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Re: Filter comparison II

Loni Rosser
Hi Diane,
 
That is interesting. I have problems with both phases. Think that is main reason I am sooooo sensitive. Loni

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Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 10:07 PM


 



Hi, Loni,
 
For me personally, it slows detox for around 4 hours--it depends on how fast your metabolism is, probably.  Grapefruit contains a chemical, naringenin, which slows phase I detox.  You may love grapefruit, Loni, because you are a "pathological detoxifier"- -someone who has a fast phase I, but slow phase II.
 
Diane

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From: Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Filter comparison II
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 2:55 PM

 

> Hmmm, I love & eat grapefruit all the time. What do you mean it stops the
> Phase I. For how long & how?  Never heard that before.  I have problems
> with the liver. Loni

I don't know the specifics... judging by my own "feel good" times, I'd
guess a few hours? Some prescription medications specifically warn
against eating grapefruit, as the liver won't metabolize the drugs
properly.

Marc

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Re: grapefruit

Marc Martin
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> It does initially give me some energy. I thought due to the sugar. Loni

I can think of a few explanations for the increased energy from grapefruit:

- the sugar

- suppression of phase I liver detox

- the acidity of the grapefruit, which would make someone
who has an overly-alkaline pH feel better initially,
but then feel worse later due to grapefruit having
a long-term alkalinizing effect (that is, it
acidifies in the short-term, but alkalinizes in
the long-term)

Marc

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Re: Quantum detox

Loni Rosser
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Hi Diane,
 
I am going to try the Quantum Pro or the Stezer Filters. What kind of relief of symptoms did you get from using the device? 
 
Loni

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Subject: Re: [eSens] Quantum detox
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 10:52 PM


 



Hi, Loni,
 
You ask:
"How much space does the Quantum Pro cover?"
 
I don't know for sure--I think it was around 3500 to 4000 sq ft.  (My house is 2100 sq ft, counting the basement.)  I was told, however, that the size is not the entire consideration.  You have a dial, and thenfine-tuning settings on the Q Pro.  Once the dial is maxed out, it was my understanding that you needed to add another device to it.  This is based on a discussion I had with Margi, the company rep, whereI mentioned to her that I was 3/4 up the dial and we yet intended to add on our garage to the electric panel.  She mentioned that I might need an extra device.  We haven't done that yet, so I cannot say yet whether that will ultimately be necessary or not.  
 
Diane 

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From: Loni <loni326@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Quantum detox
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 8:47 PM

 

How much space does the Quantum Pro cover?  Loni

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From: Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Quantum detox
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 1:33 PM

 

> I wasn't warned by the company but marc warned me and I didn't listen
> like a fool.

Well, Diane order a Quantum Pro, which is about a zillion times stronger
[more or less :-) ] than the Quantum power outlet. So I think a warning
would be in order for that. I don't think the company would expect
a detox reaction from the outlet.

Marc

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Re: Quantum detox

Marc Martin
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> I am going to try the Quantum Pro or the Stezer Filters. What kind of
> relief of symptoms did you get from using the device? 

Didn't you already try the Quantum Home, Loni? (or was that
the Earthcalm Home)

If you've already tried the Quantum Home and noticed no
difference, then I would think that you would notice no
difference with the Quantum Pro as well. The Pro is
just stronger and has a larger radius of effectiveness,
but is otherwise the same thing.

Marc

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Re: grapefruit

BiBrun
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Grapefruit inhibits some breakdown of chemicals in
the gut, so if you take it with drugs or vitamins they
are in effect more potent if they are subject to being
digested into something else.


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>
>
> > It does initially give me some energy. I thought due to the sugar. Loni
>
> I can think of a few explanations for the increased energy from grapefruit:
>
> - the sugar
>
> - suppression of phase I liver detox
>
> - the acidity of the grapefruit, which would make someone
> who has an overly-alkaline pH feel better initially,
> but then feel worse later due to grapefruit having
> a long-term alkalinizing effect (that is, it
> acidifies in the short-term, but alkalinizes in
> the long-term)
>
> Marc
>  
>


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Re: Quantum detox

Loni Rosser
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Hi Marc, It was Earthcalm. I have the "Comfort Clock" right now but don't see any benefit from it. So I am still searching for the device that might work for me. Loni

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From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Quantum detox
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, April 8, 2010, 10:09 AM


 



> I am going to try the Quantum Pro or the Stezer Filters. What kind of
> relief of symptoms did you get from using the device? 

