Many thanks for your sound advice ! It is essentially what I try to do as
you sugest, will try the supplement top ups. My 1st day went well as I was doing surveys outside, only dire moment was when my boss used his htc phone near me, but had no problems then I was minding my own business with my back to the contractor man, and began to develop an itchy sore head and found myself realising that I was being zapped after say 30 secs, turned and there was the contractor using his mobile 4feet from me !! my observations here are that sometimes the newer smart phones dont give me a reaction whereas the older thin slider types do ? a whole host of paramenters and anomolies I guess. Any way thanks for the advice. PS just had negs of an MRI on my neck, looking at them (obviously I am no expert) looks like c5-c6 vertebrea are slightly impinging on spinal cord, maybe that's why I get pain and mild wozzy/dizzy spells - the MRI only shows it lying down not in real time/function - wait to see what pain expert says. puk In a message dated 13/10/2011 21:11:25 GMT Daylight Time, [hidden email] writes: Hi Paul, I don't like the word cure either, tho I have personally seen a lot of healing and know it is doable. So looking for healing is a good thing; looking for a cure might be unattainable. You are right, it doesn't take a lot to overturn advances in healing, so it is very important to also use avoidance while using techniques to heal. This is particularly true in the early stages of healing. I hope your temporary work doesn't do you in. I pray it will be easier on you than you think. I find for myself, that emotional stress has sometimes done me in faster than the actual ES stress, so I have adopted coping mechanisms to try to deal with my emotions: I try to never judge an ES situation before hand. I intend and hope it goes well and easily for me and try to leave any other thoughts or decisions on what might happen behind. I try to keep myself distracted and focused elsewhere. When I didn't do this, or when I got to a situation and asked myself if ES was bothering me, it always seemed to. However, I learned I don't notice it as much when I am distracted and don't allow myself to focus on it. Now, this is a coping mechanism, it is not designed to be a health strategy; it is still healthier not to be in areas of bad emfs. You will still get ES stress; what you will not get doing this is emotional stress on top of the ES stress. ;) Another thing you can do is to double up on helpful nutrients which you know emfs deplete. I also carry some of these nutrients with me and take them thru-out the day. [For me, personally, calcium and pantethine (B5) are really essential. Vit C and electrolyte drops (including trace minerals) I also often carry with me.] I hope this job is a true blessing; good luck, Paul, Diane ________________________________ From: "_paulpjc@aol.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) " <_paulpjc@aol.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) > To: _eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 5:53 AM Subject: Re: [eSens] Cures for EHS when you use the word healing I assume that you are looking to be rid of ES (DONT LIKE THE WORD CURE), in my experience of of 10-13yrs ES, I have dropped the healing bit in turn for sheilding, protection, aspirations for general health improvement, not having a job that tops me up all the time and so on, I have found that it does not take much to undo all the good work, so its snakes and ladders - for example my neighbour has just kitted out his back yard with compact flourescent floodlights, twice now I have felt stinging around my eyes,cheeks and scalp, on both ocassions I have asked if anyone in the house has a mobile on etc but nothing, then going to the back door I see the lights have been triggered on, I cant belive that they would cause such a reaction from 6-7m away but its looking likely. I have just secured a job as a building surveyor (2 month contract) after 2 yrs unemployed so its time to fry again ! I should be jubilant but they do not know my ES secret, so I will being greeting my old friend - fatigue and all the other Es symptoms on mass very soon - lets hope I can see it through and get some money in. One thing is for sure the issue of stress is integral in ES, if you are stressed then you will have cortisol, adrenalin in your system and this will undoutedly fuel the metabolic reations making them worse or rather catylising the effects. puk In a message dated 13/10/2011 07:12:36 GMT Daylight Time, _superdrove@yahoo.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) writes: As far as protective devices and supplements, my physical assault has gone far beyond that arena. In order for things like that to work, I need some serious healing therapy. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Diane, i do poorly with EPO too. hav heard it increases estrogen and I think that's why :)
