GEORGE CARLO'S ES TREATMENT PROTOCOL

Hi everyone

I came across this by accident the other night. George Carlo was speaking in London to a group of ES people about what ES is, how to diagnose it, whatcauses it and how it can be treated. Set out below is the treatment protocol he says he is using and working on. It seems to me that if someone like him is this specific, that if it is a cellular communications problem [in anutshell how described it] and you have to go through these stages, and inthis order, to go about fixing it then if we want to treat our ES then isn't this the way we should go about it? I just wish he was a bit clearer on what some of the stages involve. I later came across a paper by Andrew Goldsworthy, also on calcium ion channels and his work echoed Dr Carlo's theoryof the cellular communication problem

THis is the protcol Dr Carlo described. I'd be interested to know what anyone thinks about it and how we could put together a DIY version if possible for those who can't afford to visit various practicioners for assistance with doing it.

West wishes

Steph


Dr Carlo stressed the importance of the patient remaining in an EMR free environment at all times during treatment, and that only the treatments listed should be used, and the sequence adhered to. Other supplements would be counterproductive, he explained, because the ion-channels needed to be kept clear to allow cellular detoxing. Average time scales are given for each part of the treatment, and regular checks and tests determine when a patient is ready to move to the next stage.

1. Neurological re-balancing
(weeks 1 – 3)
The aim is to stabilise DHEA and cortisol (hormones produced by the adrenalglands and considered to be markers of systemic stress). Treatments in this phase include yoga, massage, meditation, and therapies such as Network Spinal Analysis to calm and balance the central nervous system. During this phase the patient stops taking all supplements.

2. Ion-channel opening (weeks 2 – 6)
A form of supplemental magnesium chelated with amino acids is given to energise the mitochondria and encourage the ion-channels to re-open.

3. Mitochondrial enhancement (weeks 3 – 6)
Mitochondrial function needs to be enhanced at this stage or more toxins will enter the cells through the newly opened ion-channels.

4. Interstitial cleansing (weeks 6 – 8)
Once the ion-channels are open and the mitochondria are healthy, then the toxins in the interstitial space can be cleared.

5. Intracellular detoxification (weeks 8 – 12)
Now it is safe to allow the release of toxins from within the cells.

6 Cell membrane re-building (months 3 – 18)
Symptoms will have subsided by this point, but an extended period of repairis necessary to re-build cell membranes, using supplements and nutrition, and keeping the patient free from EMR.

Well, that is all good but how do you keep yourself free from EMR? If we could do that we could heal on our own. In this present day it seems unrealistic. Loni

--- On Fri, 8/14/09, Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] GEORGE CARLO'S ES TREATMENT PROTOCOL
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Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 7:38 AM


 



Hi everyone

I came across this by accident the other night. George Carlo was speaking in London to a group of ES people about what ES is, how to diagnose it, whatcauses it and how it can be treated. Set out below is the treatment protocol he says he is using and working on. It seems to me that if someone like him is this specific, that if it is a cellular communications problem [in anutshell how described it] and you have to go through these stages, and inthis order, to go about fixing it then if we want to treat our ES then isn't this the way we should go about it? I just wish he was a bit clearer on what some of the stages involve. I later came across a paper by Andrew Goldsworthy, also on calcium ion channels and his work echoed Dr Carlo's theoryof the cellular communication problem

THis is the protcol Dr Carlo described. I'd be interested to know what anyone thinks about it and how we could put together a DIY version if possible for those who can't afford to visit various practicioners for assistance with doing it.

West wishes

Steph

Dr Carlo stressed the importance of the patient remaining in an EMR free environment at all times during treatment, and that only the treatments listed should be used, and the sequence adhered to. Other supplements would be counterproductive, he explained, because the ion-channels needed to be kept clear to allow cellular detoxing. Average time scales are given for each part of the treatment, and regular checks and tests determine when a patient is ready to move to the next stage.

1. Neurological re-balancing
(weeks 1 – 3)
The aim is to stabilise DHEA and cortisol (hormones produced by the adrenalglands and considered to be markers of systemic stress). Treatments in this phase include yoga, massage, meditation, and therapies such as Network Spinal Analysis to calm and balance the central nervous system. During this phase the patient stops taking all supplements.