Didn't you already try the Quantum Home, Loni? (or was that
the Earthcalm Home)

If you've already tried the Quantum Home and noticed no
difference, then I would think that you would notice no
difference with the Quantum Pro as well. The Pro is
just stronger and has a larger radius of effectiveness,
but is otherwise the same thing.

Marc








     

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Re: Quantum detox

Marc Martin
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> Hi Marc, It was Earthcalm. I have the "Comfort Clock" right now but don't
> see any benefit from it. So I am still searching for the device that
> might work for me.

Yeah, I don't know about the Comfort Clock. I mean, I have one, but I
don't think it's as good as a Quantum Home or Pro.

Also, don't underestimate some of the things you can carry on your
person. The Springlife Polarizer has been very helpful to me with
certain types of EMF. There are many sizes of Springlife Polarizers,
but I use the small 1" during the day, and the 2" at night. You
can buy those at choosecra.com, but I'm not sure what their
return policy is.

Marc

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Re: Quantum detox

Loni Rosser
Oh I didn't know you had a Comfort Clock. Ken really sold me on it but I amdisappointed.
I have a book of testimonials he sent me too. Go figure.
 
Since you and Diane really like the Quantum I think I might just try it butI'm leaning on trying the Stetzer Filters first.
 
I guess I'll keep in mind the polarizer. I have the QLink & the BioProtect Card.
 
Loni

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From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Quantum detox
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, April 8, 2010, 10:51 AM


 



> Hi Marc, It was Earthcalm. I have the "Comfort Clock" right now but don't
> see any benefit from it. So I am still searching for the device that
> might work for me.

Yeah, I don't know about the Comfort Clock. I mean, I have one, but I
don't think it's as good as a Quantum Home or Pro.

Also, don't underestimate some of the things you can carry on your
person. The Springlife Polarizer has been very helpful to me with
certain types of EMF. There are many sizes of Springlife Polarizers,
but I use the small 1" during the day, and the 2" at night. You
can buy those at choosecra.com, but I'm not sure what their
return policy is.

Marc








     

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Re: Quantum detox

Marc Martin
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> Oh I didn't know you had a Comfort Clock. Ken really sold me on it but I
> am disappointed.

Yes, I haveen't talked to Ken for years, but he was enthusiastic about
those clocks back then, too. :-) He also was enthusiastic about
the Bioelectric Shield, another EMF device that didn't do much of
anything for me, other than provoke an occasional heart palpitation. :-/

> I have a book of testimonials he sent me too. Go figure.

Testimonials are largely useless -- too often they are from
people who have only tried something for one day, or even worse,
haven't even tried it yet (!). Other times I think they attribute
a benefit to a product that really may have been due to something
else.

What I want to see are testimonials from people who have used
an item for an extended period of time, and then went without
it for some time to compare the difference. You never see
testimonials like that.

> Since you and Diane really like the Quantum I think I might just try it
> but I'm leaning on trying the Stetzer Filters first.

The Stetzer filters actually caused more problems for me
(sharp pain in my head was one symptom I recall).

Marc

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Re: Quantum detox

steve
Yeh, I jumped the gun also on the quantum powerstrips and outlets. So, I'm not sure about them yet.
The one problem i have with them is that the plastic is cheap and is outgassing and I have chemical allergies. There was also a fragrance smeel in thebox they came in and now is on the products also. The ones I disconnected are sitting in the garage to see if they air out.


