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Loni Rosser

Re: what will happen to our kids?

What I fear is the child at home torchered by the smart meters & cell antennas, & wifi and can't escape. Me I can drive to the desert & get away.

Will there be many young kids committing suicide? Docs putting them on psychiatric drugs that make them worse. It's not a pretty pic & it will happen. Loni

--- On Tue, 11/9/10, Rixta Francis <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Rixta Francis <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] what will happen to our kids?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, November 9, 2010, 12:49 PM

At the moment I'm reading a book about EMF and somewhere the question
was asked when governments will take the problem seriously and take
action. The answer was "when the bodies are piling up in the streets".
That might be a bit exaggerated, but I think it's close. Too many
diseases and physical problems can be attributed to other causes and
that's what everyone does so far. It will take a long time and many sick
and even dead people before EMF is accepted as very unhealthy and the
cause of all the trouble.

Rixta

>> What's going to happen to our kids? Are they all going to be disabled
>> because of big business?
> At some point the EMF pollution will become so bad and enough people
> will become disabled that something will have to be done about it.
> In the meantime, us "canaries" will have to cope as best we can.
>
> Marc
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dakimbobs@sbcglobal.net

Re: Hello, I'm new and very curious

In reply to this post by Neil R

Hi, Neil,

I have experienced tinnitus since PG&E installed a Smart Meter on my home. It is a constant ringing in both ears, much worse at night when the world outside quiets down. When I leave my house and drive to a location a half hour away, it is still with me. I understand that the "condition" may need a week or ten days to be relieved after being in a "clean" area as there is something about the vibration that continues after one leaves the "danger zone." Is anyone else experiencing tinnitus as a result of a Smart Meter? If so, do you have variation in your tinnitus as you move about your home, go outside, walk the street?

Thank you all so much!

--- In [hidden email], "Neil R" <ndrofca@...> wrote:

>
> Hi Stewart, Thanks for understanding.
>
> I do believe something for sure near or around my home is the instigator.
>
> I am now going to build a case to convince myself I need to move somewhere
> noise free.
>
>
>
> I asked about the frequency that PG&E is using? Do you know where I can find
> info specific to PG&E other than their site? I have looked there and they
> don't mention the wireless frequesncy they use.
>
>
>
> Thanks again to all.
>
> If anyone also has tinnitus or high buzzing I'd like to hear from you.
>
> Thanks
>
> Neil
>
>
>
>
>
> From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of S
> Andreason
> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 4:24 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Hello, I'm new and very curious
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Neil,
>
> You are not alone with life changing "tinitus" and the accompanying
> other disabling symptoms.
>
> If you are new here, there was an excellent post back on Oct.18 by Sandi
> regarding smart meters.
> Here is a link:
> http://esens.966376.n3.nabble.com/smart-meter-test-tp1722552p1727015.html
>
> I'm having enough trouble with WiFi here, I don't need any Smart Meters too.
>
> Regarding the frequency, it seems to me it would be easier to use the
> existing cel-phone frequencies, GSM-850 (869-894MHz downlink, 824-849MHz
> uplink from meter).
> Otherwise there would have to be additional infrastructure (towers and
> antennas) to cover their equipment.
>
> Stewart
> http://seaHorseCorral.org/ehs1.html
> --
>
> > Anyone else suffering this bussing or hissing. I'd love to connect with
> you and discuss more. IF your up to it. This has been life changing.
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

lindameetoo

Re: Hello, I'm new and very curious

Hi, Neil
I had tinnitus from the cell towers I think. When the smart meter got put in a couple of months ago the hissing and ringing got way worse. I can hear it now when the room is real noisy. It's a higher pitch also. It changes when the meter is transmitting.
--- In [hidden email], "dakimbobs@..." <dakimbobs@...> wrote:

>
> Hi, Neil,
>
> I have experienced tinnitus since PG&E installed a Smart Meter on my home. It is a constant ringing in both ears, much worse at night when the world outside quiets down. When I leave my house and drive to a location a half hour away, it is still with me. I understand that the "condition" may need a week or ten days to be relieved after being in a "clean" area as there is something about the vibration that continues after one leaves the "danger zone." Is anyone else experiencing tinnitus as a result of a Smart Meter? If so, do you have variation in your tinnitus as you move about your home, go outside, walk the street?
>
> Thank you all so much!
>
> --- In [hidden email], "Neil R" <ndrofca@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Stewart, Thanks for understanding.
> >
> > I do believe something for sure near or around my home is the instigator.
> >
> > I am now going to build a case to convince myself I need to move somewhere
> > noise free.
> >
> >
> >
> > I asked about the frequency that PG&E is using? Do you know where I can find
> > info specific to PG&E other than their site? I have looked there and they
> > don't mention the wireless frequesncy they use.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks again to all.
> >
> > If anyone also has tinnitus or high buzzing I'd like to hear from you.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Neil
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of S
> > Andreason
> > Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 4:24 PM
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Hello, I'm new and very curious
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Neil,
> >
> > You are not alone with life changing "tinitus" and the accompanying
> > other disabling symptoms.
> >
> > If you are new here, there was an excellent post back on Oct.18 by Sandi
> > regarding smart meters.
> > Here is a link:
> > http://esens.966376.n3.nabble.com/smart-meter-test-tp1722552p1727015.html
> >
> > I'm having enough trouble with WiFi here, I don't need any Smart Meters too.
> >
> > Regarding the frequency, it seems to me it would be easier to use the
> > existing cel-phone frequencies, GSM-850 (869-894MHz downlink, 824-849MHz
> > uplink from meter).
> > Otherwise there would have to be additional infrastructure (towers and
> > antennas) to cover their equipment.
> >
> > Stewart
> > http://seaHorseCorral.org/ehs1.html
> > --
> >
> > > Anyone else suffering this bussing or hissing. I'd love to connect with
> > you and discuss more. IF your up to it. This has been life changing.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

