Just a crazy story

>
> Thanks Diane!
>
> Yes, as the T-shirt says "Life if Good" and I believe God is Good so living life with from those perspectives helps to keep me in a healthy frame ofmind even if my body isn't so healthy. :)
>
> I know what you mean about not being able to post. Like everyone who hasEMS I have to limit my on-line time. For me I only read a fraction of theposts I receive and I choose by the Subject title. I like to read the posts from people who are just starting to try and figure things out and also subjects that I am struggling with at the moment. I save all the posts to a file so if I have something come up later I can look and see if there wasa string of posts that might help me out. I would like to think at some time I could review all the posts but know that will never be possible.
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> Thanks for all the insight you provide on your posts. Take care,
>
> Jennie  
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>  
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> ________________________________
> From: Evie <evie15422@...>
> To: [hidden email]
> Sent: Tue, February 23, 2010 2:17:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Just a crazy story
>
>  
> Hey, Jennie!
>  
> YESSSS, I so agree! People often think I am too flippant or silly, but lighten up! We have really heavy stuff to deal with in our lives. Find what you can laugh about and laugh! Btw, you are like.... my twin! I have been meaning to write you about some of your former posts, but I just don't have much time to post any more.  
>  
> My best regards,
> Diane
>
> --- On Mon, 2/22/10, Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net> wrote:
>
> From: Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Just a crazy story
> To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> Date: Monday, February 22, 2010, 10:54 PM
>
>  
>
> Stephen,
>
> I did not find your comments mocking. I think many of us have had the same thoughts as you. I am a person who tends to be very animated when I talk and write!! :) While I am a very responsible person I look at the positive and lighter side of life. And I think if I didn't temper handling the struggles that EMS, MCS and allergies have brought into my life with some humor I would end up being depressed or chemical dependent. Even though our livesare limited, they can still be full of joy and life!
>
> Take care and best of luck,
>
> Jennie
>
> :)
>
> ____________ _________ _________ __
> From: stephen_vandevijver e <stephen_vandevijve r [hidden email]>
> To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Mon, February 22, 2010 4:18:29 PM
> Subject: [eSens] Re: Just a crazy story
>
> Hi Charles,
>
> Yes maybe the problem could be what you're mentioning about the cellphone/GSM- frequency. ..
>
> By the way, it's not like I'm pessimistic or I haven't tried to heal myself. The past 3 years I've done a lot to get better, and I'm still learning every day ;)
>
> greets,
> Stephen.
>
> --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, "charles" <charles@ > wrote:
> >
> > Indeed Belgium is a small country.
> > You don't have to travel to Thailand, there are many places in Belgium,
> > where the elektrosmog is very low.
> > Especially in the borden regions.
> >
> > Along the autoroutes, in Belgium the masts are merely GSM1800, where inthe
> > Netherlands the most part are GSM900, which harm more.
> >
> > The TETRA, in Belgium called the Astrid network, is not so overwhelmingas
> > in the Netherlands.
> >
> > Electrosensitives should stay far away from magnets, even when they are
> > called, Bio.
> >
> > Why don't you start healimng yourself, in stead of mocking?
> >
> > Greetings,
> > Charles Claessens
> > member VerbandBaubiologie
> > www.milieuziektes. nl
> > www.milieuziektes. be
> > www.hetbitje. nl
> > checked by Norton
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "stephen_vandevijve re" <stephen_vandevijve re@>
> > To: <eSens@yahoogroups. com>
> > Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 8:33 PM
> > Subject: [eSens] Just a crazy story
> >
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I was not sure whether I should post this, because it is too absurd to be
> > > true, but whether I like it or not it is true and I think I should share
> > > it...
> > >
> > > I'm 31 years old and I live in Belgium. Belgium is a small country in
> > > Europe, most known for its capital Brussels.
