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Independent Assessment of Bioprotect Card

Marc Martin
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Hi all,

Dietrich Gruen was kind enough to send me a sample Bioprotect card. Since
I am not very electrically sensitive anymore, I decided to first send it to
Linda Townsend at Bioharmonics.com so that she could test it. I think
Linda considers herself electrically sensitive, and has been assessing a
variety of EMF protection devices on the market for the past decade. As a
result of this, she uses and sells Springlife Polarizers.

I cannot claim to fully understand Linda's method of testing, but I can
summarize it for those who do not wish to spend hours reading her website
(Bioharmonics.com). She believes that all illnesses can be thought of as
deficiencies in frequencies, and if the body is provided with a full
spectrum of biocompatible frequencies, it can heal itself from a variety of
conditions. Her method of testing seems to determine whether or not a
complete spectrum of biocompatible frequencies are being supplied. And
when referring to the spectrum, she maps frequencies to colors in the
visible light spectrum, so that she makes sure that there is a balanced
supply of "blue" harmonics, "red" harmonics, etc. Although this sounds
rather strange, I did some research and found that she based some of her
work on Spectrochrome color therapy that was used in 1920 by Dinshah
(although Dinshah used actual colored lights, not harmonic frequencies of
it):

http://www.wrf.org/news/news0004.htm

Linda's assessment of many of the popular EMF devices on the market is that
while they may make you feel better, they are unfortunately disabling the
natural healing mechanisms in your body. She views many of them as simply
masking symptoms -- like when you take an aspirin for a headache -- and are
not addressing the underlying health problem.

Unfortunately, the assessment she sent me for the Bioprotect Card was also
negative. She felt that this card disables your body's natural healing
mechanisms. As for people who are using this card and reporting relief of
symptoms, she feels that these people must be mostly unhealthy to start
with, and the card is simply feeding their addiction for unhealthy energy.
So, one could compare this to a caffeine addict needing their morning drink
of coffee, or a heroine addict who feels better after injecting themselves
with heroine.

She also tested the Bioprotect card using the QXCI, and it gave an allergic
response.

For those interested, I have scanned her full report and uploaded it here:

http://ufoseries.com/bioprotect

Note that in the past I have sent other items to Linda for testing, both
from Earthcalm.com. Her assessment of the Earthcalm resonator was that it
was "mostly beneficial", while her assessment of the Earthcalm Home plug-in
unit was that it was harmful.

Marc

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charles-2
Hello Marc,

when I measure the influence or your Springlife Polarizer with all my
measuring equipment, I cannot find any positive result.
No meter gives any information on its display.
What does this mean?

Nothing!
I just do not have the right measuring equipment.
We are speaking about longitudinal waves.
There is just no meter for them.

Measuring of biocompatible frequencies, as Linda does, is not a system to
determine if longitudinal waves are absorbed or not.
A QXCI machine, how good and wonderfull it works, is not capable of
measuring longitudinal waves.

The best meter at the moment for such things is the human body.
And this body must be electrosensible.
Only an electrosensible person can experience the influence of *things*.
This person should wear this *thing* and undergo RF radiation, and
determines whether there is a diference in reaction or not.
There are meters, that can register the reactions of the body, like
electroacupuncture, or a flimmertest (according to Prof. Dr.-lng. Herbert L.
König), or a Georhytmogramm (according to Dr. Hartmann).

So, in my opinion, at the moment, one can only determine the good or wrong
working of a device over a human body of an electrosensible person.

I like to suggest, that for further testing, you send the Bioprotect card to
other electrosensible persons in this group, who are testing the other
*things*.

I have whitnessed very positive results by a number of electrosensible
persons.
In one case, the effect was there within minutes.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
http://members.rott.chello.nl/cclaessens/
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Marc Martin" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 04:19
Subject: [eSens] Independent Assessment of Bioprotect Card


> Hi all,
>
> Dietrich Gruen was kind enough to send me a sample Bioprotect card. Since
> I am not very electrically sensitive anymore, I decided to first send it
to

> Linda Townsend at Bioharmonics.com so that she could test it. I think
> Linda considers herself electrically sensitive, and has been assessing a
> variety of EMF protection devices on the market for the past decade. As a
> result of this, she uses and sells Springlife Polarizers.
>
> I cannot claim to fully understand Linda's method of testing, but I can
> summarize it for those who do not wish to spend hours reading her website
> (Bioharmonics.com). She believes that all illnesses can be thought of as
> deficiencies in frequencies, and if the body is provided with a full
> spectrum of biocompatible frequencies, it can heal itself from a variety
of

