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Re: Cures for EHS

PUK
Many thanks for your sound advice ! It is essentially what I try to do as  
you sugest, will try the supplement top ups.  My 1st day went well as I was  
doing surveys outside, only dire moment was when my boss used his htc phone
near  me, but had no problems then I was minding my own business with my
back to the  contractor man, and began to develop an itchy sore head and found
myself  realising that I was being zapped after say 30 secs, turned and
there was the  contractor using his mobile 4feet from me !! my observations
here are that  sometimes the newer smart phones dont give me a reaction whereas
the older thin  slider types  do ? a whole host of paramenters and
anomolies I guess.   Any way thanks for the advice.  PS just had negs of an MRI on
my neck,  looking at them (obviously I am no expert) looks like c5-c6
vertebrea are  slightly impinging on spinal cord, maybe that's why I get pain and
mild  wozzy/dizzy spells - the MRI only shows it lying down not in real
time/function  - wait to see what pain expert says.
 
puk
 
 
In a message dated 13/10/2011 21:11:25 GMT Daylight Time,  
[hidden email] writes:

 
 
 
Hi Paul,

I don't like the word cure either, tho I have personally  seen a lot of
healing and know it is doable.  So looking for healing is a  good thing;
looking for a cure might be unattainable.  You are right, it  doesn't take a lot
to overturn advances in healing, so it is very important to  also use
avoidance while using techniques to heal.  This is particularly  true in the early
stages of healing.

I hope your temporary work  doesn't do you in.  I pray it will be easier on
you than you think.   I find for myself, that emotional stress has
sometimes done me in faster than  the actual ES stress, so I have adopted coping
mechanisms to try to deal with  my emotions:  

I try to never judge an ES situation before  hand.  

I intend and hope it goes well and easily for me and try  to leave any
other thoughts or decisions on what might happen behind.  

I try to keep myself distracted and focused elsewhere.  When I  didn't do
this, or when I got to a situation and asked myself if ES was  bothering me,
it always seemed to.  However, I learned I don't notice it  as much when I
am distracted and don't allow myself to focus on it.  

Now, this is a coping mechanism, it is not designed to be a health  
strategy; it is still healthier not to be in areas of bad emfs.  You will  still
get ES stress; what you will not get doing this is emotional stress on  top of
the ES stress.  ;)  

Another thing you can do is  to double up on helpful nutrients which you
know emfs deplete.  I also  carry some of these nutrients with me and take
them thru-out the day.   [For me, personally, calcium and pantethine (B5) are
really essential.   Vit C and electrolyte drops (including trace minerals) I
also often carry with  me.]

I hope this job is a true blessing; good luck,  Paul,

Diane  

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To: _eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email])
Sent:  Thursday, October 13, 2011 5:53 AM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Cures for  EHS


when you use the word healing I assume that you are  looking to be rid of
ES
(DONT LIKE THE WORD CURE), in my experience of of  10-13yrs ES, I have
dropped the healing bit in turn for sheilding,  protection, aspirations for
general health improvement, not having a job  that tops me up all the time
and
so on, I have found that it does not take  much to undo all the good work,
so
its snakes and ladders - for example my  neighbour has just kitted out his
back yard with compact flourescent  floodlights, twice now I have felt
stinging around my eyes,cheeks and  scalp, on both ocassions I have asked
if
anyone in the house has a mobile  on etc but nothing, then going to the
back
door I see the lights have been  triggered on, I cant belive that they
would
cause such a reaction from  6-7m away but its looking likely. I have just
secured a job as a building  surveyor (2 month contract) after 2 yrs
unemployed
so its time to fry  again ! I should be jubilant but they do not know my ES
secret, so I will  being greeting my old friend - fatigue and all the other
Es symptoms on  mass very soon - lets hope I can see it through and get
some money in. One  thing is for sure the issue of stress is integral in
ES,
if you are  stressed then you will have cortisol, adrenalin in your system
and this  will undoutedly fuel the metabolic reations making them worse or
rather  catylising the effects.

puk

In a message dated 13/10/2011  07:12:36 GMT Daylight Time,
_superdrove@yahoo.com_ (mailto:[hidden email])   writes:

As far as protective devices and supplements, my physical  assault has gone
far beyond that arena. In order for things like that to  work, I need some
serious healing therapy.