> > >
> > > As a lot of people here I'm also sensitive to laptops, cellphones,
> > > cars,... the usual stuff ;)
> > >
> > > But even more worryingly I'm hypersensitive for some high frequent EMF in:
> > > the Netherlands, Germany, England and France (+ probably a lot of other
> > > countries)
> > >
> > > If I visit these countries I get migraine and pain in my heart and within
> > > +/- 12 hours I really have to leave that country or I'll get something
> > > really serious. It's a bit worse in the cities but I even get sick when
> > > I'm in the middle of nowhere: in a hotel or just walking outside!
> > >
> > > The only places where I have been fine the past 3 years are Belgium and
> > > Thailand.
> > >
> > > But a few places in Belgium I can't stand neither, on the Belgian Coast
> > > for instance, I used to live there, I got sick from the day they installed
> > > Wifi for free on the beach...
> > >
> > > This is all the more strange as in other places in Belgium (like 99%)I
> > > can stand Wifi/cell phone masts for instance... And in Belgium we also
> > > have 3G/UMTS- access on most cellphone masts...
> > >
> > > Knowing that I may have to move to Antarctica or some place where EMFis
> > > not advanced makes me sometimes very desperate. The only reason why I'm
> > > trying to be hopeful is that 3 years ago in the Netherlands, my symptoms
> > > were even worse than they are now... So it may be getting better because
> > > the effect of some things I shouldn't have tried 3 years ago (such as
> > > Bio-magnets, ...) have diminished.. .
> > >
> > > Well this is more or less my crazy story... So far I've told this only to
> > > my brothers, sisters, parents and 2 friends...
> > > Other people that know me simply don't understand why I don't go moreon
> > > vacation abroad! ;)
> > >
> > > Maybe there is an interesting tip for other sensitives, if you want to go
> > > on vacation with (probably) a lower emf-radiation, go to Belgium or
> > > Thailand ;)
> > >
> > > best regards,
> > > Stephen.
> > >
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> In a message dated 23/02/2010 19:45:44 GMT Standard Time,  
> stephen_vandevijvere@... writes:
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> Maybe she can tolerate 3G on 1900-2100 MHz but not on 850 MHz?
>
>
> PUK REPLIES - I fear that the UK will go for 3g 850mhz when the digital  
> switchover begins in 2012 and analogue goes down !!!!!!! Pulsed at this  
> frequncy may be nasty......
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> In a message dated 23/02/2010 17:01:36 GMT Standard Time,  
> stephen_vandevijvere@... writes:
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> > Have you tried metering or sheilding ?
>
> Hi Puk,
>
> No I'haven't metered anything because I know it is very low from some
> points I was in Netherlands or UK...
>
> It must be a specific type of signal I definitely can't stand...
>
> Shielding: once I wore a shielding shirt in the Netherlands, hard to say
> if it made a difference..S
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> PUK replies, what about takong a faraday net with you for sleeping in the  
> hotels ? mind you for me these tents canopies have to be very large as I am  
> perterbed by what I perceive as electrical feilds whne I am close to the
> fabric evan on the inside.
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> Puk, what do you mean with analogue goes down? 2G is digital already...
> But replacing 2G with 3G is not a good thing (in Japan it is already...).
>
> Here in Belgium we have 3G on 900 MHz and on 2100 MHz...
>
> Stephen.
>
>
>
> --- In [hidden email], paulpjc@... wrote:
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>> In a message dated 23/02/2010 19:45:44 GMT Standard Time,
>> stephen_vandevijvere@... writes:
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>> Maybe she can tolerate 3G on 1900-2100 MHz but not on 850 MHz?
>>
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>> PUK REPLIES - I fear that the UK will go for 3g 850mhz when the digital
>> switchover begins in 2012 and analogue goes down !!!!!!! Pulsed at this
>> frequncy may be nasty......
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> Puk, what do you mean with analogue goes down? 2G is digital already...
> But replacing 2G with 3G is not a good thing (in Japan it is already...).
>
> Here in Belgium we have 3G on 900 MHz and on 2100 MHz...
>
> Stephen.
