I'm desperate!

My husband committed me.I was handcuffed & humiliated.  Doesn't get this illness. Luckily the 3rd dr let me go before I was mandated heavy toxic drugs that would have killed me.
 
I can't live in this house. I need to find a way. Has anyone tried the window tint for shielding? Has anyone had any luck with any type of shielding against cell RF.
 
I was thinking of building an Adobe Wall in the back to block some of the anntennas.
 
I just don't know if anything will work.
 
 


     

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> I can't live in this house. I need to find a way. Has anyone tried the
> window tint for shielding? Has anyone had any luck with any type of
> shielding against cell RF.

Loni, I'm not clear on what things you've tried so far to combat the
cell tower RF. I know you've received many suggestions, but what
exactly have you tried?

That's terrible that your husband would have you committed. Although
if he stays that high-RF environment for long, he may end up being
electrically sensitive himself!

Marc

I am sorry this has happened and I told you this would happen. Get out
of there. Blocking the radiation will have minimal returns unless you
have a LOT of money to blow.
I agree that the psycho's in the psych ward will fry you with their
drugs.

The CIA motto is "Never Get Caught."
Your job is now to act cool and get out and away from the people who do
not trust you and will not support your efforts.

Cut your losses until you are well enough to deal in that environment
as a sane person.
This EMF crap causes insanity. I know first hand.

Dig an underground sleeping area if you have to.

good luck,
Andrew


On Aug 13, 2008, at 2:40 PM, Loni Rosser wrote:

I haven't tried anything just yet due to the expense. I wanted to live elsewhere but not feasible. I'm done with gadgits. I need to block this somehow.
 
My skin is burning & I have only been here for half hour. It's bad for me. there are soooo many cell anntennas on this major road. I just don't know if I can make it liveable.
 
I know Adobe block shields so I was thinking about building a wall maybe. Or even lining the back of the house with it. I don't know. Loni

--- On Wed, 8/13/08, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] I'm desperate!
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 12:06 PM






> I can't live in this house. I need to find a way. Has anyone tried the
> window tint for shielding? Has anyone had any luck with any type of
> shielding against cell RF.

Loni, I'm not clear on what things you've tried so far to combat the
cell tower RF. I know you've received many suggestions, but what
exactly have you tried?

That's terrible that your husband would have you committed. Although
if he stays that high-RF environment for long, he may end up being
electrically sensitive himself!

Marc
 














     

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I only have so much money & I have kids. Loni

--- On Wed, 8/13/08, Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] I'm desperate!
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 12:07 PM






I am sorry this has happened and I told you this would happen. Get out
of there. Blocking the radiation will have minimal returns unless you
have a LOT of money to blow.
I agree that the psycho's in the psych ward will fry you with their
drugs.

The CIA motto is "Never Get Caught."
Your job is now to act cool and get out and away from the people who do
not trust you and will not support your efforts.

Cut your losses until you are well enough to deal in that environment
as a sane person.
This EMF crap causes insanity. I know first hand.

Dig an underground sleeping area if you have to.

good luck,
Andrew

On Aug 13, 2008, at 2:40 PM, Loni Rosser wrote:

 














     

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First, that is plain ****** what you went through. This illness can be a nightmare from hell. 

There is a man named Charles Keen, he does EMF survey and Mitigation Services,  He does consulting for people with emf sensitivities and he may havesome practical ideas. He helped me a lot. This is his info:

Charles Keen
(941) 870-5432
Emf Services
15681 Sonoma Drive #201
Fort Myers, Florida 33908


zil


--- On Wed, 8/13/08, Loni Rosser <[hidden email]> wrote:
From: Loni Rosser <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] I'm desperate!
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 2:40 PM










   
My husband committed me.I was handcuffed & humiliated.  Doesn't get this illness. Luckily the 3rd dr let me go before I was mandated heavy toxic drugs that would have killed me.

 

I can't live in this house. I need to find a way. Has anyone tried the window tint for shielding? Has anyone had any luck with any type of shielding against cell RF.

 

I was thinking of building an Adobe Wall in the back to block some of the anntennas.

 

I just don't know if anything will work.

 

 



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Andrew, Have you tried anything before? I know if I try something & it doesn't work it will just be more proof to my husband that I am delusional. Loni

--- On Wed, 8/13/08, Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] I'm desperate!
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 12:07 PM






I am sorry this has happened and I told you this would happen. Get out
of there. Blocking the radiation will have minimal returns unless you
have a LOT of money to blow.
I agree that the psycho's in the psych ward will fry you with their
drugs.

The CIA motto is "Never Get Caught."
Your job is now to act cool and get out and away from the people who do
not trust you and will not support your efforts.

