QLINK Ally or Clearwave Clock: wanted!

> I guess I could try it since there's a money back guarantee. Is there
> anything else you can think of that could help or is the Quantum Home the
> best option to try?

For me, some of the pendant-type stuff that you wear on your person to
increase your resistance to EMF can be helpful.  There's several things
to try in this area -- The Mega-Chi pendant, the Earthcalm Resonator,
the Personal Polarizer at cutcat.com, Springlife Polarizers at
choosecra.com (you probably need to phone to see if they have
any left), Tachyonized silica discs from Advanced Tachyon
Tech, etc.  You could try two options -- putting these on yourself,
and putting them as close as possible to the Smart Meters.  For
the Quantum Home, I'd place the unit as close as possible to
the Smart Meters (there is also the more expensive Quantum
Pro, which is stronger than the Quantum Home, but it's possible
that neither or either would work)

Marc

Thanks. have you ever heard of iReflex? I just saw it advertised on TV.
Steve

--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote:

> Thanks. have you ever heard of iReflex? I just saw it advertised on TV.
> Steve

I have not heard of iReflex, and a quick Google search reveals nothing
relevant to EMF protection... (?)

Marc

The commercial seems to focus on muscle balance and energy. I guess its not emf related.

--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote:
>
> > Thanks. have you ever heard of iReflex? I just saw it advertised on TV.
> > Steve
>
> I have not heard of iReflex, and a quick Google search reveals nothing
> relevant to EMF protection... (?)
>
> Marc
>

Hi there. Can anyone either point me to or have the specs of the smartmeter RF. What RF are they running at? I assume from their site they are running 2 way RF from the electic meters and 1 way from the gas meters. A friend said they are transmitting at 900MHz but I can't find that anywhere.

In short, I have developed a terrible hissing and buzzing in my head which coincedentally started the same month they installed the meter in Oct. 09. Several other head related symptoms I won't get into. If I leave down as I did to go camping several times this past summer it went away, then to return as soon as I returned home.

I have seen many Doctors over the past year, all thinking I'm nuts or just don't take it serious cause they don't have an answer. It wasn't until a local TV News team ran a story a few days back that made connect all the dots.

Anyone else suffering this bussing or hissing. I'd love to connect with you and discuss more. IF your up to it. This has been life changing.

Neil

Hey Neil, That is the test! Does it go away when you elimate the toxin? (Camping trips)
 
I didn't have the hissing but I had runny nose (inflammation) & my head hurt so bad it was untolerable. Like my brains were getting sucked out of my head. Severe fatigue. I was bed ridden.
 
What happened with the news story?. Can we see that story on youtube by any chance?
 
All of our symptoms will be be different due to our own personal weaknesses. The point being is that the smart meters are very damaging.
 
Loni

--- On Sun, 11/7/10, Neil <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Neil <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Hello, I'm new and very curious
To: [hidden email]
Date: Sunday, November 7, 2010, 12:02 AM


 





Hi there. Can anyone either point me to or have the specs of the smartmeter RF. What RF are they running at? I assume from their site they are running 2 way RF from the electic meters and 1 way from the gas meters. A friend said they are transmitting at 900MHz but I can't find that anywhere.

In short, I have developed a terrible hissing and buzzing in my head which coincedentally started the same month they installed the meter in Oct. 09. Several other head related symptoms I won't get into. If I leave down as I did to go camping several times this past summer it went away, then to return as soon as I returned home.

I have seen many Doctors over the past year, all thinking I'm nuts or just don't take it serious cause they don't have an answer. It wasn't until a local TV News team ran a story a few days back that made connect all the dots.

Anyone else suffering this bussing or hissing. I'd love to connect with you and discuss more. IF your up to it. This has been life changing.

Neil









     

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Hi Neil,

You are not alone with life changing "tinitus" and the accompanying
other disabling symptoms.

If you are new here, there was an excellent post back on Oct.18 by Sandi
regarding smart meters.
Here is a link:
http://esens.966376.n3.nabble.com/smart-meter-test-tp1722552p1727015.html

I'm having enough trouble with WiFi here, I don't need any Smart Meters too.

Regarding the frequency, it seems to me it would be easier to use the
existing cel-phone frequencies, GSM-850 (869-894MHz downlink, 824-849MHz
uplink from meter).
Otherwise there would have to be additional infrastructure (towers and
antennas) to cover their equipment.