> conditions. Her method of testing seems to determine whether or not a
> complete spectrum of biocompatible frequencies are being supplied. And
> when referring to the spectrum, she maps frequencies to colors in the
> visible light spectrum, so that she makes sure that there is a balanced
> supply of "blue" harmonics, "red" harmonics, etc. Although this sounds
> rather strange, I did some research and found that she based some of her
> work on Spectrochrome color therapy that was used in 1920 by Dinshah
> (although Dinshah used actual colored lights, not harmonic frequencies of
> it):
>
> http://www.wrf.org/news/news0004.htm
>
> Linda's assessment of many of the popular EMF devices on the market is
that
> while they may make you feel better, they are unfortunately disabling the
> natural healing mechanisms in your body. She views many of them as simply
> masking symptoms -- like when you take an aspirin for a headache -- and
are
> not addressing the underlying health problem.
>
> Unfortunately, the assessment she sent me for the Bioprotect Card was also
> negative. She felt that this card disables your body's natural healing
> mechanisms. As for people who are using this card and reporting relief of
> symptoms, she feels that these people must be mostly unhealthy to start
> with, and the card is simply feeding their addiction for unhealthy energy.
> So, one could compare this to a caffeine addict needing their morning
drink
> of coffee, or a heroine addict who feels better after injecting themselves
> with heroine.
>
> She also tested the Bioprotect card using the QXCI, and it gave an
allergic
> response.
>
> For those interested, I have scanned her full report and uploaded it here:
>
> http://ufoseries.com/bioprotect
>
> Note that in the past I have sent other items to Linda for testing, both
> from Earthcalm.com. Her assessment of the Earthcalm resonator was that it
> was "mostly beneficial", while her assessment of the Earthcalm Home
plug-in

> unit was that it was harmful.
>
> Marc
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: Independent Assessment of Bioprotect Card

Marc Martin
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>I have whitnessed very positive results by a number of electrosensible
>persons. In one case, the effect was there within minutes.

I believe this. When I was more sensitive than I am today, I also had
reactions to several devices within minutes.

I don't think she's questioning whether people will have results from this.
I think she's questioning what the effect is on a person's healing
mechanisms, which is a completely separate issue.

Basically, she seems to be saying that the BioProtect card is the energetic
equivalent of taking an aspirin when you have a headache. That is, it
relieves the symptoms, but may not necessarily do anything longterm to
solve the underlying health problem which caused the headache in the first
place.

I think that most of the devices I was using throughout 2001 - 2003 also
fit this category. They provided me relief from my symptoms when I was
around electricity, but after 2 years of doing this, my sensitivity to
electricity had not gone away. That is, if I stopped using the devices,
the adverse symptoms would reappear quickly.

On the other hand, if one finds a solution which allows their body to heal
the underlying cause, then one's sensitivity should also go away, so they
have no need for any devices. This is the kind of solution that I have
been looking for, although I realize not everyone is going to search this
long -- for many, finding symptom relief is good enough. In fact, back in
2001, I also felt that finding symptom relief was good enough, however, as
the years progressed, I changed my mind and decided that I was going to
keep looking until the sensitivities had disappeared completely. And I
seem to be making good progress...

But yes, I will send this card to someone on the list who is still very
sensitive... I have someone in mind already...

Marc

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Re: Independent Assessment of Bioprotect Card

akfixer
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In a message dated 4/27/2004 10:31:06 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[hidden email] writes:
I changed my mind and decided that I was going to
keep looking until the sensitivities had disappeared completely. And I
seem to be making good progress...
//////////////////////////////////////////////

Marc, Proper drinking water holds the key to many chronically ill patients.
In testing compatibility of patients drinking water, I have found near 90
percent of the water they are using is not helpful in strengthening the immune
system to combat ES and other health problems. Bill W


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Re: water

Marc Martin
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> Marc, Proper drinking water holds the key to many chronically ill
> patients. In testing compatibility of patients drinking water, I have
> found near 90 percent of the water they are using is not helpful in
> strengthening the immune system to combat ES and other health problems.
> Bill W

And do you have any specific suggestions? There are a lot of things
to choose from -- the commonly available types of water are
tap water, filtered tap water, bottled spring water, and distilled
water. Then there are a variety of "structured" / "clustered" water
products on the market...

