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Hi, Steve and Marc,
Hope you don't mind my jumping into this conversation. (Btw, the forum has been prolific in the past week--I had over 200 emails since I left last week! It will take me another month just to catch up! lol) Steve, I, like Marc, love Quantum products and see great help symptom-wise from them. I also found detoxing is huge at first when you use Quantum products. I was warned of this when I bought mine. I didn't heed the warning, because I really needed reduction of ES symptoms badly--I could not sleep at all or sit down in that house. I was willing to put up with the bad detox symptoms rather than have to endure the ES ones. HOWEVER, I paid a price for doing so. I had anaccident due to foggy thinking which nearly cost me the use of my left hand (and really my life--I severed a major artery.) So, it is best to heed the warnings of the company rep. Go slowly when you buy a Quantumproduct. In the case of the strips, I would built up tolerance slowly by using them an increasing number of hours each day--maybe starting with only 1 hour. My 2 cents, Diane --- On Tue, 4/6/10, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Filter comparison II To: [hidden email] Date: Tuesday, April 6, 2010, 10:29 PM > I haven't noticed any health benefits to the quantum strip/outlets. In > fact i have been feeling quite lousy lately but I'm sure its unrelated. Actually, if I go back to when I first started using the Quantum stuff, the pattern was this: -- felt unusually good the first day -- felt like crap for the next several days The feeling like crap is detox. If you think that is happening to you, and the Quantum stuff is the cause, just cut back. But maybe you're feeling lousy for other reasons. Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Grapefruit, Paul,
But you won't want to do that forever, or you won't detox anything. Drats. lol I used to LUUUUV grapefruit; now I know why. Itstops with the liver detox phases. Diane --- On Wed, 4/7/10, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote: From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Filter comparison II To: [hidden email] Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 4:12 AM Puk - Just imagine if that Detox theory about feeling crap lasted for the rest of your days, is there anything that you can take for the detox crap feeling ? In a message dated 07/04/2010 04:43:10 GMT Daylight Time, torch369@yahoo. com writes: -- felt unusually good the first day > -- felt like crap for the next several days > > The feeling like crap is detox. > > If you think that is happening to you, and the Quantum > stuff is the > cause, just cut back. But maybe you're feeling lousy > for other > reasons. > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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I did not understand this post at all Diane? Is grapefruit bad or good? Loni
--- On Wed, 4/7/10, Evie <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Evie <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Filter comparison II To: [hidden email] Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 11:13 AM Grapefruit, Paul, But you won't want to do that forever, or you won't detox anything. Drats. lol I used to LUUUUV grapefruit; now I know why. Itstops with the liver detox phases. Diane --- On Wed, 4/7/10, paulpjc@aol. com <paulpjc@aol. com> wrote: From: paulpjc@aol. com <paulpjc@aol. com> Subject: Re: [eSens] Filter comparison II To: eSens@yahoogroups. com Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 4:12 AM Puk - Just imagine if that Detox theory about feeling crap lasted for the rest of your days, is there anything that you can take for the detox crap feeling ? In a message dated 07/04/2010 04:43:10 GMT Daylight Time, torch369@yahoo. com writes: -- felt unusually good the first day > -- felt like crap for the next several days > > The feeling like crap is detox. > > If you think that is happening to you, and the Quantum > stuff is the > cause, just cut back. But maybe you're feeling lousy > for other > reasons. > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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> I did not understand this post at all Diane? Is grapefruit bad or good?