Cut your losses until you are well enough to deal in that environment
as a sane person.
This EMF crap causes insanity. I know first hand.

Dig an underground sleeping area if you have to.

good luck,
Andrew

On Aug 13, 2008, at 2:40 PM, Loni Rosser wrote:

 














     

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Loni,

That cell tower radiation flows like liquid and will find its way into
the house around one wall of shielding

Taking food and supplements that regenerate your cells and their
ability to handle the external radiation and poison in your system are
essential and will take time.

If you think you can live in the same place with the same people and
keep cool enough to not have another episode, then yes, shielding is
the way to go (in addition to supplements).

I personally don't think you are going to make it. I didn't.
I had to get out or I was going to kill someone.

If your spouse is not going to support you in this then it is time to
leave without him. Get better then come back and see if you can handle
it in the future.


Immediately:
Get some VERVAIN, a BACH flower essence and take it when you get angry
and before you are "losing it."

Get some liquid raw colostrum to get your immune system and resistance
up. Find a local source at
http://www.realmilk.com/where3.html

Get a Homeopathic Radiation remedy at Whole Foods or similar. It can
help too, a little.

Take frequent breaks and drive to the countryside and use a tent to
sleep in if necessary.

There are many other supplements that people on this list can recommend
to help you get through the worst of it, initially.
Ask the group for them if needed.
EDTA (Detoxamin suppositories) chelation has also helped but clogged up
my liver and kidneys.

You can drape some silver mesh over you to get the burn reduced.
Something like the SILVER LINING SCARF
http://www.lessemf.com/personal.html

I wore the cap from LESSEMF.COM for about 2 years. In fact I bought a
second one because I wore out the first one. I used to get very bad
headaches on the top of my head and the cap helped keep them away.

These are short term and cheap solutions.

You have a serious health condition. Ignore the idiots. Take care of
the immediate and short term. We can talk long term healing later.

Andrew







On Aug 13, 2008, at 3:12 PM, Loni Rosser wrote:

> Andrew, Have you tried anything before? I know if I try something & it
> doesn't work it will just be more proof to my husband that I am
> delusional.

I thought you already had someone come and do RF measurements,
which should have made the situation more believable to your
husband?

I'm sorry to hear you've given up on gadgets already, but it
really does require some trial & error to find one that'll
help. The expenses of this shouldn't be so bad if you limit
yourself to ones with money-back guarantees.

Marc

Ask my wife to substantiate this. My medicine cabinet takes up a
complete wall of the kitchen with overflow boxes full of stuff in the
laundry room and also bags of supplements and crap in the bathroom and
closet.
I have been avidly searching, experimenting and healing for 6 years
now. I am about 75% recovered.
Andrew
On Aug 13, 2008, at 3:33 PM, Loni Rosser wrote:

My husband called the Biologist that tested a quack. He also calls my doc aquack. Anyone that validated my illness is a quack. I'm so sick & have little money. no income. My situation is not to hopeful. Loni

--- On Wed, 8/13/08, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] I'm desperate!
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 12:39 PM






> Andrew, Have you tried anything before? I know if I try something & it
> doesn't work it will just be more proof to my husband that I am
> delusional.

I thought you already had someone come and do RF measurements,
which should have made the situation more believable to your
husband?

I'm sorry to hear you've given up on gadgets already, but it
really does require some trial & error to find one that'll
help. The expenses of this shouldn't be so bad if you limit
yourself to ones with money-back guarantees.

Marc
 














     

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> My husband called the Biologist that tested a quack. He also
> calls my doc a quack.

Yes, well, now that I think of it, my wife calls the people
I see for my health problems "quacks". The thing she doesn't
seem to understand is that these people actually have actually
helped, while "non-quack" doctors definitely made me worse.

Marc

Yes, that seems to be the ugly, hidden secret of people who
do recover from this. Lots and lots of supplements. It's
embarrassing how many shelves of supplements I have, and
most of them don't seem to have done any good...

Marc

On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:41:54 -0400, "Andrew McAfee" <[hidden email]> said:
> Ask my wife to substantiate this. My medicine cabinet takes up a
> complete wall of the kitchen with overflow boxes full of stuff in the
> laundry room and also bags of supplements and crap in the bathroom and
> closet.

I know I'll never be able to handle this level of radiation ever. That's why I want to try to reduce it but I think you are right. It's just too strong.
 
 I just want to be with my kids. This is awful.
 
what about aligning the back of the house with the adobe block & then usingthe shielding window tint on all of the windows?  The Adobe is supposed to block really well. I don't know the expense of it however.
 