Marc

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akfixer
In a message dated 4/27/2004 12:19:02 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[hidden email] writes:
And do you have any specific suggestions?
?????????????????????????

Marc, Unfortunately there is no"one size fits all". Some "Far out"
procedures I have heard of have had very positive results in many cases. Contact
me off group if you want to discuss this more. Bill W


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Re: Independent Assessment of Bioprotect Card

Marc Martin
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>I have whitnessed very positive results by a number of electrosensible
>persons. In one case, the effect was there within minutes.

By the way, one of the passages I found interesting about her report is
when she says that unhealthy ES people may find relief using this card,
while healthy ES people may find the card agitating.

If found this interesting for 2 reasons:

1) I was of the opinion that if one is truly healthy, that one cannot
have ES. In other words, I consider ES to be a health problem.
However, she is allowing for the possibility of someone who has
ES but is also healthy.

2) A year ago I was using a radar card (http://radar3.com). I haven't
used this for many months, but recently I found my old radar cards
and sent them to an eSens list member. When I was holding these
cards in my hands for just a few minutes, I found them to be
very agitating, although I don't recall having such an immediate
reaction to them last year. So, I guess in her view, in the past
year I've gone from being an unhealthy ES person to a being a
healthy ES person. :-)

Marc

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Re: Independent Assessment of Bioprotect Card

Niels Geurts
Hi Marc,

Did you, being a healthy ES person, feel agitated or irritated when handling the BioProtect Card (as compared to these radar cards)?

Niels
----- Original Message -----
From: Marc Martin
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 11:30 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Independent Assessment of Bioprotect Card


>I have whitnessed very positive results by a number of electrosensible
>persons. In one case, the effect was there within minutes.

By the way, one of the passages I found interesting about her report is
when she says that unhealthy ES people may find relief using this card,
while healthy ES people may find the card agitating.

If found this interesting for 2 reasons:

1) I was of the opinion that if one is truly healthy, that one cannot
have ES. In other words, I consider ES to be a health problem.
However, she is allowing for the possibility of someone who has
ES but is also healthy.

2) A year ago I was using a radar card (http://radar3.com). I haven't
used this for many months, but recently I found my old radar cards
and sent them to an eSens list member. When I was holding these
cards in my hands for just a few minutes, I found them to be
very agitating, although I don't recall having such an immediate
reaction to them last year. So, I guess in her view, in the past
year I've gone from being an unhealthy ES person to a being a
healthy ES person. :-)

Marc

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Re: Independent Assessment of Bioprotect Card

Marc Martin
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>Did you, being a healthy ES person, feel agitated or irritated when
>handling >the BioProtect Card (as compared to these radar cards)?

Yes, I did. Although I don't think it was as severe as the radar cards
(and I'm no longer in possession of either of these to test this further).
However, I've sent them to another eSens member, so hopefully we will get a
second opinion. :-)

I've felt agitated by other EMF protection devices as well. For example,
this one agitated me:

http://www.worldwithoutparasites.com/The_Harmonic_Protector.html

And I tried 2 different of these pendants, which were by far the most
agitating thing I've ever tried:

http://www.toolsforwellness.com/63473.html

With the second group of pendants, the feelings of agitation I had have
been described elsewhere as radiation detox symptoms (feeling of tightness
in the chest, panic attack feelings, etc), and I've gotten similar symptoms
from taking a radiation detox supplement called "Modifilan", and also by
eating chia seeds. Chia seeds are something I'm currently experimenting
with, and I've found that they seem to be beneficial in very small amounts,
increasing my energy and endurance throughout the day, and increasing my
tolerance for EMF. However, if I take too many, then I start getting
discomfort in my chest. If anyone else wants to experiment with chia seeds,
I'd be interested to hear what reaction they cause. I bought mine here:

http://www.celtic-seasalt.com/chiaseeds.html

At my current intake level, I think a one pound bag will last me a
lifetime... :-)

By the way, I was at a health fair this past weekend, and I got my health
tested by a QXCI machine. When I was hooked up to the electrodes and the
tests were being done, I noticed I could feel the electricity in my body
from the test (I believe a non ES person isn't supposed to feel anything).
It wasn't harmful or anything, but I found it interesting that I could feel
it. The results of the tests was that I was healthy -- the practitioner
said that I was the healthiest person she had ever tested!

