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> The radiation is scary. I need to build me a fort made of Adobe.
Won't having a fort made of Adobe get you committed again? By the way, when one is committed for ES, what is the correct thing to tell the doctors? Do you tell them the truth about what's causing the problem, or do you make something up? It seems to me that if you want to get out of there, you should NOT tell the truth. > Does anyone know what organ/organs are responsible > for the elect sensitivities? I've had gut (stomach) problems after a detox mishap with an ionic foot problems. But usually I think you should focus on liver, thyroid, adrenal, and nervous system. Marc |
Probably would!
I told them the truth & they seemed to beleive me until they talked to my husband who told them how crazy I am. Then I was doomed. Loni --- On Wed, 8/13/08, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] I'm desperate! To: [hidden email] Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 2:04 PM > The radiation is scary. I need to build me a fort made of Adobe. Won't having a fort made of Adobe get you committed again? By the way, when one is committed for ES, what is the correct thing to tell the doctors? Do you tell them the truth about what's causing the problem, or do you make something up? It seems to me that if you want to get out of there, you should NOT tell the truth. > Does anyone know what organ/organs are responsible > for the elect sensitivities? I've had gut (stomach) problems after a detox mishap with an ionic foot problems. But usually I think you should focus on liver, thyroid, adrenal, and nervous system. Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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My gut used to hurt around RF radiation too.
I don't know if there is a single organ responsible. The kidney is usually associate with the electrical system. I shall be so arrogant as to try to say what is going on... The largest organ of the body, the skin, is also involved because it is the body's "last resort" in detoxing the body. I think it is a multi level syndrome stemming from either or both chemical and viral loads being agitated and exacerbated by EMF. Chicken and egg story for sure... being vaccine damaged from birth (mercury, pesticides, etc and viruses that cause fundamental weaknesses and susceptibility to this condition) we are predisposed to numerous illnesses. So when an overload occurs, that puts us over the edge for we are already full of toxins and laden with complex biowarfare generated organisms. Solution? Rebuild the immune system which is severely compromised (basic cell actions, negative and positive electron action is disrupted), repair DNA damage, remove heavy metals/toxins, and kill off the virus/bacteria that enjoy a cohabitation/existence with heavy metals and toxins. Where to start? Cleanse Colon so toxins won't get stuck on the way out. Start on Magnesium supplementation (usually depleted to an extreme amount) http://www.thenaturalremedyonline.com/Natural_Calm_s/2.htm which will help you stay "regular," plus Vit. D, as well as the usual C and E, etc... and essential fats (coconut oil, hemp oil, fish oil, and animal fats from good organic sources). Balance functions of liver and kidneys so they are compromised in your future detox action. The nerves are fried from mercury and pesticides and viruses. You don't want to dump more onto them doing a detox before your organs are ready. Having a low or diminished immune system, many infections will rise to the surface and take over the scene (Epstein-Barr or mono, Herpes, etc) There are many "stealth viruses" that operate below our immune system (by design) that we received from our lovely vaccine programs and attack our nervous system, brain, and organs. Get functioning first. Learn about the liver and what it needs to function well so when you are killing stuff and chelating, you don't crash your main filtering system. Here is a good product called Ultra Clear Plus (medical food) for supporting your liver. http://www.organic-pharmacy.com/Metagenics.UltraClearPlus.htm Phase 1 and phase 2 liver functions must be balanced. Supplement both actions. I could go on but you guys are probably very tired of all these emails today. all by best, Andrew On Aug 13, 2008, at 4:53 PM, Loni Rosser wrote: > The radiation is scary. I need to build me a fort made of Adobe. > > Does anyone know what organ/organs are responsible for the elect > sensitivities? My gut hurts so I think immune system. But liver too > because my skin burns. > > Loni > > --- On Wed, 8/13/08, Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> wrote: > > From: Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: [eSens] I'm desperate! > To: [hidden email] > Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 12:38 PM > > > > > > > Loni, > > That cell tower radiation flows like liquid and will find its way into > the house around one wall of shielding > > Taking food and supplements that regenerate your cells and their > ability to handle the external radiation and poison in your system are > essential and will take time. > > If you think you can live in the same place with the same people and > keep cool enough to not have another episode, then yes, shielding is > the way to go (in addition to supplements) . > > I personally don't think you are going to make it. I didn't. > I had to get out or I was going to kill someone. > > If your spouse is not going to support you in this then it is time to > leave without him. Get better then come back and see if you can handle > it in the future. > > Immediately: > Get some VERVAIN, a BACH flower essence and take it when you get angry > and before you are "losing it." > > Get some liquid raw colostrum to get your immune system and resistance > up. Find a local source at > http://www.realmilk .com/where3. html > > Get a Homeopathic Radiation remedy at Whole Foods or similar. It can > help too, a little. > > Take frequent breaks and drive to the countryside and use a tent to > sleep in if necessary. > > There are many other supplements that people on this list can recommend > to help you get through the worst of it, initially. > Ask the group for them if needed. > EDTA (Detoxamin suppositories) chelation has also helped but clogged up > my liver and kidneys. > > You can drape some silver mesh over you to get the burn reduced. > Something like the SILVER LINING SCARF > http://www.lessemf. com/personal. html > > I wore the cap from LESSEMF.COM for about 2 years. In fact I bought a > second one because I wore out the first one. I used to get very bad > headaches on the top of my head and the cap helped keep them away. > > These are short term and cheap solutions. > > You have a serious health condition. Ignore the idiots. Take care of > the immediate and short term. We can talk long term healing later. > > Andrew > > On Aug 13, 2008, at 3:12 PM, Loni Rosser wrote: > >> I haven't tried anything just yet due to the expense. I wanted to live >> elsewhere but not feasible. I'm done with gadgits. I need to block >> this somehow. >> >> My skin is burning & I have only been here for half hour. It's bad for >> me. there are soooo many cell anntennas on this major road. I just >> don't know if I can make it liveable. >> >> I know Adobe block shields so I was thinking about building a wall >> maybe. Or even lining the back of the house with it. I don't know. >> Loni >> >> --- On Wed, 8/13/08, Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com> wrote: >> >> From: Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com> >> Subject: Re: [eSens] I'm desperate! >> To: eSens@yahoogroups. com >> Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 12:06 PM >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> I can't live in this house. I need to find a way. Has anyone tried >>> the >>> window tint for shielding? Has anyone had any luck with any type of >>> shielding against cell RF. >> >> Loni, I'm not clear on what things you've tried so far to combat the >> cell tower RF. I know you've received many suggestions, but what >> exactly have you tried? >> >> That's terrible that your husband would have you committed. Although >> if he stays that high-RF environment for long, he may end up being >> electrically sensitive himself! >> >> Marc >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> ------------ --------- --------- ------ >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > |
Would a faraday cage help? I suffer cell phone radiation too. I just bought my home and took out a mortgage only to find out there's high radiation here. I am thinking about buying a faraday cage but I don't want to fork over $1000 to have it not work.
