I am about ready to give up.

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Maybe its a stray current off a peice of non earthed equipment, ie computer
printer, digital freeview box and so on, there may be a wire along the party
wall thats taking the current ?

So did the electricity supplier say that they had altered something or
that they had fopund a problem?

Richard

--- In [hidden email], Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@...> wrote:
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> Yeah, if I were an avatar, a shaolin monk, or something, I might have
enough power to keep EMF from effecting me.

I am interested in your comment Andrew. Do you think it is possible
that if you were more spiritually developed you would not be effected
by EMFs?

Richard

ooh, sorry, can i butt in on this interesting topic to say something?

When i first started looking for a refuge i approached a big
Theravadian Monastery in the south east of england, called Chithurst.  
I was told that it would not be a good place for me because they had a
massive pylon right next to the women's quarters! So it obviously
hasn't put them off, though don't know how they get on healthwise.

Its an interesting subject though, the extent to which spiritual
practice can alleviate ES. I'm trying, yet again, to do a bit of
meditation each day. It definitely helps when I get seriously sleep
deprived and strung out.



--- In [hidden email], "richard hutchinson" <rmh@...> wrote:
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> --- In [hidden email], Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@> wrote:
> >
>
> > Yeah, if I were an avatar, a shaolin monk, or something, I might
have
> enough power to keep EMF from effecting me.
>
> I am interested in your comment Andrew. Do you think it is possible
> that if you were more spiritually developed you would not be effected
> by EMFs?
>
> Richard
>

Interesting commentary. Someone was telling me about a small convent
of nuns near Santa Barbara CA. They were like Carmelites in their
practice, did not speak and spent most of their day in prayer and
meditation, even as they performed their assigned duties for the
functioning of the convent. The oldest one lived to be over 100 and
had given her permission for her body to be autopsied after she died.

When the time came, to the amazement of all the medical and
scientific people, every organ of Sister's was riddled with cancer.
They had no idea of how she had lived that long, let alone
functioned, let alone carried out her responsibilities in the
convent, let alone expressed no evidence of pain or dysfunction.

Yolanda

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In a message dated 9/26/2007 4:17:56 PM GMT Daylight Time,
[hidden email] writes:

Its an interesting subject though, the extent to which spiritual
> practice can alleviate ES. I'm trying, yet again, to do a bit of
> meditation each day. It definitely helps when I get seriously sleep
> deprived and strung out.
>
> --- In _eSens@yahoogroups.eSe_ (mailto:[hidden email]) , "richard
hutchinson" <rmh@...> wrote:
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> > --- In _eSens@yahoogroups.eSe_ (mailto:[hidden email]) , Andrew


Probably a good thing for ES is to try to break through the symptom barrier
and fatigue with exersise that will boost Mytochondria function, high aerobic
exersise, with good diet has got to make sense. This will also lead to the
production of endorphins etc... but that said I guess thisshould form part of
a avoidance regime as far as reasonably practicable to suit your
circumstances.

Paul UK






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Emotional Freedom Technique (EFT) can be pretty amazing. I went to a  
conference at a resort in Flagstaff AZ. They had just shampooed the  
carpets. EFT of course draws a lot of very sensitive people. I am  
sensitive but not hypersensitive. Anyway in the hallways everybody  
was complaining, particularly my roommate who is probably one feather  
away from being the canary in the coal mine. I could hear Gary Craig  
in the back of my mind saying "Tap for everything and  
anything" (tapping acupoints on the body of self or others is the  
foundation of this work). My roomie and a few others were just busy  
in being outraged and complaining to the desk, etc. I started tapping  
and by the time I got in my room I was symptom clear and got a good  
nights sleep. So did the others who started tapping.

EFT along with flower essences, homeopathy and a myriad of other  
techniques are meridian based therapies. It can be spiritual or not  
depending on how you do it and what your belief system is. If you do  
any of these practices long enough you will probably become  
spiritual. Most of the founders were spiritual to a greater or lesser  
degree though Narcissistic Personality Disorder seems to flourish  
with people who pioneer new techniques and t houghts. Maybe that's  
what it takes to get it out there.

Yolanda
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Somewhere in my dreams (and from my hundreds of books I've read about
the great spiritual masters) I can imagine that I can raise my
vibrational rate to not be effected by the 3rd dimension.
Right now, this is all bullshit.
I am in the 3rd dimension and all my years of Tibetan and Yogic
meditation and study does not prevent cell phones from screwing with my
focus.
Until I get the metals out of my head, repair the nerves, and kill the
virus/bacteria associated, etc. I am stuck in the 3rd dimension like
the rest of us.
And, I am getting better little my little. The work I am doing is
working.
It is just taking a while.
So, if anyone tells me "you can just meditate and not be effected," I
am going to say f-ck off or punch him.
Hope that clarifies my position.
Andrew

On Sep 26, 2007, at 10:28 AM, richard hutchinson wrote:

andrew have you seen the work done by these guys
http://www.phoenixregenetics.org/

pete
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According to the great California guru of the raw foodies, Aajonus
Vonderplanitz, the virii are messengers that keep us synchronized
with the environment, and the bacteria are cleaning crew, like
janitors.

If this is true it would be a mistake to kill them. I think it's true.


William

Thanks for the info. No I have not seen this website.
And, yes, I have seen the work done by these guys. Years ago I fully
researched Horowitz's bible codes and also Braden's and Goldman's
Healing Tones, bought their books, CDs, etc.
I did DNA activation workshops, Advanced Merkaba training and
meditations from Drunvalo's stuff, Adam Kadmon workshops and
activations, Barbara Brennan energetic healing school and healings,
Psychospiritual verbal and emotion Healing of DNA breaks, pastlife
forgiveness of parental and personal agreements, DNA-RNA repair of
emotional trauma, blah blah blah....
For the healing tones, I actually did the bible code math, assembled
the tones on my computer, matched them with the research, assembled
them according to their harmonic overtones so they would make a nice
chord so they would actually sound good, created a CD and played it and
toned with it regularly.
Yes I believe that certain frequencies heal our DNA, cells, etc.
Guess what. We are constantly being bombarded with damaging a
destroying frequencies! No surprise.
So, to get the edge, I believe it comes down to removing the toxins,
heavy metals, virus/bacteria, etc. that are stimulated by these
negative frequencies and remove them so the body can respond more
strongly and naturally.
That is where I am.
I appreciate the info and the flashback of my exploration and spending
thousands and thousands of dollars on my Rife machine, Slim Spurling
rings and harmonizers, workshops, healing sessions, etc. on and on...

Yes, there will be a time to do more of this. Not for me right now.
Thanks,
Andrew

On Sep 27, 2007, at 3:12 AM, pete robinson wrote: