EMF

What do you do to reduce EMF? I am trying to research it and am getting
lost in all the information and don't know where to start.

I dont understand all the "grounding" wires and shields and etc!

Start by determining what type of EMF you have:

Magnetic field?
Electric field?
Radiofrequency (microwave)?

Second, determine the source(s) of the field present in your location. (It
is often easier to shield/change the source, rather than shield/change the
area you want to protect).

You will need a meter to accomplish this. This meter will also be useful
after you do your mitigation to make sure you have achieved what you set out
to do.


With this information, you will have the following choices:

1] turn off, discard, or replace high EMF sources
2] increase your distance from high EMF sources
3] use appropriate shielding for any remaining sources
Most electric fields and RF/MW can be shielding with grounded,
conductive materials such as fabrics, paints, and plastics
Magnetic shielding is possible but trickier, since size, shape and
position of the magnetic shieldoing are as important as the selection of the
proper materials.

Since the possible combinations of circumstances are limitless, I cannot
give you more specifics here. But I will be happy to provide further
guidance for any specific situation you may have.

Best regards,

Emil DeToffol
Less EMF Inc. (www.lessemf.com)
tel: +1-518-432-1550
e-mail: [hidden email]

----- Original Message -----
From: "christina2005r" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 8:19 PM
Subject: [eSens] EMF

I am not an expert and I have to begin the conversation with splitting
the full spectrum up into 2 basic ranges, some of the lower end which
can be measured by a gauss meter and some of the upper radio or
microwave spectrum which is measured by an RF meter (radio frequency
meter).
Grounding has more to do with the electrical current running through
your house and body and by allowing the electric current to run to the
ground so your body won't store it as much. There are many cords that
can attach to the 3rd lower plug of the wall socket that can allow the
excess electrical current or body voltage to flow away from you. There
has been also problems in some areas with energy running up into the
house from the ground in certain areas so this doesn't always work
well. Buy a voltage meter from Lessemf.com or an electrical store and
have someone help you hook it up and you'll see what I mean.

The gauss meter measures basic magnetic fields at the lower end of the
spectrum like those around wires, appliances, ovens, etc. These are
very difficult to shield against and fortunately diminish within a few
feet from the source in many cases. Power lines outside your house may
pervade your entire house so you are screwed. You don't want anything
above 2 milligauss as a baseline reading through out your house.
Ideally, 0.00 is what your want are at most, 0.1 mG. There will be
spikes around bad wiring, dimmer switches etc. Most of these can be
fixed too.

Moving up the spectrum, appliances and radio waves can give off higher
harmonics or frequencies back on the electrical wiring and Stetzer
filters and Quantum harmonizer power strips can help reduce that
radiation.

Then onto Radio, microwave, etc. from TV, Radio, Cell phone towers,
etc. There is clothing that has silver lining, plastic film for
windows, copper paint and plastic sheets for walls, and various other
devices and objects that block or transform the energy in some fashion.
There is much to learn. Start small and experiment. Get some meters and
learn for yourself is my advice.
Good luck. There are some great resources on this list, meaning real
professionals and electrosensitives that live with this condition and
have tried 1,000 different things with some success.
I walk with you.
Andrew
On Feb 10, 2006, at 8:19 PM, christina2005r wrote:

Wow, thanks for all that infromation!

Do you know a website or book that explains it? (Meaning practical
things I can do about it, not just "oh EMF is so harmful".)

Also,


> Then onto Radio, microwave, etc. from TV, Radio, Cell phone towers,
> etc. There is clothing that has silver lining, plastic film for
> windows, copper paint and plastic sheets for walls, and various
other
> devices and objects that block or transform the energy in some
fashion.


Is there any basics on what is the first most effictive thing that I
can get started on? I know there are so many different ones you could
spend thousands of dollars. What would be the "easiest" thing I could
just do right away (and then do more elaborate as I learn more?)


--- In [hidden email], Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@...> wrote:
>
> I am not an expert and I have to begin the conversation with
splitting
> the full spectrum up into 2 basic ranges, some of the lower end
which
> can be measured by a gauss meter and some of the upper radio or
> microwave spectrum which is measured by an RF meter (radio
frequency
> meter).
> Grounding has more to do with the electrical current running
through
> your house and body and by allowing the electric current to run to
the
> ground so your body won't store it as much. There are many cords
that
> can attach to the 3rd lower plug of the wall socket that can allow
the
> excess electrical current or body voltage to flow away from you.
There
> has been also problems in some areas with energy running up into
the
> house from the ground in certain areas so this doesn't always work
> well. Buy a voltage meter from Lessemf.com or an electrical store
and
> have someone help you hook it up and you'll see what I mean.
>
> The gauss meter measures basic magnetic fields at the lower end of
the
> spectrum like those around wires, appliances, ovens, etc. These are
> very difficult to shield against and fortunately diminish within a
few
> feet from the source in many cases. Power lines outside your house
may
> pervade your entire house so you are screwed. You don't want
anything
> above 2 milligauss as a baseline reading through out your house.
> Ideally, 0.00 is what your want are at most, 0.1 mG. There will be
> spikes around bad wiring, dimmer switches etc. Most of these can be
> fixed too.
>
> Moving up the spectrum, appliances and radio waves can give off
higher
> harmonics or frequencies back on the electrical wiring and Stetzer
> filters and Quantum harmonizer power strips can help reduce that
> radiation.
>
> Then onto Radio, microwave, etc. from TV, Radio, Cell phone towers,
> etc. There is clothing that has silver lining, plastic film for
> windows, copper paint and plastic sheets for walls, and various
other
> devices and objects that block or transform the energy in some
fashion.
> There is much to learn. Start small and experiment. Get some meters
and
> learn for yourself is my advice.
> Good luck. There are some great resources on this list, meaning
real
> professionals and electrosensitives that live with this condition
and
> have tried 1,000 different things with some success.
> I walk with you.
> Andrew
> On Feb 10, 2006, at 8:19 PM, christina2005r wrote:
>
> > What do you do to reduce EMF? I am trying to research it and am
getting

Here is where we need to get more specific. What are your symptoms and
where do you feel that way?
Do you know what is causing the pain or symptoms? (like a tower nearby
or your house wiring, computer screen, cell phones, etc.)
Lessemf.com has books on house wiring.
I have worked with Charles Keen at emfservices.com for having my house
diagnosed and for shielding recommendations.
Andrew


On Feb 11, 2006, at 6:16 PM, christina2005r wrote:

--- In [hidden email], Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@...> wrote:
>
> Here is where we need to get more specific. What are your symptoms


exhaustion, eyestrain, headaches, fatigue, short term memory
problems, difficulty completing/focusing on tasks, feeling very
overwhelmed/overloaded, light sensitivity (I set the refresh rate to
the best possible and my computer at wor has a "glare screen" - that
seems to help a little). Also I wear a visor with a brim to help with
florescent lights (the visual aspect)



and
> where do you feel that way?


