EMF

> > Is an internet based broadband phone considered
> > "landline?"
>
> Oooh, you're in new territory here. I suppose that
> in a way, if the phone has a cord (not wireless),
> then
> it could be considered a "land line". However,
> there
> may be some other issues here with the digitization
> of
> the signal that may make a broadband phone worse
> than
> an old-fashioned analog phone.
>
> > Is there anything you can do when you have to use
> cell
> > phones and can't avoid it?
>
> Sometimes you can apply something to the phone (e.g,
> a special sticker or bead, etc.), or wear a pendant
> that would make a cellphone less bothersome. But
> you may have to try several options before finding
> something satisfactory.

>
> > I have one of those earphone thing
> > but never use it (poor sound quality) and also
> because
> > I heard that some of them actually make the
> radiation
> > worse. Is that true?
>
> I would base your opinion on which method makes you
> feel worse.

>
> > So, I was 17 inches from the monitor, now am 26.5.
> Is
> > that significant. It is almost one an a half
> times! It
> > seemed like it actually ehlped alot!
> Suprisingly!!!
>
> Yes, that should indeed help. You may also want to
> (if possible) move the computer even further away,

>
> > Also, I turned the power settings different - will
> > this help?
> >
> > Changed "turn monitor off" to after 1 min
> > Turn hard disks off to after 3 min
> > go to standby - after 1 min
> >
> > (will that help?)
>
> That will help if you're just sitting next to the
> monitor and not using it. However, if you are
> actually using the computer, then you're going
> to have to have it turned on! (you could also
> manually put the computer to sleep if you're
> not using it)

>
> > Also would it help to turn off or unplug the
> printer?
> > The scanner?
>
> I doubt it, but it might. It's worth a try.
>
> > What about other electircal things? Like space
> > heaters, alarm clocks, hair dryer, microwave, cell
> > phone charger,
>
> You should be most concerned about things you
> spend a lot of time nearby. Like an alarm
> clock which your near 8 hours/day. I'd keep
> that 3 feet away from you.

> Hi, Christina,
>
> I do not react to cell phones when they are turned
> off. Someone here suggested I use a lead lined bag
> to keep my cell phone in while charging it, as it
> bothered me while I was charging it. I have not
> tried that yet. (Instead, I charge my phone in an
> unused room on the far side of the house.) However,
> I still plan to try the lead lined bag when I locate
> one. (They are used to protect camera film.)

>
> Also, I used to have my computer monitor 6 feet
> away and used a remote keyboard. I could see the
> monitor well for most purposes and it was close
> enough to read, if I manipulated the display
> settings. I do not have ES symptoms from my
> computer, so I don't know if that would help you or
> not; I had this setup due to being bed-bound from
> illness. I now use a laptop, but now I am only
> online about an hour or two/day, so I do not have
> much exposure, anyway.
>
> My best to you (and welcome!),

> Diane
> Christina R <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>
> --- Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Christina,
> > Here is an email address for Charles Keen
> > [hidden email]
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
> > I have had mixed results with my faraday cage a
> > couple of years ago
> > when I lived next door to the towers.
>
>
> Mixed results? What was badd about it?
>
>
> >
> > It sounds like most of your problems come from
> over
> > exposure to cell
> > phones and computer screens. These are easy to
> > remedy. Don't use a cell
> > phone, or cordless phone; use a land line phone.
>
> Is an internet based broadband phone considered
> "landline?"
>
> Is there anything you can do when you have to use
> cell
> phones and can't avoid it? How much does
> "limiting"
> your exposure help? Would it help for me to turn my
> phone off as much as possible (I have it on and
> right
> next to me 24/7) I have one of those earphone
> thing
> but never use it (poor sound quality) and also
> because
> I heard that some of them actually make the
> radiation
> worse. Is that true? Is there anything I can do to
> the cell phone to make it stop harming me? I guess
> the only thing I could think of to reduce cell phone
> use would be to get calling cards and go to a pay
> phone?
