Just a crazy story

Hi all,

I was not sure whether I should post this, because it is too absurd to be true, but whether I like it or not it is true and I think I should share it...

I'm 31 years old and I live in Belgium. Belgium is a small country in Europe, most known for its capital Brussels.

As a lot of people here I'm also sensitive to laptops, cellphones, cars,...the usual stuff ;)

But even more worryingly I'm hypersensitive for some high frequent EMF in:
the Netherlands, Germany, England and France (+ probably a lot of other countries)

If I visit these countries I get migraine and pain in my heart and within +/- 12 hours I really have to leave that country or I'll get something really serious. It's a bit worse in the cities but I even get sick when I'm in the middle of nowhere: in a hotel or just walking outside!

The only places where I have been fine the past 3 years are Belgium and Thailand.

But a few places in Belgium I can't stand neither, on the Belgian Coast forinstance, I used to live there, I got sick from the day they installed Wifi for free on the beach...

This is all the more strange as in other places in Belgium (like 99%) I canstand Wifi/cell phone masts for instance... And in Belgium we also have 3G/UMTS- access on most cellphone masts...

Knowing that I may have to move to Antarctica or some place where EMF is not advanced makes me sometimes very desperate. The only reason why I'm trying to be hopeful is that 3 years ago in the Netherlands, my symptoms were even worse than they are now... So it may be getting better because the effect of some things I shouldn't have tried 3 years ago (such as Bio-magnets,...) have diminished...

Well this is more or less my crazy story... So far I've told this only to my brothers, sisters, parents and 2 friends...
Other people that know me simply don't understand why I don't go more on vacation abroad! ;)

Maybe there is an interesting tip for other sensitives, if you want to go on vacation with (probably) a lower emf-radiation, go to Belgium or Thailand;)

best regards,
Stephen.

Your story doesnt seem crazy at all. My symptoms got worse when I moved to the uk and my symptoms always invariably improve when I am inThailand as well.
 
A
--- On Tue, 23/2/10, stephen_vandevijvere <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: stephen_vandevijvere <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Just a crazy story
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, 23 February, 2010, 6:33


 



Hi all,

I was not sure whether I should post this, because it is too absurd to be true, but whether I like it or not it is true and I think I should share it...

I'm 31 years old and I live in Belgium. Belgium is a small country in Europe, most known for its capital Brussels.

As a lot of people here I'm also sensitive to laptops, cellphones, cars,...the usual stuff ;)

But even more worryingly I'm hypersensitive for some high frequent EMF in:
the Netherlands, Germany, England and France (+ probably a lot of other countries)

If I visit these countries I get migraine and pain in my heart and within +/- 12 hours I really have to leave that country or I'll get something really serious. It's a bit worse in the cities but I even get sick when I'm in the middle of nowhere: in a hotel or just walking outside!

The only places where I have been fine the past 3 years are Belgium and Thailand.

But a few places in Belgium I can't stand neither, on the Belgian Coast forinstance, I used to live there, I got sick from the day they installed Wifi for free on the beach...

This is all the more strange as in other places in Belgium (like 99%) I canstand Wifi/cell phone masts for instance... And in Belgium we also have 3G/UMTS- access on most cellphone masts...

Knowing that I may have to move to Antarctica or some place where EMF is not advanced makes me sometimes very desperate. The only reason why I'm trying to be hopeful is that 3 years ago in the Netherlands, my symptoms were even worse than they are now... So it may be getting better because the effect of some things I shouldn't have tried 3 years ago (such as Bio-magnets, ...) have diminished.. .

Well this is more or less my crazy story... So far I've told this only to my brothers, sisters, parents and 2 friends...
Other people that know me simply don't understand why I don't go more on vacation abroad! ;)

Maybe there is an interesting tip for other sensitives, if you want to go on vacation with (probably) a lower emf-radiation, go to Belgium or Thailand;)

best regards,
Stephen.









     

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Stephen

I read about anoher whose symptoms improves
in Thailand too.

Could the earth magnetism be involved here?

Lastly, do you have a reference about manganese
and allergies?  I am low in manganese and suffer
severe allergies and MCS.

Thanks,

Kooky



--- On Mon, 2/22/10, ada iye <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: ada iye <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Just a crazy story
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, February 22, 2010, 3:01 PM







 



 


   
     
     
     



Your story doesnt seem crazy at all. My symptoms got worse when I moved to the uk and my symptoms always invariably improve when I am inThailand as well.