Mostly anywhere I am on a computer. This would be at work and home.
Although I feel the same way on friend's computers. Also, I have the
same symptoms around TV, although I have reduced this by not watching
it, and if I'm around people who are; just being very far away from
the TV and not looing at it.

To some degree, I must just be EMF sensitive in general because
I "usually" don't feel good. I feel alot better when, say, outside in
the woods taking a walk, away from all gadgets.


> Do you know what is causing the pain or symptoms?

I am guessing the main culprit is both the
(typical monitor work computer
(laptop)

I use them combined for >12 hours daily most days for work.

Plus the flourescent lights at work. This seems to relaly visually
bother me; I can't wear a visor there, so am guessing htis is more a
visual thing than an "electric" thing...but not sure if there is
anything I can "do" to the flourscent lights...They just get turned
on automatically; and I'm in a cubicle where the lights would also be
supplying other peopls' work areas....

I am guessing also just general "EMF overlaod" because I use a cell
phone >4 hours daily, plus just I think am around alot of "gadgets"
unfortuantely.


(like a tower nearby

none that I know of

> or your house wiring,

I don't have any idea. It doesn't seem like it is something
specifically WORSE here (I just moved here about 6 months ago, and
had the same symptoms before.) That isn't to say that a change in
wiring couldn't make it BETTER...just that there isn't
anything "terrible" with my house wiring; I feel the same way around
any other house I've been in.

computer screen,
***Yes, this seems to be a major problem.


cell phones,
*** Very likely; I use mine so much. I dont get eyestrain with it;
but do get headaches/feeling tired/memory problem stuff.



etc.)
> Lessemf.com has books on house wiring.

Any specific "easy" ones for starters?

Also, is there any "easy" way to make some kind of protective thing
for while I sleep, like WITHOUT having to fix wiring (I rent an
apartment so really can't make too many changes). I saw on the
lessemf a "faraday canopy" that is $300. Is that helpful? Is there
any way to make a farday cage for cheaper? (Like one that I could
make a box size, put a blanket on the bottom, and sleep in? At least
that way I wouldn't be overloaded with EMF for those 8 hours. I
looked it up online and was confused as to
1. What material could be used?
2. What the "grounding" it means. Does that mean if it is on the
ground it is okay?


Also, what type of protective personal shielding actually WORKS. I
saw on the less EMF how they have things like a baseball cap, etc -
but then read something else that something has to be completely
encircled plus "grounded" (I dont know how to do that) for it to be
effective. So how do you do that as a person to be able to go
anywhere? I can't put a solid metal sphere around me! I also heard
something like if you put a sliver blanket or aluminum foil (you know
those emergency ones) around you or the walls in your home that
protects you? Is that true?


Also, years ago I was given one of those "pendants" from
ToolsForWellness that is supposed to reduce EMF. Is that really
effective? It seems like it MIGHT be a little, but may just be that
it made me feel like I was doing SOMETHING about it.


What would be the easiest/cheapest way to be able to at do
1. Create a place that I can sleep in with low EMF and go to to
relax/get un overloaded!
2. Reduce the computer's EMF or shield myself from it.


> I have worked with Charles Keen at emfservices.com for having my
house
> diagnosed and for shielding recommendations.

For some reaon, When I type this into my internet explorer, it
automatically closes IE. I am having this problem with pages that
have some kind of animation I think; for some resaon my computer is
doing this error with other pages too. Could you send me the email
for Charles Keen?


Thank you so much for your reply and for such good information! I
really appreciate it!
towers,
> >> etc. There is clothing that has silver lining, plastic film for
> >> windows, copper paint and plastic sheets for walls, and various
> > other
> >> devices and objects that block or transform the energy in some
> > fashion.
> >
> >
> > Is there any basics on what is the first most effictive thing
that I
> > can get started on? I know there are so many different ones you
could
> > spend thousands of dollars. What would be the "easiest" thing I
could to
> > the
> >> ground so your body won't store it as much. There are many cords
> > that
> >> can attach to the 3rd lower plug of the wall socket that can
allow
> > the
> >> excess electrical current or body voltage to flow away from you.
> > There
> >> has been also problems in some areas with energy running up into
> > the
> >> house from the ground in certain areas so this doesn't always
work
> >> well. Buy a voltage meter from Lessemf.com or an electrical store
> > and
> >> have someone help you hook it up and you'll see what I mean.
> >>
> >> The gauss meter measures basic magnetic fields at the lower end
of
> > the
> >> spectrum like those around wires, appliances, ovens, etc. These
are
> >> very difficult to shield against and fortunately diminish within
a
> > few
> >> feet from the source in many cases. Power lines outside your
house
> > may
> >> pervade your entire house so you are screwed. You don't want
> > anything
> >> above 2 milligauss as a baseline reading through out your house.
> >> Ideally, 0.00 is what your want are at most, 0.1 mG. There will
be
> >> spikes around bad wiring, dimmer switches etc. Most of these can
be
> >> fixed too.
> >>
> >> Moving up the spectrum, appliances and radio waves can give off
> > higher
> >> harmonics or frequencies back on the electrical wiring and
Stetzer
> >> filters and Quantum harmonizer power strips can help reduce that
> >> radiation.
> >>
> >> Then onto Radio, microwave, etc. from TV, Radio, Cell phone
towers,
> >> etc. There is clothing that has silver lining, plastic film for
> >> windows, copper paint and plastic sheets for walls, and various
> > other
> >> devices and objects that block or transform the energy in some
> > fashion.
> >> There is much to learn. Start small and experiment. Get some
meters

> Also, years ago I was given one of those "pendants" from
> ToolsForWellness that is supposed to reduce EMF. Is that really
> effective?