lindameetoo

Re: Hello, I'm new and very curious

In reply to this post by dakimbobs@sbcglobal.net

Hi, Neil
I had tinnitus from the cell towers I think. When the smart meter got put in a couple of months ago the hissing and ringing got way worse. I can hear it now when the room is real noisy. It's a higher pitch also. It changes when the meter is transmitting.
Linda
--- In [hidden email], "dakimbobs@..." <dakimbobs@...> wrote:

emraware

Re: Hello, I'm new and very curious

In reply to this post by lindameetoo

I've known or read of people getting tinnitus around all kinds of EMF:
- AC electrical fields
- AC magnetic fields
- RF from cell towers
- Digital harmonics (including from the front of the car)

--- In [hidden email], "lindameetoo" <lindameetoo@...> wrote:
>
>
> Hi, Neil
> I had tinnitus from the cell towers I think. When the smart meter got put in a couple of months ago the hissing and ringing got way worse. I can hear it now when the room is real noisy. It's a higher pitch also. It changes when the meter is transmitting.

BiBrun

Re: Hello, I'm new and very curious

In reply to this post by Neil R

According to the CCST.us document it is 902-928MHz.

There will also be a 2.4GHz signal for the consumer's appliances to
use, but that is probably not enabled yet.

It also claims it only transmits 4 times a day in the initial phase
of installation. You should get some kind of microwave detector
and try to verify this (which won't be easy if it really is only every
six hours).

If that's true you are probably reacting to the RF generated by
the power supply that powers the digital circuitry. Which
is also a bit surprising if you already have digital electronics plugged
in (unless they are more than 10 years old, with linear power supplies).

It is conceivable that you'd feel better if the ground rod at the meter is
disconnected. If that helps you can try to find a spark gap or
power safety device to restore the (what little) safety of the
ground rod.

Putting a good filter between your house and the meter should
work in theory. But to really expect it to work you need it to
go down to 30kHz or lower. Plus if you have above ground power
lines, those are now all contaminated by the power supplies.

I recommend buying an MFJ-856 from mfjenterprises.com
or the similar (but no directional antenna) noise meter from
lessEMF. If the meters make that buzz, you can complain
that it's interfering with your ham radio hobby. Then go to the FCC
and they will have to pay $10k per day until they fix it. You
might need a lawyer. There's an outfit called Wilner & associates
that also has equipment and claims to know the ropes of this
problem.

Bill

On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 1:02 AM, Neil <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
>
>
>
> Hi there. Can anyone either point me to or have the specs of the smartmeter
> RF. What RF are they running at? I assume from their site they are running 2
> way RF from the electic meters and 1 way from the gas meters. A friend said
> they are transmitting at 900MHz but I can't find that anywhere.
>
> In short, I have developed a terrible hissing and buzzing in my head which
> coincedentally started the same month they installed the meter in Oct. 09.
> Several other head related symptoms I won't get into. If I leave down as I
> did to go camping several times this past summer it went away, then to
> return as soon as I returned home.
>
> I have seen many Doctors over the past year, all thinking I'm nuts or just
> don't take it serious cause they don't have an answer. It wasn't until a
> local TV News team ran a story a few days back that made connect all the
> dots.
>
> Anyone else suffering this bussing or hissing. I'd love to connect with you
> and discuss more. IF your up to it. This has been life changing.
>
> Neil
>
>
>

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emraware

Re: Hello, I'm new and very curious

Interesting, there's probably much to learn from:
- Ham radio operators (whose equipment is impacted by digital harmonics)
- A/V equipment users (whose sound systems are impacted by AC magnetic fields)

BTW, Bill, you once mentioned something about "ground loops". Is this a problem for EHS and how to avoid or resolve it?

--- In [hidden email], Bill Bruno <wbruno@...> wrote:

>
> According to the CCST.us document it is 902-928MHz.
>
> There will also be a 2.4GHz signal for the consumer's appliances to
> use, but that is probably not enabled yet.
>
> It also claims it only transmits 4 times a day in the initial phase
> of installation. You should get some kind of microwave detector
> and try to verify this (which won't be easy if it really is only every
> six hours).
>
> If that's true you are probably reacting to the RF generated by
> the power supply that powers the digital circuitry. Which
> is also a bit surprising if you already have digital electronics plugged
> in (unless they are more than 10 years old, with linear power supplies).
>
> It is conceivable that you'd feel better if the ground rod at the meter is
> disconnected. If that helps you can try to find a spark gap or
> power safety device to restore the (what little) safety of the
> ground rod.
>
> Putting a good filter between your house and the meter should
> work in theory. But to really expect it to work you need it to
> go down to 30kHz or lower. Plus if you have above ground power
> lines, those are now all contaminated by the power supplies.
>
> I recommend buying an MFJ-856 from mfjenterprises.com
> or the similar (but no directional antenna) noise meter from
> lessEMF. If the meters make that buzz, you can complain
> that it's interfering with your ham radio hobby. Then go to the FCC
> and they will have to pay $10k per day until they fix it. You
> might need a lawyer. There's an outfit called Wilner & associates
> that also has equipment and claims to know the ropes of this
> problem.
>
> Bill
>

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