Smart Meter just installed Denton, TX - no opt out

Sometimes I can get so overstimulated that I possibly feel raw to everything.  Like someone else stated, maybe after settling down and unwinding for a while the stress levels would decrease just from being around the natural setting.
 
Pam

--- On Mon, 2/27/12, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Quiet Zones
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, February 27, 2012, 3:33 PM



 



> I'm disappointed to hear that about Greenbank!

I'm rather surprised at all of the focus on Greenbank. I recently flew
halfway across the USA (with a window seat), and looking down
there seemed to be vast areas that are sparsely populated... so a
LOT of possibilities for low EMF areas...

Marc







[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Marc,
Any of the vast areas could change if your neighboring farmer decides to earn extra money by allowing a cell tower on his land. That is the dilemma. A perfectly fine location when you move there can change and you have no control over it. But not in Greenbank.
You would need to have lots of money to buy huge amounts of rural land somewhere else. But guess what: rural wireless broadband is coming. It carries for miles. How are you going to prevent that? You can't.
Charyl Z.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

-- In [hidden email], pamela clemonts <adiaha22@...> wrote:>>
Sometimes I can get so overstimulated that I possibly feel raw to
everything.  Like someone else stated, maybe after settling down and
unwinding for a while the stress levels would decrease just from being
around the natural setting.> Â > Pam
I found a temporary fix that works wonders for me--walking barefoot on
the beach.  I accidentally discovered this when I would start to feel
edgy and go walk on the beach thinking it was emotionally calming.  But
I found out its way more than that.  Apparently the grounding effect
literally releases the "charge" from your body into the ground.
I am fortunate to be near the ocean for the winter, so now I make a
point of walking on the beach for an hour at least 2 or 3 times a week
and it's like magic.  All the pain, anxiety, edginess is completely gone
when I'm done, and it lasts a couple days for me.
I've been researching this and found out it also works anywhere walking
barefoot on the bare earth or on grass, and also on untreated and
unsealed concrete that is laid directly on the ground.  But not on
asphalt or wood or sealed concrete. If you live in an old house with a
basement from back when they laid the concrete directly on the earth,
and if it is not tiled or sealed inside, you can sometimes find a spot
or two that aren't affected by household currents and just stand there
barefoot.
I don't swim, but I was also told it works even better if you swim in
salt water--something about the salt being a catalyst or something.  So
now I walk in the water just at the edge so I'm actually connected to
the whole ocean.  (Sorry if you guys already know this--I'm new here and
haven't read the archives.)
Anyway, another idea I had is that there are many small barrier islands
around most coastlines that are pretty much off the grid. Some are
resort areas that have installed wi-fi, but you don't get any signal the
farther you go away from the tourist areas.
Btw, I found the place I live in that didn't have a smart meter.  Well,
two weeks ago they installed one. So I've been looking at apartments and
condos to move, and I'm finding as many as 30 all in a group on one
wall, and 30 more maybe 10 feet away on the next building. Asking
around, I found that the people sleeping on the other side of those
walls, sometimes children, don't have a clue what they're being exposed
to. I can no longer believe this is just industry bottom line greed and
cover-up (and certainly not ignorance).  This has to be part of an
intentional government population reduction agenda.
I believe the human body has a nearly unlimited potential to heal
itself, so I'm trying to focus much more on finding whatever small clues
in the research that can help me do this.  Grounding is one.  Taking
resveratrol is another since the research shows it repairs breaks in DNA
strands caused by radiation exposure.  Using calcium bentonite clay,
both internally and externally, is another, since it attracts positive
ions and pulls them out of your body (heavy metals have positive ions).
And I enhance the effect by adding magnesium and sulfur.  I think there
is much potential in homeopathics also, but haven't had much time to
explore it.  It is based on energy fields, and I know Dr Teresa Dale has
been working on this with great effects for detoxing radiation. And
there is much more.
I believe the Creator has given us ways, but it's up to us to discover
them.  Above all, don't allow yourself to give off negative energy with
fear, despair, anger, and other negative emotions. Your body responds to
this. It says, so to speak, "Ok, this is something we can't overcome, so
we need to go into dying mode and start gradually shutting down
functions."
Stay positive, and set your determination to triumph over this and not
succumb.  The Bible says "Resist the devil and he shall flee."  Well,
whatever your religious beliefs, quantum physics and quantum biology are
showing us the power of our thoughts. This thing is an evil and I intend
to personally resist it with all my strength.  I won't change the power
companies or communication providers, but I sure as heck will affect my
own body.  And to me, that's what counts.  Blessings to all of you.
Colleen

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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> But guess what: rural wireless broadband is coming. It carries for miles.
> How are you going to prevent that? You can't.