Stewart
http://seaHorseCorral.org/ehs1.html
--

> Anyone else suffering this bussing or hissing. I'd love to connect with you and discuss more. IF your up to it. This has been life changing.
>  

Hi Stewart, Thanks for understanding.

I do believe something for sure near or around my home is the instigator.

I am now going to build a case to convince myself I need to move somewhere
noise free.

 

I asked about the frequency that PG&E is using? Do you know where I can find
info specific to PG&E other than their site? I have looked there and they
don't mention the wireless frequesncy they use.

 

Thanks again to all.

If anyone also has tinnitus or high buzzing I'd like to hear from you.

Thanks

Neil

 

 

From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of S
Andreason
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 4:24 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [eSens] Hello, I'm new and very curious

 

 

Hi Neil,

You are not alone with life changing "tinitus" and the accompanying
other disabling symptoms.

If you are new here, there was an excellent post back on Oct.18 by Sandi
regarding smart meters.
Here is a link:
http://esens.966376.n3.nabble.com/smart-meter-test-tp1722552p1727015.html

I'm having enough trouble with WiFi here, I don't need any Smart Meters too.

Regarding the frequency, it seems to me it would be easier to use the
existing cel-phone frequencies, GSM-850 (869-894MHz downlink, 824-849MHz
uplink from meter).
Otherwise there would have to be additional infrastructure (towers and
antennas) to cover their equipment.

Stewart
http://seaHorseCorral.org/ehs1.html
--

> Anyone else suffering this bussing or hissing. I'd love to connect with
you and discuss more. IF your up to it. This has been life changing.
>





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Hi Loni,

It was the preceding ads to the TV story that caught my eye. But then I saw the story which I was honestly disappointed with as it had nothing in depth at all. Just brushed the surface. When I was hoping they’d get to the real story of those suffering. Not sure if it’s on YouTube, but it was called “Smartmeters or Sick meters?” on KCRA Sacramento station. You may want to look it up.

 

I want to learn all about PG&E meters. If anyone knows or has info please let me know.

 

Neil

 

From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Loni
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 12:19 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [eSens] Hello, I'm new and very curious

 

 

Hey Neil, That is the test! Does it go away when you elimate the toxin? (Camping trips)
 
I didn't have the hissing but I had runny nose (inflammation) & my head hurt so bad it was untolerable. Like my brains were getting sucked out of my head. Severe fatigue. I was bed ridden.
 
What happened with the news story?. Can we see that story on youtube by any chance?
 
All of our symptoms will be be different due to our own personal weaknesses. The point being is that the smart meters are very damaging.
 
Loni

--- On Sun, 11/7/10, Neil <[hidden email] <mailto:ndrofca%40comcast.net> > wrote:

From: Neil <[hidden email] <mailto:ndrofca%40comcast.net> >
Subject: [eSens] Hello, I'm new and very curious
To: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sunday, November 7, 2010, 12:02 AM

 

Hi there. Can anyone either point me to or have the specs of the smartmeter RF. What RF are they running at? I assume from their site they are running 2 way RF from the electic meters and 1 way from the gas meters. A friend said they are transmitting at 900MHz but I can't find that anywhere.

In short, I have developed a terrible hissing and buzzing in my head which coincedentally started the same month they installed the meter in Oct. 09. Several other head related symptoms I won't get into. If I leave down as I did to go camping several times this past summer it went away, then to return as soon as I returned home.

I have seen many Doctors over the past year, all thinking I'm nuts or just don't take it serious cause they don't have an answer. It wasn't until a local TV News team ran a story a few days back that made connect all the dots.

Anyone else suffering this bussing or hissing. I'd love to connect with you and discuss more. IF your up to it. This has been life changing.

Neil

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Hey Neil Did you get the articles on the banning the PG& E smart meters in Cali?  Loni

On Sun, 11/7/10, Neil R <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Neil R <[hidden email]>
Subject: RE: [eSens] Hello, I'm new and very curious
To: [hidden email]
Date: Sunday, November 7, 2010, 9:07 PM


 



Hi Loni,

It was the preceding ads to the TV story that caught my eye. But then I saw the story which I was honestly disappointed with as it had nothing in depth at all. Just brushed the surface. When I was hoping they’d get to the real story of those suffering. Not sure if it’s on YouTube, but it was called “Smartmeters or Sick meters?” on KCRA Sacramento station. You may want to look it up.