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Re: Cures for EHS

debbie4god39
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Diane, i do poorly with EPO too. hav heard it increases estrogen and I think that's why  :) 




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To: eSens &lt;[hidden email]&gt;
Sent: Fri, Oct 14, 2011 4:53 pm
Subject: Re: [eSens] Cures for EHS

  &lt;my health goes downhill with too much
saturated fats... I do try to consume some,
though...&gt;

Sorry to hear, Marc. 

My body hasn't found a sat fat it doesn't love.  ;)  I remember you saying you don't tolerate coconut oil.  Have you ever tried black currant oil?  My body likes that one, too, but not evening primrose oil.  And they are both omega 6s.  I never could figure that out.  EPoil causes me great stress.  But you would think all omega 6s would act the same.  If I remember correctly, you like EP oil, right?  There must be a message in there somewhere.  ;)  How does EP oil work as a toxin magnet for you?

Diane

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From: Marc Martin &lt;[hidden email]&gt;
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 4:34 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Cures for EHS

 
&gt; Have you tried saturated fats, Marc? 

Yeah,
Marc

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Re: Cures for EHS

C.a.b. Johnson
Diane,

You should not be so quick to dismiss EP.

Evening Primrose Oil is one of the major oils used for Multiple Sclerosis because it heals nerves and sheaths.  It is from a flower.  Maybe you are reacting to some kind of toxin that the flower produces. The article below says it is also used for people who have had radiation damage.

http://www.hhnews.com/epo.htm

"Evening Primrose Oil contains an anti-oxidant that counter acts the formation of free radicals.. It is also being studied for its pain reduction in association with arthritis, controlling complications of diabetes, controlling liver and kidney damage due to alcohol, depression, for Multiple sclerosis, skin/hair/nail repair, and controlling sever symptoms of PMS.   

Evening Primrose Oil is the richest source of Gamma-Linolenic acid.  It contains about 72% Linoleic acid and 9 percent GLA. Since it contains the essential GLA, evening primrose oil is highly valuable to those who cannot otherwise form enough GLA. This would include those who do not get enough essential fatty acids in their diet, drink or have drunk excessive amounts of alcohol, have low thyroid function, or have received radiation treatment. The direct source of GLA takes the pressure off the body to produce the necessary amount of GLA for optimum health.

Linolenic Acid is not produced by the body but must be obtained through the dietary intake. LA acts as an energy source and is what the body converts to GLA which in turn forms other substances such as prostaglandins. Prostaglandins are hormone-like substances that are found in every body cell. They are critical to the body’s overall health maintenance, but need to be replenished constantly as once they serve their purpose, they are destroyed."

C. Johnson
Superdrove


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To: [hidden email]
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      Diane, i do poorly with EPO too. hav heard it increases estrogen and I think that's why  :)  



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To: eSens &lt;[hidden email]&gt;

Sent: Fri, Oct 14, 2011 4:53 pm

Subject: Re: [eSens] Cures for EHS



  &lt;my health goes downhill with too much

saturated fats... I do try to consume some,

though...&gt;



Sorry to hear, Marc.  



My body hasn't found a sat fat it doesn't love.  ;)  I remember you saying you don't tolerate coconut oil.  Have you ever tried black currant oil?  My body likes that one, too, but not evening primrose oil.  And they are both omega 6s.  I never could figure that out.  EPoil causes me great stress.  But you would think all omega 6s would act the same.  If I remember correctly, you like EP oil, right?  There must be a message in there somewhere.  ;)  How does EP oil work as a toxin magnet for you?