Then I guess we're back to the original purpose of this group -- finding
ways to deal with these things that are beyond your control.  For example,
if you can find a way to reduce or eliminate your sensitivities to RF, then you
won't really care much if there are nearby cell towers, wi-fi, or smart meters.
(actually, you probably WILL still care, but they won't be damaging you nearly
as much)  

Marc

> Anyway, another idea I had is that there are many small barrier islands
> around most coastlines that are pretty much off the grid. Some are
> resort areas that have installed wi-fi, but you don't get any signal the
> farther you go away from the tourist areas.

Yes, one can use geography to help choose a good place to live:

  - live by a lake or ocean... nobody is going to be installing any
    towers on the water!
  - live in a forest... the trees will absorb a lot of the signal
  - live in a mountainous area... the mountains will block a lot
    of the signal

Also, I heard a recent interview with Dr. Klinghardt, and he said that
the RF signals were very low in his room in downtown New York city!
He said that this was because these very old buildings with their
thick exterior walls were doing a great job of shielding the RF.  So
one could apply this concept anywhere, and look for houses with
thick exterior walls (brick?  cement?  clay?).  Probably with few
windows, too (although I guess you could apply shielding materials
to the windows)

Marc

Marc,

We are dealing w more than wireless.

Our weather forecasters just upgraded to dual polarization radar. I can feel a big difference. The 10 day break w none was awesome. It makes you tired.

 How far from this would you want to be?

Kathy




From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
 Re: [eSens] Quiet Zones

















 



 


   
     
     
      > But guess what: rural wireless broadband is coming. It carries for miles.

> How are you going to prevent that? You can't.



Then I guess we're back to the original purpose of this group -- finding

ways to deal with these things that are beyond your control.  For example,

if you can find a way to reduce or eliminate your sensitivities to RF, then you

won't really care much if there are nearby cell towers, wi-fi, or smart meters.

(actually, you probably WILL still care, but they won't be damaging you nearly

as much)  



Marc



   
     

   
   






 










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> Our weather forecasters just upgraded to dual polarization radar. I can feel a big difference.
> The 10 day break w none was awesome. It makes you tired.
>
>  How far from this would you want to be?

Hmmm, are you the first person here to report noticing a difference with
dual polarization radar?  If so, you may need to the person to tell us
how far away you'd want to be from this!

Marc

Hi Everyone,
I came across what I believe might be some very important information
for all of us. In the below article, in the red print, is a sentence that may
offer some valuable insight to ES people, and electrical imbalances.
Wilson has a ton of info on potassium, hair mineral anaylsis
and especially mineral ratios. Dr. Eck, who was Wilson's mentor, believes
that: that the Sodium/Potassium mineral ratio, on a hair test is the most reliable way to
evaluate a person's state of energy and vitality. He also believes that: the sodium/Magnesium
mineral ratio is an accurate guide to assessing the adrenal glands, and that Thyroid effeciency
can be accurately assessed by the Calcium/Potassium mineral ration.
Anyone interested in more info can contact the: The Eck Institute of Applied Nutrition and Bioenergetics, Ltd,
602-995-1581
and see if they will send you an issue of: The Healthview Newsletter, Issue # 27-29.
This issue is where I pulled the above info from, on mineral ratios.
Otherwise, the site listed below for dr. Wilson, does contain much of the same info.
Scroll down to the bottom of page, where it says: articles and click on that, there is a ton
of useful info on this site, as well.
Lizzie
1.   POTASSIUM - by Lawrence Wilson, MD
www.drlwilson.com/articles/POTASSIUM.htmCached
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The electrical balance of the cells, the sodium pump, and kidney activity. The sodium/potassium ratio on a hair mineral analysis in which the hair has not been
POTASSIUM
by Lawrence Wilson, MD
© November 2011, The Center For Development, Inc.
 
Potassium is a major electrolyte in our bodies.  This means it is present in large quantities in the body, and is required in large quantities in the diet.  Potassium has a single electrical charge, also called a monovalent element.  This makes it a good electrical conductor and tends to make it very water-soluble.  It performs many essential functions ranging from regulating the heart to balancing the electrical potential of the body.
Sodium/potassium pair.  Potassium is closely allied with sodium in the body.  Both are used as solvents, both are regulated in the blood by the kidneys, both are monovalent elements, and they share other qualities as well. However, potassium is found mainly inside the cells, while sodium concentrates more in the blood and interstitial fluid.  The concept of pairs of minerals is extremely important in physiology and in nutritional balancing science.
 