>
> > Experiment with low radiation screens for your
> > computer and limit your
> > time on it. Back away as far as you can from it.
>
> Back away from it -- oay that was really doable and
> I
> just rearranged my cmoputer:
>
> Before it was
> 9 inches to edge of keyboard (now 11 - moved
> adjustable tray)
>
> plus an additional:
>
> 5 inches to computer base (now 11.5 - shoved it
> back)
>
> plus an additional
>
> 3 inches to front of monitor (now 4 inches, moved it
> back too)
>
>
> So, I was 17 inches from the monitor, now am 26.5.
> Is
> that significant. It is almost one an a half times!
> It
> seemed like it actually ehlped alot! Suprisingly!!!
>
>
> Also, I turned the power settings different - will
> this help?
>
> Changed "turn monitor off" to after 1 min
> Turn hard disks off to after 3 min
> go to standby - after 1 min
>
> (will that help?)
>
> Also would it help to turn off or unplug the
> printer?
> The scanner?
>
>
>
> Anything else "easy" to do as far as computers/cell
> phones? (Since that is a really big thing for me as
> far as amount of time on them.)
>
>
> What about other electircal things? Like space
> heaters, alarm clocks, hair dryer, microwave, cell
> phone charger,
>
> TENS unit (is this bad electrically? I use it for
> pain
> and muscle stuff)
>
>
> >
> > Get a gauss meter that reads magnetic fields and
> get
> > an RF meter than
> > measures microwave/radio radiation.
>
>
> Is the "trifield" meter okay to get for these
> uses???
>
>
> You don't need
> > to spend more than
> > $100 to get the basics covered. You need to know
> if
> > you are working and
> > sleeping in an environment with more than 2 mG.
> 0.00
> > is the goal.
> >
> > You want as low as possible RF radiation as
> possible
> > so you need to
> > know when things are lower and confirm it.
> >
> > As far as wiring, the gauss meter can tell you
> > quickly if things are
> > wired well or not. If anything is over 2 mg at hip
> > level, you have a
> > problem. Get all the appliances like heaters,
> power
> > strips, fuse boxes,
> > etc away from you because they will create
> magnetic
> > fields far in
> > excess of what is healthy.
> > Stetzer Microsurge meter
> > http://www.stetzerelectric.com/
> > can tell you how much excess radiation and
> appliance
> > harmonics are
> > flooding your electrical system. Stetzer Filters
> and
> > power strips
> >
>

> > can significantly reduce these emissions along the
> > wiring.
> >
> > As far as radio/microwave protection, for 2 years,
> I
> > slept with a
> > fabric wrapped around my head that had silver
> lining
> > in it and it
> > helped me tremendously while I slept. I have a
> > shielded hat that I wear
> > frequently while shopping, in restaurants, etc,
> > whenever I am around
> > cell phones or wireless internet.
>
>
> What kind of fabric did you wrap around your head?
> Can
> you use one of those "silver blankets" that are sold
> for keeping warm in emergencies? Or aluminum foil?
> Or
> something else easily found in a store?
>
> Shielded hat - does that protect? I read something
> that it does (by the people selling it!) and also
> read
> another thing that any of that doesn't help because
> it
> is not "grounded"....any info on that?
>
>
> Wireless internet?! I didn't realize that was a
> problem?! I have that at my house! Yikes.
>
> Also, would it help at all to wrap the cell phone or
> computer in aluminum foil? Or to wear some kind of
> "lap vest" - you know like the kind you wear at the
> dentist when having X-rays.?
>
>
>
> >
> > Learn for yourself how this stuff works by using
> the
> > meters and
> > measuring how your body feels.
> > There is much more and we'll get into that later.
> > First thing is get
> > some meters and cut down on exposure.
> >
> > I also believe that that body needs to be
> > regenerated from being
> > overexposed from radiation and chemicals from our
> > food, air, carpet,
> > walls, cars, computers, etc... Our body systems
> are
> > taking a huge hit.
