integral in ES,
if you are stressed then you will have  cortisol, adrenalin in your system
and this will undoutedly fuel the  metabolic reations making them worse or
rather catylising the effects.
 
puk
 
 
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As far  as protective devices and supplements, my physical assault has gone
far beyond  that arena.  In order for things like that to work, I need some
serious  healing therapy.




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lets hope that it does not become a victim of its own sucess
 
 
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Move  to Greenbank west virginia and learn to farm.  It's really paradise
and  spent my vacation there in my airstream.  It will become just like Vegas
 did - It started with a few prostitutes and lured the people away because
of  the laws.  When everyone gets sick it's going to become the place to  
escape.  Right now it's turning into a skiing vacation  destination.




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sattelites are an increasing menace I think ! - puk
 
 
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If you  cannot find a place to sleep ANYWHERE without relief, I have
to wonder if  you are reacting to a satellite or something? I mean,
cellphone coverage is  not everywhere, and especially 4G cellphone
seems pretty limited at the  moment.

Marc




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Last month on a clear evening I lay in the park countting all the satellites that passed overhead in a half hour.  It was about 30 that I could see with the naked eye.  I know there were three times as many out there I could not see. 

The number of satellites over head is more than anyone would realize.  100's.

I  have 5 Dish Network disks on my apartment buiilding, 2 of which are within 20 feet of me.

C. Johnson
Superdrove



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