I believe that is true Rixta. Too much money in it. Just like not finding a cure for cancer. Just treatment. Very troublesome. Loni
--- On Tue, 11/9/10, Rixta Francis <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Rixta Francis <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] what will happen to our kids? To: [hidden email] Date: Tuesday, November 9, 2010, 12:49 PM At the moment I'm reading a book about EMF and somewhere the question was asked when governments will take the problem seriously and take action. The answer was "when the bodies are piling up in the streets". That might be a bit exaggerated, but I think it's close. Too many diseases and physical problems can be attributed to other causes and that's what everyone does so far. It will take a long time and many sick and even dead people before EMF is accepted as very unhealthy and the cause of all the trouble. Rixta >> What's going to happen to our kids? Are they all going to be disabled >> because of big business? > At some point the EMF pollution will become so bad and enough people > will become disabled that something will have to be done about it. > In the meantime, us "canaries" will have to cope as best we can. > > Marc > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > -- Our website: http://members.westnet.com.au/rixta.francis [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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That is why it is important for us to let our voices be heard. Some people will take precautions especially if the message is heard over and over again. Who knows it might spark outrage at the human experiment that is taken place. Maureen ____________________________________________________________ Obama Urges Homeowners to Refinance If you owe under $729k you probably qualify for Obamas Refi Program http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/4cdabf0daf08815bb2cst05duc |
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Hi, Stephen,
I tried contact lenses and couldn't tolerate them. My eyes rejected them by covering them with protein sludge within an hour or 2 of when I put them in. Then I had to keep taking them out and cleaning them. And even when they were clean they made the floaters in my eyes feel more like boulders in front of my eyes. If I am not mistaken, I believe Marc has plastic glasses which have no metal wire in them (except maybe at the hinge)? Maybe these would help you more? Just some food for thought. Sorry to rain on your plans for getting contacts; you certainly can try the contacts if you wish to still go there. Diane --- On Tue, 11/9/10, stephen_vandevijvere <[hidden email]> wrote: From: stephen_vandevijvere <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] Re: PG& E Smart Meters To: [hidden email] Date: Tuesday, November 9, 2010, 9:57 PM > Do you currently have metal dental work or eyeglasses > which contain metal? These may be acting as antennas > and making your symptoms worse. I'm wearing glasses myself, I've noticed the pressure on my nose and ears because of it, worsens my sinnitis-symptoms... The "sinnitis-points" being close to that. So I don't mean the metal from my glasses... (although I'm sure that's no good either!)... Gonna try lenses... That will be a struggle everyday! ;-) Stephen. --- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote: > > > I am going crazy from the high pitch noise. No one else > > hears it so they all thing I’m crazy. > > Do you currently have metal dental work or eyeglasses > which contain metal? These may be acting as antennas > and making your symptoms worse. > > And while we talk about Wi-Max and Smart Meters, > don't forget about "4G" cell phone towers, which > are supposed to be worse from a health standpoint > than 3G. :-( > > Marc > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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> If I am not mistaken, I believe Marc has plastic glasses which have no
> metal wire in them (except maybe at the hinge)? Actually, I have contact lenses... :-) I think it was Shivani who found metal-free eyeglasses, without a wire inside the plastic and without metal hinges/screws. I've never run across such a thing, although I'd be happy to buy some reading glasses like that. Marc |
Oh, sorry, Marc. Yes, now that I think of it, I remember you discussing it with Shivani.