> > I believe the first thing is to have all metal
> > fillings removed by a
> > protocol dentist,
>
> I am lucky in that I have never had any metal
> fillings. However, strangely, I do have very high
> levels of mercury.
>
>
> and then begin a slow and easy
> > detox regimen while
> > rebuilding the body with raw and healthy organic
> > foods.
> >
> > Good luck and feel free to keep asking questions.
> > Andrew
>
>
> Thank you for all your help.
>
>
> >
> > On Feb 12, 2006, at 12:22 AM, christina2005r
> wrote:
> >
> > > --- In [hidden email], Andrew McAfee
> > <amcafeerr@...> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Here is where we need to get more specific.
> What
> > are your symptoms
> > >
> > >
> > > exhaustion, eyestrain, headaches, fatigue, short
> > term memory
> > > problems, difficulty completing/focusing on
> tasks,
> > feeling very
> > > overwhelmed/overloaded, light sensitivity (I set
> > the refresh rate to
> > > the best possible and my computer at wor has a
> > "glare screen" - that
> > > seems to help a little). Also I wear a visor
> with
> > a brim to help with
> > > florescent lights (the visual aspect)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > and
> > >> where do you feel that way?
> > >
> > >
> > > Mostly anywhere I am on a computer. This would
> be
> > at work and home.
> > > Although I feel the same way on friend's
> > computers. Also, I have the
> > > same symptoms around TV, although I have reduced
> > this by not watching
> > > it, and if I'm around people who are; just being
> > very far away from
> > > the TV and not looing at it.
> > >
> > > To some degree, I must just be EMF sensitive in
> > general because
> > > I "usually" don't feel good. I feel alot better
> > when, say, outside in
> > > the woods taking a walk, away from all gadgets.
> > >
> > >
> > >> Do you know what is causing the pain or
> symptoms?
> > >
> > > I am guessing the main culprit is both the
> > > (typical monitor work computer
> > > (laptop)
> > >
> > > I use them combined for >12 hours daily most
> days
> > for work.
> > >
> > > Plus the flourescent lights at work. This seems
> to
> > relaly visually
> > > bother me; I can't wear a visor there, so am
> > guessing htis is more a
> > > visual thing than an "electric" thing...but not
> > sure if there is
> > > anything I can "do" to the flourscent
> > lights...They just get turned
> > > on automatically; and I'm in a cubicle where the
> > lights would also be
> > > supplying other peopls' work areas....
> > >
> > > I am guessing also just general "EMF overlaod"
> > because I use a cell
> > > phone >4 hours daily, plus just I think am
> around
> > alot of "gadgets"
> > > unfortuantely.
> > >
> > >
> > > (like a tower nearby
> > >
> > > none that I know of
> > >
> > >> or your house wiring,
> > >
> > > I don't have any idea. It doesn't seem like it
> is
> > something
> > > specifically WORSE here (I just moved here about
> 6
> > months ago, and
> > > had the same symptoms before.) That isn't to
> say
> > that a change in
> > > wiring couldn't make it BETTER...just that there
> > isn't
> > > anything "terrible" with my house wiring; I feel
> > the same way around
> > > any other house I've been in.
> > >
> > > computer screen,
> > > ***Yes, this seems to be a major problem.
> > >
> > >
> > > cell phones,
> > > *** Very likely; I use mine so much. I dont get
> > eyestrain with it;
> > > but do get headaches/feeling tired/memory
> problem
> > stuff.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > etc.)
> > >> Lessemf.com has books on house wiring.
> > >
> > > Any specific "easy" ones for starters?
> > >
> > > Also, is there any "easy" way to make some kind
> of
> > protective thing
> > > for while I sleep, like WITHOUT having to fix
> > wiring (I rent an
> > > apartment so really can't make too many
> changes).