2. Ion-channel opening (weeks 2 – 6)
A form of supplemental magnesium chelated with amino acids is given to energise the mitochondria and encourage the ion-channels to re-open.

3. Mitochondrial enhancement (weeks 3 – 6)
Mitochondrial function needs to be enhanced at this stage or more toxins will enter the cells through the newly opened ion-channels.

4. Interstitial cleansing (weeks 6 – 8)
Once the ion-channels are open and the mitochondria are healthy, then the toxins in the interstitial space can be cleared.

5. Intracellular detoxification (weeks 8 – 12)
Now it is safe to allow the release of toxins from within the cells.

6 Cell membrane re-building (months 3 – 18)
Symptoms will have subsided by this point, but an extended period of repairis necessary to re-build cell membranes, using supplements and nutrition, and keeping the patient free from EMR.

















     

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Bravo, Loni.  You cut to the heart of the matter.  If we could eliminate emf, we could all heal.  I read about the area of Dolan Springs, Az. as being the ideal place, since it is far from large cities and in adelta area, which for some reason also helps.  Has anyone experiencedideal areas across these United States?
Mike in Phoenix
 
P.S.  Phoenix is not one of them!

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Well, that is all good but how do you keep yourself free from EMR? If we could do that we could heal on our own. In this present day it seems unrealistic. Loni

--- On Fri, 8/14/09, Stephanie Smith <reader41@ymail. com> wrote:

From: Stephanie Smith <reader41@ymail. com>
Subject: [eSens] GEORGE CARLO'S ES TREATMENT PROTOCOL
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 7:38 AM

 

Hi everyone

I came across this by accident the other night. George Carlo was speaking in London to a group of ES people about what ES is, how to diagnose it, whatcauses it and how it can be treated. Set out below is the treatment protocol he says he is using and working on. It seems to me that if someone like him is this specific, that if it is a cellular communications problem [in anutshell how described it] and you have to go through these stages, and inthis order, to go about fixing it then if we want to treat our ES then isn't this the way we should go about it? I just wish he was a bit clearer on what some of the stages involve. I later came across a paper by Andrew Goldsworthy, also on calcium ion channels and his work echoed Dr Carlo's theoryof the cellular communication problem

THis is the protcol Dr Carlo described. I'd be interested to know what anyone thinks about it and how we could put together a DIY version if possible for those who can't afford to visit various practicioners for assistance with doing it.

West wishes

Steph

Dr Carlo stressed the importance of the patient remaining in an EMR free environment at all times during treatment, and that only the treatments listed should be used, and the sequence adhered to. Other supplements would be counterproductive, he explained, because the ion-channels needed to be kept clear to allow cellular detoxing. Average time scales are given for each part of the treatment, and regular checks and tests determine when a patient is ready to move to the next stage.

1. Neurological re-balancing
(weeks 1 – 3)
The aim is to stabilise DHEA and cortisol (hormones produced by the adrenalglands and considered to be markers of systemic stress). Treatments in this phase include yoga, massage, meditation, and therapies such as Network Spinal Analysis to calm and balance the central nervous system. During this phase the patient stops taking all supplements.

2. Ion-channel opening (weeks 2 – 6)
A form of supplemental magnesium chelated with amino acids is given to energise the mitochondria and encourage the ion-channels to re-open.

3. Mitochondrial enhancement (weeks 3 – 6)
Mitochondrial function needs to be enhanced at this stage or more toxins will enter the cells through the newly opened ion-channels.

4. Interstitial cleansing (weeks 6 – 8)
Once the ion-channels are open and the mitochondria are healthy, then the toxins in the interstitial space can be cleared.

5. Intracellular detoxification (weeks 8 – 12)
Now it is safe to allow the release of toxins from within the cells.

6 Cell membrane re-building (months 3 – 18)
Symptoms will have subsided by this point, but an extended period of repairis necessary to re-build cell membranes, using supplements and nutrition, and keeping the patient free from EMR.