Does anyone else have experiences with faraday cages? Do they really block out RF radiation? --- On Wed, 8/13/08, Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] I'm desperate! To: [hidden email] Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 5:28 PM My gut used to hurt around RF radiation too. I don't know if there is a single organ responsible. The kidney is usually associate with the electrical system. I shall be so arrogant as to try to say what is going on... The largest organ of the body, the skin, is also involved because it is the body's "last resort" in detoxing the body. I think it is a multi level syndrome stemming from either or both chemical and viral loads being agitated and exacerbated by EMF. Chicken and egg story for sure... being vaccine damaged from birth (mercury, pesticides, etc and viruses that cause fundamental weaknesses and susceptibility to this condition) we are predisposed to numerous illnesses. So when an overload occurs, that puts us over the edge for we are already full of toxins and laden with complex biowarfare generated organisms. Solution? Rebuild the immune system which is severely compromised (basic cell actions, negative and positive electron action is disrupted), repair DNA damage, remove heavy metals/toxins, and kill off the virus/bacteria that enjoy a cohabitation/existence with heavy metals and toxins. Where to start? Cleanse Colon so toxins won't get stuck on the way out. Start on Magnesium supplementation (usually depleted to an extreme amount) http://www.thenaturalremedyonline.com/Natural_Calm_s/2.htm which will help you stay "regular," plus Vit. D, as well as the usual C and E, etc... and essential fats (coconut oil, hemp oil, fish oil, and animal fats from good organic sources). Balance functions of liver and kidneys so they are compromised in your future detox action. The nerves are fried from mercury and pesticides and viruses. You don't want to dump more onto them doing a detox before your organs are ready. Having a low or diminished immune system, many infections will rise to the surface and take over the scene (Epstein-Barr or mono, Herpes, etc) There are many "stealth viruses" that operate below our immune system (by design) that we received from our lovely vaccine programs and attack our nervous system, brain, and organs. Get functioning first. Learn about the liver and what it needs to function well so when you are killing stuff and chelating, you don't crash your main filtering system. Here is a good product called Ultra Clear Plus (medical food) for supporting your liver. http://www.organic-pharmacy.com/Metagenics.UltraClearPlus.htm Phase 1 and phase 2 liver functions must be balanced. Supplement both actions. I could go on but you guys are probably very tired of all these emails today. all by best, Andrew On Aug 13, 2008, at 4:53 PM, Loni Rosser wrote: > The radiation is scary. I need to build me a fort made of Adobe. > > Does anyone know what organ/organs are responsible for the elect > sensitivities? My gut hurts so I think immune system. But liver too > because my skin burns. > > Loni > > --- On Wed, 8/13/08, Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> wrote: > > From: Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: [eSens] I'm desperate! > To: [hidden email] > Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 12:38 PM > > > > > > > Loni, > > That cell tower radiation flows like liquid and will find its way into > the house around one wall of shielding > > Taking food and supplements that regenerate your cells and their > ability to handle the external radiation and poison in your system are > essential and will take time. > > If you think you can live in the same place with the same people and > keep cool enough to not have another episode, then yes, shielding is > the way to go (in addition to supplements) . > > I personally don't think you are going to make it. I didn't. > I had to get out or I was going to kill someone. > > If your spouse is not going to support you in this then it is time to > leave without him. Get better then come back and see if you can handle > it in the future. > > Immediately: > Get some VERVAIN, a BACH flower essence and take it when you get angry > and before you are "losing it." > > Get some liquid raw colostrum to get your immune system and resistance > up. Find a local source at > http://www.realmilk .com/where3. html > > Get a Homeopathic Radiation remedy at Whole Foods or similar. It can > help too, a little. > > Take frequent breaks and drive to the countryside and use a tent to > sleep in if necessary. > > There are many other supplements that people on this list can recommend > to help you get through the worst of it, initially. > Ask the group for them if needed. > EDTA (Detoxamin suppositories) chelation has also helped but clogged up > my liver and kidneys. > > You can drape some silver mesh over you to get the burn reduced. > Something like the SILVER LINING SCARF > http://www.lessemf. com/personal. html > > I wore the cap from LESSEMF.COM for about 2 years. In fact I bought a > second one because I wore out the first one. I used to get very bad > headaches on the top of my head and the cap helped keep them away. > > These are short term and cheap solutions. > > You have a serious health condition. Ignore the idiots. Take care of > the immediate and short term. We can talk long term healing later. > > Andrew > > On Aug 13, 2008, at 3:12 PM, Loni Rosser wrote: > >> I haven't tried anything just yet due to the expense. I wanted to >> elsewhere but not feasible. I'm done with gadgits. I need to block >> this somehow. >> >> My skin is burning & I have only been here for half hour. It's bad for >> me. there are soooo many cell anntennas on this major road. I just >> don't know if I can make it liveable. >> >> I know Adobe block shields so I was thinking about building a wall >> maybe. Or even lining the back of the house with it. I don't know. >> Loni >> >> --- On Wed, 8/13/08, Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com> wrote: >> >> From: Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com> >> Subject: Re: [eSens] I'm desperate! >> To: eSens@yahoogroups. com >> Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 12:06 PM >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> I can't live in this house. I need to find a way. Has anyone >>> the >>> window tint for shielding? Has anyone had any luck with any type of >>> shielding against cell RF. >> >> Loni, I'm not clear on what things you've tried so far to combat the >> cell tower RF. I know you've received