>
>
>
> --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, paulpjc@... wrote:
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>> In a message dated 23/02/2010 19:45:44 GMT Standard Time,
>> stephen_vandevijver e@... writes:
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>> Maybe she can tolerate 3G on 1900-2100 MHz but not on 850 MHz?
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>> PUK REPLIES - I fear that the UK will go for 3g 850mhz when the digital
>> switchover begins in 2012 and analogue goes down !!!!!!! Pulsed at this
>> frequncy may be nasty......
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> From: Bill Bruno <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Oxytocin, aminos, and the amygdala (formerly Just a crazy story)
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Tuesday, February 23, 2010, 5:55 PM
> I just kind of blurted that stuff
> out...
> biology seems to always be more complicated.
> Like they say the ATM protein is used for double stranded
> break repair, but actually it regulates all kinds of other
> stuff
> and people without it have terrible balance, bloodshot
> eyes
> and poor immune systems.
>
> I'm actually trying to write a program to help get at
> these
> complexities...
>
> Bill
>
> On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 12:58 PM, Evie <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Hey, Bill,
> >
> > You are SOOOOO over simplifying. It is the love
> hormone, but also necessary
> > for many functions. That love hormone stuff is just a
> bunch of
> > over-sexualized clap-trap. I really respect you, Dear,
> for all your help and
> > knowledge on electrics, but you may need abit more
> work on your hormones. ;)
> > It is thought it may be implicated in autism, also. It
> is the hormone which
> > controls fear and trust in the amygdala. It is not
> always as easy as
> > cuddling--you have to first have the ability to make
> the hormone in your
> > body. This is usually not a problem, except in people
> who do not have enough
> > amino-acids. Meanwhile, where's my furry stuffed
> panda.....? ;)
> >
> > Be well,
> > Diane
> >
> >
> > --- On Tue, 2/23/10, Bill Bruno <[hidden email]
> <wbruno%40gmail.com>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > From: Bill Bruno <[hidden email]
> <wbruno%40gmail.com>>
> > > Subject: Re: [eSens] Oxytocin, aminos, and the
> amygdala (formerly Just a
> > crazy story)
> > > To: [hidden email]
> <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Date: Tuesday, February 23, 2010, 2:32 PM
> >
> > > oxytocin is the love hormone... best
> > > stimulated by physical contact with
> > > biological parent or child.  If not
> available, I don't
> > > know, maybe a furry
> > > pet?
> > > Bill
> > >
> > > On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Evie <[hidden email]<evie15422%40yahoo.com>
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi, Loni,
> > > >
> > > > Me too re molybdenum, but I assume that is
> due to
> > > being gf and not getting
> > > > it in my grains.  Yesterday was the
> first day in
> > > about 6 months I have had
> > > > time to do online searches and I have come
> up with
> > > some interesting stuff.
> > > > Unfortunately I have only a few minutes
> online today
> > > to share.
> > > >
> > > > I found a connection between the amygdala
> and oxytocin
> > > and oxytocin and
> > > > vasopressin.  (I have problems with
> vasopressin)
> > > and oxytocin and vaso. are
> > > > very closely related in their
> structure.  Both
> > > are amino-acid chains
> > > > (strands of 9 aminos) and only one amino
> acid
> > > difference between them.  I
> > > > found this an interesting and important
> clue.  I
> > > also know I have problems
> > > > with amino-acids and taking free-form amino
> complex is
> > > very helpful to me,
> > > > but it worked best when my one amazing doc
> was
> > > alive.  Never could figure
> > > > why things don't work as well when I appear
> to take
> > > the same supplements he
> > > > had me on, but I think I may have found out
> why.
> > > I also found proteolytic
> > > > (sp?) enzymes are needed to process these
> aminos into
> > > needed peptides, etc.
> > > > I was rather excited because that doc had me
> taking
> > > glandulars which could
> > > > have worked in that capacity.