-----Original Message----- From: Evie <[hidden email]> To: eSens <[hidden email]> Sent: Fri, Oct 14, 2011 4:53 pm Subject: Re: [eSens] Cures for EHS <my health goes downhill with too much saturated fats... I do try to consume some, though...> Sorry to hear, Marc. My body hasn't found a sat fat it doesn't love. ;) I remember you saying you don't tolerate coconut oil. Have you ever tried black currant oil? My body likes that one, too, but not evening primrose oil. And they are both omega 6s. I never could figure that out. EPoil causes me great stress. But you would think all omega 6s would act the same. If I remember correctly, you like EP oil, right? There must be a message in there somewhere. ;) How does EP oil work as a toxin magnet for you? Diane ________________________________ From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 4:34 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] Cures for EHS > Have you tried saturated fats, Marc? Yeah, Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Diane,
You should not be so quick to dismiss EP. Evening Primrose Oil is one of the major oils used for Multiple Sclerosis because it heals nerves and sheaths. It is from a flower. Maybe you are reacting to some kind of toxin that the flower produces. The article below says it is also used for people who have had radiation damage. http://www.hhnews.com/epo.htm "Evening Primrose Oil contains an anti-oxidant that counter acts the formation of free radicals.. It is also being studied for its pain reduction in association with arthritis, controlling complications of diabetes, controlling liver and kidney damage due to alcohol, depression, for Multiple sclerosis, skin/hair/nail repair, and controlling sever symptoms of PMS. Evening Primrose Oil is the richest source of Gamma-Linolenic acid. It contains about 72% Linoleic acid and 9 percent GLA. Since it contains the essential GLA, evening primrose oil is highly valuable to those who cannot otherwise form enough GLA. This would include those who do not get enough essential fatty acids in their diet, drink or have drunk excessive amounts of alcohol, have low thyroid function, or have received radiation treatment. The direct source of GLA takes the pressure off the body to produce the necessary amount of GLA for optimum health. Linolenic Acid is not produced by the body but must be obtained through the dietary intake. LA acts as an energy source and is what the body converts to GLA which in turn forms other substances such as prostaglandins. Prostaglandins are hormone-like substances that are found in every body cell. They are critical to the body’s overall health maintenance, but need to be replenished constantly as once they serve their purpose, they are destroyed." C. Johnson Superdrove --- On Sun, 10/16/11, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote: From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Cures for EHS To: [hidden email] Date: Sunday, October 16, 2011, 12:02 AM Diane, i do poorly with EPO too. hav heard it increases estrogen and I think that's why :) -----Original Message----- From: Evie <[hidden email]> To: eSens <[hidden email]> Sent: Fri, Oct 14, 2011 4:53 pm Subject: Re: [eSens] Cures for EHS <my health goes downhill with too much saturated fats... I do try to consume some, though...> Sorry to hear, Marc. My body hasn't found a sat fat it doesn't love. ;) I remember you saying you don't tolerate coconut oil. Have you ever tried black currant oil? My body likes that one, too, but not evening primrose oil. And they are both omega 6s. I never could figure that out. EPoil causes me great stress. But you would think all omega 6s would act the same. If I remember correctly, you like EP oil, right? There must be a message in there somewhere. ;) How does EP oil work as a toxin magnet for you? Diane ________________________________ From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 4:34 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] Cures for EHS > Have you tried saturated fats, Marc? Yeah, Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Hi All, In regards to Evening Primose Oil- quality of substance makes or breaks a product. Always a good idea to research: where the ingredients are coming from, what OTHER ingredients are added, how they are harvested and processed, are any of the ingredients coming from China, are they cold processed, are all just a few questions with regards to: supplements/glandulars/ essential oils and herbal products. This is where it PAYS to ask the right questions. Cheaper-less expensive may be more conveniant- but adding more toxins to a body that already has toxic over load doesn't make good sense. Lizzie To: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 00:03:08 -0700 Subject: Re: [eSens] Cures for EHS Diane, You should not be so quick to dismiss EP. Evening Primrose Oil is one of the major oils used for Multiple Sclerosis because it heals nerves and sheaths. It is from a flower. Maybe you are reacting to some kind