Marc

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Re: Independent Assessment of Bioprotect Card

charles-2
Hello Marc,

I feel compelled to add some information to your interesting posting for the
other readers.

http://www.worldwithoutparasites.com is the site of Don Croft, who is doing
a lot with *Orgon*
Orgon is the invisible energy beam, first found by Wilhelm reich.
Don Croft has developed his *cloudbuster*, in order to destroy *chemtrails*.
It is in principle an orgon accumulator.
The same goes for his Holy Hand grenades, a conically shaped thing, made of
a resin with quartz cristals.
Holy Hand grenades are used to eliminate the workings of ELF and GWEN
towers, which are to be said are used for mind control.
All manuals for do-it-yourself are on his website.
However, a number of people, who have build them feel that they are working
and give Orgon energy.
A person who has placed them under his bed, has got a brown skin!

A small orgon accumulator is also built-in in his Terminator 2.
This is a small Hulda Clark Zapper, which you can wear 24 hours a day, in
order to kill parasites.

The QXCI is a sophisticated bioresonance machine.
Contact strips are placed around the ankles, wrists and one around the head.
Within 5 minutes, the machine has scanned and evaluated the body.
If it has found irregularities, it can give the necessary frequencies.
It can prescribe homeopathics, but if you place a bottle of water on a
dsiplay, it sends the accompanying frequencies of the homeopathics into the
water.

The used frequencies are high frequencies, of low levels, so normally you
don't feel anything.
Normally, they find something on a person, because nobody is perfect.
I am certainly not. ;o))

The test must be done in a calm surrounding, but at a health fair,
everything is in a hurry.

At my new website, www.milieuziektes.nl I want to explain this stuff
further.
Milieuziektes means environmental illnesses.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.hetbitje.nl
checked by Norton Antivirus




----- Original Message -----
From: "Marc Martin" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 16:03
Subject: Re: [eSens] Independent Assessment of Bioprotect Card


> >Did you, being a healthy ES person, feel agitated or irritated when
> >handling >the BioProtect Card (as compared to these radar cards)?
>
> Yes, I did. Although I don't think it was as severe as the radar cards
> (and I'm no longer in possession of either of these to test this further).
> However, I've sent them to another eSens member, so hopefully we will get
a

> second opinion. :-)
>
> I've felt agitated by other EMF protection devices as well. For example,
> this one agitated me:
>
> http://www.worldwithoutparasites.com/The_Harmonic_Protector.html
>
> And I tried 2 different of these pendants, which were by far the most
> agitating thing I've ever tried:
>
> http://www.toolsforwellness.com/63473.html
>
> With the second group of pendants, the feelings of agitation I had have
> been described elsewhere as radiation detox symptoms (feeling of tightness
> in the chest, panic attack feelings, etc), and I've gotten similar
symptoms
> from taking a radiation detox supplement called "Modifilan", and also by
> eating chia seeds. Chia seeds are something I'm currently experimenting
> with, and I've found that they seem to be beneficial in very small
amounts,
> increasing my energy and endurance throughout the day, and increasing my
> tolerance for EMF. However, if I take too many, then I start getting
> discomfort in my chest. If anyone else wants to experiment with chia
seeds,

> I'd be interested to hear what reaction they cause. I bought mine here:
>
> http://www.celtic-seasalt.com/chiaseeds.html
>
> At my current intake level, I think a one pound bag will last me a
> lifetime... :-)
>
> By the way, I was at a health fair this past weekend, and I got my health
> tested by a QXCI machine. When I was hooked up to the electrodes and the
> tests were being done, I noticed I could feel the electricity in my body
> from the test (I believe a non ES person isn't supposed to feel anything).
> It wasn't harmful or anything, but I found it interesting that I could
feel

> it. The results of the tests was that I was healthy -- the practitioner
> said that I was the healthiest person she had ever tested!
>
> Marc
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: Orgone/QXCI

Marc Martin
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> However, a number of people, who have build them feel that they are
> working and give Orgon energy.

Yes, I could also feel an increase in vitality when trying that
orgone pendant, but I felt that the agitating side effects made
it not worth it. I want the good effects without the negative
side effects!

Note also that their website says that everyone reports good effects
from wearing the pendant, but this is not true. I emailed them about
the bad effects from their pendant. And at that point, they stopped
replying to my emails.