Diane



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From: Marc Martin &lt;[hidden email]&gt;

To: [hidden email]

Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 4:34 PM

Subject: Re: [eSens] Cures for EHS



 

&gt; Have you tried saturated fats, Marc?



Yeah,

Marc



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RE: Cures for EHS

Elizabeth thode

Hi All,
In regards to Evening Primose Oil- quality of substance makes or breaks a product. Always a good idea to research: where the ingredients are coming from, what OTHER ingredients are added, how they are harvested and processed, are any of the ingredients coming from China, are they cold processed, are all just a few questions with regards to:  supplements/glandulars/ essential oils and herbal products. This is where it PAYS to ask the right questions. Cheaper-less expensive may be more conveniant- but adding more toxins to a body that already has toxic over load doesn't make good sense.
Lizzie
 



To: [hidden email]
From: [hidden email]
Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 00:03:08 -0700
Subject: Re: [eSens] Cures for EHS


 



Diane,

You should not be so quick to dismiss EP.

Evening Primrose Oil is one of the major oils used for Multiple Sclerosis because it heals nerves and sheaths.  It is from a flower.  Maybe you are reacting to some kind of toxin that the flower produces. The article below says it is also used for people who have had radiation damage.

http://www.hhnews.com/epo.htm

"Evening Primrose Oil contains an anti-oxidant that counter acts the formation of free radicals.. It is also being studied for its pain reduction in association with arthritis, controlling complications of diabetes, controlling liver and kidney damage due to alcohol, depression, for Multiple sclerosis, skin/hair/nail repair, and controlling sever symptoms of PMS.  

Evening Primrose Oil is the richest source of Gamma-Linolenic acid.  It contains about 72% Linoleic acid and 9 percent GLA. Since it contains the essential GLA, evening primrose oil is highly valuable to those who cannot otherwise form enough GLA. This would include those who do not get enough essential fatty acids in their diet, drink or have drunk excessive amounts of alcohol, have low thyroid function, or have received radiation treatment. The direct source of GLA takes the pressure off the body to produce the necessary amount of GLA for optimum health.

Linolenic Acid is not produced by the body but must be obtained through the dietary intake. LA acts as an energy source and is what the body converts to GLA which in turn forms other substances such as prostaglandins. Prostaglandins are hormone-like substances that are found in every body cell. They are critical to the body’s overall health maintenance, but need to be replenished constantly as once they serve their purpose, they are destroyed."

C. Johnson
Superdrove

--- On Sun, 10/16/11, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Cures for EHS
To: [hidden email]
Date: Sunday, October 16, 2011, 12:02 AM

 

Diane, i do poorly with EPO too. hav heard it increases estrogen and I think that's why :)

-----Original Message-----

From: Evie &lt;[hidden email]&gt;

To: eSens &lt;[hidden email]&gt;

Sent: Fri, Oct 14, 2011 4:53 pm

Subject: Re: [eSens] Cures for EHS

&lt;my health goes downhill with too much

saturated fats... I do try to consume some,

though...&gt;

Sorry to hear, Marc.

My body hasn't found a sat fat it doesn't love. ;) I remember you saying you don't tolerate coconut oil. Have you ever tried black currant oil? My body likes that one, too, but not evening primrose oil. And they are both omega 6s. I never could figure that out. EPoil causes me great stress. But you would think all omega 6s would act the same. If I remember correctly, you like EP oil, right? There must be a message in there somewhere. ;) How does EP oil work as a toxin magnet for you?

Diane

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From: Marc Martin &lt;[hidden email]&gt;

To: [hidden email]

Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 4:34 PM

Subject: Re: [eSens] Cures for EHS

&gt; Have you tried saturated fats, Marc?

Yeah,

Marc

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Re: evening primrose oil

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> Evening Primrose Oil is one of the major oils used for
> Multiple Sclerosis because it heals nerves and sheaths. 
> It is from a flower.  Maybe you are reacting to some
> kind of toxin that the flower produces.