of toxin that the flower produces. The article below says it is also used for people who have had radiation damage. http://www.hhnews.com/epo.htm "Evening Primrose Oil contains an anti-oxidant that counter acts the formation of free radicals.. It is also being studied for its pain reduction in association with arthritis, controlling complications of diabetes, controlling liver and kidney damage due to alcohol, depression, for Multiple sclerosis, skin/hair/nail repair, and controlling sever symptoms of PMS. Evening Primrose Oil is the richest source of Gamma-Linolenic acid. It contains about 72% Linoleic acid and 9 percent GLA. Since it contains the essential GLA, evening primrose oil is highly valuable to those who cannot otherwise form enough GLA. This would include those who do not get enough essential fatty acids in their diet, drink or have drunk excessive amounts of alcohol, have low thyroid function, or have received radiation treatment. The direct source of GLA takes the pressure off the body to produce the necessary amount of GLA for optimum health. Linolenic Acid is not produced by the body but must be obtained through the dietary intake. LA acts as an energy source and is what the body converts to GLA which in turn forms other substances such as prostaglandins. Prostaglandins are hormone-like substances that are found in every body cell. They are critical to the bodys overall health maintenance, but need to be replenished constantly as once they serve their purpose, they are destroyed." C. Johnson Superdrove --- On Sun, 10/16/11, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote: From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Cures for EHS To: [hidden email] Date: Sunday, October 16, 2011, 12:02 AM Diane, i do poorly with EPO too. hav heard it increases estrogen and I think that's why :) -----Original Message----- From: Evie <[hidden email]> To: eSens <[hidden email]> Sent: Fri, Oct 14, 2011 4:53 pm Subject: Re: [eSens] Cures for EHS <my health goes downhill with too much saturated fats... I do try to consume some, though...> Sorry to hear, Marc. My body hasn't found a sat fat it doesn't love. ;) I remember you saying you don't tolerate coconut oil. Have you ever tried black currant oil? My body likes that one, too, but not evening primrose oil. And they are both omega 6s. I never could figure that out. EPoil causes me great stress. But you would think all omega 6s would act the same. If I remember correctly, you like EP oil, right? There must be a message in there somewhere. ;) How does EP oil work as a toxin magnet for you? Diane ________________________________ From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 4:34 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] Cures for EHS > Have you tried saturated fats, Marc? Yeah, Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [hidden email] [hidden email] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [hidden email] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ |
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> Evening Primrose Oil is one of the major oils used for
> Multiple Sclerosis because it heals nerves and sheaths. > It is from a flower. Maybe you are reacting to some > kind of toxin that the flower produces. When having a negative reaction to a supplement, note that it may have nothing to do with the supplements active ingredient -- it may be one of the fillers, binders, or the capsule itself. And in the case of oils, some of these use nasty chemicals to extract the oil, and you may react to the residue of those chemicals. So if reacting bad to something, it sometimes helps if you simply switch to a different product. A recent case in point for myself -- I've been recently experimenting with a liquid Maca extract from "Maca Magic". On the bottle it says to take 40 - 80 drops per day, but I quickly discovered that I was having bad reactions at ONE drop per day! I had noted that I purchased a non-alcoholic version of the supplement (using vegetable glycerin instead of alcohol), so I then bought the version preserved in alcohol from the same company -- my reaction to this supplement was indeed different (and it's too soon for me to report anything good or bad from Maca, but I do certainly have a strong initial reaction to it -- time will tell if I decide it's good/bad/indifferent) Marc |
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Hi Diane,