many suggestions, but what >> exactly have you tried? >> >> That's terrible that your husband would have you committed. Although >> if he stays that high-RF environment for long, he may end up being >> electrically sensitive himself! >> >> Marc >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> ------------ --------- --------- ------ >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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And of course, if you try something and it does work, then people will say it is just a placebo effect. So they'll still think you are delusional, but at least you'll be feeling better. :-) Yes, of course. I get that too. Also, just last week three people told me all this "was all in my head". I wanted to smack the livin' crap out of them it made me so furious. **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 ) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Loni, I'm so sorry you are going through this. I really hope and pray your
husband starts to believe you and you find the help you so desperately need so you can stay with your children. Amy A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have. Thomas Jefferson In a message dated 8/13/2008 5:16:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [hidden email] writes: Probably would! I told them the truth & they seemed to beleive me until they talked to my husband who told them how crazy I am. Then I was doomed. Loni --- On Wed, 8/13/08, Marc Martin <_marc@ufoseries.mar_ (mailto:[hidden email]) > wrote: From: Marc Martin <_marc@ufoseries.mar_ (mailto:[hidden email]) > Subject: Re: [eSens] I'm desperate! To: _eSens@yahoogroups.eSe_ (mailto:[hidden email]) Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 2:04 PM > The radiation is scary. I need to build me a fort made of Adobe. Won't having a fort made of Adobe get you committed again? By the way, when one is committed for ES, what is the correct thing to tell the doctors? Do you tell them the truth about what's causing the problem, or do you make something up? It seems to me that if you want to get out of there, you should NOT tell the truth. > Does anyone know what organ/organs are responsible > for the elect sensitivities? I've had gut (stomach) problems after a detox mishap with an ionic foot problems. But usually I think you should focus on liver, thyroid, adrenal, and nervous system. Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 ) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Perhaps a good "come-back" to that would be to ask them about kids with
severe allergies to peanut butter. They look fine now. Do they have to eat peanut butter and go to the hospital to Prove the allergy exists? (Use an illustration that fits EM sensitivity by changing the allergy to one that is recognized.) Interestingly, I have had good success in telling the truth. I find more people that are sensitive that way. Stewart [hidden email] wrote: > [hidden email] writes: > > And of course, if you try something and it does work, then people will > say it is just a placebo effect. So they'll still think you are > delusional, but at least you'll be feeling better. :-) > > > Yes, of course. I get that too. Also, just last week three people told me > all this "was all in my head". I wanted to smack the livin' crap out of them it > made me so furious. > |
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The one I tried did not work for me. Loni
--- On Wed, 8/13/08, NO Name <[hidden email]> wrote: From: NO Name <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] I'm desperate! Faraday Cage?? To: [hidden email] Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 3:33 PM Would a faraday cage help? I suffer cell phone radiation too. I just bought my home and took out a mortgage only to find out there's high radiation here. I am thinking about buying a faraday cage but I don't want to fork over $1000 to have it not work. Does anyone else have experiences with faraday cages? Do they really block out RF radiation? --- On Wed, 8/13/08, Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@nc. rr.com> wrote: From: Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@nc. rr.com> Subject: Re: [eSens] I'm desperate! To: eSens@yahoogroups. com Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 5:28 PM My gut used to hurt around RF radiation too. I don't know if there is a single organ responsible. The kidney is usually associate with the electrical system. I shall be so arrogant as to try to say what is going on... The largest organ of the body, the skin, is also involved because it is the body's "last resort" in detoxing the body. I think it is a multi level syndrome stemming from either or both chemical and viral loads being agitated and exacerbated by EMF. Chicken and egg story for sure... being vaccine damaged from birth (mercury, pesticides, etc and viruses that cause fundamental weaknesses and susceptibility to this condition) we are predisposed to numerous illnesses. So when an overload occurs, that puts us over the edge for we are already full of toxins and laden with complex biowarfare generated organisms. Solution? Rebuild the immune system which is severely compromised (basic cell actions, negative and positive electron action is disrupted), repair DNA damage, remove heavy metals/toxins, and kill off the virus/bacteria that enjoy a cohabitation/ existence with heavy metals and toxins. Where to start? Cleanse Colon so toxins won't get stuck on the way out. Start on Magnesium supplementation (usually depleted to an extreme amount) http://www.thenatur alremedyonline. com/Natural_ Calm_s/2. htm which will help you stay "regular," plus Vit. D, as well as the usual C and E, etc... and essential fats (coconut oil, hemp oil, fish oil, and animal fats from good organic sources). Balance functions of liver and kidneys so they are compromised in your future detox action. The nerves are fried from mercury and pesticides and viruses. You don't want to dump more onto them doing a detox before your organs are ready. Having a low or diminished immune system, many infections will rise to the surface and take over the scene (Epstein-Barr or mono, Herpes, etc) There are many "stealth viruses" that operate below our immune system (by design) that we received from our lovely vaccine programs and attack our nervous system, brain, and organs. Get functioning first. Learn about the liver and what it needs to function well so when you are killing stuff and chelating, you don't crash your main filtering system. Here is a good product called Ultra Clear Plus (medical food) for