 

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--- On Tue, 23/2/10, stephen_vandevijver e <stephen_vandevijver [hidden email]> wrote:



From: stephen_vandevijver e <stephen_vandevijver [hidden email]>

Subject: [eSens] Just a crazy story

To: eSens@yahoogroups. com

Date: Tuesday, 23 February, 2010, 6:33



 



Hi all,



I was not sure whether I should post this, because it is too absurd to be true, but whether I like it or not it is true and I think I should share it...



I'm 31 years old and I live in Belgium. Belgium is a small country in Europe, most known for its capital Brussels.



As a lot of people here I'm also sensitive to laptops, cellphones, cars,...the usual stuff ;)



But even more worryingly I'm hypersensitive for some high frequent EMF in:

the Netherlands, Germany, England and France (+ probably a lot of other countries)



If I visit these countries I get migraine and pain in my heart and within +/- 12 hours I really have to leave that country or I'll get something really serious. It's a bit worse in the cities but I even get sick when I'm in the middle of nowhere: in a hotel or just walking outside!



The only places where I have been fine the past 3 years are Belgium and Thailand.



But a few places in Belgium I can't stand neither, on the Belgian Coast forinstance, I used to live there, I got sick from the day they installed Wifi for free on the beach...



This is all the more strange as in other places in Belgium (like 99%) I canstand Wifi/cell phone masts for instance... And in Belgium we also have 3G/UMTS- access on most cellphone masts...



Knowing that I may have to move to Antarctica or some place where EMF is not advanced makes me sometimes very desperate. The only reason why I'm trying to be hopeful is that 3 years ago in the Netherlands, my symptoms were even worse than they are now... So it may be getting better because the effect of some things I shouldn't have tried 3 years ago (such as Bio-magnets, ...) have diminished.. .



Well this is more or less my crazy story... So far I've told this only to my brothers, sisters, parents and 2 friends...

Other people that know me simply don't understand why I don't go more on vacation abroad! ;)



Maybe there is an interesting tip for other sensitives, if you want to go on vacation with (probably) a lower emf-radiation, go to Belgium or Thailand;)



best regards,

Stephen.



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> I read about anoher whose symptoms improves
> in Thailand too.

Or maybe there is something somehow different
about the GEO satellites pointing at Thailand,
or some signal that is not embedded on the
electrical powers lines, or less wide area
Wi-Fi, etc.?

Marc

Indeed Belgium is a small country.
You don't have to travel to Thailand, there are many places in Belgium,
where the elektrosmog is very low.
Especially in the borden regions.

Along the autoroutes, in Belgium the masts are merely GSM1800, where in the
Netherlands the most part are GSM900, which harm more.

The TETRA, in Belgium called the Astrid network, is not so overwhelming as
in the Netherlands.

Electrosensitives should stay far away from magnets, even when they are
called, Bio.

Why don't you start healimng yourself, in stead of mocking?

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
checked by Norton






----- Original Message -----
From: "stephen_vandevijvere" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 8:33 PM
Subject: [eSens] Just a crazy story

Charles I dont understand the physics at all what does GSM mean and how do these frequencies pertain to the uk?. Can you suggest any other low electrosmog areas in europe apart from Belgium?.
 
Thanks
 
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--- On Tue, 23/2/10, charles <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: charles <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Just a crazy story
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, 23 February, 2010, 7:23


 



Indeed Belgium is a small country.
You don't have to travel to Thailand, there are many places in Belgium,
where the elektrosmog is very low.
Especially in the borden regions.

Along the autoroutes, in Belgium the masts are merely GSM1800, where in the
Netherlands the most part are GSM900, which harm more.

The TETRA, in Belgium called the Astrid network, is not so overwhelming as
in the Netherlands.

Electrosensitives should stay far away from magnets, even when they are
called, Bio.

Why don't you start healimng yourself, in stead of mocking?

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes. nl
www.milieuziektes. be
www.hetbitje. nl
checked by Norton

----- Original Message -----
From: "stephen_vandevijve re" <stephen_vandevijver [hidden email]>
To: <eSens@yahoogroups. com>
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 8:33 PM
Subject: [eSens] Just a crazy story









     

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Hi,

About Thailand, I don't think it has something to do with GEO-satellites.

I'm almost certain I'm feeling okey there because the high freq. EMF radiation there is better/less. The same thing must be true about Belgium.