Thanks I just think I live in a too toxic area for anything to work well. First you must avoid and now with cell 4G LTE I won't be able to avoid. I did order some Folic acid that is supposed help detoxify the system. Loni --- On Fri, 10/14/11, Evie <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Evie <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Cures for EHS To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Date: Friday, October 14, 2011, 1:29 PM Hi, Loni, You very well may not be taking enough B12. However, there are also other things to consider. The following is a compilation of factors which influence nerve health which I compiled for my own use some time ago. This might help you figure out what would help you with your neuropathy (that is the likely cause of your burning and my vibrations): High on the list of suspects are B12, thiamine (B1), B6, and folic acid (deficiencies or excesses [except for B12; there are no known symptoms for B12 excess]). Also one needs to balance all of the B vitamins—they support each other, but too much of one can cause an imbalance with the others; add a natural full spectrum B 50 or B100 when you take stand alone supplements of any Bs, including B12. And there are also the bioflavinoids, etc, which need to be considered—inositol, biotin, choline, etc, which are in a full spectrum B, and other nutrients such as gamma linoleic acid, alpha lipoic acid, and acetyl l-carnitine which usually are not but are helpful in various ways. Also, electrolytes are needed for nerve health—phosphorus, potassium, sodium, magnesium, and calcium AEP; and these, too, need balanced. Vitamin C, zinc, and iron are also needed. Coconut oil, due to being high (60%, I believe) in medium chain triglycerides (MCT), is likely helpful. Recent research implicates hydrogenated oils in causing many of the neuro-degenerative diseases. MCT oil is thought to bring healing in many of these diseases. [Use 100% pure virgin coconut or palm kernel oils only, and also balance your omega 3s (salmon, fish) and 9s (extra virgin olive oil) with this, as it is high in omega 6.] Other oils which might be helpful are evening primrose and black currant oils (also omega 6s). Besides considering these ideas, there are many reasons why B12 might not be working: You might need a different type than you are taking—a sublingual instead of an ingestible pill, or an injection rather than a sublingual. You might have too little stomach acid to utilize it (another reason a sublingual or injection might be necessary). You might have too much unhealthy bacteria in your gut (ditto for why to use sublingual or injection). You might have a digestive disease, such as celiac, crohns, or have had gastrointestinal surgery which prevents absorption. (again, sublingual or injection works better) You might be taking a drug which interferes with B12 absorption or depletes it, such as prevacid, prilosec, tagamet, zantac, pepcid, or metformin. You may need more due to excessive stress in your life, you are a vegetarian, or eat too little protein. But the most common reason for not being able to absorb B12 is a lack of intrinsic factor. If you have or have had pernicious anemia, that can destroy the parietal cells and lead to low stomach acid (achlorhydria), which causes the inability to produce intrinsic factor. Age and other digestive diseases also negatively affect this. To find out if you have intrinsic factor you can perform a "Niacin Flush": Take 100 to 200 mg. of niacin (not niacinamide), on an empty stomach. If you experience flushing, then you do not make enough of the intrinsic factor. If this is the case, it is necessary to make sure you have enough stomach acid. Intrinsic factor cannot be made without enough stomach acid. Some will say if this is the case you must use injections, but that is not rarely true, you just need more stomach acid. Sublinguals in large doses usually can be taken successfully even if you lack intrinsic factor, tho you will also read that this doesn't work on many sites. But, whatever; do the work to overcome lack of stomach acid and lack of intrinsic factor will go away. I have had pernicious anemia and I now can make intrinsic factor and use sublinguals. So the naysayers are not correct that it is a permanent condition. I hope this helps you find a solution for your skin burning and nerve stress, Loni. Good luck, Diane ________________________________ From: Loni <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 12:20 AM Subject: Re: [eSens] Cures for EHS Hi Diane, I do take B12 and still have skin burning. Maybe I need to take more. Loni --- On Thu, 10/13/11, Evie <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Evie <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Cures for EHS To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Date: Thursday, October 13, 2011, 4:22 PM Hi, Loni, I used to have problems with vibrations in my body building up at night. I also had the skin burning, but that was during the day. Both responded to B12 for me. Have you tried B12 at night before bed? I took a methyl-cobalamin sublingual. You might require a lot at first. After a while I could get relief with fairly small amounts. Diane ________________________________ From: Loni <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:49 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] Cures for EHS Primarily face but whole body. It builds up when I am sleeping and I just feel like i was plugged in to a socket. I'm going to try