THE FUNCTIONS OF POTASSIUM IN OUR BODIES
 
Potassium has many critical functions in our bodies, among which are:
 
·       A potent solvent. The monovalent elements are the body’s solvents.  Though less important than sodium, potassium also functions to dissolve many chemical compounds in the blood.
·       Association with cortisol levels.  Sodium is more associated with adrenalin and aldosterone, which are faster acting hormones.  Potassium is more associated with cortisol and cortisone.  These are slower-acting or later-stage stress hormones. The correlation on hair mineral tests is only a general one, however, as many factors can influence the hair levels.
·       Thyroid gland regulation.  Potassium sensitizes the cells to thyroid hormone, according to Dr. Eck’s research.  In addition, when sodium and potassium rise, tissue calcium tends to decrease.  This causes the cells to become more permeable to thyroid hormone, in particular, and to other hormones such as insulin, as well.
·       Cancer fighter. Max Gerson, MD pioneered a high potassium diet for cancer and other degenerative diseases.  His rationale was that potassium leaking out of the cells causes depolarization of the cells and disease.  His answer was to replenish potassium in the diet.  Today, however, that diet, usually composed of many glasses of carrot and apple juice, appears to be less effective because the cancer problem is not so much about potassium as it is about toxic metals and toxic chemicals in the body that must be removed to restore health.
·       Fluid balance and osmotic regulation.  Potassium does this along with sodium, calcium, magnesium and phosphorus.
·       Nerve conduction, especially in the heart.  Those who eat improperly with not enough vegetables, in particular, may feel weak or even experience palpitations, skipped beats, arrhythmias and rarely heart attacks from potassium depletion.  This can be much worse, for example, if they do not replenish their minerals and they use saunas or hot tubs that induce intense sweating.  This is why I recommend kelp and sea salt if one uses a sauna.
·       Regulation of blood viscosity, serum and cellular acidity, and CO2 transport in the red blood cells.
Regulation of cell membrane potential, cell permeability, sodium pump action, muscle contraction and relaxation, and nerve impulse conduction.  
 



To: [hidden email]
From: [hidden email]
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 15:28:50 -0800
Subject: Re: [eSens] Dual Polarization Radar


 



> Our weather forecasters just upgraded to dual polarization radar. I can feel a big difference.
> The 10 day break w none was awesome. It makes you tired.
>
>  How far from this would you want to be?

Hmmm, are you the first person here to report noticing a difference with
dual polarization radar? If so, you may need to the person to tell us
how far away you'd want to be from this!

Marc



     

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Thanks Colleen,
 
You're awesome!  You may be new here, but you certainly fit in with this diverse group of highly intelligent seekers determined to find answers to alleviate their suffering and the suffering of others.  I walk on the grass and not the sidewalk, though with my shoes on and I do it because it does help to disperse the charges somewhat.  I have heard about the great grounding effects of walking barefoot on the grass, but I have yet to try it.  I don't have a yard per se, but I will have to try it in the park.  I don't live near the ocean.  You are lucky there.
 
Sorry you ended up with this condition and I really love your attitude.  Yes, I have noticed as have some others that negative emotions whether of my own or others, seem to be amplified by the microwaves though I'm not sure why or how.  I agree with everything you've stated, especially the part about giving the mind and body the signal to shut down.  That has happened so many times over the past four years.  Recently, after moving my stuff into an attic that I've actually occupied for over a year...the frequencies picked up, I figure that people got new toys.  After laying down a whole bunch of heavy duty foil, it barely seems to matter some days-- but I know it helps even on bad days. Still the set backs can be very discouraging.
 
Having the fabric from LessEMF has made a big difference for me, but I even had good days when I didn't have the fabric.
 
Some energy sensitive friends of mine who practice energy healing like Reiki have been trying to share with me how they use visualizations to shield themselves, but they are more grounded than myself, plus I have 7 mercury fillings in my mouth that desperately should come out.
 
Finally, regarding your deduction about the government, very nice.  That's a lock.  I've been told by several sources that depopulation is the target...so they could care less whether we get sick, die or fail to reproduce.  We are in it for our own survival these days.  Sad, that people feel the need to play God with the lives of people they care nothing about.
 
It's been a pleasure hearing from you.  Good luck with finding a safe place to live. 
 
Let me ask you one last thing.  Where do you purchase your resveratrol and how much do you recommend taking, also with the calcium bentonite clay?  It's funny that I recently came across an ad for the clay.  It sounded great, but I couldn't find a place in the US that sold reasonable amounts of it.  Once I get this stuff, could you help me put together a reasonable protocol to begin with?  Thanks for all your great advice!
 