I've once read somewhere that Thailand is one of the only quite modern countries that don't have 3G/UMTS (at least that was 2 years ago). Strange thing is that Belgium do has got 3G/UMTS (but maybe in a less stronger signal...).

Kooky: with me it's not linked with earth magnetism. The countries where I have also trouble (like France) are all closeby to Belgium...

greets,
Stephen.



--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote:

Hi Stephen,
 
Interesting story!  Can I come (from US) by canoe?  ;)  I amunable to fly due to anaphylaxis from pesticides--(all forms of transportation use pesticides).  I am hoping to bicycle to a jungle inBrazil someday, if the canoe doesn't work out.   lol
 
Thanks for sharing with us,
Diane


--- On Mon, 2/22/10, stephen_vandevijvere <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: stephen_vandevijvere <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Just a crazy story
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, February 22, 2010, 2:33 PM


 



Hi all,

I was not sure whether I should post this, because it is too absurd to be true, but whether I like it or not it is true and I think I should share it...

I'm 31 years old and I live in Belgium. Belgium is a small country in Europe, most known for its capital Brussels.

As a lot of people here I'm also sensitive to laptops, cellphones, cars,...the usual stuff ;)

But even more worryingly I'm hypersensitive for some high frequent EMF in:
the Netherlands, Germany, England and France (+ probably a lot of other countries)

If I visit these countries I get migraine and pain in my heart and within +/- 12 hours I really have to leave that country or I'll get something really serious. It's a bit worse in the cities but I even get sick when I'm in the middle of nowhere: in a hotel or just walking outside!

The only places where I have been fine the past 3 years are Belgium and Thailand.

But a few places in Belgium I can't stand neither, on the Belgian Coast forinstance, I used to live there, I got sick from the day they installed Wifi for free on the beach...

This is all the more strange as in other places in Belgium (like 99%) I canstand Wifi/cell phone masts for instance... And in Belgium we also have 3G/UMTS- access on most cellphone masts...

Knowing that I may have to move to Antarctica or some place where EMF is not advanced makes me sometimes very desperate. The only reason why I'm trying to be hopeful is that 3 years ago in the Netherlands, my symptoms were even worse than they are now... So it may be getting better because the effect of some things I shouldn't have tried 3 years ago (such as Bio-magnets, ...) have diminished.. .

Well this is more or less my crazy story... So far I've told this only to my brothers, sisters, parents and 2 friends...
Other people that know me simply don't understand why I don't go more on vacation abroad! ;)

Maybe there is an interesting tip for other sensitives, if you want to go on vacation with (probably) a lower emf-radiation, go to Belgium or Thailand;)

best regards,
Stephen.









     

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Hi Charles,

Yes maybe the problem could be what you're mentioning about the cellphone/GSM-frequency...

By the way, it's not like I'm pessimistic or I haven't tried to heal myself. The past 3 years I've done a lot to get better, and I'm still learning every day ;)

greets,
Stephen.


--- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@...> wrote:

Hi, Charles,
 
I didn't think what Stephen wrote was mocking!  What was it in the post which offended you, Dear? 
 
Btw, my nerves in my hand are starting to regenerate finally!  I am having less ES and phantom pain there, Charles!  (I have been wearing ruby zoisite and amazonite bracelets and I think they have helped my nerves grow some.)  Thanks for your insight on the phantom pain whenit was bad, Charles.  I appreciate you and your input.  (Still waiting on your health protocol, btw--I might beat you at putting mine out first, if you don't hurry!  lol  ;)  Just kidding you.)
 
Diane

--- On Mon, 2/22/10, charles <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: charles <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Just a crazy story
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, February 22, 2010, 3:23 PM


 



Indeed Belgium is a small country.
You don't have to travel to Thailand, there are many places in Belgium,
where the elektrosmog is very low.
Especially in the borden regions.

Along the autoroutes, in Belgium the masts are merely GSM1800, where in the
Netherlands the most part are GSM900, which harm more.

The TETRA, in Belgium called the Astrid network, is not so overwhelming as
in the Netherlands.

Electrosensitives should stay far away from magnets, even when they are
called, Bio.

Why don't you start healimng yourself, in stead of mocking?

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes. nl
www.milieuziektes. be
www.hetbitje. nl
checked by Norton

----- Original Message -----
From: "stephen_vandevijve re" <stephen_vandevijver [hidden email]>
To: <eSens@yahoogroups. com>
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 8:33 PM
Subject: [eSens] Just a crazy story









     

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Hi Kooky,

About your question,


> Lastly, do you have a reference about manganese
> and allergies?  I am low in manganese and suffer
> severe allergies and MCS.
 