Which one did you try? (Tools for Wellness sells lots of pendants)

I have tried literally dozens of EMF pendants/protection devices,
and while overall my luck has been pretty bad, there are
a few which have really helped me. So much that I was able to
return to using computers, watch TV, etc. without nearly as
much problems. So you these CAN be helpful, and certainly in a
workplace environment where you can't do much about the florescent
lights and computers.

Of course, what worked for *me* won't necessarily work for *you*, but I can
tell you what worked for me:

Quantum Products stuff (www.QuantumProducts.com or www.natural-stress-reduction.com).
Power strip to plug in the computer. Software which runs on the computer
(they even have a free 15-day download for this so you can see if it
helps). Some people like the stronger/more expensive items that treat
large areas, and I indeed used to use these too, but they don't seem
necessary for me anymore.

Springlife Polarizers (http://choosecra.com/htmlpages/homepage/prodinfo/springlife.html).
These pendants are the most effective portable item I've found, and I get by
with the smaller items (the "Lifeforce Pendant" is getting used the most
right now), although at work a larger item may be needed.

I use both of these product lines together -- by themselves, they seem to
lack total protection. Together, they work a lot better.

There are lots of other devices that people have reported success with here
(Personal Rejuvenizer Pendant, Tachyon stuff, Aulterra sticker, etc.). So,
you may find *something* that works for you.

I combine my use of devices with nutritional supplements and diet to further
strengthen me against EMF (I too can spend 10 hours/day sitting in front
of a computer, so I need all the help I can get!)

Marc

Well said Andrew!

That's about what I wanted to know when I first joined, and wasn't
even sure how to ask. Just jumped in and started reading.

I'm gonna print that for a friend who is clueless about my problems.  
Except that I've got him using magnetic foot insoles w/good results,
and he bought a Q-ray bracelet that he believes was helping heal some
nerve injuries on that arm... so there's hope he'll not think I'm so
far out after a while.

Have a good day all, and welcome all you new folks.

BTW- I sent you an email about publishing Shivani, don't know if you
got it. Sent Tayloka a couple links offline too, so check junk box
maybe.

~ Snoshoe

--- In [hidden email], Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@...> wrote:
>
> I am not an expert and I have to begin the conversation with
splitting
> the full spectrum up into 2 basic ranges, some of the lower end
which
> can be measured by a gauss meter and some of the upper radio or
> microwave spectrum which is measured by an RF meter (radio
frequency
> meter).
> Grounding has more to do with the electrical current running
through
> your house and body and by allowing the electric current to run to
the
> ground so your body won't store it as much. There are many cords
that
> can attach to the 3rd lower plug of the wall socket that can allow
the
> excess electrical current or body voltage to flow away from you.
There
> has been also problems in some areas with energy running up into
the
> house from the ground in certain areas so this doesn't always work
> well. Buy a voltage meter from Lessemf.com or an electrical store
and
> have someone help you hook it up and you'll see what I mean.
>
> The gauss meter measures basic magnetic fields at the lower end of
the
> spectrum like those around wires, appliances, ovens, etc. These are
> very difficult to shield against and fortunately diminish within a
few
> feet from the source in many cases. Power lines outside your house
may
> pervade your entire house so you are screwed. You don't want
anything
> above 2 milligauss as a baseline reading through out your house.
> Ideally, 0.00 is what your want are at most, 0.1 mG. There will be
> spikes around bad wiring, dimmer switches etc. Most of these can be
> fixed too.
>
> Moving up the spectrum, appliances and radio waves can give off
higher
> harmonics or frequencies back on the electrical wiring and Stetzer
> filters and Quantum harmonizer power strips can help reduce that
> radiation.
>
> Then onto Radio, microwave, etc. from TV, Radio, Cell phone towers,
> etc. There is clothing that has silver lining, plastic film for
> windows, copper paint and plastic sheets for walls, and various
other
> devices and objects that block or transform the energy in some
fashion.
> There is much to learn. Start small and experiment. Get some meters
and
> learn for yourself is my advice.
> Good luck. There are some great resources on this list, meaning
real
> professionals and electrosensitives that live with this condition
and
> have tried 1,000 different things with some success.
> I walk with you.
> Andrew

(From christina2005r):

I am guessing the main culprit is both the typical monitor work computer
(laptop). I use them combined for >12 hours daily most days for work. Plus
the fluorescent lights at work. I am guessing also just general "EMF
overload" because I use a cell
phone >4 hours daily, plus just I think am around a lot of "gadgets"
unfortunately.



Ugh .. 12 hours daily on a computer and 4 hours on a cellphone? That sounds
a pretty high exposure to me. It was these sorts of levels that caused the
original "classic" ES problems identified in Sweden in the early 1990's,
where continuous high levels harmed strong healthy people. (Many of the
cases since then show far, far lower exposure levels damaging people whose
immune system has been weakened by major illness).

Something worth bearing in mind - electromagnetic radiation works on the
"inverse square law". If you get twice as close to a source, the radiation
level doesn't just double, it quadruples. So spending days a foot from a
TV/computer monitor or an inch from a mobile phone is going to give vastly
higher exposure than a mast a mile away or the general background levels in
a house. I would think that the Faraday cage shielding at night is going to
give only a small reduction in exposure compared with your daily workplace
exposure.

Symptoms like reaction to fluorescent lights and cellphones, and doing
better when walking in the woods (trees and water are great absorbers of
external radiation), sound like classic ES developing. It is not just the
light from fluorescents, but the particular frequencies they emit, that
affect many ES people; low energy light bulbs can do the same. Personally I
would say, for anyone with or developing ES, one minute on a
cellphone/mobile is too long. Once you have got the symptoms, there seems
to be a huge "hysteresis" effect - you have to go down to exposure levels a
tiny fraction of the original ones before things start getting better.

