GEORGE CARLO'S ES TREATMENT PROTOCOL

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Loni Rosser

Re: GEORGE CARLO'S ES TREATMENT PROTOCOL

Yes that is the conventional wisdom about cortisol and any other hormone. You have to wean yourself off. Every few days someone asks about Earthcalmplug in device. So here is the entire story which I think is remarkable for a short period since April 20th of this year.

After one my trips where I felt OK outside of Canada I came home so depressed that I goggled one by one of my symptoms and I got all kind of responses but the term "dirty electricity" came up twice. So I kept going until and hour later it all became clear. Ten years of suffering and one hour of realization. So I scheduled dirty electricity guy to come in and put filters but he was only available in 2 weeks. In the meantime I ordered a tone of stuff which I was going to return if it did towork.

The Earthcalm plug in device arrived first. I might sound like a broken record here and really I do not have any stake in Eartcalm products. I pluggedin that entire device at once. The sales lady warned me three times to do it in steps and do it properly due to detox symptoms. Their literaturewarns to follow the steps. In my mind I thought , these detox symptoms cannot be worse than ES itself. Silly way to think, but mind you, I also self diagnosed myself and had no idea about this forum, about the metal in my teeth, about the possible side effects, totally clueless.

About 5 minutes after plugging this device I felt that something was leaving my body from the top of my head to my toes and there was an overwhelming sense of well-being and energy surge that happened. It was as if I werestruck by lightning but in a positive way. That night I slept better and the next day I had so much energy that I was able to work all day. At the same time I put on this anklet thing that  I ordered together wththe plug in device. The company advised me to wait for a month when Iam well adjusted to the wall unit to start wearing the bracelet. My reasoning was, if the wall unit was so good, imagine when I put this around my leg. There was no difference in the end because actually the bracelet is not the same number of circuits as the wall unit, so no changes anymore but I still wear it for when I am outside etc.  I was really atthe end of my rope so I just thought, this is going to kill me or save me. Silly I
know.

Of course, I still would feel ill when shopping, under any fluorescent light I would get those ugly hives all over me. I would still get andoccasional headache and almost fell asleep on the highway when passing cell towers and there was also some joint pain and loose stools, however, I HAD ENERGY. If you have energy you can deal with the pain.

Having energy enabled me to start researching ES. To finally answer your question about hormone weaning off period. At first I would take my cortisol and other supplements every day but I would be HYPER, ANXIOUS, and had HEART PALPITATIONS during the day. It could have been that I had the symptoms because of the incorrect way of plugging the device and wearing the anklet together. I knew I had to drop something. It was notgoing to be the plug- in thing, or the thyroid hormone, because I have no thyroid.

Then it kind of struck me that on that much Cortisol I felt MARGINALLY better  for years, but the minute I had the Earthcalm device the energy came back. The function must have returned to my adrenals or something else happened. I have no idea how this device works to be able to explain why I feel so much better. Ten days later I forgot that I ever took any cortisol. So now, since I have been feeling better and can go out in the evening I take some cortisol that day  and can stay up like other healthy people, something I have not done in years. Do I really need that cortisol, probably not but just in case. My only physical activity for years have been skiing and after that I would pay the price. I would be in a complete vegetative state for 10 days after a ski trip.

After that I had stetzer filters installed, about 10 units for my place. That also did some further improvement because somehow my digestion became more normal a month after that and we all know if you digest better your overall health will be better.

This was all a month before I joined this group. I read as much as I could here but I still could not stay in front of the the screen for long. Marc mentioned that he has some software installed and that it helps him with EMF emission from the screen. I downloaded the trial version of Quantum Byte and bought it afterwards because the day it expired I swear, I felt much worse. In fact I did not know it expired until I felt different.

from this forum I learned about amalgams and metal so I am deal ling with that right now.
That is not a battle it is a war because I have so many crowns and root canals that I do  not know where to begin. But at least implants are out.

I also have so many things glued on my cellphone to be able to use it for 5minutes daily but Charles Claessens on this forum always gives me a rude awaking, so I will have to see about eliminating my cellphone all-together. Not good for us I knew, but 100 times stronger than the cell mast. Hello.