Blessings,
Pam

--- On Tue, 2/28/12, cjosephj <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: cjosephj <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: Quiet Zones
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, February 28, 2012, 2:33 PM



 



-- In [hidden email], pamela clemonts <adiaha22@...> wrote:>>
Sometimes I can get so overstimulated that I possibly feel raw to
everything. Like someone else stated, maybe after settling down and
unwinding for a while the stress levels would decrease just from being
around the natural setting.> Â > Pam
I found a temporary fix that works wonders for me--walking barefoot on
the beach. I accidentally discovered this when I would start to feel
edgy and go walk on the beach thinking it was emotionally calming. But
I found out its way more than that. Apparently the grounding effect
literally releases the "charge" from your body into the ground.
I am fortunate to be near the ocean for the winter, so now I make a
point of walking on the beach for an hour at least 2 or 3 times a week
and it's like magic. All the pain, anxiety, edginess is completely gone
when I'm done, and it lasts a couple days for me.
I've been researching this and found out it also works anywhere walking
barefoot on the bare earth or on grass, and also on untreated and
unsealed concrete that is laid directly on the ground. But not on
asphalt or wood or sealed concrete. If you live in an old house with a
basement from back when they laid the concrete directly on the earth,
and if it is not tiled or sealed inside, you can sometimes find a spot
or two that aren't affected by household currents and just stand there
barefoot.
I don't swim, but I was also told it works even better if you swim in
salt water--something about the salt being a catalyst or something. So
now I walk in the water just at the edge so I'm actually connected to
the whole ocean. (Sorry if you guys already know this--I'm new here and
haven't read the archives.)
Anyway, another idea I had is that there are many small barrier islands
around most coastlines that are pretty much off the grid. Some are
resort areas that have installed wi-fi, but you don't get any signal the
farther you go away from the tourist areas.
Btw, I found the place I live in that didn't have a smart meter. Well,
two weeks ago they installed one. So I've been looking at apartments and
condos to move, and I'm finding as many as 30 all in a group on one
wall, and 30 more maybe 10 feet away on the next building. Asking
around, I found that the people sleeping on the other side of those
walls, sometimes children, don't have a clue what they're being exposed
to. I can no longer believe this is just industry bottom line greed and
cover-up (and certainly not ignorance). This has to be part of an
intentional government population reduction agenda.
I believe the human body has a nearly unlimited potential to heal
itself, so I'm trying to focus much more on finding whatever small clues
in the research that can help me do this. Grounding is one. Taking
resveratrol is another since the research shows it repairs breaks in DNA
strands caused by radiation exposure. Using calcium bentonite clay,
both internally and externally, is another, since it attracts positive
ions and pulls them out of your body (heavy metals have positive ions).
And I enhance the effect by adding magnesium and sulfur. I think there
is much potential in homeopathics also, but haven't had much time to
explore it. It is based on energy fields, and I know Dr Teresa Dale has
been working on this with great effects for detoxing radiation. And
there is much more.
I believe the Creator has given us ways, but it's up to us to discover
them. Above all, don't allow yourself to give off negative energy with
fear, despair, anger, and other negative emotions. Your body responds to
this. It says, so to speak, "Ok, this is something we can't overcome, so
we need to go into dying mode and start gradually shutting down
functions."
Stay positive, and set your determination to triumph over this and not
succumb. The Bible says "Resist the devil and he shall flee." Well,
whatever your religious beliefs, quantum physics and quantum biology are
showing us the power of our thoughts. This thing is an evil and I intend
to personally resist it with all my strength. I won't change the power
companies or communication providers, but I sure as heck will affect my
own body. And to me, that's what counts. Blessings to all of you.
Colleen

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Marc,
 
I have from time to time felt somewhat okay in brick buildings in NYC.  I wondered why, just figured in was the cement blocks, bricks and probably meta beams.  In fact in my friends apartment in Soho I was tolerating the microwaves in the apartment pretty well.  He had a wireless router, cell phones and was at one point even charginf the phone.  But certain times of day it can still get pretty electronically noisy in there.
 
These wood houses in NJ are like match boxes energy wise.  New York City is very expensive to live.
 
Pam

--- On Tue, 2/28/12, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Quiet Zones
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, February 28, 2012, 3:03 PM



 



> Anyway, another idea I had is that there are many small barrier islands
> around most coastlines that are pretty much off the grid. Some are
> resort areas that have installed wi-fi, but you don't get any signal the
> farther you go away from the tourist areas.