grounding myself and see if that might help. I also thought about sleeping on the ground so that you are grounded. I'd have a vinyl/foam thin cot mattress to sleep on. I don't know if that would inhibit the grounding or not. Then I thought about buying the grounding kit from I think Earth Calm? And then just sleeping in the van with the grounding sheet. Loni --- On Wed, 10/12/11, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Cures for EHS To: [hidden email] Date: Wednesday, October 12, 2011, 11:26 AM > Someone in Snowflake AZ at the MCS EHS community there told me that > antconvultion drugs have helped her with skin burning! Just curious, do you have "skin burning" (entire body), or just "face burning"? I can only recall ever having "face burning", and found several things to relieve it -- EMF protection devices, antioxidants, essential fatty acids, skin lotion, clay facial masques, etc. Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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"Skin burning" could be "paresthesia" or "neuropathy". (Google that.) This could be due to a B12 deficiency, or a folate deficiency (or both). However, taking B12 (swallowed), and folate (including folic acid), or eating "good foods" doesn't always fix the problem, for everyone -- due to the malabsorption (or other condition) that caused the problem. Try taking "Methyl-B12" (sublingual, dissolved slowly under the tongue), and try taking "Methyl-folate" too -- because regular cyanocobalamin-B12 (swallowed) and regular "folic acid" doesn't always work for everyone. If that doesn't seem to work (...it could require many months of supplements), it could still be a B12 deficiency -- and there are "functional tests" to find out if you're deficient in B12 and/or folate, in spite of the supplements, and/or good food. These tests will measure: "Methylmalonic acid" (MMA) which is elevated in B12 deficiency, even if the standard "Serum B12" blood test indicates (falsely) that you have enough B12. (It's not how much B12 you have, it's what your body is capable of using, and Methylmalonic acid indicates you're not using the B12 you "have".) "RBC folate" (Red blood cell Folate) which is the "bioavailable" folate, and is more trustworthy than the usually-measured "Serum Folate" levels. JD --- At 09:20 PM 13 10 2011, Loni wrote: > >Hi Diane, > >I do take B12 and still have skin burning. Maybe I need to take more. > >Loni > > >--- On Thu, 10/13/11, Evie <[hidden email]> wrote: > >From: Evie <[hidden email]> >Subject: Re: [eSens] Cures for EHS >To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> >Date: Thursday, October 13, 2011, 4:22 PM > >Hi, Loni, > >I used to have problems with vibrations in my body building up at night. I also had the skin burning, but that was during the day. Both responded to B12 for me. Have you tried B12 at night before bed? I took a methyl-cobalamin sublingual. You might require a lot at first. After a while I could get relief with fairly small amounts. > >Diane > >________________________________ >From: Loni <[hidden email]> >To: [hidden email] >Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:49 PM >Subject: Re: [eSens] Cures for EHS > > >Primarily face but whole body. It builds up when I am sleeping and I just feel like i was plugged in to a socket. I'm going to try grounding myself and see if that might help. > >I also thought about sleeping on the ground so that you are grounded. I'd have a vinyl/foam thin cot mattress to sleep on. I don't know if that would inhibit the grounding or not. > >Then I thought about buying the grounding kit from I think Earth Calm? And then just sleeping in the van with the grounding sheet. > >Loni > > > > > > > |
What do you consider elevated Methylmalonic acid showing b-12 it needs correcting? I need more answers if this is my issue or it's circulation. Thanks, Kathy From: JD <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Cures for EHS "Skin burning" could be "paresthesia" or "neuropathy". (Google that.) This could be due to a B12 deficiency, or a folate deficiency (or both). However, taking B12 (swallowed), and folate (including folic acid), or eating "good foods" doesn't always fix the problem, for everyone -- due to the malabsorption (or other condition) that caused the problem. Try taking "Methyl-B12" (sublingual, dissolved slowly under the tongue), and try taking "Methyl-folate" too -- because regular cyanocobalamin-B12 (swallowed) and regular "folic acid" doesn't always work for everyone. If that doesn't seem to work (...it could require many months of supplements), it could still be a B12 deficiency -- and there are "functional tests" to find out if you're deficient in B12 and/or folate, in spite of the supplements, and/or good food. These tests will measure: "Methylmalonic acid" (MMA) which is elevated in B12 deficiency, even if the standard "Serum B12" blood test indicates (falsely) that you have enough B12. (It's not how much B12 you have, it's