> > > >
> > > > If the person who sent for cds to the doctor
> who put
> > > out the amygdala
> > > > training cds is reading, could you tell me
> whether the
> > > cds mention oxytocin
> > > > at all?  Oxytocin, as I found out, is a
> much more
> > > important hormone than we
> > > > have been led to believe.  But even
> more, it is
> > > interesting it is an
> > > > amino-acid chain.  For me personally,
> it has
> > > rather interesting
> > > > ramifications.  I mention this to you,
> Loni,
> > > because I believe you, me, and
> > > > Kooky were having an indepth discussion
> about
> > > free-form aminos several
> > > > months ago and you thought you needed them,
> too.
> > > >
> > > > My best to you,
> > > > Diane
> > > >
> > > > --- On Mon, 2/22/10, Loni <[hidden email]
> <loni326%40yahoo.com>
> > > <loni326%40yahoo.com>> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > From: Loni <[hidden email]
> <loni326%40yahoo.com>
> > > <loni326%40yahoo.com>>
> >
> > > > Subject: Re: [eSens] Just a crazy story
> > > > To: [hidden email]
> <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> >
> > > > Date: Monday, February 22, 2010, 6:35 PM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ya know that may be a common denominator
> because I
> > > believe I am low in
> > > > maganese too.
> > > > Also molybdenum seems to be an important
> mineral; also
> > > low in. Loni
> > > >
> > > > --- On Mon, 2/22/10, Kooky
> <furstc0404@yahoo.
> > > com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > From: Kooky <furstc0404@yahoo. com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [eSens] Just a crazy story
> > > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> > > > Date: Monday, February 22, 2010, 1:08 PM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Stephen
> > > >
> > > > I read about anoher whose symptoms improves
> > > > in Thailand too.
> > > >
> > > > Could the earth magnetism be involved here?
> > > >
> > > > Lastly, do you have a reference about
> manganese
> > > > and allergies?  I am low in manganese
> and suffer
> > > > severe allergies and MCS.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Kooky
> > > >
> > > > --- On Mon, 2/22/10, ada iye
> <betty_starbuckle@
> > > yahoo.co. uk> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > From: ada iye <betty_starbuckle@
> yahoo.co. uk>
> > > > Subject: Re: [eSens] Just a crazy story
> > > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> > > > Date: Monday, February 22, 2010, 3:01 PM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Your story doesnt seem crazy at all. My
> symptoms got
> > > worse when I moved to
> > > > the uk and my symptoms always invariably
> improve when
> > > I am inThailand as
> > > > well.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > A
> > > >
> > > > --- On Tue, 23/2/10, stephen_vandevijver e
> > > <stephen_vandevijve r
> > > > [hidden email]
> <e%40yahoo.com>
> > > <e%40yahoo.com>> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > From: stephen_vandevijver e
> <stephen_vandevijve r
> > > [hidden email]
> <e%40yahoo.com><e%40yahoo.com>
> >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Subject: [eSens] Just a crazy story
> > > >
> > > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> > > >
> > > > Date: Tuesday, 23 February, 2010, 6:33
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > I was not sure whether I should post this,
> because it
> > > is too absurd to be
> > > > true, but whether I like it or not it is
> true and I
> > > think I should share
> > > > it...
> > > >
> > > > I'm 31 years old and I live in Belgium.
> Belgium is a
> > > small country in
> > > > Europe, most known for its capital
> Brussels.
> > > >
> > > > As a lot of people here I'm also sensitive
> to laptops,
> > > cellphones, cars,...
> > > > the usual stuff ;)
> > > >
> > > > But even more worryingly I'm hypersensitive
> for some
> > > high frequent EMF in:
> > > >
> > > > the Netherlands, Germany, England and France
> (+
> > > probably a lot of other
> > > > countries)
> > > >
> > > > If I visit these countries I get migraine
> and pain in
> > > my heart and within
> > > > +/- 12 hours I really have to leave that
> country or
> > > I'll get something
> > > > really serious. It's a bit worse in the
> cities but I
> > > even get sick when I'm
> > > > in the middle of nowhere: in a hotel or just
> walking
> > > outside!