Grapefruit stops liver phase I activity, which has a nice side effect of stopping detox and making you feel better. But of course, since the goal is the *eventually* detox, you should not take it all the time. I think this also applies to Grapefruit Seed Extract (GSE). At least, a few drops of this can often make me feel better. But maybe that is the anti-fungal/bacterial/virus properties (?) Marc |
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Hmmm, I love & eat grapefruit all the time. What do you mean it stops the Phase I. For how long & how? Never heard that before. I have problems with the liver. Loni
--- On Wed, 4/7/10, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Filter comparison II To: [hidden email] Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 11:42 AM > I did not understand this post at all Diane? Is grapefruit bad or good? Grapefruit stops liver phase I activity, which has a nice side effect of stopping detox and making you feel better. But of course, since the goal is the *eventually* detox, you should not take it all the time. I think this also applies to Grapefruit Seed Extract (GSE). At least, a few drops of this can often make me feel better. But maybe that is the anti-fungal/ bacterial/ virus properties (?) Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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> I also found detoxing is huge at first when you use Quantum
> products. I was warned of this when I bought mine. The thing is, some people notice nothing at all from this stuff, so it's impossible to predict who is going to detox and who is not. > In the case of the strips, I would built > up tolerance slowly by using them an increasing number of hours each > day--maybe starting with only 1 hour. The nice thing about the Quantum Products is that you can unplug them or turn them off, and they are no longer affecting you. There are other EMF protection devices (pendants, etc.) that I have found to be so strong and so intolerable that I had to simply banish them from the house, as there was no way to turn them off. I remember one was so bad that I drove it to a local park and abandoned it in a bush... Marc |
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> Hmmm, I love & eat grapefruit all the time. What do you mean it stops the
> Phase I. For how long & how? Never heard that before. I have problems > with the liver. Loni I don't know the specifics... judging by my own "feel good" times, I'd guess a few hours? Some prescription medications specifically warn against eating grapefruit, as the liver won't metabolize the drugs properly. Marc |
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Hi Diane,
I wasn't warned by the company but marc warned me and I didn't listen like a fool. I now only have one outlet model which my fridge is plugged into. I unplugged the rest and turned the software off. Lets see what happens. Steve --- On Wed, 4/7/10, Evie <[hidden email]> wrote: > From: Evie <[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Filter comparison II > To: [hidden email] > Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 10:59 AM > Hi, Steve and Marc, > > Hope you don't mind my jumping into this conversation. > (Btw, the forum has been prolific in the past week--I had > over 200 emails since I left last week! It will take me > another month just to catch up! lol) Steve, I, like > Marc, love Quantum products and see great help symptom-wise > from them. I also found detoxing is huge at first when > you use Quantum products. I was warned of this when I > bought mine. I didn't heed the warning, because I really > needed reduction of ES symptoms badly--I could not sleep at > all or sit down in that house. I was willing to put up > with the bad detox symptoms rather than have to endure the > ES ones. HOWEVER, I paid a price for doing so. I had an > accident due to foggy thinking which nearly cost me the use > of my left hand (and really my life--I severed a major > artery.) So, it is best to heed the warnings of the > company rep. Go slowly when you buy a Quantum product. > In the case of the strips, I would built > up tolerance slowly by using them an increasing number of > hours each day--maybe starting with only 1 hour. > > My 2 cents, > Diane > > --- On Tue, 4/6/10, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> > wrote: > > > From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Filter comparison II > To: [hidden email] > Date: Tuesday, April 6, 2010, 10:29 PM > > > > > > > > I haven't noticed any health benefits to the quantum > strip/outlets. In > > fact i have been feeling quite lousy lately but I'm > sure its unrelated. > > Actually, if I go back to when I first started using the > Quantum stuff, > the pattern was this: > > -- felt unusually good the first day > -- felt like crap for the next several days > > The feeling like crap is detox. > > If you think that is happening to you, and the Quantum > stuff is the > cause, just cut back. But maybe you're feeling lousy for > other > reasons. > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [hidden email] > > > |
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> I wasn't warned by the company but marc warned me and I didn't listen
> like a fool. Well, Diane order a Quantum Pro, which is about a zillion times stronger [more or less :-) ] than the Quantum power outlet. So I think a warning would be in order for that. I don't think the company would expect a detox reaction from the outlet. Marc |
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Its possible it is just a coincidence. I just have the 2 minimax outlets inthe kitchen now. I dont think I'll notice anything different. The 5 outletdoesn't seem to be as effective as the 3 outlets, at least according to the entech meter
--- On Wed, 4/7/10, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: > From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Quantum detox > To: [hidden email] > Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 1:33 PM > > I wasn't warned by the company > but marc warned me and I didn't listen > > like a fool. > > Well, Diane order a Quantum Pro, which is about a zillion > times stronger > [more or less :-) ] than the Quantum power outlet. So > I think a warning > would be in order for that. I don't think the company > would expect > a detox reaction from the outlet. > > Marc > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [hidden email] > > > |