> > I saw on the
> > > lessemf a "faraday canopy" that is $300. Is that
> > helpful? Is there
> > > any way to make a farday cage for cheaper? (Like
> > one that I could
> > > make a box size, put a blanket on the bottom,
> and
> > sleep in? At least
> > > that way I wouldn't be overloaded with EMF for
> > those 8 hours. I
> > > looked it up online and was confused as to
> > > 1. What material could be used?
> > > 2. What the "grounding" it means. Does that mean
> > if it is on the
> > > ground it is okay?
> > >
> > >
> > > Also, what type of protective personal shielding
> > actually WORKS. I
> > > saw on the less EMF how they have things like a
> > baseball cap, etc -
> > > but then read something else that something has
> to
> > be completely
> > > encircled plus "grounded" (I dont know how to do
> > that) for it to be
> > > effective. So how do you do that as a person to
> be
> > able to go
> > > anywhere? I can't put a solid metal sphere
> around
> > me! I also heard
> > > something like if you put a sliver blanket or
> > aluminum foil (you know
> > > those emergency ones) around you or the walls in
> > your home that
> > > protects you? Is that true?
> > >
> > >
> > > Also, years ago I was given one of those
> > "pendants" from
> > > ToolsForWellness that is supposed to reduce EMF.
> > Is that really
> > > effective? It seems like it MIGHT be a little,
> but
> > may just be that
> > > it made me feel like I was doing SOMETHING about
> > it.
> > >
> > >
> > > What would be the easiest/cheapest way to be
> able
> > to at do
> > > 1. Create a place that I can sleep in with low
> > EMF and go to to
> > > relax/get un overloaded!
> > > 2. Reduce the computer's EMF or shield myself
> > from it.
> > >
> > >
> > >> I have worked with Charles Keen at
> > emfservices.com for having my
> > > house
> > >> diagnosed and for shielding recommendations.
> > >
> > > For some reaon, When I type this into my
> internet
> > explorer, it
> > > automatically closes IE. I am having this
> problem
> > with pages that
> > > have some kind of animation I think; for some
> > resaon my computer is
> > > doing this error with other pages too. Could
> you
> > send me the email
> > > for Charles Keen?
> > >
> > >
> > > Thank you so much for your reply and for such
> good
> > information! I
> > > really appreciate it!
> > >
> > >> Andrew
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Feb 11, 2006, at 6:16 PM, christina2005r
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Wow, thanks for all that infromation!
> > >>>
> > >>> Do you know a website or book that explains
> it?
> > (Meaning practical
> > >>> things I can do about it, not just "oh EMF is
> so
> > harmful".)
> > >>>
> > >>> Also,
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> Then onto Radio, microwave, etc. from TV,
> > Radio, Cell phone
> > > towers,
> > >>>> etc. There is clothing that has silver
> lining,
> > plastic film for
> > >>>> windows, copper paint and plastic sheets for
> > walls, and various
> > >>> other
> > >>>> devices and objects that block or transform
> the
> > energy in some
> > >>> fashion.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Is there any basics on what is the first most
> > effictive thing
> > > that I
> > >>> can get started on? I know there are so many
> > different ones you
> > > could
> > >>> spend thousands of dollars. What would be the
> > "easiest" thing I
> > > could
> > >>> just do right away (and then do more elaborate
> > as I learn more?)
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> --- In [hidden email], Andrew McAfee
> > <amcafeerr@> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I am not an expert and I have to begin the
> > conversation with
> > >>> splitting
> > >>>> the full spectrum up into 2 basic ranges,
> some
> > of the lower end
> > >>> which
> > >>>> can be measured by a gauss meter and some of
> > the upper radio or
> > >>>> microwave spectrum which is measured by an RF
> > meter (radio
> > >>> frequency
> > >>>> meter).
> > >>>> Grounding has more to do with the electrical
> > current running
> > >>> through
> > >>>> your house and body and by allowing the
> > electric current to run
> > > to
> > >>> the
> > >>>> ground so your body won't store it as much.