Yes, one can use geography to help choose a good place to live:

- live by a lake or ocean... nobody is going to be installing any
towers on the water!
- live in a forest... the trees will absorb a lot of the signal
- live in a mountainous area... the mountains will block a lot
of the signal

Also, I heard a recent interview with Dr. Klinghardt, and he said that
the RF signals were very low in his room in downtown New York city!
He said that this was because these very old buildings with their
thick exterior walls were doing a great job of shielding the RF. So
one could apply this concept anywhere, and look for houses with
thick exterior walls (brick? cement? clay?). Probably with few
windows, too (although I guess you could apply shielding materials
to the windows)

Marc







[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi Kathy,
 
I'm impressed that you are able to discern between the various transmission.  All I know is-- pain or burn or exhausted.
 
Pam

--- On Tue, 2/28/12, KathyB <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: KathyB <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Quiet Zones
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, February 28, 2012, 5:41 PM



 



Marc,

We are dealing w more than wireless.

Our weather forecasters just upgraded to dual polarization radar. I can feel a big difference. The 10 day break w none was awesome. It makes you tired.

 How far from this would you want to be?

Kathy

From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
 Re: [eSens] Quiet Zones

 

> But guess what: rural wireless broadband is coming. It carries for miles.

> How are you going to prevent that? You can't.

Then I guess we're back to the original purpose of this group -- finding

ways to deal with these things that are beyond your control. For example,

if you can find a way to reduce or eliminate your sensitivities to RF, then you

won't really care much if there are nearby cell towers, wi-fi, or smart meters.

(actually, you probably WILL still care, but they won't be damaging you nearly

as much)

Marc

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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Pam,
Clay is something to be cautious with. It can pull out good minerals, as well as heavy metals and other toxins.
I have used a few different types of clay...and the purety of the clay is also important, as many clays do contain Aluminum.
But I had been on a variety of mineral supp's for awhile, before using. And even then, the benefits can be tenuous, as
there are so many factors that can cause minerals to be unbalanced, and even disrupting these a TINY bit, can make a
person worse. REally? Without properly done Hair Analsis testing, there's no other way to really know where the levels
of minerals are, in the body.
As with all matters dealing with chelation, whether natural or not, the issue is this: most people I would venture to say are
very low on most minerals, and what the body does to compensate this, is to literally steal or borrow the needed minerals
from other places in the body. Unfortunately, those already low mineral reserves aren't replaced, so it is more like stealing
then borrowing in that case. This is why people get gray hair. The body steals the needed minerals until the reserves (think:
the cupboards are left bare). This is new information to me, that I found reading Dr. Eck's information on minerals and hair
anaylisis testing. Per Dr. Eck, "Grey hair is a warning signal that your body is running out of energy. Blaming it on old age really
doesn't answer any questions, because there are young people who have hair that is grey in places. If old age by itself is not
the real cause, what is? The cause of grey hair is chronic fatigue and exhaustion. Grey hair is Nature's way of warning us that
we are running out of energy. Grey hair warns us about low energy just like the oil  light on your dashboard warns you about
low oil in your motor. Its the minerals in your body that give your hair its color. It is true that some people with grey hair have a
great deal of energy. What these people don't realize is that they are maintaining their energy levels by using up mineral reservoirs
which are not supposed to be touched. This is why their hair is grey and not dark. Grey hair is a warning sign because hair in general
reflects the minerals that are in your body. Its the minerals in the body that give your hair its color. For example, black hair get its color
from the minerals mangansese and iron. If you saw these two minerals in rock form, they are black. What actually makes hair turn
white is caused by two other minerals, calcium and zinc. These are the minerals that deposit in your hair as your body becomes
exhausted. Calcium and zinc are both white, as these two minerals accumulate in your tissues, and therefore in hair, the hair then
turns white. " End quote.
 