what your body is capable of using, and Methylmalonic acid indicates you're not using the B12 you "have".) "RBC folate" (Red blood cell Folate) which is the "bioavailable" folate, and is more trustworthy than the usually-measured "Serum Folate" levels. JD --- At 09:20 PM 13 10 2011, Loni wrote: > >Hi Diane, > >I do take B12 and still have skin burning. Maybe I need to take more. > >Loni > > >--- On Thu, 10/13/11, Evie <[hidden email]> wrote: > >From: Evie <[hidden email]> >Subject: Re: [eSens] Cures for EHS >To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> >Date: Thursday, October 13, 2011, 4:22 PM > >Hi, Loni, > >I used to have problems with vibrations in my body building up at night. I also had the skin burning, but that was during the day. Both responded to B12 for me. Have you tried B12 at night before bed? I took a methyl-cobalamin sublingual. You might require a lot at first. After a while I could get relief with fairly small amounts. > >Diane > >________________________________ >From: Loni <[hidden email]> >To: [hidden email] >Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:49 PM >Subject: Re: [eSens] Cures for EHS > > >Primarily face but whole body. It builds up when I am sleeping and I just feel like i was plugged in to a socket. I'm going to try grounding myself and see if that might help. > >I also thought about sleeping on the ground so that you are grounded. I'd have a vinyl/foam thin cot mattress to sleep on. I don't know if that would inhibit the grounding or not. > >Then I thought about buying the grounding kit from I think Earth Calm? And then just sleeping in the van with the grounding sheet. > >Loni > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
--- At 08:08 AM 17 10 2011, KathyB wrote: > >What do you consider elevated Methylmalonic acid >showing b-12 it needs correcting? > >I need more answers if this is my issue or it's circulation. > >Thanks, Kathy > MMA is one of the best, and more widely available tests for B12. At the same time they usually test for "Serum B12" and "Total Homocysteine" -- (also do test for RBC Folate). If you have paresthesias, you'd best do the testing. At the same time, or later if a B12 deficiency is detected, they can also test for autoantibodies to: 1) Parietal Cells (the cells in the stomach that make hydrochloric acid) and 2) Intrinsic Factor, without which B12 will never be absorbed from food or swallowed supplements. (B12 supplements should be of the "sublingual" variety.) If you don't make enough stomach acid, then it's unlikely you can absorb B12 (or even digest foods containing B12), because you also won't have Intrinsic Factor (it's made by the Parietal Cells, too). But with low stomach acid, many other vitamins and minerals will also NOT be absorbed, causing many more deficiencies than just B12. Complete testing for these factors is done by Gastroenterology M.D.s, but you can try this first: Stomach Acid Assessment: http://www.drdebe.com/stomach-acid-assessment.html JD >_______________________________________ >From: JD <[hidden email]> >Subject: Re: [eSens] Cures for EHS > > >"Skin burning" could be "paresthesia" or "neuropathy". (Google that.) > >This could be due to a B12 deficiency, or a folate deficiency (or both). > >However, taking B12 (swallowed), and folate (including folic acid), or >eating "good foods" doesn't always fix the problem, for everyone -- due >to the malabsorption (or other condition) that caused the problem. > >Try taking "Methyl-B12" (sublingual, dissolved slowly under the tongue), >and try taking "Methyl-folate" too -- because regular cyanocobalamin-B12 >(swallowed) and regular "folic acid" doesn't always work for everyone. > >If that doesn't seem to work (...it could require many months of >supplements), it could still be a B12 deficiency -- and there are >"functional tests" to find out if you're deficient in B12 and/or >folate, in spite of the supplements, and/or good food. > >These tests will measure: > >"Methylmalonic acid" (MMA) which is elevated in B12 deficiency, even if >the standard "Serum B12" blood test indicates (falsely) that you have >enough B12. (It's not how much B12 you have, it's what your body is >capable of using, and Methylmalonic acid indicates you're not using the >B12 you "have".) > >"RBC folate" (Red blood cell Folate) which is the "bioavailable" folate, >and is more trustworthy than the usually-measured "Serum Folate" levels. > >JD > > > >--- At 09:20 PM 13 10 2011, Loni wrote: >> >>Hi Diane, >> >>I do take B12 and still have skin burning. Maybe I need to take more. >> >>Loni >> >> > > > > > |
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Thanks, Paul,