> > There are many cords
> > >>> that
> > >>>> can attach to the 3rd lower plug of the wall
> > socket that can
> > > allow
> > >>> the
> > >>>> excess electrical current or body voltage to
> > flow away from you.
> > >>> There
> > >>>> has been also problems in some areas with
> > energy running up into
> > >>> the
> > >>>> house from the ground in certain areas so
> this
> > doesn't always
> > > work
> > >>>> well. Buy a voltage meter from Lessemf.com or
> > an electrical store
> > >>> and
> > >>>> have someone help you hook it up and you'll
> see
> > what I mean.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The gauss meter measures basic magnetic
> fields
> > at the lower end
> > > of
> > >>> the
> > >>>> spectrum like those around wires, appliances,
> > ovens, etc. These
> > > are
> > >>>> very difficult to shield against and
> > fortunately diminish within
> > > a
> > >>> few
> > >>>> feet from the source in many cases. Power
> lines
> > outside your
> > > house
> > >>> may
> > >>>> pervade your entire house so you are screwed.
> > You don't want
> > >>> anything
> > >>>> above 2 milligauss as a baseline reading
> > through out your house.
> > >>>> Ideally, 0.00 is what your want are at most,
> > 0.1 mG. There will
> > > be
> > >>>> spikes around bad wiring, dimmer switches
> etc.
> > Most of these can
> > > be
> > >>>> fixed too.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Moving up the spectrum, appliances and radio
> > waves can give off
> > >>> higher
> > >>>> harmonics or frequencies back on the
> electrical
> > wiring and
> > > Stetzer
> > >>>> filters and Quantum harmonizer power strips
> can
> > help reduce that
> > >>>> radiation.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Then onto Radio, microwave, etc. from TV,
> > Radio, Cell phone
> > > towers,
> > >>>> etc. There is clothing that has silver
> lining,
> > plastic film for
> > >>>> windows, copper paint and plastic sheets for
> > walls, and various
> > >>> other
> > >>>> devices and objects that block or transform
> the
> > energy in some
> > >>> fashion.
> > >>>> There is much to learn. Start small and
> > experiment. Get some
> > > meters
> > >>> and
> > >>>> learn for yourself is my advice.
> > >>>> Good luck. There are some great resources on
> > this list, meaning
> > >>> real
> > >>>> professionals and electrosensitives that live
> > with this condition
> > >>> and
> > >>>> have tried 1,000 different things with some
> > success.
> > >>>> I walk with you.
> > >>>> Andrew
> > >>>> On Feb 10, 2006, at 8:19 PM, christina2005r
> > wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> What do you do to reduce EMF? I am trying to
> > research it and am
> > >>> getting
> > >>>>> lost in all the information and don't know
> > where to start.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I dont understand all the "grounding" wires
> > and shields and etc!
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> On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 12:01:40 -0800, Marc Martin
> wrote:
>
> >> I am lucky in that I have never had any metal
> >> fillings. However, strangely, I do have very high
> >> levels of mercury.
>
> Hi,
>
> The same here.
> I never had any fillings at all.
> Still I had quite high mercury levels.
>
> My dowsing rod says I had 18 grams at birth.
> At age 25 I still had 17 grams.
> Right now, age 27, after a year of detoxing a lot
> (lipoic acid, vitamin C in megadoses and other
> stuff), I'm down to 3.4 grams and still going
> strong.
>
> My mother had 60 grams before she got pregnant (from
> me, the oldest son) and right now (after giving
> birth to three kids) she has 20 grams left.
> Where did the 40 grams go?
>
> Please note, these are all values given by a dowsing
> pendulum.
>
> Please also note, 60 grams seems like an amazing
> amount of mercury, but remember that mercury is 20
> times as heavy as water.
> One teaspoon of water is 5 grams, so one teaspoon of
> mercury weighs 100 grams. 60 grams is only 60% of a
> teaspoon of a mercury.
>
> I believe I got my mercury from my mother. During
> pregnancy a *lot* of mercury is dumped into the
> children.