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I know Loni - I'm not sure exactly how "free" from EMR you have to be sincenone of us can avoid phone masts, wifi and cell phones etc - but I can seewhere he is coming from in that he believes that EMR "maintains" the illness and continues to feed the cell changes. A lot of other treatments I havecome across recently [and not just for ES] also specify that you must try to avoid EMR. I suppose about the only places which would be free from EMR would be communities established under his safe wireless initiative - if you google that you will come to his site and there are several places which have deliberately tried to stay EMR free.
 
That aspect aside, what I am wondering though is are a lot of us making things worse for ourselves - in taking a whole batch of supplements in a desperate attempt to give ourselves some relief from the symptoms which are unbearable for us but could at the same time be blocking our ion channels and so preventing the detoxing that we need to happen? It is very hard to know what to do without expert help on this.
 
I'd still be interested in any thoughts anyone might have on this.
 
BW
 
Steph

--- On Fri, 14/8/09, Loni <[hidden email]> wrote:


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Date: Friday, 14 August, 2009, 3:10 PM


 



Well, that is all good but how do you keep yourself free from EMR? If we could do that we could heal on our own. In this present day it seems unrealistic. Loni

--- On Fri, 8/14/09, Stephanie Smith <reader41@ymail. com> wrote:

From: Stephanie Smith <reader41@ymail. com>
Subject: [eSens] GEORGE CARLO'S ES TREATMENT PROTOCOL
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 7:38 AM

 

Hi everyone

I came across this by accident the other night. George Carlo was speaking in London to a group of ES people about what ES is, how to diagnose it, whatcauses it and how it can be treated. Set out below is the treatment protocol he says he is using and working on. It seems to me that if someone like him is this specific, that if it is a cellular communications problem [in anutshell how described it] and you have to go through these stages, and inthis order, to go about fixing it then if we want to treat our ES then isn't this the way we should go about it? I just wish he was a bit clearer on what some of the stages involve. I later came across a paper by Andrew Goldsworthy, also on calcium ion channels and his work echoed Dr Carlo's theoryof the cellular communication problem

THis is the protcol Dr Carlo described. I'd be interested to know what anyone thinks about it and how we could put together a DIY version if possible for those who can't afford to visit various practicioners for assistance with doing it.

West wishes

Steph

Dr Carlo stressed the importance of the patient remaining in an EMR free environment at all times during treatment, and that only the treatments listed should be used, and the sequence adhered to. Other supplements would be counterproductive, he explained, because the ion-channels needed to be kept clear to allow cellular detoxing. Average time scales are given for each part of the treatment, and regular checks and tests determine when a patient is ready to move to the next stage.

1. Neurological re-balancing
(weeks 1 – 3)
The aim is to stabilise DHEA and cortisol (hormones produced by the adrenalglands and considered to be markers of systemic stress). Treatments in this phase include yoga, massage, meditation, and therapies such as Network Spinal Analysis to calm and balance the central nervous system. During this phase the patient stops taking all supplements.

2. Ion-channel opening (weeks 2 – 6)
A form of supplemental magnesium chelated with amino acids is given to energise the mitochondria and encourage the ion-channels to re-open.

3. Mitochondrial enhancement (weeks 3 – 6)
Mitochondrial function needs to be enhanced at this stage or more toxins will enter the cells through the newly opened ion-channels.

4. Interstitial cleansing (weeks 6 – 8)
Once the ion-channels are open and the mitochondria are healthy, then the toxins in the interstitial space can be cleared.

5. Intracellular detoxification (weeks 8 – 12)
Now it is safe to allow the release of toxins from within the cells.

6 Cell membrane re-building (months 3 – 18)
Symptoms will have subsided by this point, but an extended period of repairis necessary to re-build cell membranes, using supplements and nutrition, and keeping the patient free from EMR.

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Greenbank, West Virginia.

http://www.gb.nrao.edu/

They have an area of at least 10 sq miles that has no radio/TV towers
and cell towers so their antenna can sense extremely low frequencies.
andrew

On Aug 14, 2009, at 12:07 PM, angela england wrote:

Hi Mike in Phoenix. I am Loni in Mesa. Ha. I've been to Snow Flake it seemsto be a great place but really out there. I know someone that just moved to Dolan Springs & she is ES so I'll have to ask her how it is up there.
 