Also worth noting that cordless (DECT) phones give off high microwave levels
from the base station continually. We have to shield against our next door
neighbour's, as we can easily measure the levels coming through the wall.
Hopefully you don't have one!

Ian



_____

From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
christina2005r
Sent: 12 February 2006 05:22
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [eSens] Re: EMF



--- In [hidden email], Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@...> wrote:
>
> Here is where we need to get more specific. What are your symptoms


exhaustion, eyestrain, headaches, fatigue, short term memory
problems, difficulty completing/focusing on tasks, feeling very
overwhelmed/overloaded, light sensitivity (I set the refresh rate to
the best possible and my computer at wor has a "glare screen" - that
seems to help a little). Also I wear a visor with a brim to help with
florescent lights (the visual aspect)



and
> where do you feel that way?


Mostly anywhere I am on a computer. This would be at work and home.
Although I feel the same way on friend's computers. Also, I have the
same symptoms around TV, although I have reduced this by not watching
it, and if I'm around people who are; just being very far away from
the TV and not looing at it.

To some degree, I must just be EMF sensitive in general because
I "usually" don't feel good. I feel alot better when, say, outside in
the woods taking a walk, away from all gadgets.


> Do you know what is causing the pain or symptoms?

I am guessing the main culprit is both the
(typical monitor work computer
(laptop)

I use them combined for >12 hours daily most days for work.

Plus the flourescent lights at work. This seems to relaly visually
bother me; I can't wear a visor there, so am guessing htis is more a
visual thing than an "electric" thing...but not sure if there is
anything I can "do" to the flourscent lights...They just get turned
on automatically; and I'm in a cubicle where the lights would also be
supplying other peopls' work areas....

I am guessing also just general "EMF overlaod" because I use a cell
phone >4 hours daily, plus just I think am around alot of "gadgets"
unfortuantely.


(like a tower nearby

none that I know of

> or your house wiring,

I don't have any idea. It doesn't seem like it is something
specifically WORSE here (I just moved here about 6 months ago, and
had the same symptoms before.) That isn't to say that a change in
wiring couldn't make it BETTER...just that there isn't
anything "terrible" with my house wiring; I feel the same way around
any other house I've been in.

computer screen,
***Yes, this seems to be a major problem.


cell phones,
*** Very likely; I use mine so much. I dont get eyestrain with it;
but do get headaches/feeling tired/memory problem stuff.



etc.)
> Lessemf.com has books on house wiring.

Any specific "easy" ones for starters?

Also, is there any "easy" way to make some kind of protective thing
for while I sleep, like WITHOUT having to fix wiring (I rent an
apartment so really can't make too many changes). I saw on the
lessemf a "faraday canopy" that is $300. Is that helpful? Is there
any way to make a farday cage for cheaper? (Like one that I could
make a box size, put a blanket on the bottom, and sleep in? At least
that way I wouldn't be overloaded with EMF for those 8 hours. I
looked it up online and was confused as to
1. What material could be used?
2. What the "grounding" it means. Does that mean if it is on the
ground it is okay?


Also, what type of protective personal shielding actually WORKS. I
saw on the less EMF how they have things like a baseball cap, etc -
but then read something else that something has to be completely
encircled plus "grounded" (I dont know how to do that) for it to be
effective. So how do you do that as a person to be able to go
anywhere? I can't put a solid metal sphere around me! I also heard
something like if you put a sliver blanket or aluminum foil (you know
those emergency ones) around you or the walls in your home that
protects you? Is that true?


Also, years ago I was given one of those "pendants" from
ToolsForWellness that is supposed to reduce EMF. Is that really
effective? It seems like it MIGHT be a little, but may just be that
it made me feel like I was doing SOMETHING about it.


What would be the easiest/cheapest way to be able to at do
1. Create a place that I can sleep in with low EMF and go to to
relax/get un overloaded!
2. Reduce the computer's EMF or shield myself from it.


> I have worked with Charles Keen at emfservices.com for having my
house
> diagnosed and for shielding recommendations.

For some reaon, When I type this into my internet explorer, it
automatically closes IE. I am having this problem with pages that
have some kind of animation I think; for some resaon my computer is
doing this error with other pages too. Could you send me the email
for Charles Keen?


Thank you so much for your reply and for such good information! I
really appreciate it!
towers,
> >> etc. There is clothing that has silver lining, plastic film for
> >> windows, copper paint and plastic sheets for walls, and various
> > other
> >> devices and objects that block or transform the energy in some
> > fashion.
> >
> >
> > Is there any basics on what is the first most effictive thing
that I
> > can get started on? I know there are so many different ones you
could
> > spend thousands of dollars. What would be the "easiest" thing I
could to
> > the
> >> ground so your body won't store it as much. There are many cords
> > that
> >> can attach to the 3rd lower plug of the wall socket that can
allow
> > the
> >> excess electrical current or body voltage to flow away from you.
> > There
> >> has been also problems in some areas with energy running up into
> > the
> >> house from the ground in certain areas so this doesn't always
work
> >> well. Buy a voltage meter from Lessemf.com or an electrical store
> > and
> >> have someone help you hook it up and you'll see what I mean.
> >>
> >> The gauss meter measures basic magnetic fields at the lower end
of
> > the
> >> spectrum like those around wires, appliances, ovens, etc. These
are
> >> very difficult to shield against and fortunately diminish within
a
> > few
> >> feet from the source in many cases. Power lines outside your
house
> > may
> >> pervade your entire house so you are screwed. You don't want
> > anything
> >> above 2 milligauss as a baseline reading through out your house.
> >> Ideally, 0.00 is what your want are at most, 0.1 mG. There will
be
> >> spikes around bad wiring, dimmer switches etc. Most of these can
be
> >> fixed too.
> >>
> >> Moving up the spectrum, appliances and radio waves can give off
> > higher
> >> harmonics or frequencies back on the electrical wiring and
Stetzer
> >> filters and Quantum harmonizer power strips can help reduce that
> >> radiation.
> >>
> >> Then onto Radio, microwave, etc. from TV, Radio, Cell phone
towers,
> >> etc. There is clothing that has silver lining, plastic film for
> >> windows, copper paint and plastic sheets for walls, and various
> > other
> >> devices and objects that block or transform the energy in some
> > fashion.
> >> There is much to learn. Start small and experiment. Get some
meters