supporting your liver. http://www.organic- pharmacy. com/Metagenics. UltraClearPlus. htm Phase 1 and phase 2 liver functions must be balanced. Supplement both actions. I could go on but you guys are probably very tired of all these emails today. all by best, Andrew On Aug 13, 2008, at 4:53 PM, Loni Rosser wrote: > The radiation is scary. I need to build me a fort made of Adobe. > > Does anyone know what organ/organs are responsible for the elect > sensitivities? My gut hurts so I think immune system. But liver too > because my skin burns. > > Loni > > --- On Wed, 8/13/08, Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@nc. rr.com> wrote: > > From: Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@nc. rr.com> > Subject: Re: [eSens] I'm desperate! > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 12:38 PM > > > > > > > Loni, > > That cell tower radiation flows like liquid and will find its way into > the house around one wall of shielding > > Taking food and supplements that regenerate your cells and their > ability to handle the external radiation and poison in your system are > essential and will take time. > > If you think you can live in the same place with the same people and > keep cool enough to not have another episode, then yes, shielding is > the way to go (in addition to supplements) . > > I personally don't think you are going to make it. I didn't. > I had to get out or I was going to kill someone. > > If your spouse is not going to support you in this then it is time to > leave without him. Get better then come back and see if you can handle > it in the future. > > Immediately: > Get some VERVAIN, a BACH flower essence and take it when you get angry > and before you are "losing it." > > Get some liquid raw colostrum to get your immune system and resistance > up. Find a local source at > http://www.realmilk .com/where3. html > > Get a Homeopathic Radiation remedy at Whole Foods or similar. It can > help too, a little. > > Take frequent breaks and drive to the countryside and use a tent to > sleep in if necessary. > > There are many other supplements that people on this list can recommend > to help you get through the worst of it, initially. > Ask the group for them if needed. > EDTA (Detoxamin suppositories) chelation has also helped but clogged up > my liver and kidneys. > > You can drape some silver mesh over you to get the burn reduced. > Something like the SILVER LINING SCARF > http://www.lessemf. com/personal. html > > I wore the cap from LESSEMF.COM for about 2 years. In fact I bought a > second one because I wore out the first one. I used to get very bad > headaches on the top of my head and the cap helped keep them away. > > These are short term and cheap solutions. > > You have a serious health condition. Ignore the idiots. Take care of > the immediate and short term. We can talk long term healing later. > > Andrew > > On Aug 13, 2008, at 3:12 PM, Loni Rosser wrote: > >> I haven't tried anything just yet due to the expense. I wanted to >> elsewhere but not feasible. I'm done with gadgits. I need to block >> this somehow. >> >> My skin is burning & I have only been here for half hour. It's bad for >> me. there are soooo many cell anntennas on this major road. I just >> don't know if I can make it liveable. >> >> I know Adobe block shields so I was thinking about building a wall >> maybe. Or even lining the back of the house with it. I don't know. >> Loni >> >> --- On Wed, 8/13/08, Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com> wrote: >> >> From: Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com> >> Subject: Re: [eSens] I'm desperate! >> To: eSens@yahoogroups. com >> Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 12:06 PM >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> I can't live in this house. I need to find a way. Has anyone >>> the >>> window tint for shielding? Has anyone had any luck with any type of >>> shielding against cell RF. >> >> Loni, I'm not clear on what things you've tried so far to combat the >> cell tower RF. I know you've received many suggestions, but what >> exactly have you tried? >> >> That's terrible that your husband would have you committed. Although >> if he stays that high-RF environment for long, he may end up being >> electrically sensitive himself! >> >> Marc >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> ------------ --------- --------- ------ >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
It's probably cheaper to shield walls and windows with foil and metal
screens. You may also have various frequencies on you wires, and a faraday cage will not block the magnetic component. Sometimes sleeping in a different part of the house will help, or away from walls with outlets. Bill On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 8:44 PM, Loni Rosser <[hidden email]> wrote: > The one I tried did not work for me. Loni > > --- On Wed, 8/13/08, NO Name <[hidden email] <nnc200%40yahoo.com>> > wrote: > > From: NO Name <[hidden email] <nnc200%40yahoo.com>> > Subject: Re: [eSens] I'm desperate! Faraday Cage?? > To: [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com> > Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 3:33 PM > > > Would a faraday cage help? I suffer cell phone radiation too. I just > bought my home and took out a mortgage only to find out there's high > radiation here. I am thinking about buying a faraday cage but I don't want > to fork over $1000 to have it not work. > > Does anyone else have experiences with faraday cages? Do they really block > out RF radiation? > > > > --- On Wed, 8/13/08, Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@nc. rr.com> wrote: > > From: Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@nc. rr.com> > Subject: Re: [eSens] I'm desperate! > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 5:28 PM > > My gut used to hurt around RF radiation too. > > I don't know if there is a single organ responsible. The kidney is > usually associate with the electrical system. I shall be so arrogant as > to try to say what is going on... > The largest organ of the body, the skin, is also involved because it is > the body's "last resort" in detoxing the body. > > I think it is a multi level syndrome stemming from either or both > chemical and viral loads being agitated and exacerbated by EMF. > > Chicken and egg story for sure... being vaccine damaged from birth > (mercury, pesticides, etc and viruses that cause fundamental weaknesses > and susceptibility to this condition) we are predisposed to numerous > illnesses. > > So when an overload