I have one in Dutch!
 
http://www.infotalia.com/nld/in_balans/gezonde_voeding/mineralen/mineraal_detail.asp?id=285

"mangaan bevordert de genezing van enkele allergieën"
= manganese is good for curing allergies


I've been googling to find a source in English, on this page you find that among other vitamins/minerals manganese is mentioned as a "natural allergy relief":

http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art11767.asp

Well thanks,

Any ES-er is always welcome here, I live more or less in the forest and between farmers, so there's enough room to put up your tent here ;)


--- In [hidden email], Evie <evie15422@...> wrote:

LOL  Sounds wonderful, Stephen.  Looking for a sea-worthy canoe.......  j/k
 
Diane

--- On Mon, 2/22/10, stephen_vandevijvere <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: stephen_vandevijvere <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: Just a crazy story
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, February 22, 2010, 4:43 PM


 



Well thanks,

Any ES-er is always welcome here, I live more or less in the forest and between farmers, so there's enough room to put up your tent here ;)

--- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Evie <evie15422@. ..> wrote:








     

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I may have to move to a deserted island at some point so I know how you feel my friend. Thanks for your story Stephen!
 
Loni

--- On Mon, 2/22/10, stephen_vandevijvere <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: stephen_vandevijvere <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Just a crazy story
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, February 22, 2010, 12:33 PM


 



Hi all,

I was not sure whether I should post this, because it is too absurd to be true, but whether I like it or not it is true and I think I should share it...

I'm 31 years old and I live in Belgium. Belgium is a small country in Europe, most known for its capital Brussels.

As a lot of people here I'm also sensitive to laptops, cellphones, cars,...the usual stuff ;)

But even more worryingly I'm hypersensitive for some high frequent EMF in:
the Netherlands, Germany, England and France (+ probably a lot of other countries)

If I visit these countries I get migraine and pain in my heart and within +/- 12 hours I really have to leave that country or I'll get something really serious. It's a bit worse in the cities but I even get sick when I'm in the middle of nowhere: in a hotel or just walking outside!

The only places where I have been fine the past 3 years are Belgium and Thailand.

But a few places in Belgium I can't stand neither, on the Belgian Coast forinstance, I used to live there, I got sick from the day they installed Wifi for free on the beach...

This is all the more strange as in other places in Belgium (like 99%) I canstand Wifi/cell phone masts for instance... And in Belgium we also have 3G/UMTS- access on most cellphone masts...

Knowing that I may have to move to Antarctica or some place where EMF is not advanced makes me sometimes very desperate. The only reason why I'm trying to be hopeful is that 3 years ago in the Netherlands, my symptoms were even worse than they are now... So it may be getting better because the effect of some things I shouldn't have tried 3 years ago (such as Bio-magnets, ...) have diminished.. .

Well this is more or less my crazy story... So far I've told this only to my brothers, sisters, parents and 2 friends...
Other people that know me simply don't understand why I don't go more on vacation abroad! ;)

Maybe there is an interesting tip for other sensitives, if you want to go on vacation with (probably) a lower emf-radiation, go to Belgium or Thailand;)

best regards,
Stephen.









     

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I equal the sentiment. I cant imagine how things will be in the future withthis techology continually amplifying and multiplying, My feelings are that it will be trully truly bad. 
 
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--- On Tue, 23/2/10, Loni <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Loni <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Just a crazy story
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, 23 February, 2010, 10:28


 



I may have to move to a deserted island at some point so I know how you feel my friend. Thanks for your story Stephen!
 
Loni

--- On Mon, 2/22/10, stephen_vandevijver e <stephen_vandevijver [hidden email]> wrote:

From: stephen_vandevijver e <stephen_vandevijver [hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Just a crazy story
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, February 22, 2010, 12:33 PM

 

Hi all,

I was not sure whether I should post this, because it is too absurd to be true, but whether I like it or not it is true and I think I should share it...

I'm 31 years old and I live in Belgium. Belgium is a small country in Europe, most known for its capital Brussels.