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I use extension cords to keep the computer as far away as possible. And I have installed shelving to keep the computers off the floor to avoid ground currents. I found a monitor that does not give off any magnetic fields except for the transfomer on the end of the cord which I also keep as far away as possible and off the floor. I have both a glare screen and another grounded screen from lessemf.com. The computer was one of the things that was hurting me the most. Now I can use it for as long as I want with no problem. Had to also get rid of the projection screen TV and invest in smaller tv's. I live in a mobile home and don't know if the aluminum was the problem but I have put up velostat to block the microwaves. It works best if you also put up magnetic material cloth that can be purchased at walmart in the fabric section. It is called metallic cloth and is 51 percent metallic. You ground the cloth and put it up over the velostat. You put it on the walls and ceiling. This has helped me quite a bit. I also have installed stetzer filters. I also have a quantum pro harmonizer. All the things add up and if you do enough things it seems to make a big difference. I do a lot more stuff than this. But this is what I'm thinking of now. Doing the salt/vitamin c regimen that is talked about in the lyme strategies group on yahoo is supposed to help quite a bit with the brain fog if that is also your problem. I've been doing this as well and it helps also. They think it kills bacteria. I don't know what it does but it helps .
----- Original Message -----
From: christina2005r
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 11:22 PM
Subject: [eSens] Re: EMF


--- In [hidden email], Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@...> wrote:
>
> Here is where we need to get more specific. What are your symptoms


exhaustion, eyestrain, headaches, fatigue, short term memory
problems, difficulty completing/focusing on tasks, feeling very
overwhelmed/overloaded, light sensitivity (I set the refresh rate to
the best possible and my computer at wor has a "glare screen" - that
seems to help a little). Also I wear a visor with a brim to help with
florescent lights (the visual aspect)



and
> where do you feel that way?


Mostly anywhere I am on a computer. This would be at work and home.
Although I feel the same way on friend's computers. Also, I have the
same symptoms around TV, although I have reduced this by not watching
it, and if I'm around people who are; just being very far away from
the TV and not looing at it.

To some degree, I must just be EMF sensitive in general because
I "usually" don't feel good. I feel alot better when, say, outside in
the woods taking a walk, away from all gadgets.


> Do you know what is causing the pain or symptoms?

I am guessing the main culprit is both the
(typical monitor work computer
(laptop)

I use them combined for >12 hours daily most days for work.

Plus the flourescent lights at work. This seems to relaly visually
bother me; I can't wear a visor there, so am guessing htis is more a
visual thing than an "electric" thing...but not sure if there is
anything I can "do" to the flourscent lights...They just get turned
on automatically; and I'm in a cubicle where the lights would also be
supplying other peopls' work areas....

I am guessing also just general "EMF overlaod" because I use a cell
phone >4 hours daily, plus just I think am around alot of "gadgets"
unfortuantely.


(like a tower nearby

none that I know of

> or your house wiring,

I don't have any idea. It doesn't seem like it is something
specifically WORSE here (I just moved here about 6 months ago, and
had the same symptoms before.) That isn't to say that a change in
wiring couldn't make it BETTER...just that there isn't
anything "terrible" with my house wiring; I feel the same way around
any other house I've been in.

computer screen,
***Yes, this seems to be a major problem.


cell phones,
*** Very likely; I use mine so much. I dont get eyestrain with it;
but do get headaches/feeling tired/memory problem stuff.



etc.)
> Lessemf.com has books on house wiring.

Any specific "easy" ones for starters?

Also, is there any "easy" way to make some kind of protective thing
for while I sleep, like WITHOUT having to fix wiring (I rent an
apartment so really can't make too many changes). I saw on the
lessemf a "faraday canopy" that is $300. Is that helpful? Is there
any way to make a farday cage for cheaper? (Like one that I could
make a box size, put a blanket on the bottom, and sleep in? At least
that way I wouldn't be overloaded with EMF for those 8 hours. I
looked it up online and was confused as to
1. What material could be used?
2. What the "grounding" it means. Does that mean if it is on the
ground it is okay?


Also, what type of protective personal shielding actually WORKS. I
saw on the less EMF how they have things like a baseball cap, etc -
but then read something else that something has to be completely
encircled plus "grounded" (I dont know how to do that) for it to be
effective. So how do you do that as a person to be able to go
anywhere? I can't put a solid metal sphere around me! I also heard
something like if you put a sliver blanket or aluminum foil (you know
those emergency ones) around you or the walls in your home that
protects you? Is that true?


Also, years ago I was given one of those "pendants" from
ToolsForWellness that is supposed to reduce EMF. Is that really
effective? It seems like it MIGHT be a little, but may just be that
it made me feel like I was doing SOMETHING about it.


What would be the easiest/cheapest way to be able to at do
1. Create a place that I can sleep in with low EMF and go to to
relax/get un overloaded!
2. Reduce the computer's EMF or shield myself from it.


> I have worked with Charles Keen at emfservices.com for having my
house
> diagnosed and for shielding recommendations.

For some reaon, When I type this into my internet explorer, it
automatically closes IE. I am having this problem with pages that
have some kind of animation I think; for some resaon my computer is
doing this error with other pages too. Could you send me the email
for Charles Keen?