When having a negative reaction to a supplement, note
that it may have nothing to do with the supplements
active ingredient -- it may be one of the fillers,
binders, or the capsule itself.  And in the case
of oils, some of these use nasty chemicals to extract
the oil, and you may react to the residue of those
chemicals.

So if reacting bad to something, it sometimes helps
if you simply switch to a different product.

A recent case in point for myself -- I've been recently
experimenting with a liquid Maca extract from "Maca Magic".  
On the bottle it says to take 40 - 80 drops per day, but
I quickly discovered that I was having bad reactions at
ONE drop per day!  I had noted that I purchased a
non-alcoholic version of the supplement (using vegetable
glycerin instead of alcohol), so I then bought the version
preserved in alcohol from the same company -- my reaction
to this supplement was indeed different (and it's too
soon for me to report anything good or bad from Maca,
but I do certainly have a strong initial reaction to
it -- time will tell if I decide it's good/bad/indifferent)

Marc
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Re: Cures for EHS

Loni Rosser
In reply to this post by evie15422
Hi Diane,
 
Thanks I just think I live in a too toxic area for anything to work well. First you must avoid and now with cell 4G LTE I won't be able to avoid.
 
I did order some Folic acid that is supposed help detoxify the system.
 
Loni

--- On Fri, 10/14/11, Evie <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Evie <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Cures for EHS
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Date: Friday, October 14, 2011, 1:29 PM



 



Hi, Loni,
 
You very well may not be
taking enough B12.  However, there are
also other things to consider.  The
following is a compilation of factors which influence nerve health which I compiled
for my own use some time ago.  This might
help you figure out what would help you with your neuropathy (that is the
likely cause of your burning and my vibrations):
 
High on the list of suspects
are B12, thiamine (B1), B6, and folic acid (deficiencies or excesses [except
for B12; there are no known symptoms for B12 excess]).  Also one needs to balance all of the B
vitamins—they support each other, but too much of one can cause an imbalance
with the others; add a natural full spectrum B 50 or B100 when you take stand
alone supplements of any Bs, including B12.  And there are also the bioflavinoids, etc, which need to be
considered—inositol, biotin, choline, etc, which are in a full spectrum B, and other nutrients such as gamma
linoleic acid, alpha lipoic acid, and acetyl l-carnitine which usually are not but are helpful in various ways.

 
Also, electrolytes are needed
for nerve health—phosphorus, potassium, sodium, magnesium, and calcium AEP; and
these, too, need balanced.  Vitamin C,
zinc, and iron are also needed.  Coconut
oil, due to being high (60%, I believe) in medium chain triglycerides (MCT), is likely
helpful.  Recent research implicates hydrogenated
oils in causing many of the neuro-degenerative diseases.  MCT oil is thought to bring healing in many
of these diseases.  [Use 100% pure virgin
coconut or palm kernel oils only, and also balance your omega 3s (salmon, fish)
and 9s (extra virgin olive oil) with this, as it is high in omega 6.]  Other oils which might be helpful are evening
primrose and black currant oils (also omega 6s).
 
Besides considering these
ideas, there are many reasons why B12 might not be working:
 
You might need a different
type than you are taking—a sublingual instead of an ingestible pill, or an
injection rather than a sublingual.
 
You might have too little
stomach acid to utilize it (another reason a sublingual or injection might be
necessary).
 
You might have too much
unhealthy bacteria in your gut  (ditto
for why to use sublingual or injection).
 
You might have a digestive
disease, such as celiac, crohns, or have had gastrointestinal surgery which
prevents absorption.  (again, sublingual
or injection works better)
 
You might be taking a drug
which interferes with B12 absorption or depletes it, such as prevacid,
prilosec, tagamet, zantac, pepcid, or metformin.
 
You may need more due to
excessive stress in your life, you are a vegetarian, or eat too little protein.
 