> Normally, they find something on a person, because nobody is perfect.
> I am certainly not. ;o))

The QXCI machine showed that I have a problem with inflamation, which
is true -- I have allergies in the springtime. Personally, I don't
think I'm as healthy as the QXCI machine indicated, but at least
it didn't tell me of any unpleasant, previously unknown problems.

Also at the health fair, they had a booth for the Bioelectric Shield.
I think the people at the booth were the inventor and his wife. I
made sure to tell him that his device didn't work for me. At least
he was curious about what *did* work for me, and I showed him
the Springlife polarizer that I was carrying in my pocket.

Marc

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charles-2
Hello Marc,

we do have the BioElectrical Shield also.

It is a pendant, which contains certain cristals.
It worked very fine, till at a moment, it slurped up negative energy and
started to emit that.

After I placed it for three days on a Purple Plate, it was cleaned and
worked again.
However. the Bioprotect card, which only costs a fraction of this
BioElectrical Shield, has more *Power*.

The german writer Silvio Hellemann, who has written a very interesting
handbook for electrosensibles in german, has described a numer of
anti-electrosmog apparatus.
After I asked him which one he could recommend me, he aswered me: *non*.
Because he had found also, that a lot of them started to emit negative
energy.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.hetbitje.nl
checked by Norton Antivirus




----- Original Message -----
From: "Marc Martin" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 18:16
Subject: Re: [eSens] Orgone/QXCI


> > However, a number of people, who have build them feel that they are
> > working and give Orgon energy.
>
> Yes, I could also feel an increase in vitality when trying that
> orgone pendant, but I felt that the agitating side effects made
> it not worth it. I want the good effects without the negative
> side effects!
>
> Note also that their website says that everyone reports good effects
> from wearing the pendant, but this is not true. I emailed them about
> the bad effects from their pendant. And at that point, they stopped
> replying to my emails.
>
> > Normally, they find something on a person, because nobody is perfect.
> > I am certainly not. ;o))
>
> The QXCI machine showed that I have a problem with inflamation, which
> is true -- I have allergies in the springtime. Personally, I don't
> think I'm as healthy as the QXCI machine indicated, but at least
> it didn't tell me of any unpleasant, previously unknown problems.
>
> Also at the health fair, they had a booth for the Bioelectric Shield.
> I think the people at the booth were the inventor and his wife. I
> made sure to tell him that his device didn't work for me. At least
> he was curious about what *did* work for me, and I showed him
> the Springlife polarizer that I was carrying in my pocket.
>
> Marc
>

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Re: Orgone/QXCI

Marc Martin
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> After I asked him which one he could recommend me, he aswered me: *non*.
> Because he had found also, that a lot of them started to emit negative
> energy.

Yes, but I imagine that this is simply based on his limited experience.
It seems that there are at least 100 EMF protection devices that are
available for sale on the Internet. And although many may work on
similar principles, there are some which appear to be unique. And I
don't think there is anyone who has tried them all -- I know I haven't!

For example, the Springlife Polarizers I've been using for the past
8 months appear to be increasing in their effectiveness, not decreasing.
My theory is that when I originally started using them, a lot of their
energy was being used to fix imbalances in me, and as time went on,
I had fewer imbalances, so the energy could be directed more
at the imbalances in my local environment.

Marc

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charles-2
Hello Marc,

another approach is the explanation of dr. Gruen (for the same thing).

Those *things* are resonators or absorbers of longitudinal waves.
But if your body is a stronger absorber, the function of the *things*
diminishes and they stop working at a certain level of electrosensibility.

On the contrary, the better your situation, and the less electrosensible you
are, the better they function.
And the better you feel.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.hetbitje.nl
checked by Norton Antivirus


----- Original Message -----
From: "Marc Martin" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 18:54
Subject: Re: [eSens] Orgone/QXCI


> > After I asked him which one he could recommend me, he aswered me: *non*.
> > Because he had found also, that a lot of them started to emit negative
> > energy.
>
> Yes, but I imagine that this is simply based on his limited experience.
> It seems that there are at least 100 EMF protection devices that are
> available for sale on the Internet. And although many may work on
> similar principles, there are some which appear to be unique. And I
> don't think there is anyone who has tried them all -- I know I haven't!
>
> For example, the Springlife Polarizers I've been using for the past
> 8 months appear to be increasing in their effectiveness, not decreasing.
> My theory is that when I originally started using them, a lot of their
> energy was being used to fix imbalances in me, and as time went on,
> I had fewer imbalances, so the energy could be directed more
> at the imbalances in my local environment.
>
> Marc
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: Independent Assessment of Bioprotect Card

Niels Geurts
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--- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@u...> wrote:
> >Did you, being a healthy ES person, feel agitated or irritated when
> >handling >the BioProtect Card (as compared to these radar cards)?
>
> Yes, I did. Although I don't think it was as severe as the radar
cards
>
> I've felt agitated by other EMF protection devices as well.