> Quite often, the first (few) child(ren) of a woman
> with a very high mercury burden are born
> dead/miscarriage because too much mercury is dumped
> into the baby.
>
> My dowsing pendulum says I'm detoxing at a speed of
> 120mg mercury per day since I started the optimized
> diet (which I dowsed myself and sure does improve
> detox) and I'm using lipoic acid.
> Beforehand I would detox about 50 mg mercury per day
> using lipoic acid, *without* the special diet.
>
> Saturday I still had 3.7 grams of mercury in my body
> and right now it has dropped to 3.4 grams.
> Of that 1.8 grams is still in my brain.
> It also says that when I drop to near 0, the eSens
> will disappear.
> My intestinal problems will disappear near 1.3 grams
> and my skin allergies will disappear near 1.0 grams.
>
> I hope to have all my mercury gone in a few months.
> So far, my health has improved amazingly and my
> emotional health even more.
> My energy levels have risen considerably and my
> chakra's are functioning way better it says (and I
> can feel that).
> eSens has improved considerably also, but I think
> that *all* mercury has to be removed to be
> successfull.
>
> I use the lipoic acid mercury detox protocol by
> Andrew Cutler.
> http://www.noamalgam.com/
>
> My dowsing pendulum also explained to me that I have
> I'm unable to detox mercury naturally because of the
> genetic make-up.
> It also says that the same genetic make-up applies
> to about 90% of the persons who suffer from e-Sens.
> At age 25 I still had 17 of the 18 grams I had at
> birth.
>
> Please note: So far my dowsing results show quite
> high accuracy levels, but I'm not 100% sure if it's
> the thuth.
> If you want, I could dowse the levels of mercury in
> your body if you give me your name. I can also check
> the genetic aspect.
> If you want I can also give figures on how
> successfull different mercury detox protocols will
> be for you.
> Please note: It's your repsonsability to do with the
> figures what you want. I can't guarantee they are
> correct.
>
> Take care,
>
> Ed,
> the Netherlands
>
>
>

> Is this meter good?
>
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> My experience with this meter is that it is good for
> Magnetic fields,
> OK for electric fields and very poor for
> microwave/RF.
> This can be your Gauss meter.
> andrew
>
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> On Feb 13, 2006, at 7:11 PM, Christina R wrote:
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> Is that enough? Is there one meter that does
> everything?
>
> --- Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> > My experience with this meter is that it is good for
> > Magnetic fields,
> > OK for electric fields and very poor for
> > microwave/RF.
> > This can be your Gauss meter.
> > andrew
> >
> >
> > On Feb 13, 2006, at 7:11 PM, Christina R wrote:
> >
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> --- In [hidden email], Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@...> wrote:
>>
>> Here is where we need to get more specific. What are your symptoms
>
>
> exhaustion, eyestrain, headaches, fatigue, short term memory
> problems, difficulty completing/focusing on tasks, feeling very
> overwhelmed/overloaded, light sensitivity (I set the refresh rate to
> the best possible and my computer at wor has a "glare screen" - that
> seems to help a little). Also I wear a visor with a brim to help with
> florescent lights (the visual aspect)
>
>
>
> and
>> where do you feel that way?
>
>
> Mostly anywhere I am on a computer. This would be at work and home.
> Although I feel the same way on friend's computers. Also, I have the
> same symptoms around TV, although I have reduced this by not watching
> it, and if I'm around people who are; just being very far away from
> the TV and not looing at it.
>
> To some degree, I must just be EMF sensitive in general because
> I "usually" don't feel good. I feel alot better when, say, outside in
> the woods taking a walk, away from all gadgets.
>
>
>> Do you know what is causing the pain or symptoms?
>
> I am guessing the main culprit is both the
> (typical monitor work computer
> (laptop)
>
> I use them combined for >12 hours daily most days for work.