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> Its possible it is just a coincidence. I just have the 2 minimax outlets
> in the kitchen now. I dont think I'll notice anything different. The 5 > outlet doesn't seem to be as effective as the 3 outlets, at least > according to the entech meter Yes, but the Entech meter doesn't measure whatever is causing the detox... Marc |
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wow, never knew & it's a shame cuz I love grapefruit. Loni
--- On Wed, 4/7/10, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Filter comparison II To: [hidden email] Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 11:55 AM > Hmmm, I love & eat grapefruit all the time. What do you mean it stops the > Phase I. For how long & how? Never heard that before. I have problems > with the liver. Loni I don't know the specifics... judging by my own "feel good" times, I'd guess a few hours? Some prescription medications specifically warn against eating grapefruit, as the liver won't metabolize the drugs properly. Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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How much space does the Quantum Pro cover? Loni
--- On Wed, 4/7/10, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Quantum detox To: [hidden email] Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 1:33 PM > I wasn't warned by the company but marc warned me and I didn't listen > like a fool. Well, Diane order a Quantum Pro, which is about a zillion times stronger [more or less :-) ] than the Quantum power outlet. So I think a warning would be in order for that. I don't think the company would expect a detox reaction from the outlet. Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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This is true, but i figure if I'm only going to use 2 of them i may as welluse the 3s.
--- On Wed, 4/7/10, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: > From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Quantum detox > To: [hidden email] > Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 3:20 PM > > Its possible it is just a > coincidence. I just have the 2 minimax outlets > > in the kitchen now. I dont think I'll notice anything > different. The 5 > > outlet doesn't seem to be as effective as the 3 > outlets, at least > > according to the entech meter > > Yes, but the Entech meter doesn't measure whatever is > causing the > detox... > > Marc > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [hidden email] > > > |
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> How much space does the Quantum Pro cover? Loni
I think it depends on a number of factors -- how much noise is in the environment (which would lessen its effectiveness), where it is placed, etc. When Vinny Pinto recently sold his Quantum Home unit on eBay, he somehow came up with effective radius of 85 feet. The Quantum Pro is supposed to be quite a bit stronger than the Quantum Home. These things have a knob which you can used to reduce the strength. Marc |
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It is bad or good depending on what your objective is, Loni. If you want to feel temporarily better, eat it. But if you actually want to get toxins out of your body, don't eat it. In other words, if you havea really bad detox reaction, or are always foggy headed, it will give you temporary relief; but you are not going to want to use it all the time.
Diane --- On Wed, 4/7/10, Loni <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Loni <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Filter comparison II To: [hidden email] Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 2:19 PM I did not understand this post at all Diane? Is grapefruit bad or good? Loni --- On Wed, 4/7/10, Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com> wrote: From: Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com> Subject: Re: [eSens] Filter comparison II To: eSens@yahoogroups. com Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 11:13 AM Grapefruit, Paul, But you won't want to do that forever, or you won't detox anything. Drats. lol I used to LUUUUV grapefruit; now I know why. Itstops with the liver detox phases. Diane --- On Wed, 4/7/10, paulpjc@aol. com <paulpjc@aol. com> wrote: From: paulpjc@aol. com <paulpjc@aol. com> Subject: Re: [eSens] Filter comparison II To: eSens@yahoogroups. com Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 4:12 AM Puk - Just imagine if that Detox theory about feeling crap lasted for the rest of your days, is there anything that you can take for the detox crap feeling ? In a message dated 07/04/2010 04:43:10 GMT Daylight Time, torch369@yahoo. com writes: -- felt unusually good the first day > -- felt like crap for the next several days > > The feeling like crap is detox. > > If you think that is happening to you, and the Quantum > stuff is the > cause, just cut back. But maybe you're feeling lousy > for other > reasons. > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Hi, Loni,
For me personally, it slows detox for around 4 hours--it depends on how fast your metabolism is, probably. Grapefruit contains a chemical, naringenin, which slows phase I detox. You may love grapefruit, Loni, because you are a "pathological detoxifier"--someone who has a fast phase I, but slow phase II. Diane --- On Wed, 4/7/10, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Filter comparison II To: [hidden email] Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 2:55 PM > Hmmm, I love & eat grapefruit all the time. What do you mean it stops the > Phase I. For how long & how? Never heard that before. I have problems > with the liver. Loni I don't know the specifics... judging by my own "feel good" times, I'd guess a few hours? Some prescription medications specifically warn against eating grapefruit, as the liver won't metabolize the drugs properly. Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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True, but Steve also has put in multiple strips--it might be why he isfeeling "off". (And also, I didn't write this only for Steve; I think it bares repeating occasionally). Yes, you can put up with detox symptoms, but it might be unwise to do so. Certainly, the detox I was experiencing from the Q Pro was alot more than Steve is likely dealing with. But when one gets these gadgets he/she doesn't necessarilyknow what to expect. You are looking for good results and it can be confusing when you get detox going on.