> > > >
> > > > The only places where I have been fine the
> past 3
> > > years are Belgium and
> > > > Thailand.
> > > >
> > > > But a few places in Belgium I can't stand
> neither, on
> > > the Belgian Coast for
> > > > instance, I used to live there, I got sick
> from the
> > > day they installed Wifi
> > > > for free on the beach...
> > > >
> > > > This is all the more strange as in other
> places in
> > > Belgium (like 99%) I can
> > > > stand Wifi/cell phone masts for instance...
> And in
> > > Belgium we also have
> > > > 3G/UMTS- access on most cellphone masts...
> > > >
> > > > Knowing that I may have to move to
> Antarctica or some
> > > place where EMF is
> > > > not advanced makes me sometimes very
> desperate. The
> > > only reason why I'm
> > > > trying to be hopeful is that 3 years ago in
> the
> > > Netherlands, my symptoms
> > > > were even worse than they are now... So it
> may be
> > > getting better because the
> > > > effect of some things I shouldn't have tried
> 3 years
> > > ago (such as
> > > > Bio-magnets, ...) have diminished.. .
> > > >
> > > > Well this is more or less my crazy story...
> So far
> > > I've told this only to
> > > > my brothers, sisters, parents and 2
> friends...
> > > >
> > > > Other people that know me simply don't
> understand why
> > > I don't go more on
> > > > vacation abroad! ;)
> > > >
> > > > Maybe there is an interesting tip for other
> > > sensitives, if you want to go
> > > > on vacation with (probably) a lower
> emf-radiation, go
> > > to Belgium or Thailand
> > > > ;)
> > > >
> > > > best regards,
> > > >
> > > > Stephen.
> > > >
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> Thanks Diane!
>
> Yes, as the T-shirt says "Life if Good" and I believe God is Good so living life with from those perspectives helps to keep me in a healthy frame ofmind even if my body isn't so healthy. :)
>
> I know what you mean about not being able to post. Like everyone who has EMS I have to limit my on-line time. For me I only read a fraction of the posts I receive and I choose by the Subject title. I like to read the posts from people who are just starting to try and figure things out and also subjects that I am struggling with at the moment. I save all the posts to a file so if I have something come up later I can look and see if there was a string of posts that might help me out. I would like to think at some time Icould review all the posts but know that will never be possible.
>
> Thanks for all the insight you provide on your posts. Take care,
>
> Jennie
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> From: Evie <evie15422@. ..>
> To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Tue, February 23, 2010 2:17:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Just a crazy story
>
>
> Hey, Jennie!
>
> YESSSS, I so agree! People often think I am too flippant or silly, but lighten up! We have really heavy stuff to deal with in our lives. Find what you can laugh about and laugh! Btw, you are like.... my twin! I have been meaning to write you about some of your former posts, but I just don't have much time to post any more.
>
> My best regards,
> Diane
>
> --- On Mon, 2/22/10, Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net> wrote:
>
> From: Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Just a crazy story
> To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> Date: Monday, February 22, 2010, 10:54 PM
>
>
>
> Stephen,
>
> I did not find your comments mocking. I think many of us have had the same thoughts as you. I am a person who tends to be very animated when I talk and write!! :) While I am a very responsible person I look at the positive and lighter side of life. And I think if I didn't temper handling the struggles that EMS, MCS and allergies have brought into my life with some humor I would end up being depressed or chemical dependent. Even though our livesare limited, they can still be full of joy and life!
>
> Take care and best of luck,
>
> Jennie
>
> :)
>
> ____________ _________ _________ __
> From: stephen_vandevijver e <stephen_vandevijve r [hidden email]>
> To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Mon, February 22, 2010 4:18:29 PM
> Subject: [eSens] Re: Just a crazy story
>
> Hi Charles,
>
> Yes maybe the problem could be what you're mentioning about the cellphone/GSM- frequency. ..
>
> By the way, it's not like I'm pessimistic or I haven't tried to heal myself. The past 3 years I've done a lot to get better, and I'm still learning every day ;)
>
> greets,
> Stephen.
>
> --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, "charles" <charles@ > wrote:
> >
> > Indeed Belgium is a small country.
> > You don't have to travel to Thailand, there are many places in Belgium,
> > where the elektrosmog is very low.
> > Especially in the borden regions.
> >
> > Along the autoroutes, in Belgium the masts are merely GSM1800, where inthe
> > Netherlands the most part are GSM900, which harm more.
> >
> > The TETRA, in Belgium called the Astrid network, is not so overwhelmingas
> > in the Netherlands.
> >
> > Electrosensitives should stay far away from magnets, even when they are
> > called, Bio.
> >
> > Why don't you start healimng yourself, in stead of mocking?
> >
> > Greetings,
> > Charles Claessens
> > member VerbandBaubiologie
> > www.milieuziektes. nl
> > www.milieuziektes. be
> > www.hetbitje. nl
> > checked by Norton
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "stephen_vandevijve re" <stephen_vandevijve re@>
> > To: <eSens@yahoogroups. com>
> > Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 8:33 PM
> > Subject: [eSens] Just a crazy story
> >
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I was not sure whether I should post this, because it is too absurd to be
> > > true, but whether I like it or not it is true and I think I should share
> > > it...
> > >
> > > I'm 31 years old and I live in Belgium. Belgium is a small country in
> > > Europe, most known for its capital Brussels.
> > >
> > > As a lot of people here I'm also sensitive to laptops, cellphones,
> > > cars,... the usual stuff ;)
> > >
> > > But even more worryingly I'm hypersensitive for some high frequent EMF in:
> > > the Netherlands, Germany, England and France (+ probably a lot of other
> > > countries)
> > >
> > > If I visit these countries I get migraine and pain in my heart and within
> > > +/- 12 hours I really have to leave that country or I'll get something
> > > really serious. It's a bit worse in the cities but I even get sick when
> > > I'm in the middle of nowhere: in a hotel or just walking outside!
> > >
> > > The only places where I have been fine the past 3 years are Belgium and
> > > Thailand.
> > >
> > > But a few places in Belgium I can't stand neither, on the Belgian Coast
> > > for instance, I used to live there, I got sick from the day they installed
> > > Wifi for free on the beach...
> > >
> > > This is all the more strange as in other places in Belgium (like 99%)I
> > > can stand Wifi/cell phone masts for instance... And in Belgium we also
> > > have 3G/UMTS- access on most cellphone masts...
> > >
> > > Knowing that I may have to move to Antarctica or some place where EMFis
> > > not advanced makes me sometimes very desperate. The only reason why I'm
> > > trying to be hopeful is that 3 years ago in the Netherlands, my symptoms
> > > were even worse than they are now... So it may be getting better because
> > > the effect of some things I shouldn't have tried 3 years ago (such as
> > > Bio-magnets, ...) have diminished.. .
> > >
> > > Well this is more or less my crazy story... So far I've told this only to
> > > my brothers, sisters, parents and 2 friends...
> > > Other people that know me simply don't understand why I don't go moreon
> > > vacation abroad! ;)
> > >
> > > Maybe there is an interesting tip for other sensitives, if you want to go
> > > on vacation with (probably) a lower emf-radiation, go to Belgium or
> > > Thailand ;)
> > >
> > > best regards,
> > > Stephen.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------ --------- --------- ------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

>
> In a message dated 24/02/2010 19:09:23 GMT Standard Time,
> [hidden email] writes:
>
>> Puk, what do you mean with analogue goes down? 2G is digital already...
>> But replacing 2G with 3G is not a good thing (in Japan it is
>> already...).
>>
>> Here in Belgium we have 3G on 900 MHz and on 2100 MHz...
>>
>> Stephen.