So what can we do, in the meantime, to help the body. The first rule would be to NOT do anything that could cause the body's mineral
reserves to be further robbed. Have you tried the Magnesium Chloride OIl, from either: www.ancient-minerals.com or www.thepowermall.com ?
Soaking your feet or taking a bath would be a safe way to get Magnesium into the body, via the skin. Some use the Epson salts but have said that
as the Epson contains Sulfur, gave them side effects. Using the Magnesium Chloride oil, or they sell it in bath crystals, was the ONE thing that
we used and continue to use, that didn't give any bad side effects. Like with every other supp, it is WISE to start out very low doses in the water.
You can read more on this subject  here:
Blessings,
Lizzie

Transdermal Magnesium Therapy - Dr. Mark Sircus' Blog - IMVA




blog.imva.info/medicine/transdermal-magnesium-therapy-2
 



To: [hidden email]
From: [hidden email]
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 13:28:13 -0800
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Quiet Zones


 



Thanks Colleen,
 
You're awesome!  You may be new here, but you certainly fit in with this diverse group of highly intelligent seekers determined to find answers to alleviate their suffering and the suffering of others.  I walk on the grass and not the sidewalk, though with my shoes on and I do it because it does help to disperse the charges somewhat.  I have heard about the great grounding effects of walking barefoot on the grass, but I have yet to try it.  I don't have a yard per se, but I will have to try it in the park.  I don't live near the ocean.  You are lucky there.
 
Sorry you ended up with this condition and I really love your attitude.  Yes, I have noticed as have some others that negative emotions whether of my own or others, seem to be amplified by the microwaves though I'm not sure why or how.  I agree with everything you've stated, especially the part about giving the mind and body the signal to shut down.  That has happened so many times over the past four years.  Recently, after moving my stuff into an attic that I've actually occupied for over a year...the frequencies picked up, I figure that people got new toys.  After laying down a whole bunch of heavy duty foil, it barely seems to matter some days-- but I know it helps even on bad days. Still the set backs can be very discouraging.
 
Having the fabric from LessEMF has made a big difference for me, but I even had good days when I didn't have the fabric.
 
Some energy sensitive friends of mine who practice energy healing like Reiki have been trying to share with me how they use visualizations to shield themselves, but they are more grounded than myself, plus I have 7 mercury fillings in my mouth that desperately should come out.
 
Finally, regarding your deduction about the government, very nice.  That's a lock.  I've been told by several sources that depopulation is the target...so they could care less whether we get sick, die or fail to reproduce.  We are in it for our own survival these days.  Sad, that people feel the need to play God with the lives of people they care nothing about.
 
It's been a pleasure hearing from you.  Good luck with finding a safe place to live.  
 
Let me ask you one last thing.  Where do you purchase your resveratrol and how much do you recommend taking, also with the calcium bentonite clay?  It's funny that I recently came across an ad for the clay.  It sounded great, but I couldn't find a place in the US that sold reasonable amounts of it.  Once I get this stuff, could you help me put together a reasonable protocol to begin with?  Thanks for all your great advice!
 
Blessings,
Pam

--- On Tue, 2/28/12, cjosephj <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: cjosephj <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: Quiet Zones
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, February 28, 2012, 2:33 PM

 

-- In [hidden email], pamela clemonts <adiaha22@...> wrote:>>
Sometimes I can get so overstimulated that I possibly feel raw to
everything. Like someone else stated, maybe after settling down and
unwinding for a while the stress levels would decrease just from being
around the natural setting.> Â > Pam
I found a temporary fix that works wonders for me--walking barefoot on
the beach. I accidentally discovered this when I would start to feel
edgy and go walk on the beach thinking it was emotionally calming. But
I found out its way more than that. Apparently the grounding effect
literally releases the "charge" from your body into the ground.
I am fortunate to be near the ocean for the winter, so now I make a
point of walking on the beach for an hour at least 2 or 3 times a week
and it's like magic. All the pain, anxiety, edginess is completely gone
when I'm done, and it lasts a couple days for me.
I've been researching this and found out it also works anywhere walking
barefoot on the bare earth or on grass, and also on untreated and
unsealed concrete that is laid directly on the ground. But not on
asphalt or wood or sealed concrete. If you live in an old house with a
basement from back when they laid the concrete directly on the earth,
and if it is not tiled or sealed inside, you can sometimes find a spot
or two that aren't affected by household currents and just stand there
barefoot.
I don't swim, but I was also told it works even better if you swim in
salt water--something about the salt being a catalyst or something. So
now I walk in the water just at the edge so I'm actually connected to
the whole ocean. (Sorry if you guys already know this--I'm new here and
haven't read the archives.)
Anyway, another idea I had is that there are many small barrier islands
around most coastlines that are pretty much off the grid. Some are
resort areas that have installed wi-fi, but you don't get any signal the
farther you go away from the tourist areas.
Btw, I found the place I live in that didn't have a smart meter. Well,
two weeks ago they installed one. So I've been looking at apartments and
condos to move, and I'm finding as many as 30 all in a group on one
wall, and 30 more maybe 10 feet away on the next building. Asking
around, I found that the people sleeping on the other side of those
walls, sometimes children, don't have a clue what they're being exposed
to. I can no longer believe this is just industry bottom line greed and
cover-up (and certainly not ignorance). This has to be part of an
intentional government population reduction agenda.
I believe the human body has a nearly unlimited potential to heal
itself, so I'm trying to focus much more on finding whatever small clues
in the research that can help me do this. Grounding is one. Taking
resveratrol is another since the research shows it repairs breaks in DNA
strands caused by radiation exposure. Using calcium bentonite clay,
both internally and externally, is another, since it attracts positive
ions and pulls them out of your body (heavy metals have positive ions).
And I enhance the effect by adding magnesium and sulfur. I think there
is much potential in homeopathics also, but haven't had much time to
explore it. It is based on energy fields, and I know Dr Teresa Dale has
been working on this with great effects for detoxing radiation. And
there is much more.
I believe the Creator has given us ways, but it's up to us to discover
them. Above all, don't allow yourself to give off negative energy with
fear, despair, anger, and other negative emotions. Your body responds to
this. It says, so to speak, "Ok, this is something we can't overcome, so
we need to go into dying mode and start gradually shutting down
functions."
Stay positive, and set your determination to triumph over this and not
succumb. The Bible says "Resist the devil and he shall flee." Well,
whatever your religious beliefs, quantum physics and quantum biology are
showing us the power of our thoughts. This thing is an evil and I intend
to personally resist it with all my strength. I won't change the power
companies or communication providers, but I sure as heck will affect my
own body. And to me, that's what counts. Blessings to all of you.
Colleen