This form of agitation, is this the same as the agitation you feel
when you wear the springlife polarizers (too) long?

Niels

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Re: Independent Assessment of Bioprotect Card

Marc Martin
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> This form of agitation, is this the same as the agitation you feel
> when you wear the springlife polarizers (too) long?

They are similar, but not the same. When I wear a Springlife
Polarizer that is larger than necessary for the current circumstances,
I feel good initially (like for the first couple hours), but
eventually this turns into agitation. This is not the "panic
attack"/chest discomfort agitation though. Instead, it seems more of
a general agitation, along with some dehydration symptoms and a
metallic taste in my mouth. The solution is to either switch to a
smaller sized model, take a break from wearing anything, or put it a
foot away from me.

However, those other devices cause agitation almost immediately (like
within a minute or two), and the agitation is so severe that it's
worse than the EMF exposure! And in the case of the sacred geometry
medallions, I found that my ES symptoms got worse afterwards, and
stayed that way for a couple weeks after I got rid of them.

With the chia seeds, I do get the chest discomfort symptom, which
seems to peak several hours after consuming them and gradually fades
away after that. But at least with these, I can lower my intake to a
level where I only experience the benefits (increased
energy/endurance) without the agitation. But note that this level of
intake is very small -- less then 1/8 teaspoon.

Marc

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Re: Independent Assessment of Bioprotect Card

Benson, Sarah (Sen L. Allison)
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Last night on a late-night news (Channel 9, Australia) program there was
a segment on a newly discovered condition called, believe it or not,
'Restless Legs Syndrome'. Apparently a lot of people suffer from it -
it occurs at night when trying to sleep. They can't keep their legs
still, and some on the program were complaining of feelings that their
nerves could not shut down. I know how this feels, because it is what
happens when I am trying to sleep in a house or building that has
radiating devices of any sort - whether they are mainstream technical or
devices like BioProtect. Also happens very strongly with earth fields.

The program then went on to talk about a new drug that has been
developed to counteract it. Unfortunately I have not yet been able to
find a transcript of the segment.

Sarah

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From: Marc Martin [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Tuesday, 4 May 2004 6:06 AM
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Subject: [eSens] Re: Independent Assessment of Bioprotect Card


> This form of agitation, is this the same as the agitation you feel
> when you wear the springlife polarizers (too) long?

They are similar, but not the same. When I wear a Springlife Polarizer
that is larger than necessary for the current circumstances, I feel good
initially (like for the first couple hours), but eventually this turns
into agitation. This is not the "panic attack"/chest discomfort
agitation though. Instead, it seems more of a general agitation, along
with some dehydration symptoms and a metallic taste in my mouth. The
solution is to either switch to a smaller sized model, take a break from
wearing anything, or put it a foot away from me.

However, those other devices cause agitation almost immediately (like
within a minute or two), and the agitation is so severe that it's worse
than the EMF exposure! And in the case of the sacred geometry
medallions, I found that my ES symptoms got worse afterwards, and stayed
that way for a couple weeks after I got rid of them.

With the chia seeds, I do get the chest discomfort symptom, which seems
to peak several hours after consuming them and gradually fades away
after that. But at least with these, I can lower my intake to a level
where I only experience the benefits (increased
energy/endurance) without the agitation. But note that this level of
intake is very small -- less then 1/8 teaspoon.

Marc



 
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Re: Independent Assessment of Bioprotect Card

charles-2
Hello Sarah,

yes, the restless leg is a symptom of electrosensibility.

We live in a 200 appartment building (for old people)

We have elevators and three staircases.

My wife had some trouble in one staircase.
It seemed that her leg just went limp, and she fell.
This occors always at the same spot.
I went there, and YES!!
The appartment on the first floor contained a DECT telephone.
The RF radiation in the hall was 180 uW/m2.
The woman in question uses an electro-car for going outside!