>>
>
>
>
> Puck replies -
> Between 2008- 2012, television services in the UK will go completely
> digital, TV region by TV region (The exception is Whitehaven in Cumbria
> which
> became the first place to switch in October 2007). The old analogue
> television signal will be switched off and viewers will need to convert or
> upgrade
> their TV equipment to receive digital signals, whether through their
> aerial,
> by satellite, cable or broadband.
> Once the country is digitised as Charles points out the old analogue TV
> and
> related broadcasting frequencies will be assimulated into the mobile and
> broadband use catagories.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

>
> Stephen,
>
> it seems that it is better to orient yourself about the technical stuff.
> Please have a look at my website where a lot is explained.
>
> In Belgium, 3G is NOT on 900 MHz, but only at 2110.3-2169.7 MHz as downlink,
> (and 1920.0-1979.7 MHz uplink).
>
> Greetings,
> Charles Claessens
> member Verband Baubiologie
> www.milieuziektes.nl
> www.milieuziektes.be
> www.hetbitje.nl
> checked by Norton
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <paulpjc@...>
> To: <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 11:20 AM
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Just a crazy story
>
>
> >
> > In a message dated 24/02/2010 19:09:23 GMT Standard Time,
> > charles@... writes:
> >
> >> Puk, what do you mean with analogue goes down? 2G is digital already...
> >> But replacing 2G with 3G is not a good thing (in Japan it is
> >> already...).
> >>
> >> Here in Belgium we have 3G on 900 MHz and on 2100 MHz...
> >>
> >> Stephen.
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > Puck replies -
> > Between 2008- 2012, television services in the UK will go completely
> > digital, TV region by TV region (The exception is Whitehaven in Cumbria
> > which
> > became the first place to switch in October 2007). The old analogue
> > television signal will be switched off and viewers will need to convertor
> > upgrade
> > their TV equipment to receive digital signals, whether through their
> > aerial,
> > by satellite, cable or broadband.
> > Once the country is digitised as Charles points out the old analogue TV
> > and
> > related broadcasting frequencies will be assimulated into the mobile and
> > broadband use catagories.
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

> Charles, yes, it will be interesting to check your website further, it's
> even in my mother tongue ;)
>
> For 3G in Belgium it is on 2100 MHz but also on 900 MHz!
>
> Since 2008, Proximus started...
>
> Sources...
>
> In Dutch:
> http://www.zdnet.be/itprofessional/105699/europa-volgt-belgie-met-3g-op-gsm-frequentie/
>
> In English (indirectly):
> http://www.ihsglobalinsight.com/SDA/SDADetail17402.htm
>
>
>
>
> --- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@...> wrote:
>>
>> Stephen,
>>
>> it seems that it is better to orient yourself about the technical stuff.
>> Please have a look at my website where a lot is explained.
>>
>> In Belgium, 3G is NOT on 900 MHz, but only at 2110.3-2169.7 MHz as
>> downlink,
>> (and 1920.0-1979.7 MHz uplink).
>>
>> Greetings,
>> Charles Claessens
>> member Verband Baubiologie
>> www.milieuziektes.nl
>> www.milieuziektes.be
>> www.hetbitje.nl
>> checked by Norton
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <paulpjc@...>
>> To: <[hidden email]>
>> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 11:20 AM
>> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Just a crazy story
>>
>>
>> >
>> > In a message dated 24/02/2010 19:09:23 GMT Standard Time,
>> > charles@... writes:
>> >
>> >> Puk, what do you mean with analogue goes down? 2G is digital
>> >> already...
>> >> But replacing 2G with 3G is not a good thing (in Japan it is
>> >> already...).
>> >>
>> >> Here in Belgium we have 3G on 900 MHz and on 2100 MHz...
>> >>
>> >> Stephen.