Thank you so much for your reply and for such good information! I
really appreciate it!
towers,
> >> etc. There is clothing that has silver lining, plastic film for
> >> windows, copper paint and plastic sheets for walls, and various
> > other
> >> devices and objects that block or transform the energy in some
> > fashion.
> >
> >
> > Is there any basics on what is the first most effictive thing
that I
> > can get started on? I know there are so many different ones you
could
> > spend thousands of dollars. What would be the "easiest" thing I
could to
> > the
> >> ground so your body won't store it as much. There are many cords
> > that
> >> can attach to the 3rd lower plug of the wall socket that can
allow
> > the
> >> excess electrical current or body voltage to flow away from you.
> > There
> >> has been also problems in some areas with energy running up into
> > the
> >> house from the ground in certain areas so this doesn't always
work
> >> well. Buy a voltage meter from Lessemf.com or an electrical store
> > and
> >> have someone help you hook it up and you'll see what I mean.
> >>
> >> The gauss meter measures basic magnetic fields at the lower end
of
> > the
> >> spectrum like those around wires, appliances, ovens, etc. These
are
> >> very difficult to shield against and fortunately diminish within
a
> > few
> >> feet from the source in many cases. Power lines outside your
house
> > may
> >> pervade your entire house so you are screwed. You don't want
> > anything
> >> above 2 milligauss as a baseline reading through out your house.
> >> Ideally, 0.00 is what your want are at most, 0.1 mG. There will
be
> >> spikes around bad wiring, dimmer switches etc. Most of these can
be
> >> fixed too.
> >>
> >> Moving up the spectrum, appliances and radio waves can give off
> > higher
> >> harmonics or frequencies back on the electrical wiring and
Stetzer
> >> filters and Quantum harmonizer power strips can help reduce that
> >> radiation.
> >>
> >> Then onto Radio, microwave, etc. from TV, Radio, Cell phone
towers,
> >> etc. There is clothing that has silver lining, plastic film for
> >> windows, copper paint and plastic sheets for walls, and various
> > other
> >> devices and objects that block or transform the energy in some
> > fashion.
> >> There is much to learn. Start small and experiment. Get some
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Christina,
Here is an email address for Charles Keen
[hidden email]

I have had mixed results with my faraday cage a couple of years ago
when I lived next door to the towers.

It sounds like most of your problems come from over exposure to cell
phones and computer screens. These are easy to remedy. Don't use a cell
phone, or cordless phone; use a land line phone.
Experiment with low radiation screens for your computer and limit your
time on it. Back away as far as you can from it.

Get a gauss meter that reads magnetic fields and get an RF meter than
measures microwave/radio radiation. You don't need to spend more than
$100 to get the basics covered. You need to know if you are working and
sleeping in an environment with more than 2 mG. 0.00 is the goal.

You want as low as possible RF radiation as possible so you need to
know when things are lower and confirm it.

As far as wiring, the gauss meter can tell you quickly if things are
wired well or not. If anything is over 2 mg at hip level, you have a
problem. Get all the appliances like heaters, power strips, fuse boxes,
etc away from you because they will create magnetic fields far in
excess of what is healthy.
Stetzer Microsurge meter
http://www.stetzerelectric.com/
can tell you how much excess radiation and appliance harmonics are
flooding your electrical system. Stetzer Filters and power strips
http://www.quantumproducts.com/catalog/quantum_power.html
can significantly reduce these emissions along the wiring.

As far as radio/microwave protection, for 2 years, I slept with a
fabric wrapped around my head that had silver lining in it and it
helped me tremendously while I slept. I have a shielded hat that I wear
frequently while shopping, in restaurants, etc, whenever I am around
cell phones or wireless internet.

Learn for yourself how this stuff works by using the meters and
measuring how your body feels.
There is much more and we'll get into that later. First thing is get
some meters and cut down on exposure.

I also believe that that body needs to be regenerated from being
overexposed from radiation and chemicals from our food, air, carpet,
walls, cars, computers, etc... Our body systems are taking a huge hit.
I believe the first thing is to have all metal fillings removed by a
protocol dentist, and then begin a slow and easy detox regimen while
rebuilding the body with raw and healthy organic foods.

Good luck and feel free to keep asking questions.
Andrew

On Feb 12, 2006, at 12:22 AM, christina2005r wrote:

--- Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Christina,
> Here is an email address for Charles Keen
> [hidden email]

Thank you.



> I have had mixed results with my faraday cage a
> couple of years ago
> when I lived next door to the towers.


Mixed results? What was badd about it?


>
> It sounds like most of your problems come from over
> exposure to cell
> phones and computer screens. These are easy to
> remedy. Don't use a cell
> phone, or cordless phone; use a land line phone.

Is an internet based broadband phone considered
"landline?"

Is there anything you can do when you have to use cell
phones and can't avoid it? How much does "limiting"
your exposure help? Would it help for me to turn my
phone off as much as possible (I have it on and right
next to me 24/7) I have one of those earphone thing
but never use it (poor sound quality) and also because
I heard that some of them actually make the radiation
worse. Is that true? Is there anything I can do to
the cell phone to make it stop harming me? I guess
the only thing I could think of to reduce cell phone
use would be to get calling cards and go to a pay
phone?

> Experiment with low radiation screens for your
> computer and limit your
> time on it. Back away as far as you can from it.

Back away from it -- oay that was really doable and I
just rearranged my cmoputer:

Before it was
9 inches to edge of keyboard (now 11 - moved
adjustable tray)

plus an additional:

5 inches to computer base (now 11.5 - shoved it back)

plus an additional

3 inches to front of monitor (now 4 inches, moved it
back too)


So, I was 17 inches from the monitor, now am 26.5. Is
that significant. It is almost one an a half times! It
seemed like it actually ehlped alot! Suprisingly!!!


Also, I turned the power settings different - will
this help?

Changed "turn monitor off" to after 1 min
Turn hard disks off to after 3 min
go to standby - after 1 min

(will that help?)

Also would it help to turn off or unplug the printer?
The scanner?



Anything else "easy" to do as far as computers/cell
phones? (Since that is a really big thing for me as
far as amount of time on them.)


What about other electircal things? Like space
heaters, alarm clocks, hair dryer, microwave, cell
phone charger,

TENS unit (is this bad electrically? I use it for pain
and muscle stuff)


>
> Get a gauss meter that reads magnetic fields and get
> an RF meter than
> measures microwave/radio radiation.


Is the "trifield" meter okay to get for these uses???


You don't need http://www.quantumproducts.com/catalog/quantum_power.html

What kind of fabric did you wrap around your head? Can
you use one of those "silver blankets" that are sold
for keeping warm in emergencies? Or aluminum foil? Or
something else easily found in a store?

Shielded hat - does that protect? I read something
that it does (by the people selling it!) and also read
another thing that any of that doesn't help because it
is not "grounded"....any info on that?


Wireless internet?! I didn't realize that was a
problem?! I have that at my house! Yikes.

Also, would it help at all to wrap the cell phone or
computer in aluminum foil? Or to wear some kind of
"lap vest" - you know like the kind you wear at the
dentist when having X-rays.?



I am lucky in that I have never had any metal
fillings. However, strangely, I do have very high
levels of mercury.


and then begin a slow and easy
> detox regimen while
> rebuilding the body with raw and healthy organic
> foods.
>
> Good luck and feel free to keep asking questions.
> Andrew


Thank you for all your help.



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Oh no!!! What is "average"? Is there anything I can
do about it other than just trying to limit it? (It
doesn't seem like there is "much" I can do as far as
limiting it, I could try to do it a little like maybe
cut cell phone use by an hour if I did stuff like use
pay phones, etc. Computer use I don't know what I
could do about it because I really havae to use it for
my job. I do SOME personal stuff (like mostly health
research)....I dont even email people I know "in real
life" hardly ever...so it will be really hard to find
anything to dramatically cut back!


It was these sorts of

So, I think I posted in another post that I was able
to move my computer back so it is about 1.5 times
further away. So how would this affect the radiation?
It wasn't twice as far to make it 25% of original
radiation.....so what would it be?

Also what is really the problem, the "monitror", the
actual box of the computer, the accessories like
keyboard,etc or just ALL of the electral equipment


If you get twice as close to a

Okay, thank for the input on this. It is good to know
because it sounds like I wasn't realzing how big of a
deal the computer and cell phone problem is!!!

Any suggestions about what to do about it? I really
don't know of any way I can reduce my computer time
that dramatically. I suppose if I didn't do ANY
personal stuff on computers ever, I could get it down
from maybe 12 hours to 11?

Cell phone I can PROBABLY cut back on a little (maybe
from 4 to 2-3 hours) if I really work at it.

SO.... what can I do about the computer/cell phone
exposure problem? It seems like it is really being
harmful? Is there something I can put on the computer
to make it stop? On the cell phone?



Yikes. So what do people DO about this....I wish I
could just live in the 18th century with no electric
stuff; but it is really hard to avoid these things.



*****
What would be some easyily implemented things that I
can do to reduce the harm of the computer and the cell
phone?

I was thinking of like things you "do" to the computer
or cell phone - like put aluminum foil on it?
And also things you "do" to yourself - like suggested
to wear some kind of protective stuff???
**********


Once you have got the
Oops, yes, I do. I have instad of a land line, those
vonage telephone thing throught the internet. I have
one corded and one cordless hooked up to it. I only
use it about an hour each day, but can easily change
to using the corded one...and unplug/give up/etc the
other phone. Thank you. I would have never known
that.

>
> Ian
>
>

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> Is an internet based broadband phone considered
> "landline?"

Oooh, you're in new territory here. I suppose that
in a way, if the phone has a cord (not wireless), then
it could be considered a "land line". However, there
may be some other issues here with the digitization of
the signal that may make a broadband phone worse than
an old-fashioned analog phone.

> Is there anything you can do when you have to use cell
> phones and can't avoid it?

Sometimes you can apply something to the phone (e.g,
a special sticker or bead, etc.), or wear a pendant
that would make a cellphone less bothersome. But
you may have to try several options before finding
something satisfactory.

> Would it help for me to turn my
> phone off as much as possible

Yes, it would, because when it's turned on, I believe
it's still occasionally communicating with a cellphone
tower.

> I have one of those earphone thing
> but never use it (poor sound quality) and also because
> I heard that some of them actually make the radiation
> worse. Is that true?

I would base your opinion on which method makes you
feel worse.

> So, I was 17 inches from the monitor, now am 26.5. Is
> that significant. It is almost one an a half times! It
> seemed like it actually ehlped alot! Suprisingly!!!

Yes, that should indeed help. You may also want to
(if possible) move the computer even further away,
and buy longer cords for the keyboard and monitor.
Also, if you have a cathode ray tube monitor, you
may want to experiment with lower resolutions and
lower refresh rates. I find that 800x600 resolution
is easier to tolerate than 1024x768, and also that
75khz refresh is easier to tolerate than 85khz.
If you are using a flat LCD monitor, then I don't
this will help.

> Also, I turned the power settings different - will
> this help?
>
> Changed "turn monitor off" to after 1 min
> Turn hard disks off to after 3 min
> go to standby - after 1 min
>
> (will that help?)

That will help if you're just sitting next to the
monitor and not using it. However, if you are
actually using the computer, then you're going
to have to have it turned on! (you could also
manually put the computer to sleep if you're
not using it)

> Also would it help to turn off or unplug the printer?
> The scanner?

I doubt it, but it might. It's worth a try.

> What about other electircal things? Like space
> heaters, alarm clocks, hair dryer, microwave, cell
> phone charger,

You should be most concerned about things you
spend a lot of time nearby. Like an alarm
clock which your near 8 hours/day. I'd keep
that 3 feet away from you.

> Wireless internet?! I didn't realize that was a
> problem?! I have that at my house! Yikes.

That could be a big problem. You should get
rid of anything wireless in your house. This
won't protect you from your neighbor's wireless
stuff, but it will still help.

Marc

> > Ugh .. 12 hours daily on a computer and 4 hours on a
> > cellphone? That sounds a pretty high exposure to me.
>
> Oh no!!! What is "average"?

I've read stuff that indicates that anyone who spends
more than 2 hours on a computer is asking for trouble.
Of course, there are people like you and me that spend
much more time than this every day.

> Is there anything I can
> do about it other than just trying to limit it?

Heh, well I think we've already given you enough
suggestions to keep you busy for a while... :-)
You're just going to have try some stuff and
see how they work for you. Like I said before,
I was able to significantly increase my computer
tolerance by doing various things (I don't
really need to use a cellphone, so I never
experimented with this)

> I do SOME personal stuff (like mostly health
> research)....

Certainly for health research, you can print
the stuff out and then read the printouts
far from the computer. That will limit
your EMF exposure compared to reading things
onscreen.