The truth is I'm too weak & damaged to live outside too much longer. It is just too hard on me. I need shelter. That is why I am trying to figure out how to make my house liveable at least for part of the day. I'm grasping for hope I guess.
 
Where did you go Andrew when you got away? 
 
The other thing is my husband will probably have me committed again if I start spending all of this money on shielding. I couldn't sleep last night with the thought of that.
 
Boy did I make a mistake buying this home. Now I am really stuck. Loni

--- On Wed, 8/13/08, Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] I'm desperate!
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 12:38 PM






Loni,

That cell tower radiation flows like liquid and will find its way into
the house around one wall of shielding

Taking food and supplements that regenerate your cells and their
ability to handle the external radiation and poison in your system are
essential and will take time.

If you think you can live in the same place with the same people and
keep cool enough to not have another episode, then yes, shielding is
the way to go (in addition to supplements) .

I personally don't think you are going to make it. I didn't.
I had to get out or I was going to kill someone.

If your spouse is not going to support you in this then it is time to
leave without him. Get better then come back and see if you can handle
it in the future.

Immediately:
Get some VERVAIN, a BACH flower essence and take it when you get angry
and before you are "losing it."

Get some liquid raw colostrum to get your immune system and resistance
up. Find a local source at
http://www.realmilk .com/where3. html

Get a Homeopathic Radiation remedy at Whole Foods or similar. It can
help too, a little.

Take frequent breaks and drive to the countryside and use a tent to
sleep in if necessary.

There are many other supplements that people on this list can recommend
to help you get through the worst of it, initially.
Ask the group for them if needed.
EDTA (Detoxamin suppositories) chelation has also helped but clogged up
my liver and kidneys.

You can drape some silver mesh over you to get the burn reduced.
Something like the SILVER LINING SCARF
http://www.lessemf. com/personal. html

I wore the cap from LESSEMF.COM for about 2 years. In fact I bought a
second one because I wore out the first one. I used to get very bad
headaches on the top of my head and the cap helped keep them away.

These are short term and cheap solutions.

You have a serious health condition. Ignore the idiots. Take care of
the immediate and short term. We can talk long term healing later.

Andrew

On Aug 13, 2008, at 3:12 PM, Loni Rosser wrote:

 














     

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The problem I have is that I am still overexposed & worse so that's why. I haven't gotten better. I can't because of the cell antennas. Loni

--- On Wed, 8/13/08, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] I'm desperate!
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 12:46 PM






> My husband called the Biologist that tested a quack. He also
> calls my doc a quack.

Yes, well, now that I think of it, my wife calls the people
I see for my health problems "quacks". The thing she doesn't
seem to understand is that these people actually have actually
helped, while "non-quack" doctors definitely made me worse.

Marc

 














     

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I left a message, thank you Zil. Yes it is horrendous. The only thing good about it was that I had a roof over my head for a couple of days. I was exposed to air freshners & other cleaning chemicals that were bad. Loni

--- On Wed, 8/13/08, Elizabeth Mumper <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Elizabeth Mumper <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] I'm desperate!
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 12:21 PM






First, that is plain ****** what you went through. This illness can be a nightmare from hell. 

There is a man named Charles Keen, he does EMF survey and Mitigation Services,  He does consulting for people with emf sensitivities and he may havesome practical ideas. He helped me a lot. This is his info:

Charles Keen
(941) 870-5432
Emf Services
15681 Sonoma Drive #201
Fort Myers, Florida 33908

zil

--- On Wed, 8/13/08, Loni Rosser <loni326@yahoo. com> wrote:
From: Loni Rosser <loni326@yahoo. com>
Subject: [eSens] I'm desperate!
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 2:40 PM

My husband committed me.I was handcuffed & humiliated.  Doesn't get this illness. Luckily the 3rd dr let me go before I was mandated heavy toxic drugs that would have killed me.

 

I can't live in this house. I need to find a way. Has anyone tried the window tint for shielding? Has anyone had any luck with any type of shielding against cell RF.

 

I was thinking of building an Adobe Wall in the back to block some of the anntennas.

 

I just don't know if anything will work.

 

 

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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Does a tile roof block any of the RF? Loni

--- On Wed, 8/13/08, Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] I'm desperate!
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 12:38 PM






Loni,

That cell tower radiation flows like liquid and will find its way into
the house around one wall of shielding

Taking food and supplements that regenerate your cells and their
ability to handle the external radiation and poison in your system are
essential and will take time.

If you think you can live in the same place with the same people and
keep cool enough to not have another episode, then yes, shielding is
the way to go (in addition to supplements) .