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Puck replies -
>> > Between 2008- 2012, television services in the UK will go completely
>> > digital, TV region by TV region (The exception is Whitehaven in
>> > Cumbria
>> > which
>> > became the first place to switch in October 2007). The old analogue
>> > television signal will be switched off and viewers will need to convert
>> > or
>> > upgrade
>> > their TV equipment to receive digital signals, whether through their
>> > aerial,
>> > by satellite, cable or broadband.
>> > Once the country is digitised as Charles points out the old analogue TV
>> > and
>> > related broadcasting frequencies will be assimulated into the mobile
>> > and
>> > broadband use catagories.
>> >
>> >
>> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------------
>> >
>> > Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

>
> I think there is a misconception here.
>
> No one uses the 900 MHz band so far for 3G.
>
> Yes, it is allowed, but not used till today.
> The official BIPT frequency plan only mentions GSM, not UMTS.
> Belgium is planning an auction for several frequency bands, among them also
> the 2.6 GHz band, but in my opinion, everybody is silently looking into the
> 700 MHz band.
> They also want a fourth provider.
>
> Greetings,
> Charles Claessens
> member Verband Baubiologie
> www.milieuziektes.nl
> www.milieuziektes.be
> www.hetbitje.nl
> checked by Norton
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "stephen_vandevijvere" <stephen_vandevijvere@...>
> To: <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 3:28 PM
> Subject: [eSens] Re: Just a crazy story
>
>
> > Charles, yes, it will be interesting to check your website further, it's
> > even in my mother tongue ;)
> >
> > For 3G in Belgium it is on 2100 MHz but also on 900 MHz!
> >
> > Since 2008, Proximus started...
> >
> > Sources...
> >
> > In Dutch:
> > http://www.zdnet.be/itprofessional/105699/europa-volgt-belgie-met-3g-op-gsm-frequentie/
> >
> > In English (indirectly):
> > http://www.ihsglobalinsight.com/SDA/SDADetail17402.htm
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@> wrote:
> >>
> >> Stephen,
> >>
> >> it seems that it is better to orient yourself about the technical stuff.
> >> Please have a look at my website where a lot is explained.
> >>
> >> In Belgium, 3G is NOT on 900 MHz, but only at 2110.3-2169.7 MHz as
> >> downlink,
> >> (and 1920.0-1979.7 MHz uplink).
> >>
> >> Greetings,
> >> Charles Claessens
> >> member Verband Baubiologie
> >> www.milieuziektes.nl
> >> www.milieuziektes.be
> >> www.hetbitje.nl
> >> checked by Norton
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: <paulpjc@>
> >> To: <[hidden email]>
> >> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 11:20 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Just a crazy story
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > In a message dated 24/02/2010 19:09:23 GMT Standard Time,
> >> > charles@ writes:
> >> >
> >> >> Puk, what do you mean with analogue goes down? 2G is digital
> >> >> already...
> >> >> But replacing 2G with 3G is not a good thing (in Japan it is
> >> >> already...).
> >> >>
> >> >> Here in Belgium we have 3G on 900 MHz and on 2100 MHz...
> >> >>
> >> >> Stephen.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Puck replies -
> >> > Between 2008- 2012, television services in the UK will go completely
> >> > digital, TV region by TV region (The exception is Whitehaven in
> >> > Cumbria
> >> > which
> >> > became the first place to switch in October 2007). The old analogue
> >> > television signal will be switched off and viewers will need to convert
> >> > or
> >> > upgrade
> >> > their TV equipment to receive digital signals, whether through their
> >> > aerial,
> >> > by satellite, cable or broadband.
> >> > Once the country is digitised as Charles points out the old analogueTV
> >> > and
> >> > related broadcasting frequencies will be assimulated into the mobile
> >> > and
> >> > broadband use catagories.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ------------------------------------
> >> >
> >> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

>
> > It is not the search function that is not working, but that we forget to
> > change the topic subject line as we are discussing posts. 
>
> Actually, there *have* been problems with the search function in YahooGroups.
> Incompetent programmers... but it's seems too late to move this group somewhere
> else just to get a properly working search.
>
> Marc
>