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Hi Kathy, yes that is impressive!  Do you happen to knew when they use dual polarization radar, does that happen from their TV towers or just various other towers they set up for it, or how do they do that?  thanks!
 
Debbie




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From: pamela clemonts &lt;[hidden email]&gt;
To: eSens &lt;[hidden email]&gt;
Sent: Wed, Feb 29, 2012 4:39 pm
Subject: Re: [eSens] Quiet Zones

  Hi Kathy,
 
I'm impressed that you are able to discern between the various transmission.  All I know is-- pain or burn or exhausted.
 
Pam

--- On Tue, 2/28/12, KathyB &lt;[hidden email]&gt; wrote:

From: KathyB &lt;[hidden email]&gt;
Subject: Re: [eSens] Quiet Zones
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, February 28, 2012, 5:41 PM

 

Marc,

We are dealing w more than wireless.

Our weather forecasters just upgraded to dual polarization radar. I can feel a big difference. The 10 day break w none was awesome. It makes you tired.

 How far from this would you want to be?

Kathy

From: Marc Martin &lt;[hidden email]&gt;
 Re: [eSens] Quiet Zones

 

&gt; But guess what: rural wireless broadband is coming. It carries for miles.

&gt; How are you going to prevent that? You can't.

Then I guess we're back to the original purpose of this group -- finding

ways to deal with these things that are beyond your control. For example,

if you can find a way to reduce or eliminate your sensitivities to RF, then you

won't really care much if there are nearby cell towers, wi-fi, or smart meters.

(actually, you probably WILL still care, but they won't be damaging you nearly

as much)

Marc

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> Do you happen to knew when they use dual polarization radar,
> does that happen from their TV towers or just various other
> towers they set up for it, or how do they do that?  thanks!

This is what a dual polarization radar tower looks like:

http://thesunbreak.com/2011/09/30/cantwell-coastal-doppler-radar-fully-operational-rebels-within-grasp/

Marc

For what it's worth, I wanted to add that I have heard from one consultant that the ocean front can be nasty, due (if I understood correctly)to emf reflected  by or skipping across the water.

Chuck

--- In [hidden email], pamela clemonts <adiaha22@...> wrote:

"Then I guess we're back to the original purpose of this group -- finding

ways to deal with these things that are beyond your control. For example,

if you can find a way to reduce or eliminate your sensitivities to RF, then you

won't really care much if there are nearby cell towers, wi-fi, or smart meters.

(actually, you probably WILL still care, but they won't be damaging you nearly

as much)"
 
Marc,
Do you believe that only people that feel the results of the damage of wireless electrosmog are being biologically damaged?
Do you believe that if eating blueberries makes someone feel a bit better that they are no longer being damaged?
Do you think that soothing the "canaries in the mine" will suddenly make the toxic environment okay?
Do you believe that the wireless explosion should not be challenged or fought?
 
Just wondering. (:

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> Do you believe that only people that feel the results of the damage of wireless electrosmog are being biologically damaged?
> Do you believe that if eating blueberries makes someone feel a bit better that they are no longer being damaged?
> Do you think that soothing the "canaries in the mine" will suddenly make the toxic environment okay?
> Do you believe that the wireless explosion should not be challenged or fought?