Thanks for setting that straight, Diane --- On Wed, 11/10/10, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Eyeglasses To: [hidden email] Date: Wednesday, November 10, 2010, 12:35 PM > If I am not mistaken, I believe Marc has plastic glasses which have no > metal wire in them (except maybe at the hinge)? Actually, I have contact lenses... :-) I think it was Shivani who found metal-free eyeglasses, without a wire inside the plastic and without metal hinges/screws. I've never run across such a thing, although I'd be happy to buy some reading glasses like that. Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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You wouldn't by any chance remember when Sivani posted that about the plastic metal free glasses because I have had to stop wearing my glasses for about the last 2 years re the ES and am fiding that I think I need to wear them and would like to know where to get some metal free ones - I have scoured the stores here and every time you come across a promising pair, on closer inspection they have metal in them. best wishes Steph ________________________________ From: Evie <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Wed, 10 November, 2010 18:46:09 Subject: Re: [eSens] Eyeglasses Oh, sorry, Marc. Yes, now that I think of it, I remember you discussing it with Shivani. Thanks for setting that straight, Diane --- On Wed, 11/10/10, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Eyeglasses To: [hidden email] Date: Wednesday, November 10, 2010, 12:35 PM > If I am not mistaken, I believe Marc has plastic glasses which have no > metal wire in them (except maybe at the hinge)? Actually, I have contact lenses... :-) I think it was Shivani who found metal-free eyeglasses, without a wire inside the plastic and without metal hinges/screws. I've never run across such a thing, although I'd be happy to buy some reading glasses like that. Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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> You wouldn't by any chance remember when Sivani posted that about the
> plastic metal free glasses I found the post: "the all-plastic glasses are made by www.italee.com. I got them in Appleton, WI at a place called Faces." I did a bit of searching at the time, but could not find online any reference to all-plastic glasses made by that manufacturer. Marc |
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Yes, Marc, the all-plastic glasses are made by www.italee.com. I remember now that you mention it. I got them in Appleton, WI at a place called Faces. Only place in WI that carried them. I am wearing the same pair for 3 years now and very happy with them. My physician, who is also ES, got a pair at the same time and is still wearing his happily, also. Good time to mention that I have leaned to massage my eye muscles with a Q-tip, to release tension. It hurts when you do it, but it is the unnatural tightening of those muscles that causes vision problems, according to Bates of the Bates method. When I spend long hours on the computer sometimes my eyes hurt, and I notice that I am not seeing clearly and wonder if I need new glasses. Then I work on the muscles, and my eyes don't hurt anymore and I see clearly! Shivani www.LifeEnergies.com --- On Thu, 11/11/10, Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Eyeglasses To: [hidden email] Date: Thursday, November 11, 2010, 11:42 AM Hi Diane You wouldn't by any chance remember when Sivani posted that about the plastic metal free glasses because I have had to stop wearing my glasses for about the last 2 years re the ES and am fiding that I think I need to wear them and would like to know where to get some metal free ones - I have scoured the stores here and every time you come across a promising pair, on closer inspection they have metal in them. best wishes Steph ________________________________ From: Evie <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Wed, 10 November, 2010 18:46:09 Subject: Re: [eSens] Eyeglasses Oh, sorry, Marc. Yes, now that I think of it, I remember you discussing it with Shivani. Thanks for setting that straight, Diane --- On Wed, 11/10/10, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Eyeglasses To: [hidden email] Date: Wednesday, November 10, 2010, 12:35 PM > If I am not mistaken, I believe Marc has plastic glasses which have no > metal wire in them (except maybe at the hinge)? Actually, I have contact lenses... :-) I think it was Shivani who found metal-free eyeglasses, without a wire inside the plastic and without metal hinges/screws. I've never run across such a thing, although I'd be happy to buy some reading glasses like that. Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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There are metal free eyeglass frames out there for prescriptions. I believe they're called diaelectric frames. They're meant for electricians and the like because they're non-conductive. Most of them are and look very much like safety glasses so they may not be appropriate for wearing full time. But, for wearing when on the computer or in high emf environments they are a great solution. You can see a few styles at http://www.rx-safety.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=727 and http://www.industrialvisioncorp.com/eye-safety-products/non-conductive.html. They sell them at select optical stores. The Titmus SW06 will most likely be my next pair of glasses and I'll hopefully look good enough in them to wear them most of the time and just contacts or my old metal glasses during times that they would look inappropriate...like when I dress formally. I have an appointment at a place in my old town next week to get the exam for them. Chakra Eyewear sells a frame called the Takeh that has very minimal metal, made of bamboo wood. Unfortunately they're only reading glasses and can't be filled for a full prescription. Here and there on the net you may also be able to find other frames in natural materials like wood and bone but often docs shy away from or can not fill them as prescriptions if you buy them elsewhere. Deidra |