But the most common reason
for not being able to absorb B12 is a lack of intrinsic factor.  If you have or have had pernicious anemia,
that can destroy the parietal cells and lead to low stomach acid
(achlorhydria), which causes the inability to produce intrinsic factor.   Age and other digestive diseases also
negatively affect this.  To find out if you have intrinsic factor you can perform a "Niacin Flush":

Take 100 to 200 mg. of niacin (not niacinamide), on an empty stomach. If you experience flushing, then you do not make enough of the intrinsic factor.  If this is the case, it is necessary to make sure you have enough stomach acid.  Intrinsic factor cannot be made without enough stomach acid.  Some will say if this is the case you must use injections, but that is not rarely true, you just need more stomach acid.  Sublinguals in large doses usually can be taken successfully even if you lack intrinsic factor, tho you will also read that this doesn't work on many sites.  But, whatever; do the work to overcome lack of stomach acid and lack of intrinsic factor will go away.  I have had pernicious anemia and I now can make intrinsic factor and use sublinguals.  So the naysayers are not correct that it is a permanent condition.

 
I hope this helps you find a
solution for your skin burning and nerve stress, Loni. 
Good luck,
Diane 

________________________________
From: Loni <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 12:20 AM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Cures for EHS

 
Hi Diane,
 
I do take B12 and still have skin burning. Maybe I need to take more.

Loni

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From: Evie <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Cures for EHS
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Date: Thursday, October 13, 2011, 4:22 PM

 

Hi, Loni,

I used to have problems with vibrations in my body building up at night.  I also had the skin burning, but that was during the day.  Both responded to B12 for me.  Have you tried B12 at night before bed?  I took a methyl-cobalamin sublingual.  You might require a lot at first.  After a while I could get relief with fairly small amounts.

Diane

________________________________
From: Loni <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Cures for EHS

 
Primarily face but whole body. It builds up when I am sleeping and I just feel like i was plugged in to a socket. I'm going to try grounding myself and see if that might help.
 
I also thought about sleeping on the ground so that you are grounded. I'd have a vinyl/foam thin cot mattress to sleep on. I don't know if that would inhibit the grounding or not.
 
Then I thought about buying the grounding kit from I think Earth Calm? And then just sleeping in the van with the grounding sheet.
 
Loni

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From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Cures for EHS
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, October 12, 2011, 11:26 AM

 

> Someone in Snowflake AZ at the MCS EHS community there told me that
> antconvultion drugs have helped her with skin burning!

Just curious, do you have "skin burning" (entire body), or just "face
burning"?

I can only recall ever having "face burning", and found several things
to relieve it -- EMF protection devices, antioxidants, essential fatty
acids, skin lotion, clay facial masques, etc.

Marc

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Re: Cures for EHS

JD
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"Skin burning" could be "paresthesia" or "neuropathy". (Google that.)

This could be due to a B12 deficiency, or a folate deficiency (or both).

However, taking B12 (swallowed), and folate (including folic acid), or
eating "good foods" doesn't always fix the problem, for everyone -- due
to the malabsorption (or other condition) that caused the problem.

Try taking "Methyl-B12" (sublingual, dissolved slowly under the tongue),
and try taking "Methyl-folate" too -- because regular cyanocobalamin-B12
(swallowed) and regular "folic acid" doesn't always work for everyone.

If that doesn't seem to work (...it could require many months of
supplements), it could still be a B12 deficiency -- and there are
"functional tests" to find out if you're deficient in B12 and/or
folate, in spite of the supplements, and/or good food.

These tests will measure:

"Methylmalonic acid" (MMA) which is elevated in B12 deficiency, even if
the standard "Serum B12" blood test indicates (falsely) that you have
enough B12.  (It's not how much B12 you have, it's what your body is
capable of using, and Methylmalonic acid indicates you're not using the
B12 you "have".)