Loni

--- On Fri, 8/14/09, angela england <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: angela england <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] GEORGE CARLO'S ES TREATMENT PROTOCOL
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Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 9:07 AM


 



Bravo, Loni.  You cut to the heart of the matter.  If we could eliminate emf, we could all heal.  I read about the area of Dolan Springs, Az. as being the ideal place, since it is far from large cities and in adelta area, which for some reason also helps.  Has anyone experiencedideal areas across these United States?
Mike in Phoenix
 
P.S.  Phoenix is not one of them!

--- On Fri, 8/14/09, Loni <loni326@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Loni <loni326@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [eSens] GEORGE CARLO'S ES TREATMENT PROTOCOL
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 8:10 AM

 

Well, that is all good but how do you keep yourself free from EMR? If we could do that we could heal on our own. In this present day it seems unrealistic. Loni

--- On Fri, 8/14/09, Stephanie Smith <reader41@ymail. com> wrote:

From: Stephanie Smith <reader41@ymail. com>
Subject: [eSens] GEORGE CARLO'S ES TREATMENT PROTOCOL
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 7:38 AM

 

Hi everyone

I came across this by accident the other night. George Carlo was speaking in London to a group of ES people about what ES is, how to diagnose it, whatcauses it and how it can be treated. Set out below is the treatment protocol he says he is using and working on. It seems to me that if someone like him is this specific, that if it is a cellular communications problem [in anutshell how described it] and you have to go through these stages, and inthis order, to go about fixing it then if we want to treat our ES then isn't this the way we should go about it? I just wish he was a bit clearer on what some of the stages involve. I later came across a paper by Andrew Goldsworthy, also on calcium ion channels and his work echoed Dr Carlo's theoryof the cellular communication problem

THis is the protcol Dr Carlo described. I'd be interested to know what anyone thinks about it and how we could put together a DIY version if possible for those who can't afford to visit various practicioners for assistance with doing it.

West wishes

Steph

Dr Carlo stressed the importance of the patient remaining in an EMR free environment at all times during treatment, and that only the treatments listed should be used, and the sequence adhered to. Other supplements would be counterproductive, he explained, because the ion-channels needed to be kept clear to allow cellular detoxing. Average time scales are given for each part of the treatment, and regular checks and tests determine when a patient is ready to move to the next stage.

1. Neurological re-balancing
(weeks 1 – 3)
The aim is to stabilise DHEA and cortisol (hormones produced by the adrenalglands and considered to be markers of systemic stress). Treatments in this phase include yoga, massage, meditation, and therapies such as Network Spinal Analysis to calm and balance the central nervous system. During this phase the patient stops taking all supplements.

2. Ion-channel opening (weeks 2 – 6)
A form of supplemental magnesium chelated with amino acids is given to energise the mitochondria and encourage the ion-channels to re-open.

3. Mitochondrial enhancement (weeks 3 – 6)
Mitochondrial function needs to be enhanced at this stage or more toxins will enter the cells through the newly opened ion-channels.

4. Interstitial cleansing (weeks 6 – 8)
Once the ion-channels are open and the mitochondria are healthy, then the toxins in the interstitial space can be cleared.

5. Intracellular detoxification (weeks 8 – 12)
Now it is safe to allow the release of toxins from within the cells.

6 Cell membrane re-building (months 3 – 18)
Symptoms will have subsided by this point, but an extended period of repairis necessary to re-build cell membranes, using supplements and nutrition, and keeping the patient free from EMR.

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Exactly Loni, I am aware that my symptoms disappear immediately when camping far in the woods or on holidays in less RF infested places. 
 
I do not want dismiss his treatment but lets say we do this successfully elsewhere, away from our current situations. Is he saying that whenwe come to our "real life" we should  be cured and not feelsick? If he is simply saying, stay away from EMF forever and help yourself to undo the damage done while you were exposed, he does not really understand this issue. 
 
Sandra

--- On Fri, 8/14/09, angela england <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: angela england <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] GEORGE CARLO'S ES TREATMENT PROTOCOL
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Bravo, Loni.  You cut to the heart of the matter.  If we could eliminate emf, we could all heal.  I read about the area of Dolan Springs, Az. as being the ideal place, since it is far from large cities and in adelta area, which for some reason also helps.  Has anyone experiencedideal areas across these United States?
Mike in Phoenix
 
P.S.  Phoenix is not one of them!