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--- On Thu, 11/11/10, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Eyeglasses To: [hidden email] Date: Thursday, November 11, 2010, 12:19 PM > You wouldn't by any chance remember when Sivani posted that about the > plastic metal free glasses I found the post: "the all-plastic glasses are made by www.italee.com. I got them in Appleton, WI at a place called Faces." I did a bit of searching at the time, but could not find online any reference to all-plastic glasses made by that manufacturer. Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Hi Marc,
I just checked the italee.com website, it appears that it is the SWISSFLEX line using the MARSYDUR high performance polymer. Definitely interested in a pair of these frames myself, will look more into it now. I have metal frames and some years ago was advised a way to reduce the EMF problem by affixing small ATTI tachyon minicells to the frame in specific places, the bridge on the nose has the greatest impact, because it corrects the meridian blockage when metal is placed there, however it also helps a lot to affix cells on the sides. The difference to me is remarkable. I can upload some photos of how to place them, if there is an interest. Many years ago I found that the worst kind of metal frames are the light alloys like titanium, they seem to resonate much more with EMF/MW's. However, I am definitely interested in a pair of MARSYDUR frames, since this would remove all problems with EMF resonance. Cheers, Ole ________________________________ From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Thu, 11 November, 2010 18:19:07 Subject: Re: [eSens] Eyeglasses > You wouldn't by any chance remember when Sivani posted that about the > plastic metal free glasses I found the post: "the all-plastic glasses are made by www.italee.com. I got them in Appleton, WI at a place called Faces." I did a bit of searching at the time, but could not find online any reference to all-plastic glasses made by that manufacturer. Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Olie,
I am very interested in ATTI tachyon minicells to metal frames. I am suffering & need to do something. My merdians are out of balance. Titanium frames are causing great pain. After taking them off I feel better. Can't wear contacts any longer w dryer eyes. I have some questions on the Swissflex glasses. Does it matter if there are screws at the temples or anywhere? I have looked at plastic that has metal inbeded. I understand these don't. http://www.italee.com/swiss/index.htm Are transition changing coatings okay? Thanks for help. Kathy [hidden email] From: Ole Alstrup <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Eyeglasses To: [hidden email] Date: Thursday, November 11, 2010, 8:43 PM Hi Marc, I just checked the italee.com website, it appears that it is the SWISSFLEX line using the MARSYDUR high performance polymer. Definitely interested in a pair of these frames myself, will look more into it now. I have metal frames and some years ago was advised a way to reduce the EMF problem by affixing small ATTI tachyon minicells to the frame in specific places, the bridge on the nose has the greatest impact, because it corrects the meridian blockage when metal is placed there, however it also helps a lot to affix cells on the sides. The difference to me is remarkable. I can upload some photos of how to place them, if there is an interest. Many years ago I found that the worst kind of metal frames are the light alloys like titanium, they seem to resonate much more with EMF/MW's. However, I am definitely interested in a pair of MARSYDUR frames, since this would remove all problems with EMF resonance. Cheers, Ole ________________________________ From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Thu, 11 November, 2010 18:19:07 Subject: Re: [eSens] Eyeglasses > You wouldn't by any chance remember when Sivani posted that about the > plastic metal free glasses I found the post: "the all-plastic glasses are made by www.italee.com. I got them in Appleton, WI at a place called Faces." I did a bit of searching at the time, but could not find online any reference to all-plastic glasses made by that manufacturer. Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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What about temple hinges? http://www.italee.com/swiss/index.htm [hidden email] wrote: Olie, I am very interested in ATTI tachyon minicells to metal frames. I am suffering & need to do something. My merdians are out of balance. Titanium frames are causing great pain. After taking them off I feel better. Can't wear contacts any longer w dryer eyes. I have some questions on the Swissflex glasses. Does it matter if there are screws at the temples or anywhere? I have looked at plastic that has metal inbeded. I understand these don't. http://www.italee.com/swiss/index.htm Are transition changing coatings okay? Thanks for help. Kathy [hidden email] From: Ole Alstrup <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Eyeglasses To: [hidden email] Date: Thursday, November 11, 2010, 8:43 PM Hi Marc, I just checked the italee.com website, it appears that it is the SWISSFLEX line using the MARSYDUR high performance polymer. Definitely interested in a pair of these frames myself, will look more into it now. I have metal frames and some years ago was advised a way to reduce the EMF problem by affixing small ATTI tachyon minicells to the frame in specific places, the bridge on the nose has the greatest impact, because it corrects the meridian blockage when metal is placed there, however it also helps a lot to affix cells on the sides. The difference to me is remarkable. I can upload some photos of how to place them, if there is an interest. Many years ago I found that the worst kind of metal frames are the light alloys like titanium, they seem to resonate much more with EMF/MW's. However, I am definitely interested in a pair of MARSYDUR frames, since this would remove all problems with EMF resonance. Cheers, Ole ________________________________ From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Thu, 11 November, 2010 18:19:07 Subject: Re: [eSens] Eyeglasses > You wouldn't by any chance remember when Sivani posted that about the > plastic metal free glasses I found the post: "the all-plastic glasses are made by www.italee.com. I got them in Appleton, WI at a place called Faces." I did a bit of searching at the time, but could not find online any reference to all-plastic glasses made by that manufacturer. Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Hi - go to www.planet-tachyon.com/icare and access the shop for more info on the
minicells. If you are using very thin frames, the cells may not fit. I cant detect any metal used on the Swissflex frames, trying to get more info from the Scandinavian agent in Finland. What are transition coatings? ________________________________ From: KathyB <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Fri, 12 November, 2010 16:11:38 Subject: [eSens] Re: Eyeglasses Olie, I am very interested in ATTI tachyon minicells to metal frames. I am suffering & need to do something. My merdians are out of balance. Titanium frames are causing great pain. After taking them off I feel better. Can't wear contacts any longer w dryer eyes. I have some questions on the Swissflex glasses. Does it matter if there are screws at the temples or anywhere? I have looked at plastic that has metal inbeded. I understand these don't. http://www.italee.com/swiss/index.htm Are transition changing coatings okay? Thanks for help. Kathy [hidden email] From: Ole Alstrup <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Eyeglasses To: [hidden email] Date: Thursday, November 11, 2010, 8:43 PM Hi Marc, I just checked the italee.com website, it appears that it is the SWISSFLEX line using the MARSYDUR high performance polymer. Definitely interested in a pair of these frames myself, will look more into it now. I have metal frames and some years ago was advised a way to reduce the EMF problem by affixing small ATTI tachyon minicells to the frame in specific places, the bridge on the nose has the greatest impact, because it corrects the meridian blockage when metal is placed there, however it also helps a lot to affix cells on the sides. The difference to me is remarkable. I can upload some photos of how to place them, if there is an interest. Many years ago I found that the worst kind of metal frames are the light alloys like titanium, they seem to resonate much more with EMF/MW's. However, I am definitely interested in a pair of MARSYDUR frames, since this would remove all problems with EMF resonance. Cheers, Ole ________________________________ From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Thu, 11 November, 2010 18:19:07 Subject: Re: [eSens] Eyeglasses > You wouldn't by any chance remember when Sivani posted that about the > plastic metal free glasses I found the post: "the all-plastic glasses are made by www.italee.com. I got them in Appleton, WI at a place called Faces." I did a bit of searching at the time, but could not find online any reference to all-plastic glasses made by that manufacturer. Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Olie,
Thanks so much. I can't wait to get the Swiss frames. http://www.eyeglassdirect.com/lenses.html Transitions change color w light exposure, made from polycarbonate. Don't know if a safe option. From: Ole Alstrup <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Eyeglasses To: [hidden email] Date: Friday, November 12, 2010, 9:57 AM Hi - go to www.planet-tachyon.com/icare and access the shop for more info on the minicells. If you are using very thin frames, the cells may not fit. I cant detect any metal used on the Swissflex frames, trying to get more info from the Scandinavian agent in Finland. What are transition coatings? ________________________________ From: KathyB <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Fri, 12 November, 2010 16:11:38 Subject: [eSens] Re: Eyeglasses Olie, I am very interested in ATTI tachyon minicells to metal frames. I am suffering & need to do something. My merdians are out of balance. Titanium frames are causing great pain. After taking them off I feel better. Can't wear contacts any longer w dryer eyes. I have some questions on the Swissflex glasses. Does it matter if there are screws at the temples or anywhere? I have looked at plastic that has metal inbeded. I understand these don't. http://www.italee.com/swiss/index.htm Are transition changing coatings okay? Thanks for help. Kathy [hidden email] From: Ole Alstrup <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Eyeglasses To: [hidden email] Date: Thursday, November 11, 2010, 8:43 PM Hi Marc, I just checked the italee.com website, it appears that it is the SWISSFLEX line using the MARSYDUR high performance polymer. Definitely interested in a pair of these frames myself, will look more into it now. I have metal frames and some years ago was advised a way to reduce the EMF problem by affixing small ATTI tachyon minicells to the frame in specific places, the bridge on the nose has the greatest impact, because it corrects the meridian blockage when metal is placed there, however it also helps a lot to affix cells on the sides. The difference to me is remarkable. I can upload some photos of how to place them, if there is an interest. Many years ago I found that the worst kind of metal frames are the light alloys like titanium, they seem to resonate much more with EMF/MW's. However, I am definitely interested in a pair of MARSYDUR frames, since this would remove all problems with EMF resonance. Cheers, Ole ________________________________ From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Thu, 11 November, 2010 18:19:07 Subject: Re: [eSens] Eyeglasses > You wouldn't by any chance remember when Sivani posted that about the > plastic metal free glasses I found the post: "the all-plastic glasses are made by www.italee.com. I got them in Appleton, WI at a place called Faces." I did a bit of searching at the time, but could not find online any reference to all-plastic glasses made by that manufacturer. Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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> Hi - go to www.planet-tachyon.com/icare and access the shop for more info