I had suspected you also did this, but didn't know for sure. I hope all goes well with you on this new job and you are able to keep working in the future. You need that. That is potentially wonderful news, re the MRIs and vertebrae problems, too! I hope that leads to positive results for you. Bless you, Diane ________________________________ From: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 5:36 AM Subject: Re: [eSens] Cures for EHS Many thanks for your sound advice ! It is essentially what I try to do as you sugest, will try the supplement top ups. My 1st day went well as I was doing surveys outside, only dire moment was when my boss used his htc phone near me, but had no problems then I was minding my own business with my back to the contractor man, and began to develop an itchy sore head and found myself realising that I was being zapped after say 30 secs, turned and there was the contractor using his mobile 4feet from me !! my observations here are that sometimes the newer smart phones dont give me a reaction whereas the older thin slider types do ? a whole host of paramenters and anomolies I guess. Any way thanks for the advice. PS just had negs of an MRI on my neck, looking at them (obviously I am no expert) looks like c5-c6 vertebrea are slightly impinging on spinal cord, maybe that's why I get pain and mild wozzy/dizzy spells - the MRI only shows it lying down not in real time/function - wait to see what pain expert says. puk In a message dated 13/10/2011 21:11:25 GMT Daylight Time, [hidden email] writes: Hi Paul, I don't like the word cure either, tho I have personally seen a lot of healing and know it is doable. So looking for healing is a good thing; looking for a cure might be unattainable. You are right, it doesn't take a lot to overturn advances in healing, so it is very important to also use avoidance while using techniques to heal. This is particularly true in the early stages of healing. I hope your temporary work doesn't do you in. I pray it will be easier on you than you think. I find for myself, that emotional stress has sometimes done me in faster than the actual ES stress, so I have adopted coping mechanisms to try to deal with my emotions: I try to never judge an ES situation before hand. I intend and hope it goes well and easily for me and try to leave any other thoughts or decisions on what might happen behind. I try to keep myself distracted and focused elsewhere. When I didn't do this, or when I got to a situation and asked myself if ES was bothering me, it always seemed to. However, I learned I don't notice it as much when I am distracted and don't allow myself to focus on it. Now, this is a coping mechanism, it is not designed to be a health strategy; it is still healthier not to be in areas of bad emfs. You will still get ES stress; what you will not get doing this is emotional stress on top of the ES stress. ;) Another thing you can do is to double up on helpful nutrients which you know emfs deplete. I also carry some of these nutrients with me and take them thru-out the day. [For me, personally, calcium and pantethine (B5) are really essential. Vit C and electrolyte drops (including trace minerals) I also often carry with me.] I hope this job is a true blessing; good luck, Paul, Diane ________________________________ From: "_paulpjc@aol.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) " <_paulpjc@aol.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) > To: _eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 5:53 AM Subject: Re: [eSens] Cures for EHS when you use the word healing I assume that you are looking to be rid of ES (DONT LIKE THE WORD CURE), in my experience of of 10-13yrs ES, I have dropped the healing bit in turn for sheilding, protection, aspirations for general health improvement, not having a job that tops me up all the time and so on, I have found that it does not take much to undo all the good work, so its snakes and ladders - for example my neighbour has just kitted out his back yard with compact flourescent floodlights, twice now I have felt stinging around my eyes,cheeks and scalp, on both ocassions I have asked if anyone in the house has a mobile on etc but nothing, then going to the back door I see the lights have been triggered on, I cant belive that they would cause such a reaction from 6-7m away but its looking likely. I have just secured a job as a building surveyor (2 month contract) after 2 yrs unemployed so its time to fry again ! I should be jubilant but they do not know my ES secret, so I will being greeting my old friend - fatigue and all the other Es symptoms on mass very soon - lets hope I can see it through and get some money in. One thing is for sure the issue of stress is integral in ES, if you are stressed then you will have cortisol, adrenalin in your system and this will undoutedly fuel the metabolic reations making them worse or rather catylising the effects. puk In a message dated 13/10/2011 07:12:36 GMT Daylight Time, _superdrove@yahoo.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) writes: As far as protective devices and supplements, my physical assault has gone far beyond that arena. In order for things like that to work, I need some serious healing therapy. 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