As a lot of people here I'm also sensitive to laptops, cellphones, cars,...the usual stuff ;)

But even more worryingly I'm hypersensitive for some high frequent EMF in:
the Netherlands, Germany, England and France (+ probably a lot of other countries)

If I visit these countries I get migraine and pain in my heart and within +/- 12 hours I really have to leave that country or I'll get something really serious. It's a bit worse in the cities but I even get sick when I'm in the middle of nowhere: in a hotel or just walking outside!

The only places where I have been fine the past 3 years are Belgium and Thailand.

But a few places in Belgium I can't stand neither, on the Belgian Coast forinstance, I used to live there, I got sick from the day they installed Wifi for free on the beach...

This is all the more strange as in other places in Belgium (like 99%) I canstand Wifi/cell phone masts for instance... And in Belgium we also have 3G/UMTS- access on most cellphone masts...

Knowing that I may have to move to Antarctica or some place where EMF is not advanced makes me sometimes very desperate. The only reason why I'm trying to be hopeful is that 3 years ago in the Netherlands, my symptoms were even worse than they are now... So it may be getting better because the effect of some things I shouldn't have tried 3 years ago (such as Bio-magnets, ...) have diminished.. .

Well this is more or less my crazy story... So far I've told this only to my brothers, sisters, parents and 2 friends...
Other people that know me simply don't understand why I don't go more on vacation abroad! ;)

Maybe there is an interesting tip for other sensitives, if you want to go on vacation with (probably) a lower emf-radiation, go to Belgium or Thailand;)

best regards,
Stephen.

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Ya know that may be a common denominator because I believe I am low in maganese too.
Also molybdenum seems to be an important mineral; also low in. Loni

--- On Mon, 2/22/10, Kooky <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Kooky <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Just a crazy story
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, February 22, 2010, 1:08 PM


 




Stephen

I read about anoher whose symptoms improves
in Thailand too.

Could the earth magnetism be involved here?

Lastly, do you have a reference about manganese
and allergies?  I am low in manganese and suffer
severe allergies and MCS.

Thanks,

Kooky

--- On Mon, 2/22/10, ada iye <betty_starbuckle@ yahoo.co. uk> wrote:

From: ada iye <betty_starbuckle@ yahoo.co. uk>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Just a crazy story
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, February 22, 2010, 3:01 PM

 

Your story doesnt seem crazy at all. My symptoms got worse when I moved to the uk and my symptoms always invariably improve when I am inThailand as well.

 

A

--- On Tue, 23/2/10, stephen_vandevijver e <stephen_vandevijve r [hidden email]> wrote:

From: stephen_vandevijver e <stephen_vandevijve r [hidden email]>

Subject: [eSens] Just a crazy story

To: eSens@yahoogroups. com

Date: Tuesday, 23 February, 2010, 6:33

 

Hi all,

I was not sure whether I should post this, because it is too absurd to be true, but whether I like it or not it is true and I think I should share it...

I'm 31 years old and I live in Belgium. Belgium is a small country in Europe, most known for its capital Brussels.

As a lot of people here I'm also sensitive to laptops, cellphones, cars,...the usual stuff ;)

But even more worryingly I'm hypersensitive for some high frequent EMF in:

the Netherlands, Germany, England and France (+ probably a lot of other countries)

If I visit these countries I get migraine and pain in my heart and within +/- 12 hours I really have to leave that country or I'll get something really serious. It's a bit worse in the cities but I even get sick when I'm in the middle of nowhere: in a hotel or just walking outside!

The only places where I have been fine the past 3 years are Belgium and Thailand.

But a few places in Belgium I can't stand neither, on the Belgian Coast forinstance, I used to live there, I got sick from the day they installed Wifi for free on the beach...

This is all the more strange as in other places in Belgium (like 99%) I canstand Wifi/cell phone masts for instance... And in Belgium we also have 3G/UMTS- access on most cellphone masts...

Knowing that I may have to move to Antarctica or some place where EMF is not advanced makes me sometimes very desperate. The only reason why I'm trying to be hopeful is that 3 years ago in the Netherlands, my symptoms were even worse than they are now... So it may be getting better because the effect of some things I shouldn't have tried 3 years ago (such as Bio-magnets, ...) have diminished.. .

Well this is more or less my crazy story... So far I've told this only to my brothers, sisters, parents and 2 friends...

Other people that know me simply don't understand why I don't go more on vacation abroad! ;)

Maybe there is an interesting tip for other sensitives, if you want to go on vacation with (probably) a lower emf-radiation, go to Belgium or Thailand;)

best regards,

Stephen.