> on the > minicells. If you are using very thin frames, the cells may not fit. Do you have a photo of what your glasses look like showing the tachyon cells on them? Note that not everyone responds so favorably to tachyon stuff. I find it makes my EMF sensitivity worse, but I have found it useful for other things (energy, stamina) Marc |
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> Titanium frames are
causing great pain. After taking them off I feel better. Kathy, I also feel better when I take off my glasses, but in my case it's because I have sinusitis and the glasses press on "close-to-sinusitis-points"... I'm mentioning this because maybe it's the same thing with you (and not so much the material: titanium)... Stephen. --- In [hidden email], KathyB <calicocat477@...> wrote: > > Olie, > > I am very interested in ATTI tachyon minicells to metal frames. I am suffering & need to do something. My merdians are out of balance. Titanium frames are causing great pain. After taking them off I feel better. Can't wear contacts any longer w dryer eyes. > > I have some questions on the Swissflex glasses. Does it matter if there are screws at the temples or anywhere? I have looked at plastic that has metal inbeded. I understand these don't. > > http://www.italee.com/swiss/index.htm > > Are transition changing coatings okay? > > Thanks for help. > > Kathy > calicocat477@... > > From: Ole Alstrup <alstrup@...> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Eyeglasses > To: [hidden email] > Date: Thursday, November 11, 2010, 8:43 PM > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Hi Marc, > > > > I just checked the italee.com website, it appears that it is the SWISSFLEX line > > using the MARSYDUR high performance polymer. Definitely interested in a pair of > > these frames myself, will look more into it now. > > I have metal frames and some years ago was advised a way to reduce the EMF > > problem by affixing small ATTI tachyon minicells to the frame in specific > > places, the bridge on the nose has the greatest impact, because > > it corrects the meridian blockage when metal is placed there, however it also > > helps a lot to affix cells on the sides. The difference to me is remarkable. I > > can upload some photos of how to place them, if there is an interest. Many years > > ago I found that the worst kind of metal frames are the light alloys like > > titanium, they seem to resonate much more with EMF/MW's. However, I am > > definitely interested in a pair of MARSYDUR frames, > > since this would remove all problems with EMF resonance.  > > > > Cheers, > > > > Ole > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Marc Martin <marc@...> > > To: [hidden email] > > Sent: Thu, 11 November, 2010 18:19:07 > > Subject: Re: [eSens] Eyeglasses > > > >  > > > You wouldn't by any chance remember when Sivani posted that about the > > > plastic metal free glasses > > > > I found the post: > > > > "the all-plastic glasses are made by www.italee.com. I got them in > > Appleton, WI at a place called Faces." > > > > I did a bit of searching at the time, but could not find online any > > reference to all-plastic glasses made by that manufacturer. > > > > Marc > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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THanks for the information Marc.
BW Steph ________________________________ From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Thu, 11 November, 2010 17:19:07 Subject: Re: [eSens] Eyeglasses > You wouldn't by any chance remember when Sivani posted that about the > plastic metal free glasses I found the post: "the all-plastic glasses are made by www.italee.com. I got them in Appleton, WI at a place called Faces." I did a bit of searching at the time, but could not find online any reference to all-plastic glasses made by that manufacturer. Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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My glasses are indeed all plastic, no metal scews. I tried the URL to Italee.com that someone posted, but cannot navigate the site, so don't know what they are offering presently. Personally, I trust avoidance over gizmos that supposedly change how I respond to exposure. I choose non-metal frames over metal ones with stick-on thingies, pendants, pills, etc. Shivani Arjuna www.LifeEnergies.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Thanks so much. I had trouble w the site too. Does this make any sense to anyone? In desperation I wrapped paper clips around the side pieces, temples? & getting a little relief until I replace them. From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> : [eSens] Re: Eyeglasses My glasses are indeed all plastic, no metal scews. I tried the URL to Italee.com that someone posted, but cannot navigate the site, so don't know what they are offering presently. Personally, I trust avoidance over gizmos that supposedly change how I respond to exposure. I choose non-metal frames over metal ones with stick-on thingies, pendants, pills, etc. Shivani Arjuna www.LifeEnergies.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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