"RBC folate" (Red blood cell Folate) which is the "bioavailable" folate,
and is more trustworthy than the usually-measured "Serum Folate" levels.

JD



--- At 09:20 PM 13 10 2011, Loni wrote:

>
>Hi Diane,
>
>I do take B12 and still have skin burning. Maybe I need to take more.
>
>Loni
>
>
>--- On Thu, 10/13/11, Evie <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>From: Evie <[hidden email]>
>Subject: Re: [eSens] Cures for EHS
>To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
>Date: Thursday, October 13, 2011, 4:22 PM
>
>Hi, Loni,
>
>I used to have problems with vibrations in my body building up at night. I also had the skin burning, but that was during the day. Both responded to B12 for me. Have you tried B12 at night before bed? I took a methyl-cobalamin sublingual. You might require a lot at first. After a while I could get relief with fairly small amounts.
>
>Diane
>
>________________________________
>From: Loni <[hidden email]>
>To: [hidden email]
>Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:49 PM
>Subject: Re: [eSens] Cures for EHS
>
>  
>Primarily face but whole body. It builds up when I am sleeping and I just feel like i was plugged in to a socket. I'm going to try grounding myself and see if that might help.
>
>I also thought about sleeping on the ground so that you are grounded. I'd have a vinyl/foam thin cot mattress to sleep on. I don't know if that would inhibit the grounding or not.
>
>Then I thought about buying the grounding kit from I think Earth Calm? And then just sleeping in the van with the grounding sheet.
>
>Loni
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: Cures for EHS

KathyB

What do you consider elevated Methylmalonic acid

showing  b-12 it needs correcting?

I need more answers if this is my issue or it's circulation.


Thanks, Kathy


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"Skin burning" could be "paresthesia" or "neuropathy". (Google that.)



This could be due to a B12 deficiency, or a folate deficiency (or both).



However, taking B12 (swallowed), and folate (including folic acid), or

eating "good foods" doesn't always fix the problem, for everyone -- due

to the malabsorption (or other condition) that caused the problem.



Try taking "Methyl-B12" (sublingual, dissolved slowly under the tongue),

and try taking "Methyl-folate" too -- because regular cyanocobalamin-B12

(swallowed) and regular "folic acid" doesn't always work for everyone.



If that doesn't seem to work (...it could require many months of

supplements), it could still be a B12 deficiency -- and there are

"functional tests" to find out if you're deficient in B12 and/or

folate, in spite of the supplements, and/or good food.



These tests will measure:



"Methylmalonic acid" (MMA) which is elevated in B12 deficiency, even if

the standard "Serum B12" blood test indicates (falsely) that you have

enough B12.  (It's not how much B12 you have, it's what your body is

capable of using, and Methylmalonic acid indicates you're not using the

B12 you "have".)



"RBC folate" (Red blood cell Folate) which is the "bioavailable" folate,

and is more trustworthy than the usually-measured "Serum Folate" levels.



JD



--- At 09:20 PM 13 10 2011, Loni wrote:

>

>Hi Diane,

>

>I do take B12 and still have skin burning. Maybe I need to take more.

>

>Loni

>

>

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>

>From: Evie <[hidden email]>

>Subject: Re: [eSens] Cures for EHS

>To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>

>Date: Thursday, October 13, 2011, 4:22 PM

>

>Hi, Loni,

>

>I used to have problems with vibrations in my body building up at night. I also had the skin burning, but that was during the day. Both responded to B12 for me. Have you tried B12 at night before bed? I took a methyl-cobalamin sublingual. You might require a lot at first. After a while I could get relief with fairly small amounts.

>

>Diane

>

>________________________________

>From: Loni <[hidden email]>

>To: [hidden email]

>Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:49 PM

>Subject: Re: [eSens] Cures for EHS

>

>  

>Primarily face but whole body. It builds up when I am sleeping and I just feel like i was plugged in to a socket. I'm going to try grounding myself and see if that might help.