occurs, that puts us over the edge for we are > already full of toxins and laden with complex biowarfare generated > organisms. > > Solution? > > Rebuild the immune system which is severely compromised (basic cell > actions, negative and positive electron action is disrupted), repair > DNA damage, remove heavy metals/toxins, and kill off the virus/bacteria > that enjoy a cohabitation/ existence with heavy metals and toxins. > > Where to start? > > Cleanse Colon so toxins won't get stuck on the way out. Start on > Magnesium supplementation (usually depleted to an extreme amount) > http://www.thenatur alremedyonline. com/Natural_ Calm_s/2. htm > > which will help you stay "regular," plus Vit. D, as well as the usual > C > and E, etc... and essential fats (coconut oil, hemp oil, fish oil, and > animal fats from good organic sources). > > Balance functions of liver and kidneys so they are compromised in your > future detox action. > The nerves are fried from mercury and pesticides and viruses. You don't > want to dump more onto them doing a detox before your organs are ready. > > Having a low or diminished immune system, many infections will rise to > the surface and take over the scene (Epstein-Barr or mono, Herpes, etc) > There are many "stealth viruses" that operate below our immune system > > (by design) that we received from our lovely vaccine programs and > attack our nervous system, brain, and organs. > > Get functioning first. > > Learn about the liver and what it needs to function well so when you > are killing stuff and chelating, you don't crash your main filtering > system. > > Here is a good product called Ultra Clear Plus (medical food) for > supporting your liver. > http://www.organic- pharmacy. com/Metagenics. UltraClearPlus. htm > > Phase 1 and phase 2 liver functions must be balanced. Supplement both > actions. > > I could go on but you guys are probably very tired of all these emails > today. > > all by best, > Andrew > > On Aug 13, 2008, at 4:53 PM, Loni Rosser wrote: > > > The radiation is scary. I need to build me a fort made of Adobe. > > > > Does anyone know what organ/organs are responsible for the elect > > sensitivities? My gut hurts so I think immune system. But liver too > > because my skin burns. > > > > Loni > > > > --- On Wed, 8/13/08, Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@nc. rr.com> wrote: > > > > From: Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@nc. rr.com> > > Subject: Re: [eSens] I'm desperate! > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > > Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 12:38 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Loni, > > > > That cell tower radiation flows like liquid and will find its way into > > the house around one wall of shielding > > > > Taking food and supplements that regenerate your cells and their > > ability to handle the external radiation and poison in your system are > > essential and will take time. > > > > If you think you can live in the same place with the same people and > > keep cool enough to not have another episode, then yes, shielding is > > the way to go (in addition to supplements) . > > > > I personally don't think you are going to make it. I didn't. > > I had to get out or I was going to kill someone. > > > > If your spouse is not going to support you in this then it is time to > > leave without him. Get better then come back and see if you can handle > > it in the future. > > > > Immediately: > > Get some VERVAIN, a BACH flower essence and take it when you get angry > > and before you are "losing it." > > > > Get some liquid raw colostrum to get your immune system and resistance > > up. Find a local source at > > http://www.realmilk .com/where3. html > > > > Get a Homeopathic Radiation remedy at Whole Foods or similar. It can > > help too, a little. > > > > Take frequent breaks and drive to the countryside and use a tent to > > sleep in if necessary. > > > > There are many other supplements that people on this list can recommend > > to help you get through the worst of it, initially. > > Ask the group for them if needed. > > EDTA (Detoxamin suppositories) chelation has also helped but clogged up > > my liver and kidneys. > > > > You can drape some silver mesh over you to get the burn reduced. > > Something like the SILVER LINING SCARF > > http://www.lessemf. com/personal. html > > > > I wore the cap from LESSEMF.COM for about 2 years. In fact I bought a > > second one because I wore out the first one. I used to get very bad > > headaches on the top of my head and the cap helped keep them away. > > > > These are short term and cheap solutions. > > > > You have a serious health condition. Ignore the idiots. Take care of > > the immediate and short term. We can talk long term healing later. > > > > Andrew > > > > On Aug 13, 2008, at 3:12 PM, Loni Rosser wrote: > > > >> I haven't tried anything just yet due to the expense. I wanted to > live > >> elsewhere but not feasible. I'm done with gadgits. I need to block > >> this somehow. > >> > >> My skin is burning & I have only been here for half hour. It's > bad for > >> me. there are soooo many cell anntennas on this major road. I just > >> don't know if I can make it liveable. > >> > >> I know Adobe block shields so I was thinking about building a wall > >> maybe. Or even lining the back of the house with it. I don't know. > >> Loni > >> > >> --- On Wed, 8/13/08, Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com> wrote: > >> > >> From: Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com> > >> Subject: Re: [eSens] I'm desperate! > >> To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > >> Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 12:06 PM > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>> I can't live in this house. I need to find a way. Has anyone > tried > >>> the > >>> window tint for shielding? Has anyone had any luck with any type > of > >>> shielding against cell RF. > >> > >> Loni, I'm not clear on what things you've tried so far to > combat the > >> cell tower RF. I know you've received many suggestions, but what > >> exactly have you tried? > >> > >> That's terrible that your husband would have you committed. > Although > >> if he stays that high-RF environment for long, he may end up being > >> electrically sensitive himself! > >> > >> Marc > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> > >> > >> ------------ --------- --------- ------ > >> > >> Yahoo! Groups Links > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Adobe will absorb microwaves... so will brick, cinder block...