--- On Fri, 8/14/09, Loni <loni326@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Loni <loni326@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [eSens] GEORGE CARLO'S ES TREATMENT PROTOCOL
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 8:10 AM

 

Well, that is all good but how do you keep yourself free from EMR? If we could do that we could heal on our own. In this present day it seems unrealistic. Loni

--- On Fri, 8/14/09, Stephanie Smith <reader41@ymail. com> wrote:

From: Stephanie Smith <reader41@ymail. com>
Subject: [eSens] GEORGE CARLO'S ES TREATMENT PROTOCOL
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 7:38 AM

 

Hi everyone

I came across this by accident the other night. George Carlo was speaking in London to a group of ES people about what ES is, how to diagnose it, whatcauses it and how it can be treated. Set out below is the treatment protocol he says he is using and working on. It seems to me that if someone like him is this specific, that if it is a cellular communications problem [in anutshell how described it] and you have to go through these stages, and inthis order, to go about fixing it then if we want to treat our ES then isn't this the way we should go about it? I just wish he was a bit clearer on what some of the stages involve. I later came across a paper by Andrew Goldsworthy, also on calcium ion channels and his work echoed Dr Carlo's theoryof the cellular communication problem

THis is the protcol Dr Carlo described. I'd be interested to know what anyone thinks about it and how we could put together a DIY version if possible for those who can't afford to visit various practicioners for assistance with doing it.

West wishes

Steph

Dr Carlo stressed the importance of the patient remaining in an EMR free environment at all times during treatment, and that only the treatments listed should be used, and the sequence adhered to. Other supplements would be counterproductive, he explained, because the ion-channels needed to be kept clear to allow cellular detoxing. Average time scales are given for each part of the treatment, and regular checks and tests determine when a patient is ready to move to the next stage.

1. Neurological re-balancing
(weeks 1 – 3)
The aim is to stabilise DHEA and cortisol (hormones produced by the adrenalglands and considered to be markers of systemic stress). Treatments in this phase include yoga, massage, meditation, and therapies such as Network Spinal Analysis to calm and balance the central nervous system. During this phase the patient stops taking all supplements.

2. Ion-channel opening (weeks 2 – 6)
A form of supplemental magnesium chelated with amino acids is given to energise the mitochondria and encourage the ion-channels to re-open.

3. Mitochondrial enhancement (weeks 3 – 6)
Mitochondrial function needs to be enhanced at this stage or more toxins will enter the cells through the newly opened ion-channels.

4. Interstitial cleansing (weeks 6 – 8)
Once the ion-channels are open and the mitochondria are healthy, then the toxins in the interstitial space can be cleared.

5. Intracellular detoxification (weeks 8 – 12)
Now it is safe to allow the release of toxins from within the cells.

6 Cell membrane re-building (months 3 – 18)
Symptoms will have subsided by this point, but an extended period of repairis necessary to re-build cell membranes, using supplements and nutrition, and keeping the patient free from EMR.

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In my book he has no real credibility as far as treatment.
What is any of this based on? Probably just guesses.


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> In my book he has no real credibility as far as treatment.

Yes, he's never seemed particularly credible to me. And
remember, we do occasionally see people who claim they've
cured themselves of ES, and they did not follow this
protocol (and probably also did not remove themselves
from all sources of EMF, either)

Marc

His first treatment was stabalize adrenal hormones. Well, my adrenals burntout due to exposures years ago & I am on steroids probably for good now. LOni

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Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 6:51 PM


In my book he has no real credibility as far as treatment.
What is any of this based on?  Probably just guesses.


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> His first treatment was stabalize adrenal hormones. Well, my adrenals
> burnt out due to exposures years ago & I am on steroids probably for good
> now.