I personally don't think you are going to make it. I didn't.
I had to get out or I was going to kill someone.

If your spouse is not going to support you in this then it is time to
leave without him. Get better then come back and see if you can handle
it in the future.

Immediately:
Get some VERVAIN, a BACH flower essence and take it when you get angry
and before you are "losing it."

Get some liquid raw colostrum to get your immune system and resistance
up. Find a local source at
http://www.realmilk .com/where3. html

Get a Homeopathic Radiation remedy at Whole Foods or similar. It can
help too, a little.

Take frequent breaks and drive to the countryside and use a tent to
sleep in if necessary.

There are many other supplements that people on this list can recommend
to help you get through the worst of it, initially.
Ask the group for them if needed.
EDTA (Detoxamin suppositories) chelation has also helped but clogged up
my liver and kidneys.

You can drape some silver mesh over you to get the burn reduced.
Something like the SILVER LINING SCARF
http://www.lessemf. com/personal. html

I wore the cap from LESSEMF.COM for about 2 years. In fact I bought a
second one because I wore out the first one. I used to get very bad
headaches on the top of my head and the cap helped keep them away.

These are short term and cheap solutions.

You have a serious health condition. Ignore the idiots. Take care of
the immediate and short term. We can talk long term healing later.

Andrew

On Aug 13, 2008, at 3:12 PM, Loni Rosser wrote:

 














     

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> Andrew, Have you tried anything before? I know if I try something & it
> doesn't work it will just be more proof to my husband that I am
> delusional. Loni

And of course, if you try something and it does work, then people will
say it is just a placebo effect. So they'll still think you are
delusional, but at least you'll be feeling better. :-)

I personally am not hopeful about a shielding solution this problem.
I'm more hopeful about nutrition (either dietary changes or supplements)
or "gadgets". But hopefully our shielding experts here can suggest
something that might help.

Marc

If something did work it would make everyone happy because I would be back in the home taking care of my family. Instead I sleep at the park, go from mall to movie theater to whereever trying to avoid cell radiation. This is no life. I need to do something. I just don't know what.
 
Loni

--- On Wed, 8/13/08, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] I'm desperate!
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 1:28 PM






> Andrew, Have you tried anything before? I know if I try something & it
> doesn't work it will just be more proof to my husband that I am
> delusional. Loni

And of course, if you try something and it does work, then people will
say it is just a placebo effect. So they'll still think you are
delusional, but at least you'll be feeling better. :-)

I personally am not hopeful about a shielding solution this problem.
I'm more hopeful about nutrition (either dietary changes or supplements)
or "gadgets". But hopefully our shielding experts here can suggest
something that might help.

Marc
 














     

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

The radiation is scary. I need to build me a fort made of Adobe.
 
Does anyone know what organ/organs are responsible for the elect sensitivities? My gut hurts so I think immune system. But liver too because my skin burns.
 
Loni

--- On Wed, 8/13/08, Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] I'm desperate!
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 12:38 PM






Loni,

That cell tower radiation flows like liquid and will find its way into
the house around one wall of shielding

Taking food and supplements that regenerate your cells and their
ability to handle the external radiation and poison in your system are
essential and will take time.

If you think you can live in the same place with the same people and
keep cool enough to not have another episode, then yes, shielding is
the way to go (in addition to supplements) .

I personally don't think you are going to make it. I didn't.
I had to get out or I was going to kill someone.

If your spouse is not going to support you in this then it is time to
leave without him. Get better then come back and see if you can handle
it in the future.

Immediately:
Get some VERVAIN, a BACH flower essence and take it when you get angry
and before you are "losing it."

Get some liquid raw colostrum to get your immune system and resistance
up. Find a local source at
http://www.realmilk .com/where3. html

Get a Homeopathic Radiation remedy at Whole Foods or similar. It can
help too, a little.

Take frequent breaks and drive to the countryside and use a tent to
sleep in if necessary.

There are many other supplements that people on this list can recommend
to help you get through the worst of it, initially.
Ask the group for them if needed.
EDTA (Detoxamin suppositories) chelation has also helped but clogged up
my liver and kidneys.

You can drape some silver mesh over you to get the burn reduced.
Something like the SILVER LINING SCARF
http://www.lessemf. com/personal. html

I wore the cap from LESSEMF.COM for about 2 years. In fact I bought a
second one because I wore out the first one. I used to get very bad
headaches on the top of my head and the cap helped keep them away.

These are short term and cheap solutions.

You have a serious health condition. Ignore the idiots. Take care of
the immediate and short term. We can talk long term healing later.

Andrew

On Aug 13, 2008, at 3:12 PM, Loni Rosser wrote:

 














     

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