I want to learn all about PG&E meters. If anyone knows or has info please let me know.

Neil

From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Loni
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 12:19 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [eSens] Hello, I'm new and very curious

Hey Neil, That is the test! Does it go away when you elimate the toxin? (Camping trips)

I didn't have the hissing but I had runny nose (inflammation) & my head hurt so bad it was untolerable. Like my brains were getting sucked out of my head. Severe fatigue. I was bed ridden.

What happened with the news story?. Can we see that story on youtube by any chance?

All of our symptoms will be be different due to our own personal weaknesses. The point being is that the smart meters are very damaging.

Loni

--- On Sun, 11/7/10, Neil <[hidden email] <mailto:ndrofca%40comcast.net> > wrote:

From: Neil <[hidden email] <mailto:ndrofca%40comcast.net> >
Subject: [eSens] Hello, I'm new and very curious
To: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sunday, November 7, 2010, 12:02 AM

Hi there. Can anyone either point me to or have the specs of the smartmeter RF. What RF are they running at? I assume from their site they are running 2 way RF from the electic meters and 1 way from the gas meters. A friend said they are transmitting at 900MHz but I can't find that anywhere.

In short, I have developed a terrible hissing and buzzing in my head which coincedentally started the same month they installed the meter in Oct. 09. Several other head related symptoms I won't get into. If I leave down as I did to go camping several times this past summer it went away, then to return as soon as I returned home.

I have seen many Doctors over the past year, all thinking I'm nuts or just don't take it serious cause they don't have an answer. It wasn't until a local TV News team ran a story a few days back that made connect all the dots.

Anyone else suffering this bussing or hissing. I'd love to connect with you and discuss more. IF your up to it. This has been life changing.

Neil

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I am very interested in anything about PG&E and the WiMax, and Cell Towers in general.

My symptoms seem to be getting worse and worse as time goes on. I currently live in Tracy Ca. I plan to find out how much EMF is running here locally from the Meters, and towers, and more. I notice my symptoms get better or worse depending where I go, whether it be out of town or down the street. I am going crazy from the high pitch noise. No one else hears it so they all thing I’m crazy. Like a dog hearing a certain pitch whistle.

Thanks for any links you can provide. Again, I am trying to find out what Frequency the PG&E meters use. Anyone know?

 

Thanks

Neil

 

 

From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Loni
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 7:17 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: RE: [eSens] PG& E Smart Meters

 

 

Hey Neil Did you get the articles on the banning the PG& E smart meters in Cali?  Loni

On Sun, 11/7/10, Neil R <[hidden email] <mailto:ndrofca%40comcast.net> > wrote:

From: Neil R <[hidden email] <mailto:ndrofca%40comcast.net> >
Subject: RE: [eSens] Hello, I'm new and very curious
To: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sunday, November 7, 2010, 9:07 PM

 

Hi Loni,

It was the preceding ads to the TV story that caught my eye. But then I saw the story which I was honestly disappointed with as it had nothing in depth at all. Just brushed the surface. When I was hoping they’d get to the real story of those suffering. Not sure if it’s on YouTube, but it was called “Smartmeters or Sick meters?” on KCRA Sacramento station. You may want to look it up.

I want to learn all about PG&E meters. If anyone knows or has info please let me know.

Neil

From: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>  [mailto:[hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Loni
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 12:19 PM
To: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Hello, I'm new and very curious

Hey Neil, That is the test! Does it go away when you elimate the toxin? (Camping trips)

I didn't have the hissing but I had runny nose (inflammation) & my head hurt so bad it was untolerable. Like my brains were getting sucked out of my head. Severe fatigue. I was bed ridden.

What happened with the news story?. Can we see that story on youtube by any chance?

All of our symptoms will be be different due to our own personal weaknesses. The point being is that the smart meters are very damaging.