Maybe, although there are various supplements on the market that are
supposed to help rebuild the adrenal glands over time (extracts of
animal adrenal glands, or herbs like licorice and rehmannia)

Marc

Paul uk -
I know someone who is using the treatment program here in the uk, I will
kep you posted. I think there is mileage in dealing with the phychological
damage that accompanies ES, ie you feel,
cheated,persecuted,tormeted,patranised,misunderstood,pessimistic,angry, and a whole lot more, certainly having
a break from your daily routine in a place that has low emf will help, but
you might find that all of the latter comes back with avengence when you
start to get burnt again trying to resume the normal daily life that you are
entitled to. and realise again how you are being cheated of you health amd
well being.
peace and love, peace and love peace and love..mmmmm its not working !


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I can go away for a weekend & heal some, come back & do ok for a couple of days and then boom I'm just back to where I was because the healing is not permenant if you don't prevent the exposure or at least extreme exposure. Loni

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Paul uk -
I know someone who is using the treatment program here in the uk, I will
kep you posted. I think there is mileage in dealing with the phychological
damage that accompanies ES, ie you feel,
cheated,persecuted, tormeted, patranised, misunderstood, pessimistic, angry, and a whole lot more, certainly having
a break from your daily routine in a place that has low emf will help, but
you might find that all of the latter comes back with avengence when you
start to get burnt again trying to resume the normal daily life that you are
entitled to. and realise again how you are being cheated of you health amd
well being.
peace and love, peace and love peace and love..mmmmm its not working !

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I've been trying with suppliments for a very long time to get them working to no avail.
They say you need to avoid stress number 1. Well how can I do that with 6 to 8 cell antennas out my back window. I'm fried to death every day. So I still have hope but am losing it because my body is just under too much stress on a day to day basis.
 
Loni

--- On Sat, 8/15/09, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:


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Subject: Re: [eSens] GEORGE CARLO'S ES TREATMENT PROTOCOL
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Date: Saturday, August 15, 2009, 8:36 AM


 



> His first treatment was stabalize adrenal hormones. Well, my adrenals
> burnt out due to exposures years ago & I am on steroids probably for good
> now.

Maybe, although there are various supplements on the market that are
supposed to help rebuild the adrenal glands over time (extracts of
animal adrenal glands, or herbs like licorice and rehmannia)

Marc
















     

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Hi Loni,
I did not realize all this time that you have such great exposure to celltowers.
 
I was able to find a countryside spot about 70 km away from Toronto whichis in a very low RF zone so  I am moving permanently next week. Although I feel much better now than 6 months ago I think that any serious (100%)  recovery might not be possible if I am exposed to that stuff continously. 
 
Sandra

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I've been trying with suppliments for a very long time to get them working to no avail.
They say you need to avoid stress number 1. Well how can I do that with 6 to 8 cell antennas out my back window. I'm fried to death every day. So I still have hope but am losing it because my body is just under too much stress on a day to day basis.
 
Loni

--- On Sat, 8/15/09, Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com> wrote:

From: Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com>
Subject: Re: [eSens] GEORGE CARLO'S ES TREATMENT PROTOCOL
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Saturday, August 15, 2009, 8:36 AM

 

> His first treatment was stabalize adrenal hormones. Well, my adrenals
> burnt out due to exposures years ago & I am on steroids probably for good
> now.

Maybe, although there are various supplements on the market that are
supposed to help rebuild the adrenal glands over time (extracts of
animal adrenal glands, or herbs like licorice and rehmannia)

Marc

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Well you said it. Your stress is coming from the antennas. Your body is
paying the price and unless you get your body out of there it will
continue to crash.
Time to make a hard decision, leave or stay.
I say go!
You have proven that nothing works as long as you are in that situation
so you much change the equation to get a different result.
I know it is scary.
Take the plunge.
All my best to you,
Andrew

On Aug 16, 2009, at 1:46 PM, Loni wrote:

Hi Sandra
 
In the article I read which I will try to post a link to, Carlo agrees thatif all we were to do was to go to somewhere where there is no EMF and our symptoms seem to abate while it might give us respite while we are there - unless we do more and actually try to treat the breakdown in cellular communication and try to restore what should be proper cellular communication [via the protocol he recommends] then when we return to a normal EMF laden environment the symptoms will come back. This would mena that to have any quality of life we would have to find an environment where we don't experienceES and then would be confined to it - what he proposes is to try to treat the ES so that we are relatively unaffected by the EMF. I have also just read something similar on Joseph Mercola's website which I will try to post to this forum because it explains it very well.I'm not trying to be controversial or critical of what other people are trying - I am as
desperate for something effective as the next person and am merely postingwhat I have come across to see what other people think.
 