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> From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Quantum detox
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Thursday, April 8, 2010, 11:43 AM
> > Oh I didn't know you had a
> Comfort Clock. Ken really sold me on it but I
> > am disappointed.
>
> Yes, I haveen't talked to Ken for years, but he was
> enthusiastic about
> those clocks back then, too.  :-)  He also was
> enthusiastic about
> the Bioelectric Shield, another EMF device that didn't do
> much of
> anything for me, other than provoke an occasional heart
> palpitation.  :-/
>
> > I have a book of testimonials he sent me too. Go
> figure.
>
> Testimonials are largely useless -- too often they are
> from
> people who have only tried something for one day, or even
> worse,
> haven't even tried it yet (!).  Other times I think
> they attribute
> a benefit to a product that really may have been due to
> something
> else.
>
> What I want to see are testimonials from people who have
> used
> an item for an extended period of time, and then went
> without
> it for some time to compare the difference.  You never
> see
> testimonials like that.
>
> > Since you and Diane really like the Quantum I think I
> might just try it
> > but I'm leaning on trying the Stetzer Filters first.
>
> The Stetzer filters actually caused more problems for me
> (sharp pain in my head was one symptom I recall).
>
> Marc
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>     [hidden email]
>
>
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RE: Grapefruit and detox

Ian Kemp
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Hi Loni,
Liver metabolic pathways (detox) consist of Phase I and Phase II. Lots of
people with MCS and ES seem to have problems with one or more of the Phase
II pathways being missing or broken. But problems with Phase I could give
similar symptoms.

It might be worth trying giving up grapefruit for a period and see what
effect it has. Of course, you might feel worse for a time if the detox
which had previously been inhibited starts going. But if it then helps to
clear some accumulated grot out of your system it could be very useful!

Sue's MCS and ES have got a lot better by treating the Phase II pathways
(and gut disease), but in conjunction with this she avoids grapefruit
completely.

As Marc mentions, some drugs are detoxified by Phase I and have specific
warnings on the packet "do not take with grapefruit".

Ian

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From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Loni
Sent: 07 April 2010 19:53
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [eSens] Filter comparison II




Hmmm, I love & eat grapefruit all the time. What do you mean it stops the
Phase I. For how long & how? Never heard that before. I have problems with
the liver. Loni

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<mailto:marc%40ufoseries.com> com> wrote:

From: Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. <mailto:marc%40ufoseries.com> com>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Filter comparison II
To: eSens@yahoogroups. <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> com
Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 11:42 AM



> I did not understand this post at all Diane? Is grapefruit bad or good?

Grapefruit stops liver phase I activity, which has a nice side effect
of stopping detox and making you feel better. But of course, since
the goal is the *eventually* detox, you should not take it all the
time.

I think this also applies to Grapefruit Seed Extract (GSE). At least,
a few drops of this can often make me feel better. But maybe that
is the anti-fungal/ bacterial/ virus properties (?)

Marc

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Loni Rosser
Hi Ian,
 
I agree with you on the liver pathways being the big picture in not dealingwith pollution. A liver test that measures enzymes & a protein is not an effective test for liver function.
 
What did Sue take for improving Phase II? 
 
I don't really eat grapefruit all the time. Twice a week I guess. Don't think I'll be doing that much anymore.
 
Loni

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From: Ian Kemp <[hidden email]>
Subject: RE: [eSens] Grapefruit and detox
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, April 8, 2010, 5:05 PM


 



Hi Loni,
Liver metabolic pathways (detox) consist of Phase I and Phase II. Lots of
people with MCS and ES seem to have problems with one or more of the Phase
II pathways being missing or broken. But problems with Phase I could give
similar symptoms.

It might be worth trying giving up grapefruit for a period and see what
effect it has. Of course, you might feel worse for a time if the detox
which had previously been inhibited starts going. But if it then helps to
clear some accumulated grot out of your system it could be very useful!

Sue's MCS and ES have got a lot better by treating the Phase II pathways
(and gut disease), but in conjunction with this she avoids grapefruit
completely.

As Marc mentions, some drugs are detoxified by Phase I and have specific
warnings on the packet "do not take with grapefruit".