I am also in the process of moving to the countryside. I have already been sleeping over there, just come to work to Toronto and go back to the boonies at night, until my permanent move this Sunday. I have to find all wooden furniture. You will not believe it, as I was researching something else I stumbled upon Charles' old message from 2006 which states that it is silly to move to the countryside, away from the towers, if you are going to sleep on a bed that has metal in it. He apparently measured some serious current from metal screws on some bed. There goes my furniture and pretty much my life totally turned upside down.

However, this morning bright an early I went for a 5 km walk which I havebeen doing for 10 days now, something I could have only dreamt about on April 19th of this year.

Now, this definitelly answers your question about cortisol weanning off. LOL

Sandra

--- On Tue, 8/18/09, Loni <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Loni <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Adrenals & Cortisol
To: [hidden email]
Received: Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 8:50 AM

Hi Sandra,

This is interesting. Did you drop the cortisol immediately? Because every thing I've been told & with experience trying you have to wean yourself off the cortisol if you've been taking it for that long. You would have not been making the cortisol because of the hormone you were taking?!

How much of the Rebuilder did you take per day? Are you exposed to cell antennas where you live?

I sure would love to get off the steroids but have been unsuccessful due tomy exposure here.

Loni

--- On Mon, 8/17/09, S.T. <stcro@rogers. com> wrote:

From: S.T. <stcro@rogers. com>
Subject: Re: [eSens] GEORGE CARLO'S ES TREATMENT PROTOCOL
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, August 17, 2009, 8:55 AM

Hi Loni, I cannot remember if you tried Earth calm plug in thing. Forthree years I was on 25 mg of Cortisol hormone and adrenal glandular called "adrenal rebuilder" from Dr. James Wilson. I dropped both a week after I plugged in Earthcalm. I also wear the anklet bracelet but I do not think that is as helpfull because when I experimented and unplugged the device,(stupid decision ) I got all of my symptoms back in an hour.

Sandra

--- On Mon, 8/17/09, paulpjc@aol. com <paulpjc@aol. com> wrote:

From: paulpjc@aol. com <paulpjc@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [eSens] GEORGE CARLO'S ES TREATMENT PROTOCOL
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Received: Monday, August 17, 2009, 6:44 AM

In a message dated 16/08/2009 20:38:46 GMT Daylight Time,
reader41@ymail. com writes:

I've been trying with suppliments for a very long time to get them working
to no avail.
They say you need to avoid stress number 1. Well how can I do that with 6
to 8 cell antennas out my back window. I'm fried to death every day. So I
still have hope but am losing it because my body is just under too much
stress on a day to day basis.

Loni

Paul uk replies - Certainly moving away from this evan for a relatively
short period should help to break the cycle of stress, the stress reaction
fuelled by anger, fear, frustration, and so on will probably have more of an
impact than the cell towers in the short term and also create a good ground
for deepening ES symptoms due to stress hormones which undoubtedly fuel the
ES reaction by effecting cell matabolism and reactive nervous system
responces.

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S.T.

Re: Adrenals & Cortisol

In reply to this post by Loni Rosser

>How much of the Rebuilder did you take per day?

I would take 5 x 920 mg a day. 2 morning 2 lunch and one before bed in addition to 10 mcg cortisol, morning 10 lunch and 5 later in the afternoon. It is called Future Formulations, Adrenal rebuilder Dr James Wilson.Also one teaspoon of sea salt dissolved in water every morning. That was my ritual for years. I think all that cortisol played a number onmy stomach...I do not miss cortisol or the rebuilder, I found porcine glandular fairly offencive in taste and smell.

Dr. Wilson has an excellent book on adrenal fatigue which I followed religiously for a long time. My reasoning now is that   Esens are more than fatigued or burnt out. We have an external factor that continuously eliminates any stored cortisol. Until we find a device or move away from EMF there is really no way to halt than drainage, I am nor sure that wecan count on medications only, to get better. At least this is my experience.

I had a hard time proving to my doctor that I was feeling lousy even onthat much medication. In three years while I was taking all this stuff I had a few saliva cortisol test from a prominent US Lab. All of them showed such minimal amount of cortisol that you would be barely ableto function. Particularly the last daily, midnight testing. I think it was about 1/5 of the normal range, it was frightening. My doctor was puzzled so he wrote a prescription to 40 mcg of cortisol, apparently up tothat dose was somewhat safe, he said, but I only continued taking 25 as I figured that there was no effect.