Regards
 
Steph
 


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From: S.T. <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] GEORGE CARLO'S ES TREATMENT PROTOCOL
To: [hidden email]
Date: Saturday, 15 August, 2009, 1:25 AM


 



Exactly Loni, I am aware that my symptoms disappear immediately when camping far in the woods or on holidays in less RF infested places. 
 
I do not want dismiss his treatment but lets say we do this successfully elsewhere, away from our current situations. Is he saying that whenwe come to our "real life" we should  be cured and not feelsick? If he is simply saying, stay away from EMF forever and help yourself to undo the damage done while you were exposed, he does not really understand this issue. 
 
Sandra

--- On Fri, 8/14/09, angela england <mariaaengland@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: angela england <mariaaengland@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [eSens] GEORGE CARLO'S ES TREATMENT PROTOCOL
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Received: Friday, August 14, 2009, 9:07 AM

 

Bravo, Loni.  You cut to the heart of the matter.  If we could eliminate emf, we could all heal.  I read about the area of Dolan Springs, Az. as being the ideal place, since it is far from large cities and in adelta area, which for some reason also helps.  Has anyone experiencedideal areas across these United States?
Mike in Phoenix
 
P.S.  Phoenix is not one of them!

--- On Fri, 8/14/09, Loni <loni326@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Loni <loni326@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [eSens] GEORGE CARLO'S ES TREATMENT PROTOCOL
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 8:10 AM

 

Well, that is all good but how do you keep yourself free from EMR? If we could do that we could heal on our own. In this present day it seems unrealistic. Loni

--- On Fri, 8/14/09, Stephanie Smith <reader41@ymail. com> wrote:

From: Stephanie Smith <reader41@ymail. com>
Subject: [eSens] GEORGE CARLO'S ES TREATMENT PROTOCOL
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 7:38 AM

 

Hi everyone

I came across this by accident the other night. George Carlo was speaking in London to a group of ES people about what ES is, how to diagnose it, whatcauses it and how it can be treated. Set out below is the treatment protocol he says he is using and working on. It seems to me that if someone like him is this specific, that if it is a cellular communications problem [in anutshell how described it] and you have to go through these stages, and inthis order, to go about fixing it then if we want to treat our ES then isn't this the way we should go about it? I just wish he was a bit clearer on what some of the stages involve. I later came across a paper by Andrew Goldsworthy, also on calcium ion channels and his work echoed Dr Carlo's theoryof the cellular communication problem

THis is the protcol Dr Carlo described. I'd be interested to know what anyone thinks about it and how we could put together a DIY version if possible for those who can't afford to visit various practicioners for assistance with doing it.

West wishes

Steph

Dr Carlo stressed the importance of the patient remaining in an EMR free environment at all times during treatment, and that only the treatments listed should be used, and the sequence adhered to. Other supplements would be counterproductive, he explained, because the ion-channels needed to be kept clear to allow cellular detoxing. Average time scales are given for each part of the treatment, and regular checks and tests determine when a patient is ready to move to the next stage.

1. Neurological re-balancing
(weeks 1 – 3)
The aim is to stabilise DHEA and cortisol (hormones produced by the adrenalglands and considered to be markers of systemic stress). Treatments in this phase include yoga, massage, meditation, and therapies such as Network Spinal Analysis to calm and balance the central nervous system. During this phase the patient stops taking all supplements.

2. Ion-channel opening (weeks 2 – 6)
A form of supplemental magnesium chelated with amino acids is given to energise the mitochondria and encourage the ion-channels to re-open.

3. Mitochondrial enhancement (weeks 3 – 6)
Mitochondrial function needs to be enhanced at this stage or more toxins will enter the cells through the newly opened ion-channels.

4. Interstitial cleansing (weeks 6 – 8)
Once the ion-channels are open and the mitochondria are healthy, then the toxins in the interstitial space can be cleared.