>
> Plus the flourescent lights at work. This seems to relaly visually
> bother me; I can't wear a visor there, so am guessing htis is more a
> visual thing than an "electric" thing...but not sure if there is
> anything I can "do" to the flourscent lights...They just get turned
> on automatically; and I'm in a cubicle where the lights would also be
> supplying other peopls' work areas....
>
> I am guessing also just general "EMF overlaod" because I use a cell
> phone >4 hours daily, plus just I think am around alot of "gadgets"
> unfortuantely.
>
>
> (like a tower nearby
>
> none that I know of
>
>> or your house wiring,
>
> I don't have any idea. It doesn't seem like it is something
> specifically WORSE here (I just moved here about 6 months ago, and
> had the same symptoms before.) That isn't to say that a change in
> wiring couldn't make it BETTER...just that there isn't
> anything "terrible" with my house wiring; I feel the same way around
> any other house I've been in.
>
> computer screen,
> ***Yes, this seems to be a major problem.
>
>
> cell phones,
> *** Very likely; I use mine so much. I dont get eyestrain with it;
> but do get headaches/feeling tired/memory problem stuff.
>
>
>
> etc.)
>> Lessemf.com has books on house wiring.
>
> Any specific "easy" ones for starters?
>
> Also, is there any "easy" way to make some kind of protective thing
> for while I sleep, like WITHOUT having to fix wiring (I rent an
> apartment so really can't make too many changes). I saw on the
> lessemf a "faraday canopy" that is $300. Is that helpful? Is there
> any way to make a farday cage for cheaper? (Like one that I could
> make a box size, put a blanket on the bottom, and sleep in? At least
> that way I wouldn't be overloaded with EMF for those 8 hours. I
> looked it up online and was confused as to
> 1. What material could be used?
> 2. What the "grounding" it means. Does that mean if it is on the
> ground it is okay?
>
>
> Also, what type of protective personal shielding actually WORKS. I
> saw on the less EMF how they have things like a baseball cap, etc -
> but then read something else that something has to be completely
> encircled plus "grounded" (I dont know how to do that) for it to be
> effective. So how do you do that as a person to be able to go
> anywhere? I can't put a solid metal sphere around me! I also heard
> something like if you put a sliver blanket or aluminum foil (you know
> those emergency ones) around you or the walls in your home that
> protects you? Is that true?
>
>
> Also, years ago I was given one of those "pendants" from
> ToolsForWellness that is supposed to reduce EMF. Is that really
> effective? It seems like it MIGHT be a little, but may just be that
> it made me feel like I was doing SOMETHING about it.
>
>
> What would be the easiest/cheapest way to be able to at do
> 1. Create a place that I can sleep in with low EMF and go to to
> relax/get un overloaded!
> 2. Reduce the computer's EMF or shield myself from it.
>
>
>> I have worked with Charles Keen at emfservices.com for having my
> house
>> diagnosed and for shielding recommendations.
>
> For some reaon, When I type this into my internet explorer, it
> automatically closes IE. I am having this problem with pages that
> have some kind of animation I think; for some resaon my computer is
> doing this error with other pages too. Could you send me the email
> for Charles Keen?
>
>
> Thank you so much for your reply and for such good information! I
> really appreciate it!
>
>> Andrew
>>
>>
>> On Feb 11, 2006, at 6:16 PM, christina2005r wrote:
>>
>>> Wow, thanks for all that infromation!
>>>
>>> Do you know a website or book that explains it? (Meaning practical
>>> things I can do about it, not just "oh EMF is so harmful".)
>>>
>>> Also,
>>>
>>>
>>>> Then onto Radio, microwave, etc. from TV, Radio, Cell phone
> towers,
>>>> etc. There is clothing that has silver lining, plastic film for
>>>> windows, copper paint and plastic sheets for walls, and various
>>> other
>>>> devices and objects that block or transform the energy in some
>>> fashion.
>>>
>>>
>>> Is there any basics on what is the first most effictive thing
> that I
>>> can get started on? I know there are so many different ones you
> could
>>> spend thousands of dollars. What would be the "easiest" thing I
> could
>>> just do right away (and then do more elaborate as I learn more?)