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>I also thought about sleeping on the ground so that you are grounded. I'd have a vinyl/foam thin cot mattress to sleep on. I don't know if that would inhibit the grounding or not.

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>Then I thought about buying the grounding kit from I think Earth Calm? And then just sleeping in the van with the grounding sheet.

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>Loni

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--- At 08:08 AM 17 10 2011, KathyB wrote:
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>What do you consider elevated Methylmalonic acid
>showing b-12 it needs correcting?
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>I need more answers if this is my issue or it's circulation.
>
>Thanks, Kathy
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MMA is one of the best, and more widely available tests for B12.
At the same time they usually test for "Serum B12" and "Total
Homocysteine" -- (also do test for RBC Folate).

If you have paresthesias, you'd best do the testing.

At the same time, or later if a B12 deficiency is detected,
they can also test for autoantibodies to: 1) Parietal Cells
(the cells in the stomach that make hydrochloric acid) and
2) Intrinsic Factor, without which B12 will never be absorbed
from food or swallowed supplements. (B12 supplements should
be of the "sublingual" variety.)

If you don't make enough stomach acid, then it's unlikely you
can absorb B12 (or even digest foods containing B12), because
you also won't have Intrinsic Factor (it's made by the Parietal
Cells, too).  But with low stomach acid, many other vitamins
and minerals will also NOT be absorbed, causing many more
deficiencies than just B12.

Complete testing for these factors is done by Gastroenterology
M.D.s, but you can try this first:

Stomach Acid Assessment:
http://www.drdebe.com/stomach-acid-assessment.html 


JD


>_______________________________________
>From: JD <[hidden email]>
>Subject: Re: [eSens] Cures for EHS
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>
>"Skin burning" could be "paresthesia" or "neuropathy". (Google that.)
>
>This could be due to a B12 deficiency, or a folate deficiency (or both).
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>However, taking B12 (swallowed), and folate (including folic acid), or
>eating "good foods" doesn't always fix the problem, for everyone -- due
>to the malabsorption (or other condition) that caused the problem.
>
>Try taking "Methyl-B12" (sublingual, dissolved slowly under the tongue),
>and try taking "Methyl-folate" too -- because regular cyanocobalamin-B12
>(swallowed) and regular "folic acid" doesn't always work for everyone.
>
>If that doesn't seem to work (...it could require many months of
>supplements), it could still be a B12 deficiency -- and there are
>"functional tests" to find out if you're deficient in B12 and/or
>folate, in spite of the supplements, and/or good food.
>
>These tests will measure:
>
>"Methylmalonic acid" (MMA) which is elevated in B12 deficiency, even if
>the standard "Serum B12" blood test indicates (falsely) that you have
>enough B12. (It's not how much B12 you have, it's what your body is
>capable of using, and Methylmalonic acid indicates you're not using the
>B12 you "have".)
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>"RBC folate" (Red blood cell Folate) which is the "bioavailable" folate,
>and is more trustworthy than the usually-measured "Serum Folate" levels.
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>JD
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>--- At 09:20 PM 13 10 2011, Loni wrote:
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>>Hi Diane,
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>>I do take B12 and still have skin burning. Maybe I need to take more.
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>>Loni
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Thanks, Paul,

I had suspected you also did this, but didn't know for sure.  I hope all goes well with you on this new job and you are able to keep working in the future.  You need that.  

That is potentially wonderful news, re the MRIs and vertebrae problems, too!  I hope that leads to positive results for you.