Loni

--- On Sun, 11/7/10, Neil <[hidden email] <mailto:ndrofca%40comcast.net>  <mailto:ndrofca%40comcast.net> > wrote:

From: Neil <[hidden email] <mailto:ndrofca%40comcast.net>  <mailto:ndrofca%40comcast.net> >
Subject: [eSens] Hello, I'm new and very curious
To: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>  <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sunday, November 7, 2010, 12:02 AM

Hi there. Can anyone either point me to or have the specs of the smartmeter RF. What RF are they running at? I assume from their site they are running 2 way RF from the electic meters and 1 way from the gas meters. A friend said they are transmitting at 900MHz but I can't find that anywhere.

In short, I have developed a terrible hissing and buzzing in my head which coincedentally started the same month they installed the meter in Oct. 09. Several other head related symptoms I won't get into. If I leave down as I did to go camping several times this past summer it went away, then to return as soon as I returned home.

I have seen many Doctors over the past year, all thinking I'm nuts or just don't take it serious cause they don't have an answer. It wasn't until a local TV News team ran a story a few days back that made connect all the dots.

Anyone else suffering this bussing or hissing. I'd love to connect with you and discuss more. IF your up to it. This has been life changing.

Neil

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> I am going crazy from the high pitch noise. No one else
> hears it so they all thing I’m crazy.

Do you currently have metal dental work or eyeglasses
which contain metal?  These may be acting as antennas
and making your symptoms worse.

And while we talk about Wi-Max and Smart Meters,
don't forget about "4G" cell phone towers, which
are supposed to be worse from a health standpoint
than 3G.  :-(

Marc

Wow Marc, I have both. I have an old filling in one tooth and I recently had to start wear glasses full time. Seems as the noise gets worse my vision gets worse.

I’m really getting scared now. Why, cause I am the reason they make all this stuff. I’m a 52 year old computer engineer who loves technology. I’ve been in the computer business for 33+ years. Computers in my house since the early 80’s. Now it feels like it’s all turning against me. I knew the day we severed the wires and went wireless people were gonna pay.

 

My house is a breeding ground I’m sure.  I have 2 plasma TV’s, 50 and 60 inch. I have several computers, home wireless phones, wifi throughout the house.

My smartphone is 4G capable(I have it turned off) and wifi, but this means the area I live in now supports it.  All houses in this large housing development are equipped with smartmeters, both electric and gas. This means 2 per house.  This is just the big stuff. Somehow I think I am being overwhelmed. Like last year I hit my limit when they installed the smartmeters, along with towers and such none of us are aware have even gone up.

 

Thanks for your help,

Neil

 

From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Marc Martin
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 12:17 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: RE: [eSens] PG& E Smart Meters

 

 

> I am going crazy from the high pitch noise. No one else
> hears it so they all thing I’m crazy.

Do you currently have metal dental work or eyeglasses
which contain metal? These may be acting as antennas
and making your symptoms worse.

And while we talk about Wi-Max and Smart Meters,
don't forget about "4G" cell phone towers, which
are supposed to be worse from a health standpoint
than 3G. :-(

Marc





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> Wow Marc, I have both. I have an old filling in one tooth and I recently
> had to start wear glasses full time.

You might be able to rather immediately get rid of some symptoms by having
the metal filling removed (but please find a "holistic" dentist who will
minimize your exposure to mercury fumes during the removal) and getting
plastic framed glasses (although most plastic framed glasses have a
metal wire inside the plastic).

> I’m really getting scared now. Why, cause I am the reason they make all
> this stuff. I’m a 52 year old computer engineer who loves technology.
> I’ve been in the computer business for 33+ years. Computers in my house
> since the early 80’s. Now it feels like it’s all turning against me.

I can relate -- I love technology, and spend a huge amount of time on
the computer, and have so since the 1980s.  You'll just need to make
some alterations to make your symptoms more tolerable.

> My house is a breeding ground I’m sure.  I have 2 plasma TV’s, 50 and 60
> inch. I have several computers, home wireless phones, wifi throughout the
> house.

Yikes... I can't stand being near plasma TVs, so have had to limit myself
to LCD.  Wireless phones should be replaced with wired phones, wi-fi
should be replaced with ethernet cables.  Also, dimmer switches should
be replaced with regular on/off switches (or at least high-quality
shielded dimmer switches), and compact fluorescent lights should be
replaced by incandescents or LED.