Adobe is pretty labor intense. Cinder block is probably a lot cheaper, and if you have it covered with chicken wire and stucco, will probably work just as well. Try to get the wall about a foot taller than you think you need. Unfortunately building codes may limit the height. Metal fence may be easier and cheaper. I think regular chain link is not too bad. Slightly smaller holes, and shiny bare metal could improve it. Or, just have "hardware cloth" metal fence added to one side. Note if there is a radio or TV tower, that is longer wavelength and harder to block with a fence because it will come over and diffract down. In that case try painting a room and ceiling with shielding paint and/or foil. Try turning off breakers too. Any low-E (low emissivity) window tint may work. For sure ScotchTint Amber metallic works: blocks 99.9 percent even with the lighter 50 percent grade (I think it's discontinued, but a dealer may still be able to get some... lessEMF sells it by the roll I think too). Bill On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 2:53 PM, Loni Rosser <[hidden email]> wrote: > The radiation is scary. I need to build me a fort made of Adobe. > > Does anyone know what organ/organs are responsible for the elect > sensitivities? My gut hurts so I think immune system. But liver too because > my skin burns. > > Loni > > --- On Wed, 8/13/08, Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]<amcafeerr%40nc.rr.com>> > wrote: > > From: Andrew McAfee <[hidden email] <amcafeerr%40nc.rr.com>> > Subject: Re: [eSens] I'm desperate! > To: [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com> > Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 12:38 PM > > > Loni, > > That cell tower radiation flows like liquid and will find its way into > the house around one wall of shielding > > Taking food and supplements that regenerate your cells and their > ability to handle the external radiation and poison in your system are > essential and will take time. > > If you think you can live in the same place with the same people and > keep cool enough to not have another episode, then yes, shielding is > the way to go (in addition to supplements) . > > I personally don't think you are going to make it. I didn't. > I had to get out or I was going to kill someone. > > If your spouse is not going to support you in this then it is time to > leave without him. Get better then come back and see if you can handle > it in the future. > > Immediately: > Get some VERVAIN, a BACH flower essence and take it when you get angry > and before you are "losing it." > > Get some liquid raw colostrum to get your immune system and resistance > up. Find a local source at > http://www.realmilk .com/where3. html > > Get a Homeopathic Radiation remedy at Whole Foods or similar. It can > help too, a little. > > Take frequent breaks and drive to the countryside and use a tent to > sleep in if necessary. > > There are many other supplements that people on this list can recommend > to help you get through the worst of it, initially. > Ask the group for them if needed. > EDTA (Detoxamin suppositories) chelation has also helped but clogged up > my liver and kidneys. > > You can drape some silver mesh over you to get the burn reduced. > Something like the SILVER LINING SCARF > http://www.lessemf. com/personal. html > > I wore the cap from LESSEMF.COM for about 2 years. In fact I bought a > second one because I wore out the first one. I used to get very bad > headaches on the top of my head and the cap helped keep them away. > > These are short term and cheap solutions. > > You have a serious health condition. Ignore the idiots. Take care of > the immediate and short term. We can talk long term healing later. > > Andrew > > On Aug 13, 2008, at 3:12 PM, Loni Rosser wrote: > > > I haven't tried anything just yet due to the expense. I wanted to live > > elsewhere but not feasible. I'm done with gadgits. I need to block > > this somehow. > > > > My skin is burning & I have only been here for half hour. It's bad for > > me. there are soooo many cell anntennas on this major road. I just > > don't know if I can make it liveable. > > > > I know Adobe block shields so I was thinking about building a wall > > maybe. Or even lining the back of the house with it. I don't know. > > Loni > > > > --- On Wed, 8/13/08, Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com> wrote: > > > > From: Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com> > > Subject: Re: [eSens] I'm desperate! > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > > Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 12:06 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I can't live in this house. I need to find a way. Has anyone tried the > >> window tint for shielding? Has anyone had any luck with any type of > >> shielding against cell RF. > > > > Loni, I'm not clear on what things you've tried so far to combat the > > cell tower RF. I know you've received many suggestions, but what > > exactly have you tried? > > > > That's terrible that your husband would have you committed. Although > > if he stays that high-RF environment for long, he may end up being > > electrically sensitive himself! > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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In a message dated 8/13/2008 9:41:34 P.M. GMT Daylight Time, [hidden email] writes: If something did work it would make everyone happy because I would be back in the home taking care of my family. Instead I sleep at the park, go from mall to movie theater to whereever trying to avoid cell radiation. This is no life. I need to do something. I just don't know what. Loni Ultimately you need to get some space away from the the EMR overload that you are experiencing. Are there any communes that you could go to for a few weeks, to try to reduce you symptoms and get your head back together. PUK [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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>> Andrew, Have you tried anything before? I know if I try something & it
>> doesn't work it will just be more proof to my husband that I am >> delusional. Loni Loni, You don't have to re-invent the wheel. People have been sucessfully shielding RF for a long time. No doubt, you need an RF meter to start, otherwise you will have no idea what you are working with. For a very low cost indoor solution, without the problems of reflection, grounding, and stringent leakage control, use a microwave absorber material such as this one: http://www.lessemf.com/fabric.html#259 Simply line the walls of your favorite room, or create a barrier of smaller size if you need to. You cannot make a garment with this material, but it is very lightweight and easy to cut and hang. No grounding is necessary. Emil |
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sorry to hear about your situation Loni,
like the others have said, reduced exposure is the number one priority, with an attempt to rebuild up the immune system also needed. as regards the latter, i have been trying various supplements over the last few months and have found some better than others. you should probably try and find a good naturopath/herbalist and see if they can advise on herbs specific for your body. i started trying out herbs at the start of the summer; i didn't have the money to go and see a naturopath, so i did some of my own research, which probably wasn't the ideal scenario, as it can be pretty hit and miss as others have stated. like people have advised on this list before, i have cut out processed food. i also began doing food combining/the Hay diet. this is where protein foods are kept apart from starch foods at meals, so it mostly meant keeping meat and grains separate (the Hay Diet can be easily googled). over the last month i have found my situation improving somewhat, though still along way from being healed. whether that is down to the eating of natural food, the food combining, or my current herbal/supplement intake i do not know. my gut also gets agitated when exposed to emfs at times, but even that has eased abit. i will list the supplements i now take and the specific areas of the body they target (at least what i came across stated in research), but like others have said, everyones system is different, and there can be risks in taking some herbal supplements (selenium, which i started taking, can be toxic in large doses). : B vitamin complex; Combination F tissue salts (helps nervous system); selenium (good antioxidant); milk thistle tincture (helps liver detox); Ashwaganda & Rhodiola Rosea (helps adrenal glands). i also take green tea, which is meant to be a good antioxidant. the rebuilding of the bodys system can take along time Loni, but eating natural, organic foods, as well as supporting the digestive systema and immune system can only help. hope your situation improves soon, sean --- In [hidden email], Loni Rosser <loni326@...