Ian

_____

From: eSens@yahoogroups. com [mailto:eSens@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Loni
Sent: 07 April 2010 19:53
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [eSens] Filter comparison II

Hmmm, I love & eat grapefruit all the time. What do you mean it stops the
Phase I. For how long & how? Never heard that before. I have problems with
the liver. Loni

--- On Wed, 4/7/10, Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries.
<mailto:marc% 40ufoseries. com> com> wrote:

From: Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. <mailto:marc% 40ufoseries. com> com>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Filter comparison II
To: eSens@yahoogroups. <mailto:eSens% 40yahoogroups. com> com
Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 11:42 AM

> I did not understand this post at all Diane? Is grapefruit bad or good?

Grapefruit stops liver phase I activity, which has a nice side effect
of stopping detox and making you feel better. But of course, since
the goal is the *eventually* detox, you should not take it all the
time.

I think this also applies to Grapefruit Seed Extract (GSE). At least,
a few drops of this can often make me feel better. But maybe that
is the anti-fungal/ bacterial/ virus properties (?)

Marc

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Re: Quantum detox

charles-4
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Marc Martin,

you are a weird person.

You do react quite different to *things*, while other persons do have
positive reactions, for instance to the BioProtect card.

We have the BioElectrical shield, which performs also positive, but needs to
be recharged from time to time on a *purple plate*, or in the sun.

Also the Polarizer, as well as the Nabat.
But we found, after a long time, that the BioProtect card is as good as the
other *things*, and much cheaper.

Stetzer or Bajog filters do also give relief.

Now, we have found that the CMO basestation IV can help with *dirty air* as
well as magnetic fields.
http://www.ohm-electrocare.nl/component/option,com_wrapper/Itemid,117/lang,english/

So, your experiences are often contrary to the experience to other people.
And that is a big question mark for me, because I do not understand why that
occurs.
That some *things* do work more or less is quite natural, but quite the
opposite is strange.

I do know, that persons who are not so electrosenstive, do experience
adverse effects with a Bioprotect card.

Perhaps the reason may be, that you are using quite a number of devices.
These do make your vortexes turn the right way, but any other new device
contradicts this, and your vortexes turn then the wrong way.

In my opinion, it is best in trying *things* one at the time.

I have seen, that placing only one filter, an electrosensitive person
already *felt* much better.
It is possible, that adding another *thing* might reverse the positive
effect.

So, my advice is that with trying *things*, everybody should think carefully
what they are doing.
Some *things* can enhance and reinforce each other, while other can cause
adverse effects, und nullify its workings

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
checked by Norton



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From: "Marc Martin" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 8:43 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Quantum detox


>> Oh I didn't know you had a Comfort Clock. Ken really sold me on it but I
>> am disappointed.
>
> Yes, I haveen't talked to Ken for years, but he was enthusiastic about
> those clocks back then, too. :-) He also was enthusiastic about
> the Bioelectric Shield, another EMF device that didn't do much of
> anything for me, other than provoke an occasional heart palpitation. :-/
>
>> I have a book of testimonials he sent me too. Go figure.
>
> Testimonials are largely useless -- too often they are from
> people who have only tried something for one day, or even worse,
> haven't even tried it yet (!). Other times I think they attribute
> a benefit to a product that really may have been due to something
> else.
>
> What I want to see are testimonials from people who have used
> an item for an extended period of time, and then went without
> it for some time to compare the difference. You never see
> testimonials like that.
>
>> Since you and Diane really like the Quantum I think I might just try it
>> but I'm leaning on trying the Stetzer Filters first.
>
> The Stetzer filters actually caused more problems for me
> (sharp pain in my head was one symptom I recall).
>
> Marc
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

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Re: Quantum detox

Marc Martin
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> Marc Martin,
> you are a weird person.

Heh, heh... yes, I guess you could say that most on this
group would seem a bit weird to the average person... :-)

> You do react quite different to *things*, while other persons do have
> positive reactions, for instance to the BioProtect card.

Actually, I have not seen that many positive reports on the BioProtect
card on this group. Maybe that is simply because people have not tried
it, but I also recall some people trying it and reporting a similar
reaction as mine.

> We have the BioElectrical shield, which performs also positive

Again, how many people on this group have reported positive results
with the BioElectric Sheild? Other than yourself, I'd say that
zero people here have reported benefits. Again, this could be from
lack of trying...