>>>
>>>
>>> --- In [hidden email], Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I am not an expert and I have to begin the conversation with
>>> splitting
>>>> the full spectrum up into 2 basic ranges, some of the lower end
>>> which
>>>> can be measured by a gauss meter and some of the upper radio or
>>>> microwave spectrum which is measured by an RF meter (radio
>>> frequency
>>>> meter).
>>>> Grounding has more to do with the electrical current running
>>> through
>>>> your house and body and by allowing the electric current to run
> to
>>> the
>>>> ground so your body won't store it as much. There are many cords
>>> that
>>>> can attach to the 3rd lower plug of the wall socket that can
> allow
>>> the
>>>> excess electrical current or body voltage to flow away from you.
>>> There
>>>> has been also problems in some areas with energy running up into
>>> the
>>>> house from the ground in certain areas so this doesn't always
> work
>>>> well. Buy a voltage meter from Lessemf.com or an electrical store
>>> and
>>>> have someone help you hook it up and you'll see what I mean.
>>>>
>>>> The gauss meter measures basic magnetic fields at the lower end
> of
>>> the
>>>> spectrum like those around wires, appliances, ovens, etc. These
> are
>>>> very difficult to shield against and fortunately diminish within
> a
>>> few
>>>> feet from the source in many cases. Power lines outside your
> house
>>> may
>>>> pervade your entire house so you are screwed. You don't want
>>> anything
>>>> above 2 milligauss as a baseline reading through out your house.
>>>> Ideally, 0.00 is what your want are at most, 0.1 mG. There will
> be
>>>> spikes around bad wiring, dimmer switches etc. Most of these can
> be
>>>> fixed too.
>>>>
>>>> Moving up the spectrum, appliances and radio waves can give off
>>> higher
>>>> harmonics or frequencies back on the electrical wiring and
> Stetzer
>>>> filters and Quantum harmonizer power strips can help reduce that
>>>> radiation.
>>>>
>>>> Then onto Radio, microwave, etc. from TV, Radio, Cell phone
> towers,
>>>> etc. There is clothing that has silver lining, plastic film for
>>>> windows, copper paint and plastic sheets for walls, and various
>>> other
>>>> devices and objects that block or transform the energy in some
>>> fashion.
>>>> There is much to learn. Start small and experiment. Get some
> meters
>>> and
>>>> learn for yourself is my advice.
>>>> Good luck. There are some great resources on this list, meaning
>>> real
>>>> professionals and electrosensitives that live with this condition
>>> and
>>>> have tried 1,000 different things with some success.
>>>> I walk with you.
>>>> Andrew
>>>> On Feb 10, 2006, at 8:19 PM, christina2005r wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What do you do to reduce EMF? I am trying to research it and am
>>> getting
>>>>> lost in all the information and don't know where to start.
>>>>>
>>>>> I dont understand all the "grounding" wires and shields and etc!
>>>>>
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>> My experience with this meter is that it is good for
>> Magnetic fields,
>> OK for electric fields and very poor for
>> microwave/RF.
>> This can be your Gauss meter.
>> andrew
>>
>>
>> On Feb 13, 2006, at 7:11 PM, Christina R wrote:
>>
>>> Is this meter good?
>>>
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> > http://www.toolsforwellness.com/eb007.html#
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> > That's what mine looks like. Sorry it took me a
> while
> > to find the link.
> >
> > Any ideas on whether this is effective?
>
> Ahhh, the Bioelectric Shield. I tried that years
> ago,
> and agree that it was not *nearly* powerful enough
> to
> be useful. Someone tried to convince me that I
> instead
> needed the more expensive model, but I was skeptical
> and never tried it.
>
> I think for recharging it, it is supposed to be
> in direct sunlight -- that is, you cannot have
> it inside of a window.
>
> But I'd say you'd be better off trying something
> else.