> wrote: > > Probably would! > > I told them the truth & they seemed to beleive me until they talked to my husband who told them how crazy I am. Then I was doomed. Loni > > --- On Wed, 8/13/08, Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote: > > From: Marc Martin <marc@...> > Subject: Re: [eSens] I'm desperate! > To: [hidden email] > Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 2:04 PM > > > > > > > > The radiation is scary. I need to build me a fort made of Adobe. > > Won't having a fort made of Adobe get you committed again? > > By the way, when one is committed for ES, what is the > correct thing to tell the doctors? Do you tell them > the truth about what's causing the problem, or do you > make something up? It seems to me that if you want > to get out of there, you should NOT tell the truth. > > > Does anyone know what organ/organs are responsible > > for the elect sensitivities? > > I've had gut (stomach) problems after a detox mishap > with an ionic foot problems. But usually I think > you should focus on liver, thyroid, adrenal, and > nervous system. > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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Thanks Amy but Gary will never believe me. He is stuck on this being a delusion. Loni
--- On Wed, 8/13/08, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote: From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] I'm desperate! To: [hidden email] Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 6:09 PM Loni, I'm so sorry you are going through this. I really hope and pray your husband starts to believe you and you find the help you so desperately needso you can stay with your children. Amy A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have. Thomas Jefferson In a message dated 8/13/2008 5:16:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, loni326@yahoo. com writes: Probably would! I told them the truth & they seemed to beleive me until they talked to my husband who told them how crazy I am. Then I was doomed. Loni --- On Wed, 8/13/08, Marc Martin <_marc@ufoseries. mar_ (mailto:marc@ufoseries. com) > wrote: From: Marc Martin <_marc@ufoseries. mar_ (mailto:marc@ufoseries. com) > Subject: Re: [eSens] I'm desperate! To: _eSens@yahoogroups. eSe_ (mailto:eSens@yahoogroups. com) Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 2:04 PM > The radiation is scary. I need to build me a fort made of Adobe. Won't having a fort made of Adobe get you committed again? By the way, when one is committed for ES, what is the correct thing to tell the doctors? Do you tell them the truth about what's causing the problem, or do you make something up? It seems to me that if you want to get out of there, you should NOT tell the truth. > Does anyone know what organ/organs are responsible > for the elect sensitivities? I've had gut (stomach) problems after a detox mishap with an ionic foot problems. But usually I think you should focus on liver, thyroid, adrenal, and nervous system. Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ************ **Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos. aol.com/cars- BMW-128-2008/ expert-review? ncid=aolaut00050 000000017 ) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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I can go up north & camp. Shelters are too toxic for me. Loni
--- On Thu, 8/14/08, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote: From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] I'm desperate! To: [hidden email] Date: Thursday, August 14, 2008, 4:11 AM In a message dated 8/13/2008 9:41:34 P.M. GMT Daylight Time, loni326@yahoo. com writes: If something did work it would make everyone happy because I would be back in the home taking care of my family. Instead I sleep at the park, go from mall to movie theater to whereever trying to avoid cell radiation. This is no life. I need to do something. I just don't know what. Loni Ultimately you need to get some space away from the the EMR overload that you are experiencing. Are there any communes that you could go to for a few weeks, to try to reduce you symptoms and get your head back together. PUK [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Thanks Sean. I have to find a less stressful place to live first. I cannot even think when I am in this house let alone take care of myself. It's horrible. Loni
--- On Thu, 8/14/08, seandaly33 <[hidden email]> wrote: From: seandaly33 <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] Re: I'm desperate! To: [hidden email] Date: Thursday, August 14, 2008, 10:49 AM sorry to hear about your situation Loni, like the others have said, reduced exposure is the number one priority, with an attempt to rebuild up the immune system also needed. as regards the latter, i have been trying various supplements over the last few months and have found some better than others. you should probably try and find a good naturopath/herbalis t and see if they can advise on herbs specific for your body. i started trying out herbs at the start of the summer; i didn't have the money to go and see a naturopath, so i did some of my own research, which probably wasn't the ideal scenario, as it can be pretty hit and miss as others have stated. like people have advised on this list before, i have cut out processed food. i also began doing food combining/the Hay diet. this is where protein foods are kept apart from starch foods at meals, so it mostly meant keeping meat and grains separate (the Hay Diet can be easily googled). over the last month i have found my situation improving somewhat, though still along way from being healed. whether that is down to the eating of natural food, the food combining, or my current herbal/supplement intake i do not know. my gut also gets agitated when exposed to emfs at times, but even that has eased abit. i will list the supplements i now take and the specific areas of the body they target (at least what i came across stated in research), but like others have said, everyones system is different, and there can be risks in taking some herbal supplements (selenium, which i started taking, can be toxic in large doses). : B vitamin complex; Combination F tissue salts (helps nervous system); selenium (good antioxidant) ; milk thistle tincture (helps liver detox); Ashwaganda & Rhodiola Rosea (helps adrenal glands). i also take green tea, which is meant to be a good antioxidant. the rebuilding of the bodys system can take along time Loni, but eating natural, organic foods, as well as supporting the digestive systema and immune system can only help. hope your situation improves soon, sean --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Loni Rosser <loni326@... > wrote: > > Probably would! > > I told them the truth & they seemed to beleive me until they talked to my husband who told them how crazy I am. Then I was doomed. Loni > > --- On Wed, 8/13/08, Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote: > > From: Marc Martin <marc@...> > Subject: Re: [eSens] I'm desperate! > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 2:04 PM > > > > > > > > The radiation is scary. I need to build me a fort made of Adobe. > > Won't having a fort made of Adobe get you committed again? > > By the way, when one is committed for ES, what is the > correct thing to tell the doctors? Do you tell them > the truth about what's causing the problem, or do you > make something up? It seems to me that if you want > to get out of there, you should NOT tell the truth. > > > Does anyone know what organ/organs are responsible > > for the elect sensitivities? > > I've had gut (stomach) problems after a detox mishap > with an ionic foot problems. But usually I think > you should focus on liver, thyroid, adrenal, and > nervous system. > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Hi All, Thank you everyone for responding to my desperation here.