To this day I have not told my MD that I quit Cortisol nor that I think I am EHS . I am tempted to have another saliva testing, although it isreally expensive. If my cortisol is up my doc will probably think that 40 mcg dosage works for me and yet the truth is totally something different. One of these days I will inform him of all of this.

Because I have been consistent with supplements for years and did not feel any better, in my case, like for many others, the ES over-ruled everything,every treatment, every medication. Believe me there were lots of treatments and lots of meds. The only relief I felt over the years is after yogaand eating gluten free diet, mind you, temporary.

>Are you exposed to cell antennas where you live?

I live in a high rise on the 19 floor (just for a few more days, hooray) and I have windows on tree sides of my apartment. Every window faces a cell tower. These towers are not as high as my place but the signal is so strong. When I measure downstairs in front of the building, it is nowhere nearas high.

The sales person form Earthcalm told me that her customers are "predominantly" people from high rise buildings. This does not make sense to me, I thought that the strenght was supposed to point down toward the ground where we use phones, but what do I know. So yes, I am completely surrounded bycellphone towers, plus about 50 wi-fi's from my close neighbours, their cordless phones and their cellphones. Cannot blame them I had a cordelss phone until a few months ago and still have a cell phone.

Knowing what I know now, even if I WERE NOT ES, I would not live in a place like this anymore. It is one big EMF soup.

Sandra

--- On Tue, 8/18/09, S.T. <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: S.T. <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Adrenals & Cortisol
To: [hidden email]
Received: Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 11:42 AM

Yes that is the conventional wisdom about cortisol and any other hormone. You have to wean yourself off. Every few days someone asks about Earthcalmplug in device. So here is the entire story which I think is remarkable for a short period since April 20th of this year.

After one my trips where I felt OK outside of Canada I came home so depressed that I goggled one by one of my symptoms and I got all kind of responses but the term "dirty electricity" came up twice. So I kept going until and hour later it all became clear. Ten years of suffering and one hour of realization. So I scheduled dirty electricity guy to come in and put filters but he was only available in 2 weeks. In the meantime I ordered a tone of stuff which I was going to return if it did towork.

The Earthcalm plug in device arrived first. I might sound like a broken record here and really I do not have any stake in Eartcalm products. I pluggedin that entire device at once. The sales lady warned me three times to do it in steps and do it properly due to detox symptoms. Their literaturewarns to follow the steps. In my mind I thought , these detox symptoms cannot be worse than ES itself. Silly way to think, but mind you, I also self diagnosed myself and had no idea about this forum, about the metal in my teeth, about the possible side effects, totally clueless.

About 5 minutes after plugging this device I felt that something was leaving my body from the top of my head to my toes and there was an overwhelming sense of well-being and energy surge that happened. It was as if I werestruck by lightning but in a positive way. That night I slept better and the next day I had so much energy that I was able to work all day. At the same time I put on this anklet thing that  I ordered together wththe plug in device. The company advised me to wait for a month when Iam well adjusted to the wall unit to start wearing the bracelet. My reasoning was, if the wall unit was so good, imagine when I put this around my leg. There was no difference in the end because actually the bracelet is not the same number of circuits as the wall unit, so no changes anymore but I still wear it for when I am outside etc.  I was really atthe end of my rope so I just thought, this is going to kill me or save me. Silly I
know.

Of course, I still would feel ill when shopping, under any fluorescent light I would get those ugly hives all over me. I would still get andoccasional headache and almost fell asleep on the highway when passing cell towers and there was also some joint pain and loose stools, however, I HAD ENERGY. If you have energy you can deal with the pain.

Having energy enabled me to start researching ES. To finally answer your question about hormone weaning off period. At first I would take my cortisol and other supplements every day but I would be HYPER, ANXIOUS, and had HEART PALPITATIONS during the day. It could have been that I had the symptoms because of the incorrect way of plugging the device and wearing the anklet together. I knew I had to drop something. It was notgoing to be the plug- in thing, or the thyroid hormone, because I have no thyroid.