And you're right, it's probably not just the smart meter that's bothering
you, but all of the various exposures you've got going on 24/7.  
Eliminating/reducing the exposures you have direct control over will
help you cope with the exposures you have no control over.

Marc

> Yikes... I can't stand being near plasma TVs, so have had to limit myself
> to LCD.  Wireless phones should be replaced with wired phones, wi-fi
> should be replaced with ethernet cables.  Also, dimmer switches should
> be replaced with regular on/off switches (or at least high-quality
> shielded dimmer switches), and compact fluorescent lights should be
> replaced by incandescents or LED.

Oh, and innerspring mattress and/or metal bed frames should be replaced
with non-metal versions (latex, air, memory foam mattress and wood frame)

Marc

Radio-frequelncy broadcasting utility meters vary regarding both the
frequency at which they broadcast and the frequency (timing interval) of the
broadcasts.   And some "piggy-back," meaning they pick up then pass along signal
from other homes, so that in fact they broadcast much more frequently than
the company usually lets on.

Ask your utility company what RF their particular meters broadcast at, and
how often.   This is no secret.    However, that said, the person at our
electric utility company appointed specifically to talk to people and assure
them that the meters are not harmful either did not have her facts straight or
gave me misinformation on purpose.   So you may want to double check by
also contacting your Public Service Commission.    They are no doubt
policically married to the utility company, but should be able to answer technical
questions.

Shivani Arjuna
www.LifeEnergies.com


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Hi Shivani,

This is why I have not contacted PG&E yet. I was thinking and hoping someone
already had found this information out.

I will see if I can find it out as you suggest. If so, I will post of for
others.

 

Neil

 

From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
[hidden email]
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 6:01 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [eSens] Re: Hello, I'm new and very curious

 

 

Radio-frequelncy broadcasting utility meters vary regarding both the
frequency at which they broadcast and the frequency (timing interval) of the

broadcasts. And some "piggy-back," meaning they pick up then pass along
signal
from other homes, so that in fact they broadcast much more frequently than
the company usually lets on.

Ask your utility company what RF their particular meters broadcast at, and
how often. This is no secret. However, that said, the person at our
electric utility company appointed specifically to talk to people and assure

them that the meters are not harmful either did not have her facts straight
or
gave me misinformation on purpose. So you may want to double check by
also contacting your Public Service Commission. They are no doubt
policically married to the utility company, but should be able to answer
technical
questions.

Shivani Arjuna
www.LifeEnergies.com

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> This is why I have not contacted PG&E yet. I was thinking and hoping
> someone already had found this information out.

Based on the PG&E news stories I've seen so far (via YouTube), I'd
guess that if you ask 3 people at PG&E any question about smart
meters, you'll get 3 different answers.  And probably all of them
will be wrong!

Marc

> Based on the PG&E news stories I've seen so far (via YouTube), I'd
> guess that if you ask 3 people at PG&E any question about smart
> meters, you'll get 3 different answers.  And probably all of them
> will be wrong!

A quick search online yields the following:

Network Frequency: 900 Mhz according to Silverspring, but PG&E thinks
transmission is in the 460 Mhz frequency band. I am voting for the
900 MHz band, however the PG&E documents provided to the CPUC indicate
a licensed dedicated frequency will be used.  The 900 Mhz band is for
unlicensed use, shared with hundreds of other users from radio
controlled toys to wireless phones.  More research is needed.

This is from:

http://ncwatch.typepad.com/media/2010/06/smartmeter-update-coming-to-nevada-county-in-june-through-september.html


Another source:

The frequency used is the 900 to 928 MHz. spread spectrum band (microwave).
I cannot find a published spec sheet, which adds to the rampant speculation.

Source: http://www.vaughns-1-pagers.com/science/ge-wattmeter.htm

Another source:

PG&E’s electric SmartMeters™ operate in the 902-928 MHz frequency-band to
communicate customer electricity-usage to PG&E. PG&E’s gas SmartMeters™
operate in the 450-470 MHz frequency-band to communicate customer
gas-usage to PG&E.

Source: http://www.pge.com/myhome/edusafety/systemworks/rf/faq/

Marc

My mattress has some hotzones in it. Metal frame, innerspring mattress and boxspring. What do you use for a bed and is it comfortable? I'm considering a thick futon and wood frame.
Steve

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