On certain streets my wife walks on the other side, because she feels where
the DECTs are.

Most people do not want to believe, that those cordless hous phones
according to the DECT/GAP principle are real KILLERS!
Not only to themselves, but also to their neighbours.
The radiation is like a phone mast at 20 meter away.

Many phone mast protesters do use cell phones and have DECT phones at home.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.hetbitje.nl
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From: "Benson, Sarah (Sen L. Allison)" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2004 12:41
Subject: RE: [eSens] Re: Independent Assessment of Bioprotect Card


> Last night on a late-night news (Channel 9, Australia) program there was
> a segment on a newly discovered condition called, believe it or not,
> 'Restless Legs Syndrome'. Apparently a lot of people suffer from it -
> it occurs at night when trying to sleep. They can't keep their legs
> still, and some on the program were complaining of feelings that their
> nerves could not shut down. I know how this feels, because it is what
> happens when I am trying to sleep in a house or building that has
> radiating devices of any sort - whether they are mainstream technical or
> devices like BioProtect. Also happens very strongly with earth fields.
>
> The program then went on to talk about a new drug that has been
> developed to counteract it. Unfortunately I have not yet been able to
> find a transcript of the segment.
>
> Sarah
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marc Martin [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Tuesday, 4 May 2004 6:06 AM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: [eSens] Re: Independent Assessment of Bioprotect Card
>
>
> > This form of agitation, is this the same as the agitation you feel
> > when you wear the springlife polarizers (too) long?
>
> They are similar, but not the same. When I wear a Springlife Polarizer
> that is larger than necessary for the current circumstances, I feel good
> initially (like for the first couple hours), but eventually this turns
> into agitation. This is not the "panic attack"/chest discomfort
> agitation though. Instead, it seems more of a general agitation, along
> with some dehydration symptoms and a metallic taste in my mouth. The
> solution is to either switch to a smaller sized model, take a break from
> wearing anything, or put it a foot away from me.
>
> However, those other devices cause agitation almost immediately (like
> within a minute or two), and the agitation is so severe that it's worse
> than the EMF exposure! And in the case of the sacred geometry
> medallions, I found that my ES symptoms got worse afterwards, and stayed
> that way for a couple weeks after I got rid of them.
>
> With the chia seeds, I do get the chest discomfort symptom, which seems
> to peak several hours after consuming them and gradually fades away
> after that. But at least with these, I can lower my intake to a level
> where I only experience the benefits (increased
> energy/endurance) without the agitation. But note that this level of
> intake is very small -- less then 1/8 teaspoon.
>
> Marc
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>

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RE: restless legs

Elle Jaye
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I do believe that restless legs has been known and been around for some time now. It is a very uncomfortable condition that not only disturbs your sleep but will leave you with pains in your legs the following day to the point where you cannot walk. I have had this condition for quite a number of years and was told by my GP that I inherited it from my mother who I know did have this condition. I also have sleep apnea but attribute the waking in the early mornings to the hum of the emf. From these assaults I've also developed tinnitus, inflamation of the gall bladder and liver, irritable bowel syndrome, indigestion, pseudo porphyria with itchy skin, short term memory loss, pseudo hypoglycemia, blurred vision and an over-run of candidas. I'm sure there are more but can't quite remember all of the illnesses. I've been taking vitamins which help every so slightly but I appreciate any amount of help. I don't have the funds to buy any of the items advertised to divert stray emf's.



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RE: restless legs

Marc Martin
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>From these assaults I've also developed tinnitus, inflamation of the
>gall >bladder and liver, irritable bowel syndrome, indigestion, pseudo
>porphyria with >itchy skin, short term memory loss, pseudo hypoglycemia,
>blurred vision and an >over-run of candidas. I'm sure there are more but
>can't quite remember all of >the illnesses.

If you went into an alternative health practitioner with this list of
symptoms, you would most likely be diagnosed as having heavy metal
poisoning, and told to have your metal dental work removed and start taking
things to pull the heavy metals out of your body (sea vegetables,
chlorella, cilantro, DMSA, EDTA). They would view the irritable legs as a
SYMPTOM of heavy metal poisoning, not the cause of these other problems.
ES is also viewed by some as symptom of heavy metal poisoning.

Marc

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