Then it kind of struck me that on that much Cortisol I felt MARGINALLY better  for years, but the minute I had the Earthcalm device the energy came back. The function must have returned to my adrenals or something else happened. I have no idea how this device works to be able to explain why I feel so much better. Ten days later I forgot that I ever took any cortisol. So now, since I have been feeling better and can go out in the evening I take some cortisol that day  and can stay up like other healthy people, something I have not done in years. Do I really need that cortisol, probably not but just in case. My only physical activity for years have been skiing and after that I would pay the price. I would be in a complete vegetative state for 10 days after a ski trip.

After that I had stetzer filters installed, about 10 units for my place. That also did some further improvement because somehow my digestion became more normal a month after that and we all know if you digest better your overall health will be better.

This was all a month before I joined this group. I read as much as I could here but I still could not stay in front of the the screen for long. Marc mentioned that he has some software installed and that it helps him with EMF emission from the screen. I downloaded the trial version of Quantum Byte and bought it afterwards because the day it expired I swear, I felt much worse. In fact I did not know it expired until I felt different.

from this forum I learned about amalgams and metal so I am deal ling with that right now.
That is not a battle it is a war because I have so many crowns and root canals that I do  not know where to begin. But at least implants are out.

I also have so many things glued on my cellphone to be able to use it for 5minutes daily but Charles Claessens on this forum always gives me a rude awaking, so I will have to see about eliminating my cellphone all- together. Not good for us I knew, but 100 times stronger than the cell mast. Hello.

I am also in the process of moving to the countryside. I have already been sleeping over there, just come to work to Toronto and go back to the boonies at night, until my permanent move this Sunday. I have to find all wooden furniture. You will not believe it, as I was researching something else I stumbled upon Charles' old message from 2006 which states that it is silly to move to the countryside, away from the towers, if you are going to sleep on a bed that has metal in it. He apparently measured some serious current from metal screws on some bed. There goes my furniture and pretty much my life totally turned upside down.

However, this morning bright an early I went for a 5 km walk which I havebeen doing for 10 days now, something I could have only dreamt about on April 19th of this year.

Now, this definitelly answers your question about cortisol weanning off. LOL

Sandra

--- On Tue, 8/18/09, Loni <loni326@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Loni <loni326@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Adrenals & Cortisol
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Received: Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 8:50 AM

Hi Sandra,

This is interesting. Did you drop the cortisol immediately? Because every thing I've been told & with experience trying you have to wean yourself off the cortisol if you've been taking it for that long. You would have not been making the cortisol because of the hormone you were taking?!

How much of the Rebuilder did you take per day? Are you exposed to cell antennas where you live?

I sure would love to get off the steroids but have been unsuccessful due tomy exposure here.

Loni

--- On Mon, 8/17/09, S.T. <stcro@rogers. com> wrote:

From: S.T. <stcro@rogers. com>
Subject: Re: [eSens] GEORGE CARLO'S ES TREATMENT PROTOCOL
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, August 17, 2009, 8:55 AM

Hi Loni, I cannot remember if you tried Earth calm plug in thing. Forthree years I was on 25 mg of Cortisol hormone and adrenal glandular called "adrenal rebuilder" from Dr. James Wilson. I dropped both a week after I plugged in Earthcalm. I also wear the anklet bracelet but I do not think that is as helpfull because when I experimented and unplugged the device,(stupid decision ) I got all of my symptoms back in an hour.

Sandra

--- On Mon, 8/17/09, paulpjc@aol. com <paulpjc@aol. com> wrote:

From: paulpjc@aol. com <paulpjc@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [eSens] GEORGE CARLO'S ES TREATMENT PROTOCOL
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Received: Monday, August 17, 2009, 6:44 AM

In a message dated 16/08/2009 20:38:46 GMT Daylight Time,
reader41@ymail. com writes:

I've been trying with suppliments for a very long time to get them working
to no avail.
They say you need to avoid stress number 1. Well how can I do that with 6
to 8 cell antennas out my back window. I'm fried to death every day. So I
still have hope but am losing it because my body is just under too much
stress on a day to day basis.

Loni

Paul uk replies - Certainly moving away from this evan for a relatively
short period should help to break the cycle of stress, the stress reaction
fuelled by anger, fear, frustration, and so on will probably have more of an
impact than the cell towers in the short term and also create a good ground
for deepening ES symptoms due to stress hormones which undoubtedly fuel the
ES reaction by effecting cell matabolism and reactive nervous system
responces.

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