Diane --- On Wed, 4/7/10, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Quantum detox To: [hidden email] Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 4:33 PM > I wasn't warned by the company but marc warned me and I didn't listen > like a fool. Well, Diane order a Quantum Pro, which is about a zillion times stronger [more or less :-) ] than the Quantum power outlet. So I think a warning would be in order for that. I don't think the company would expect a detox reaction from the outlet. Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Hi, Loni,
You ask: "How much space does the Quantum Pro cover?" I don't know for sure--I think it was around 3500 to 4000 sq ft. (My house is 2100 sq ft, counting the basement.) I was told, however, that the size is not the entire consideration. You have a dial, and thenfine-tuning settings on the Q Pro. Once the dial is maxed out, it was my understanding that you needed to add another device to it. This is based on a discussion I had with Margi, the company rep, whereI mentioned to her that I was 3/4 up the dial and we yet intended to add on our garage to the electric panel. She mentioned that I might need an extra device. We haven't done that yet, so I cannot say yet whether that will ultimately be necessary or not. Diane --- On Wed, 4/7/10, Loni <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Loni <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Quantum detox To: [hidden email] Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 8:47 PM How much space does the Quantum Pro cover? Loni --- On Wed, 4/7/10, Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com> wrote: From: Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com> Subject: Re: [eSens] Quantum detox To: eSens@yahoogroups. com Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 1:33 PM > I wasn't warned by the company but marc warned me and I didn't listen > like a fool. Well, Diane order a Quantum Pro, which is about a zillion times stronger [more or less :-) ] than the Quantum power outlet. So I think a warning would be in order for that. I don't think the company would expect a detox reaction from the outlet. Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Hi Diane, Why would it relieve you of foggy head if it stops the detox of your liver pathway?
It does initially give me some energy. I thought due to the sugar. Loni --- On Wed, 4/7/10, Evie <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Evie <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Filter comparison II To: [hidden email] Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 9:43 PM It is bad or good depending on what your objective is, Loni. If you want to feel temporarily better, eat it. But if you actually want to get toxins out of your body, don't eat it. In other words, if you havea really bad detox reaction, or are always foggy headed, it will give you temporary relief; but you are not going to want to use it all the time. Diane --- On Wed, 4/7/10, Loni <loni326@yahoo. com> wrote: From: Loni <loni326@yahoo. com> Subject: Re: [eSens] Filter comparison II To: eSens@yahoogroups. com Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 2:19 PM I did not understand this post at all Diane? Is grapefruit bad or good? Loni --- On Wed, 4/7/10, Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com> wrote: From: Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com> Subject: Re: [eSens] Filter comparison II To: eSens@yahoogroups. com Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 11:13 AM Grapefruit, Paul, But you won't want to do that forever, or you won't detox anything. Drats. lol I used to LUUUUV grapefruit; now I know why. Itstops with the liver detox phases. Diane --- On Wed, 4/7/10, paulpjc@aol. com <paulpjc@aol. com> wrote: From: paulpjc@aol. com <paulpjc@aol. com> Subject: Re: [eSens] Filter comparison II To: eSens@yahoogroups. com Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 4:12 AM Puk - Just imagine if that Detox theory about feeling crap lasted for the rest of your days, is there anything that you can take for the detox crap feeling ? In a message dated 07/04/2010 04:43:10 GMT Daylight Time, torch369@yahoo. com writes: -- felt unusually good the first day > -- felt like crap for the next several days > > The feeling like crap is detox. > > If you think that is happening to you, and the Quantum > stuff is the > cause, just cut back. But maybe you're feeling lousy > for other > reasons. > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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