I'm sure that people are being damaged regardless, but the simple truth is
that many people do not notice anything when they are around wi-fi,
cellphones, computers, etc.  And I think people here would also not like
to notice anything.

And some of damage that people are experiencing is not due solely to
EMF, but rather EMF plus some other factor.  Like EMF plus heavy metals in
their body.  So if they eliminate the heavy metals, the symptoms that they
used to associate with EMF are now gone (as is the damage from that
synergistic combination).

And sure, people can and should fight the wireless explosion, but that's
not really the point of this particular group (as noted in the group's
description).

Marc

We're being scathed...and I believe that many will die wayyyyy toooo young because of this "Brave New World Order." But they won't care as long as they don't know what's killing them. 
 
I work on a neurological unit (part-time) and a school district as a per diem teacher. In the past year alone since I came down in 2008 with EHS (eyes made open), I have witnessed 3 of my former students ages 19 to 36 be admitted for onset seizures.  Of course, no one knows what caused them.  And the establishment never will.  Just like the years spent in denial over the consequences of that other really "cool" social phenom --CIGARETTE SMOKING!  Even the addicted doctors wouldn't stop pimping those for the industry for 40 years or so.  At times they even stated that smoking was good for people. 
 
On the one hane I'm sorry for working in the hospital, on the other hand-- what better place to "see" from.
 
Pam 

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From: Shar Zeefas <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: Quiet Zones
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Date: Thursday, March 1, 2012, 9:50 AM



 



"Then I guess we're back to the original purpose of this group -- finding

ways to deal with these things that are beyond your control. For example,

if you can find a way to reduce or eliminate your sensitivities to RF, then you

won't really care much if there are nearby cell towers, wi-fi, or smart meters.

(actually, you probably WILL still care, but they won't be damaging you nearly

as much)"
 
Marc,
Do you believe that only people that feel the results of the damage of wireless electrosmog are being biologically damaged?
Do you believe that if eating blueberries makes someone feel a bit better that they are no longer being damaged?
Do you think that soothing the "canaries in the mine" will suddenly make the toxic environment okay?
Do you believe that the wireless explosion should not be challenged or fought?
 
Just wondering. (:

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Hey Marc,
 
I'm really glad that you mentioned this because many people here have had their mercury fillings out and have chelated and taken oodles of supplements and use coherent devices, but can anyone here say that they are symptom free?  I have heard of some who claim to be better, like Camilla Rees, but I wanted to talk to someone here who has been "cured" of this so-called affliction.  I thank you for reminding me that I've wanted to ask this question for a while now.
 
I agree that danger comes in many forms, I would prefer not to feel the way I do, especially where I am living.  I think all that people want is to feel good and to feel safe regardless of the death that may be lurking around the corner.  What do you think?
 
Pam


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From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Quiet Zones
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, March 1, 2012, 10:08 AM



 



> Do you believe that only people that feel the results of the damage of wireless electrosmog are being biologically damaged?
> Do you believe that if eating blueberries makes someone feel a bit better that they are no longer being damaged?
> Do you think that soothing the "canaries in the mine" will suddenly make the toxic environment okay?
> Do you believe that the wireless explosion should not be challenged or fought?

I'm sure that people are being damaged regardless, but the simple truth is
that many people do not notice anything when they are around wi-fi,
cellphones, computers, etc. And I think people here would also not like
to notice anything.

And some of damage that people are experiencing is not due solely to
EMF, but rather EMF plus some other factor. Like EMF plus heavy metals in
their body. So if they eliminate the heavy metals, the symptoms that they
used to associate with EMF are now gone (as is the damage from that
synergistic combination).

And sure, people can and should fight the wireless explosion, but that's
not really the point of this particular group (as noted in the group's
description).

Marc








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> I'm really glad that you mentioned this because many people here have
> had their mercury fillings out and have chelated and taken oodles of
> supplements and use coherent devices, but can anyone here say that
> they are symptom free? 

Certainly I have heard people reporting that they've becoming symptom
free after working on whatever predisposed them to becoming ES
(typically heavy metals).  For example, Gillgan Joy, "Ed from the
Netherlands", Charles' wife.

However, these are the usually the sorts of people who then unsubscribe
from this group, because they no longer need the advice given here.  
So the group tends to be full of the people who stay sick, because
they either cannot afford or are unwilling to do what's necessary to
get better, or they do not have insight/good luck to figure out what
exactly they need to do.

Marc