> Now, we have found that the CMO basestation IV can help with *dirty air*
> as well as magnetic fields.

Hmmmm, haven't tried that...

> Perhaps the reason may be, that you are using quite a number of devices.

This could be. I do seem to be rather reluctant to unplug my Quantum
Products devices. So some of these items may be incompatible.

> In my opinion, it is best in trying *things* one at the time.

Maybe, but given the nasty environment I have at work, only the
Quantum Products have proven strong enough to be really helpful.

Marc

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Re: Quantum detox

Loni Rosser
In reply to this post by charles-4
So, my advice is that with trying *things*, everybody should think carefully
what they are doing.
Some *things* can enhance and reinforce each other, while other can cause
adverse effects, und nullify its workings

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I think that makes a lot of sense Charles. I am trying the BioProtect Card & haven't noticed anything significant yet. Loni
 
 

From: charles <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Quantum detox
To: [hidden email]
Date: Friday, April 9, 2010, 1:44 AM


 



Marc Martin,

you are a weird person.

You do react quite different to *things*, while other persons do have
positive reactions, for instance to the BioProtect card.

We have the BioElectrical shield, which performs also positive, but needs to
be recharged from time to time on a *purple plate*, or in the sun.

Also the Polarizer, as well as the Nabat.
But we found, after a long time, that the BioProtect card is as good as the
other *things*, and much cheaper.

Stetzer or Bajog filters do also give relief.

Now, we have found that the CMO basestation IV can help with *dirty air* as
well as magnetic fields.
http://www.ohm- electrocare. nl/component/ option,com_ wrapper/Itemid, 117/lang, english/

So, your experiences are often contrary to the experience to other people.
And that is a big question mark for me, because I do not understand why that
occurs.
That some *things* do work more or less is quite natural, but quite the
opposite is strange.

I do know, that persons who are not so electrosenstive, do experience
adverse effects with a Bioprotect card.

Perhaps the reason may be, that you are using quite a number of devices.
These do make your vortexes turn the right way, but any other new device
contradicts this, and your vortexes turn then the wrong way.

In my opinion, it is best in trying *things* one at the time.

I have seen, that placing only one filter, an electrosensitive person
already *felt* much better.
It is possible, that adding another *thing* might reverse the positive
effect.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes. nl
www.milieuziektes. be
www.hetbitje. nl
checked by Norton

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From: "Marc Martin" <marc@ufoseries. com>
To: <eSens@yahoogroups. com>
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 8:43 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Quantum detox

>> Oh I didn't know you had a Comfort Clock. Ken really sold me on it but I
>> am disappointed.
>
> Yes, I haveen't talked to Ken for years, but he was enthusiastic about
> those clocks back then, too. :-) He also was enthusiastic about
> the Bioelectric Shield, another EMF device that didn't do much of
> anything for me, other than provoke an occasional heart palpitation. :-/
>
>> I have a book of testimonials he sent me too. Go figure.
>
> Testimonials are largely useless -- too often they are from
> people who have only tried something for one day, or even worse,
> haven't even tried it yet (!). Other times I think they attribute
> a benefit to a product that really may have been due to something
> else.
>
> What I want to see are testimonials from people who have used
> an item for an extended period of time, and then went without
> it for some time to compare the difference. You never see
> testimonials like that.
>
>> Since you and Diane really like the Quantum I think I might just try it
>> but I'm leaning on trying the Stetzer Filters first.
>
> The Stetzer filters actually caused more problems for me
> (sharp pain in my head was one symptom I recall).
>
> Marc
>
>
> ------------ --------- --------- ------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>









     

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Re: Quantum detox

charles-4
In reply to this post by Marc Martin
Hello Marc,

weird is perhaps a wrong expression.
How about contrary, or deviative ?
Or extra-ordinary ?

Overhere, there a quite a large number of persons who benefit from the
BioProtect card.