So my thoughts were to put up a block wall in the back of the house (like over what is already there depending on cost) & tint all of the windows. I have to get a price however. I just am weary because there are so many anntennas & I am so sensitive to the RF. The RF can still get in to the house through the sides & the front of the house. This whole area is just flooded with anntennas. Loni --- On Wed, 8/13/08, Bill Bruno <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Bill Bruno <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] I'm desperate! To: [hidden email] Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 10:08 PM Adobe will absorb microwaves.. . so will brick, cinder block... Adobe is pretty labor intense. Cinder block is probably a lot cheaper, and if you have it covered with chicken wire and stucco, will probably work just as well. Try to get the wall about a foot taller than you think you need. Unfortunately building codes may limit the height. Metal fence may be easier and cheaper. I think regular chain link is not too bad. Slightly smaller holes, and shiny bare metal could improve it. Or, just have "hardware cloth" metal fence added to one side. Note if there is a radio or TV tower, that is longer wavelength and harder to block with a fence because it will come over and diffract down. In that case try painting a room and ceiling with shielding paint and/or foil. Try turning off breakers too. Any low-E (low emissivity) window tint may work. For sure ScotchTint Amber metallic works: blocks 99.9 percent even with the lighter 50 percent grade (I think it's discontinued, but a dealer may still be able to get some... lessEMF sells it by the roll I think too). Bill On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 2:53 PM, Loni Rosser <loni326@yahoo. com> wrote: > The radiation is scary. I need to build me a fort made of Adobe. > > Does anyone know what organ/organs are responsible for the elect > sensitivities? My gut hurts so I think immune system. But liver too because > my skin burns. > > Loni > > --- On Wed, 8/13/08, Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@nc. rr.com<amcafeerr%40nc. rr.com>> > wrote: > > From: Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@nc. rr.com <amcafeerr%40nc. rr.com>> > Subject: Re: [eSens] I'm desperate! > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com <eSens%40yahoogroup s.com> > Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 12:38 PM > > > Loni, > > That cell tower radiation flows like liquid and will find its way into > the house around one wall of shielding > > Taking food and supplements that regenerate your cells and their > ability to handle the external radiation and poison in your system are > essential and will take time. > > If you think you can live in the same place with the same people and > keep cool enough to not have another episode, then yes, shielding is > the way to go (in addition to supplements) . > > I personally don't think you are going to make it. I didn't. > I had to get out or I was going to kill someone. > > If your spouse is not going to support you in this then it is time to > leave without him. Get better then come back and see if you can handle > it in the future. > > Immediately: > Get some VERVAIN, a BACH flower essence and take it when you get angry > and before you are "losing it." > > Get some liquid raw colostrum to get your immune system and resistance > up. Find a local source at > http://www.realmilk .com/where3. html > > Get a Homeopathic Radiation remedy at Whole Foods or similar. It can > help too, a little. > > Take frequent breaks and drive to the countryside and use a tent to > sleep in if necessary. > > There are many other supplements that people on this list can recommend > to help you get through the worst of it, initially. > Ask the group for them if needed. > EDTA (Detoxamin suppositories) chelation has also helped but clogged up > my liver and kidneys. > > You can drape some silver mesh over you to get the burn reduced. > Something like the SILVER LINING SCARF > http://www.lessemf. com/personal. html > > I wore the cap from LESSEMF.COM for about 2 years. In fact I bought a > second one because I wore out the first one. I used to get very bad > headaches on the top of my head and the cap helped keep them away. > > These are short term and cheap solutions. > > You have a serious health condition. Ignore the idiots. Take care of > the immediate and short term. We can talk long term healing later. > > Andrew > > On Aug 13, 2008, at 3:12 PM, Loni Rosser wrote: > > > I haven't tried anything just yet due to the expense. I wanted to live > > elsewhere but not feasible. I'm done with gadgits. I need to block > > this somehow. > > > > My skin is burning & I have only been here for half hour. It's bad for > > me. there are soooo many cell anntennas on this major road. I just > > don't know if I can make it liveable. > > > > I know Adobe block shields so I was thinking about building a wall > > maybe. Or even lining the back of the house with it. I don't know. > > Loni > > > > --- On Wed, 8/13/08, Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com> wrote: > > > > From: Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com> > > Subject: Re: [eSens] I'm desperate! > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > > Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 12:06 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I can't live in this house. I need to find a way. Has anyone tried the > >> window tint for shielding? Has anyone had any luck with any type of > >> shielding against cell RF. > > > > Loni, I'm not clear on what things you've tried so far to combat the > > cell tower RF. I know you've received many suggestions, but what > > exactly have you tried? > > > > That's terrible that your husband would have you committed. Although > > if he stays that high-RF environment for long, he may end up being > > electrically sensitive himself! > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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I am concerned about the plastic laminate on this. I may have a reaction tothat. Does this material smell? Any testimonials on useage of this product? Thanks so much. Loni
--- On Thu, 8/14/08, lessemf.com <[hidden email]> wrote: From: lessemf.com <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] I'm desperate! To: [hidden email] Date: Thursday, August 14, 2008, 7:04 AM >> Andrew, Have you tried anything before? I know if I try something & it >> doesn't work it will just be more proof to my husband that I am >> delusional. Loni Loni, You don't have to re-invent the wheel. People have been sucessfully shielding RF for a long time. No doubt, you need an RF meter to start, otherwise you will have no idea what you are working with. For a very low cost indoor solution, without the problems of reflection, grounding, and stringent leakage control, use a microwave absorber material such as this one: http://www.lessemf. com/fabric. html#259 Simply line the walls of your favorite room, or create a barrier of smaller size if you need to. You cannot make a garment with this material, but it is very lightweight and easy to cut and hang. No grounding is necessary. Emil [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Emil, do you have any experience with the window tint? Loni
--- On Thu, 8/14/08, lessemf.com <[hidden email]> wrote: From: lessemf.com <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] I'm desperate! To: [hidden email] Date: Thursday, August 14, 2008, 7:04 AM >> Andrew, Have you tried anything before? I know if I try something & it >> doesn't work it will just be more proof to my husband that I am >> delusional. Loni Loni, You don't have to re-invent the wheel. People have been sucessfully shielding RF for a long time. No doubt, you need an RF meter to start, otherwise you will have no idea what you are working with. For a very low cost indoor solution, without the problems of reflection, grounding, and stringent leakage control, use a microwave absorber material such as this one: http://www.lessemf. com/fabric. html#259 Simply line the walls of your favorite room, or create a barrier of smaller size if you need to. You cannot make a garment with this material, but it is very lightweight and easy to cut and hang. No grounding is necessary. Emil [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
> Emil, do you have any experience with the window tint? Loni
Yes, what do you want to know? |
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