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>Why don't you start healimng yourself, in stead of mocking?
>Greetings,
>Charles Claessens
 
Don't understand that comment if you could elaborate Charles? Loni


--- On Mon, 2/22/10, charles <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: charles <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Just a crazy story
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, February 22, 2010, 1:23 PM


 



Indeed Belgium is a small country.
You don't have to travel to Thailand, there are many places in Belgium,
where the elektrosmog is very low.
Especially in the borden regions.

Along the autoroutes, in Belgium the masts are merely GSM1800, where in the
Netherlands the most part are GSM900, which harm more.

The TETRA, in Belgium called the Astrid network, is not so overwhelming as
in the Netherlands.

Electrosensitives should stay far away from magnets, even when they are
called, Bio.

member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes. nl
www.milieuziektes. be
www.hetbitje. nl
checked by Norton

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From: "stephen_vandevijve re" <stephen_vandevijver [hidden email]>
To: <eSens@yahoogroups. com>
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 8:33 PM
Subject: [eSens] Just a crazy story









     

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I'll go with you Diane. I can't fly either at this time. Wouldn't take the chance. Loni

--- On Mon, 2/22/10, Evie <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Evie <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Just a crazy story
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, February 22, 2010, 2:14 PM


 



Hi Stephen,
 
Interesting story!  Can I come (from US) by canoe?  ;)  I amunable to fly due to anaphylaxis from  pesticides- -(all forms of transportation use pesticides).  I am hoping to bicycle to a jungle in Brazil someday, if the canoe doesn't work out.   lol
 
Thanks for sharing with us,
Diane

--- On Mon, 2/22/10, stephen_vandevijver e <stephen_vandevijver [hidden email]> wrote:

From: stephen_vandevijver e <stephen_vandevijver [hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Just a crazy story
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, February 22, 2010, 2:33 PM

 

Hi all,

I was not sure whether I should post this, because it is too absurd to be true, but whether I like it or not it is true and I think I should share it...

I'm 31 years old and I live in Belgium. Belgium is a small country in Europe, most known for its capital Brussels.

As a lot of people here I'm also sensitive to laptops, cellphones, cars,...the usual stuff ;)

But even more worryingly I'm hypersensitive for some high frequent EMF in:
the Netherlands, Germany, England and France (+ probably a lot of other countries)

If I visit these countries I get migraine and pain in my heart and within +/- 12 hours I really have to leave that country or I'll get something really serious. It's a bit worse in the cities but I even get sick when I'm in the middle of nowhere: in a hotel or just walking outside!

The only places where I have been fine the past 3 years are Belgium and Thailand.

But a few places in Belgium I can't stand neither, on the Belgian Coast forinstance, I used to live there, I got sick from the day they installed Wifi for free on the beach...

This is all the more strange as in other places in Belgium (like 99%) I canstand Wifi/cell phone masts for instance... And in Belgium we also have 3G/UMTS- access on most cellphone masts...

Knowing that I may have to move to Antarctica or some place where EMF is not advanced makes me sometimes very desperate. The only reason why I'm trying to be hopeful is that 3 years ago in the Netherlands, my symptoms were even worse than they are now... So it may be getting better because the effect of some things I shouldn't have tried 3 years ago (such as Bio-magnets, ...) have diminished.. .

Well this is more or less my crazy story... So far I've told this only to my brothers, sisters, parents and 2 friends...
Other people that know me simply don't understand why I don't go more on vacation abroad! ;)

Maybe there is an interesting tip for other sensitives, if you want to go on vacation with (probably) a lower emf-radiation, go to Belgium or Thailand;)

best regards,
Stephen.

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Can I come too! haha  Loni

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From: stephen_vandevijvere <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: Just a crazy story
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Date: Monday, February 22, 2010, 2:43 PM


 



Well thanks,

Any ES-er is always welcome here, I live more or less in the forest and between farmers, so there's enough room to put up your tent here ;)

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Evie wrote:
> I am hoping to bicycle to a jungle in Brazil someday, if the canoe doesn't work out. lol
>

Hi Evie,
You're not the only one.

Stephen, have you traveled to South America? or New Zealand? or Australia?
Or have you really tried any places at least 8 Km from the cities and
visible towers?

With the one exception of Thailand, everywhere you mentioned is in Europe.


Maybe anyone else here could tell us their experience in traveling to
other countries. There must be somewhere we can hide from the modern
madness.

Stewart