Because we do have here 220Volt and 50 Hz, and are using other plugs, those
american appliances are not usable here.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
checked by Norton













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From: "Marc Martin" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 4:51 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Quantum detox


>> Marc Martin,
>> you are a weird person.
>
> Heh, heh... yes, I guess you could say that most on this
> group would seem a bit weird to the average person... :-)
>
>> You do react quite different to *things*, while other persons do have
>> positive reactions, for instance to the BioProtect card.
>
> Actually, I have not seen that many positive reports on the BioProtect
> card on this group. Maybe that is simply because people have not tried
> it, but I also recall some people trying it and reporting a similar
> reaction as mine.
>
>> We have the BioElectrical shield, which performs also positive
>
> Again, how many people on this group have reported positive results
> with the BioElectric Sheild? Other than yourself, I'd say that
> zero people here have reported benefits. Again, this could be from
> lack of trying...
>
>> Now, we have found that the CMO basestation IV can help with *dirty air*
>> as well as magnetic fields.
>
> Hmmmm, haven't tried that...
>
>> Perhaps the reason may be, that you are using quite a number of devices.
>
> This could be. I do seem to be rather reluctant to unplug my Quantum
> Products devices. So some of these items may be incompatible.
>
>> In my opinion, it is best in trying *things* one at the time.
>
> Maybe, but given the nasty environment I have at work, only the
> Quantum Products have proven strong enough to be really helpful.
>
> Marc
>
>
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Re: Quantum detox

Marc Martin
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> Because we do have here 220Volt and 50 Hz, and are using other plugs,
> those american appliances are not usable here.

My understanding is that the Quantum Companion, Quantum Home, and
Quantum Pro should work fine in Europe. The Quantum Companion
requires a single AA battery. The Quantum Home and Quantum Pro
run on 12v DC, so the appropriate adapter would be needed. I
don't know if the company provides a 220v adapter or a universal
adapter.

Marc

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Re: Quantum detox

evie15422
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Lol Charles,
 
Not deviative!  ;)  Here that would be worse than weird.  lol  We use the term "deviant" to denote a person who is psychopathic.
 
As to Marc, I actually find that Marc and I react very similarly to many things, so I use him as a barometer!  But to be fair, I have never tried a bio-protect card.  I was wondering tho.... does a bio-protect card ever need cleared, Charles (or Dietrich!  Since you were the inventor I believe)?  I was wondering because I have heard many say the card works for them for a period of time and then doesn't work at all or makes them worse.  I see the same thing with gemstones (but I just clear them and they are fine.)
 
Thanks, Diane

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From: charles <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Quantum detox
To: [hidden email]
Date: Friday, April 9, 2010, 11:19 AM


 



Hello Marc,

weird is perhaps a wrong expression.
How about contrary, or deviative ?
Or extra-ordinary ?

Overhere, there a quite a large number of persons who benefit from the
BioProtect card.

Because we do have here 220Volt and 50 Hz, and are using other plugs, those
american appliances are not usable here.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes. nl
www.milieuziektes. be
www.hetbitje. nl
checked by Norton

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marc Martin" <marc@ufoseries. com>
To: <eSens@yahoogroups. com>
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 4:51 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Quantum detox

>> Marc Martin,
>> you are a weird person.
>
> Heh, heh... yes, I guess you could say that most on this
> group would seem a bit weird to the average person... :-)
>
>> You do react quite different to *things*, while other persons do have
>> positive reactions, for instance to the BioProtect card.
>
> Actually, I have not seen that many positive reports on the BioProtect
> card on this group. Maybe that is simply because people have not tried
> it, but I also recall some people trying it and reporting a similar
> reaction as mine.
>
>> We have the BioElectrical shield, which performs also positive
>
> Again, how many people on this group have reported positive results
> with the BioElectric Sheild? Other than yourself, I'd say that
> zero people here have reported benefits. Again, this could be from
> lack of trying...
>
>> Now, we have found that the CMO basestation IV can help with *dirty air*
>> as well as magnetic fields.
>
> Hmmmm, haven't tried that...
>
>> Perhaps the reason may be, that you are using quite a number of devices.
>
> This could be. I do seem to be rather reluctant to unplug my Quantum
> Products devices. So some of these items may be incompatible.
>
>> In my opinion, it is best in trying *things* one at the time.
>
> Maybe, but given the nasty environment I have at work, only the
> Quantum Products have proven strong enough to be really helpful.
>
> Marc
>
>
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Re: Filter comparison II

evie15422
In reply to this post by Loni Rosser
Because detoxing is what causes foggy head.
 