Bless you,
Diane



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From: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 5:36 AM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Cures for EHS


 
Many thanks for your sound advice ! It is essentially what I try to do as
you sugest, will try the supplement top ups.  My 1st day went well as I was
doing surveys outside, only dire moment was when my boss used his htc phone
near  me, but had no problems then I was minding my own business with my
back to the  contractor man, and began to develop an itchy sore head and found
myself  realising that I was being zapped after say 30 secs, turned and
there was the  contractor using his mobile 4feet from me !! my observations
here are that  sometimes the newer smart phones dont give me a reaction whereas
the older thin  slider types  do ? a whole host of paramenters and
anomolies I guess.   Any way thanks for the advice.  PS just had negs of an MRI on
my neck,  looking at them (obviously I am no expert) looks like c5-c6
vertebrea are  slightly impinging on spinal cord, maybe that's why I get pain and
mild  wozzy/dizzy spells - the MRI only shows it lying down not in real
time/function  - wait to see what pain expert says.

puk


In a message dated 13/10/2011 21:11:25 GMT Daylight Time,
[hidden email] writes:

Hi Paul,

I don't like the word cure either, tho I have personally  seen a lot of
healing and know it is doable.  So looking for healing is a  good thing;
looking for a cure might be unattainable.  You are right, it  doesn't take a lot
to overturn advances in healing, so it is very important to  also use
avoidance while using techniques to heal.  This is particularly  true in the early
stages of healing.

I hope your temporary work  doesn't do you in.  I pray it will be easier on
you than you think.   I find for myself, that emotional stress has
sometimes done me in faster than  the actual ES stress, so I have adopted coping
mechanisms to try to deal with  my emotions:

I try to never judge an ES situation before  hand.

I intend and hope it goes well and easily for me and try  to leave any
other thoughts or decisions on what might happen behind.

I try to keep myself distracted and focused elsewhere.  When I  didn't do
this, or when I got to a situation and asked myself if ES was  bothering me,
it always seemed to.  However, I learned I don't notice it  as much when I
am distracted and don't allow myself to focus on it.

Now, this is a coping mechanism, it is not designed to be a health
strategy; it is still healthier not to be in areas of bad emfs.  You will  still
get ES stress; what you will not get doing this is emotional stress on  top of
the ES stress.  ;)

Another thing you can do is  to double up on helpful nutrients which you
know emfs deplete.  I also  carry some of these nutrients with me and take
them thru-out the day.   [For me, personally, calcium and pantethine (B5) are
really essential.   Vit C and electrolyte drops (including trace minerals) I
also often carry with  me.]

I hope this job is a true blessing; good luck,  Paul,

Diane

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From: "_paulpjc@aol.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) " <_paulpjc@aol.com_
(mailto:[hidden email]) >
To: _eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email])
Sent:  Thursday, October 13, 2011 5:53 AM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Cures for  EHS

when you use the word healing I assume that you are  looking to be rid of
ES
(DONT LIKE THE WORD CURE), in my experience of of  10-13yrs ES, I have
dropped the healing bit in turn for sheilding,  protection, aspirations for
general health improvement, not having a job  that tops me up all the time
and
so on, I have found that it does not take  much to undo all the good work,
so
its snakes and ladders - for example my  neighbour has just kitted out his
back yard with compact flourescent  floodlights, twice now I have felt
stinging around my eyes,cheeks and  scalp, on both ocassions I have asked
if
anyone in the house has a mobile  on etc but nothing, then going to the
back
door I see the lights have been  triggered on, I cant belive that they
would
cause such a reaction from  6-7m away but its looking likely. I have just
secured a job as a building  surveyor (2 month contract) after 2 yrs
unemployed
so its time to fry  again ! I should be jubilant but they do not know my ES
secret, so I will  being greeting my old friend - fatigue and all the other
Es symptoms on  mass very soon - lets hope I can see it through and get
some money in. One  thing is for sure the issue of stress is integral in
ES,
if you are  stressed then you will have cortisol, adrenalin in your system
and this  will undoutedly fuel the metabolic reations making them worse or
rather  catylising the effects.

puk

In a message dated 13/10/2011  07:12:36 GMT Daylight Time,
_superdrove@yahoo.com_ (mailto:[hidden email])   writes:

As far as protective devices and supplements, my physical  assault has gone
far beyond that arena. In order for things like that to  work, I need some
serious healing therapy.

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