5. Intracellular detoxification (weeks 8 – 12)
Now it is safe to allow the release of toxins from within the cells.

6 Cell membrane re-building (months 3 – 18)
Symptoms will have subsided by this point, but an extended period of repairis necessary to re-build cell membranes, using supplements and nutrition, and keeping the patient free from EMR.

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> You have proven that nothing works as long as you are in that situation
> so you much change the equation to get a different result.

I don't think Loni has proven that nothing works. I'm pretty sure
that *something* would work for her in her current house, the
question is whether or not she can afford it or find it.

Marc

THanks Paul - know exactly what you describe!! it would be interesting to know how someone else gets on with that - I came across it via a lady calledPatty Hemmingway, a homeopath who had convened the meeting and invited himto speak to the group of Essers. I am trying to devise my own DIY version of what he was talking about to do whatever I can to get better and am trying to fill in some of the blanks - like interstitial cleansing??? What he said also chimed with recent research by Sarah Myhill in Bristol who treats environmental illness espec ME/CFS and she belives that mitochondrial damage contributes to this illness - which I'd say for a lot of people mimics ESbut they don't realise it and I think she also has a treatment protocol for it.
 
Regards
 
Steph

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Subject: Re: [eSens] GEORGE CARLO'S ES TREATMENT PROTOCOL
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Date: Sunday, 16 August, 2009, 9:07 AM


 




Paul uk -
I know someone who is using the treatment program here in the uk, I will
kep you posted. I think there is mileage in dealing with the phychological
damage that accompanies ES, ie you feel,
cheated,persecuted, tormeted, patranised, misunderstood, pessimistic, angry, and a whole lot more, certainly having
a break from your daily routine in a place that has low emf will help, but
you might find that all of the latter comes back with avengence when you
start to get burnt again trying to resume the normal daily life that you are
entitled to. and realise again how you are being cheated of you health amd
well being.
peace and love, peace and love peace and love..mmmmm its not working !

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Hi Sandra
 
Thats good that you have found a low EMF place to go. I hope it helps you.  I toy with the idea of moving on a daily basis, but here in the UK you could move - only to find up that a cell mast springs up after you move to the supposedly EMF free area - they think it is kinder to the environment to"disguise" them as trees etc which really aggravates me ,because if it wsn't harmful why would you need to hide it from people?  I am finding that there are more and more places that I can't go to.For example, I used to goto the beach about 20 miles away - guess what the town installed WIFI all along the beach front. The local people actually complained and cited OllieJohansen's research to the local council and the local council completely dismissed his work out of hand when being interviewed on a radio programme about it. He is now suing the radio company and the local council!!! Good for him! Some council no brain thought that she knew more about the
issue than he did. That is what our environment is up against.
 
Regards
 
Steph

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From: S.T. <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] GEORGE CARLO'S ES TREATMENT PROTOCOL
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Date: Sunday, 16 August, 2009, 6:11 PM


 



Hi Loni,
I did not realize all this time that you have such great exposure to celltowers.
 
I was able to find a countryside spot about 70 km away from Toronto whichis in a very low RF zone so  I am moving permanently next week. Although I feel much better now than 6 months ago I think that any serious (100%)  recovery might not be possible if I am exposed to that stuff continously. 
 
Sandra

--- On Sun, 8/16/09, Loni <loni326@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Loni <loni326@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [eSens] GEORGE CARLO'S ES TREATMENT PROTOCOL
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Received: Sunday, August 16, 2009, 10:46 AM

 

I've been trying with suppliments for a very long time to get them working to no avail.
They say you need to avoid stress number 1. Well how can I do that with 6 to 8 cell antennas out my back window. I'm fried to death every day. So I still have hope but am losing it because my body is just under too much stress on a day to day basis.
 
Loni

--- On Sat, 8/15/09, Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com> wrote:

From: Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com>
Subject: Re: [eSens] GEORGE CARLO'S ES TREATMENT PROTOCOL
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Saturday, August 15, 2009, 8:36 AM

 

> His first treatment was stabalize adrenal hormones. Well, my adrenals
> burnt out due to exposures years ago & I am on steroids probably for good
> now.

Maybe, although there are various supplements on the market that are
supposed to help rebuild the adrenal glands over time (extracts of
animal adrenal glands, or herbs like licorice and rehmannia)

Marc

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