Diane

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From: Loni <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Filter comparison II
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, April 8, 2010, 12:20 PM


 



Hi Diane, Why would it relieve you of foggy head if it stops the detox of your liver pathway?
 
It does initially give me some energy. I thought due to the sugar. Loni

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From: Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Filter comparison II
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 9:43 PM

 

It is bad or good depending on what your objective is, Loni.  If you want to feel temporarily better, eat it.  But if you actually want to get toxins out of your body, don't eat it.  In other words, if you havea really bad detox reaction, or are always foggy headed, it will give you temporary relief; but you are not going to want to use it all the time.
 
Diane

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From: Loni <loni326@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Filter comparison II
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 2:19 PM

 

I did not understand this post at all Diane? Is grapefruit bad or good?  Loni

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From: Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Filter comparison II
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 11:13 AM

 

Grapefruit, Paul,
 
But you won't want to do that forever, or you won't detox anything.  Drats.  lol  I used to LUUUUV grapefruit; now I know why.  Itstops with the liver detox phases.
 
Diane

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From: paulpjc@aol. com <paulpjc@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Filter comparison II
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 4:12 AM

 

Puk - Just imagine if that Detox theory about feeling crap lasted for the
rest of your days, is there anything that you can take for the detox crap
feeling ?

In a message dated 07/04/2010 04:43:10 GMT Daylight Time,
torch369@yahoo. com writes:

-- felt unusually good the first day

> -- felt like crap for the next several days
>
> The feeling like crap is detox.
>
> If you think that is happening to you, and the Quantum
> stuff is the
> cause, just cut back. But maybe you're feeling lousy
> for other
> reasons.
>

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Re: Quantum detox

evie15422
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Hi, Loni,
 
<What kind of relief of symptoms did you get from using the device?> 

I sent this to you privately, but incase someone else is wondering....the QPro device helped me sleep, helped anxiety, blood pressure, heart palps, ability to breathe deeper and more productively, chills and sweats,... (basically all the autonomic nervous system symptoms), and headaches.  It caused, at first, more detox and foggy headedness, clumsiness....  I think I was also dizzy(er).

Diane
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Subject: Re: [eSens] Quantum detox
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, April 8, 2010, 12:54 PM


 



Hi Diane,
 
I am going to try the Quantum Pro or the Stezer Filters. What kind of relief of symptoms did you get from using the device? 
 
Loni

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From: Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Quantum detox
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 10:52 PM

 

Hi, Loni,
 
You ask:
"How much space does the Quantum Pro cover?"
 
I don't know for sure--I think it was around 3500 to 4000 sq ft.  (My house is 2100 sq ft, counting the basement.)  I was told, however, that the size is not the entire consideration.  You have a dial, and thenfine-tuning settings on the Q Pro.  Once the dial is maxed out, it was my understanding that you needed to add another device to it.  This is based on a discussion I had with Margi, the company rep, whereI mentioned to her that I was 3/4 up the dial and we yet intended to add on our garage to the electric panel.  She mentioned that I might need an extra device.  We haven't done that yet, so I cannot say yet whether that will ultimately be necessary or not.  
 
Diane 

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From: Loni <loni326@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Quantum detox
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 8:47 PM

 

How much space does the Quantum Pro cover?  Loni

--- On Wed, 4/7/10, Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com> wrote:

From: Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Quantum detox
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 1:33 PM

 

> I wasn't warned by the company but marc warned me and I didn't listen
> like a fool.

Well, Diane order a Quantum Pro, which is about a zillion times stronger
[more or less :-) ] than the Quantum power outlet. So I think a warning
would be in order for that. I don't think the company would expect
a detox reaction from the outlet.

Marc

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