> So, I think I posted in another post that I was able
> to move my computer back so it is about 1.5 times
> further away. So how would this affect the radiation?
> It wasn't twice as far to make it 25% of original
> radiation.....so what would it be?

Personally, I don't think you should worry too much
about about the exact amount of radiation you're
being exposed to. Instead, pay attention to how
you *feel*, and how long you can tolerate being
in that environment before having to get away
from it.

> Also what is really the problem, the "monitor", the
> actual box of the computer, the accessories like
> keyboard,etc or just ALL of the electral equipment

For me, my problems were mostly from computer monitors,
computer (CPU) boxes, TV sets, cellphones, and florescent
lights (including the new spiral energy efficient lights).
I don't think you need to concern yourself with *all*
appliances, because most of them you spend very little
time next to, and they don't put out a lot of high
frequencies.

Marc

Is there anyway you can work from home where you can really do some stuff you can't at somebody else's work environment?
----- Original Message -----
From: Christina R
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 1:03 PM
Subject: RE: [eSens] Re: EMF




--- Ian Kemp <[hidden email]> wrote:


Oh no!!! What is "average"? Is there anything I can
do about it other than just trying to limit it? (It
doesn't seem like there is "much" I can do as far as
limiting it, I could try to do it a little like maybe
cut cell phone use by an hour if I did stuff like use
pay phones, etc. Computer use I don't know what I
could do about it because I really havae to use it for
my job. I do SOME personal stuff (like mostly health
research)....I dont even email people I know "in real
life" hardly ever...so it will be really hard to find
anything to dramatically cut back!


It was these sorts of

So, I think I posted in another post that I was able
to move my computer back so it is about 1.5 times
further away. So how would this affect the radiation?
It wasn't twice as far to make it 25% of original
radiation.....so what would it be?

Also what is really the problem, the "monitror", the
actual box of the computer, the accessories like
keyboard,etc or just ALL of the electral equipment


If you get twice as close to a

Okay, thank for the input on this. It is good to know
because it sounds like I wasn't realzing how big of a
deal the computer and cell phone problem is!!!

Any suggestions about what to do about it? I really
don't know of any way I can reduce my computer time
that dramatically. I suppose if I didn't do ANY
personal stuff on computers ever, I could get it down
from maybe 12 hours to 11?

Cell phone I can PROBABLY cut back on a little (maybe
from 4 to 2-3 hours) if I really work at it.

SO.... what can I do about the computer/cell phone
exposure problem? It seems like it is really being
harmful? Is there something I can put on the computer
to make it stop? On the cell phone?



Yikes. So what do people DO about this....I wish I
could just live in the 18th century with no electric
stuff; but it is really hard to avoid these things.



*****
What would be some easyily implemented things that I
can do to reduce the harm of the computer and the cell
phone?

I was thinking of like things you "do" to the computer
or cell phone - like put aluminum foil on it?
And also things you "do" to yourself - like suggested
to wear some kind of protective stuff???
**********


Once you have got the
Oops, yes, I do. I have instad of a land line, those
vonage telephone thing throught the internet. I have
one corded and one cordless hooked up to it. I only
use it about an hour each day, but can easily change
to using the corded one...and unplug/give up/etc the
other phone. Thank you. I would have never known
that.

>
> Ian
>
>

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> I am lucky in that I have never had any metal
> fillings. However, strangely, I do have very high
> levels of mercury.

That is odd. Did your mother have mercury fillings?
Have you eaten a lot of fish? Have you broken a
mercury thermometer? Perhaps you live in an area
which has a lot of mercury contamination
in the local environment? Or perhaps you've
eaten other types of foods that have been
contaminated.

We like to put the blame on dental fillings for
all of our mercury exposure, but there are
certainly lots of other sources, including some
over the counter and prescription medications.

I assume you had some sort of test for mercury
levels (hair? urine? blood?). These tests aren't
known for their accuracy/relevance, as the places
where mercury accumulates in the body are not
places which are ever tested (e.g, thyroid, kidneys,
brain)

Marc

On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 12:01:40 -0800, Marc Martin wrote:

>> I am lucky in that I have never had any metal
>> fillings. However, strangely, I do have very high
>> levels of mercury.

Hi,

The same here.
I never had any fillings at all.
Still I had quite high mercury levels.

My dowsing rod says I had 18 grams at birth.
At age 25 I still had 17 grams.
Right now, age 27, after a year of detoxing a lot (lipoic acid, vitamin C in megadoses and other stuff), I'm down to 3.4 grams and still going strong.

My mother had 60 grams before she got pregnant (from me, the oldest son) and right now (after giving birth to three kids) she has 20 grams left.
Where did the 40 grams go?

Please note, these are all values given by a dowsing pendulum.

Please also note, 60 grams seems like an amazing amount of mercury, but remember that mercury is 20 times as heavy as water.
One teaspoon of water is 5 grams, so one teaspoon of mercury weighs 100 grams. 60 grams is only 60% of a teaspoon of a mercury.

I believe I got my mercury from my mother. During pregnancy a *lot* of mercury is dumped into the children.
Quite often, the first (few) child(ren) of a woman with a very high mercury burden are born dead/miscarriage because too much mercury is dumped into the baby.

My dowsing pendulum says I'm detoxing at a speed of 120mg mercury per day since I started the optimized diet (which I dowsed myself and sure does improve detox) and I'm using lipoic acid.
Beforehand I would detox about 50 mg mercury per day using lipoic acid, *without* the special diet.

Saturday I still had 3.7 grams of mercury in my body and right now it has dropped to 3.4 grams.
Of that 1.8 grams is still in my brain.
It also says that when I drop to near 0, the eSens will disappear.
My intestinal problems will disappear near 1.3 grams and my skin allergies will disappear near 1.0 grams.

I hope to have all my mercury gone in a few months. So far, my health has improved amazingly and my emotional health even more.
My energy levels have risen considerably and my chakra's are functioning way better it says (and I can feel that).
eSens has improved considerably also, but I think that *all* mercury has to be removed to be successfull.

I use the lipoic acid mercury detox protocol by Andrew Cutler.
http://www.noamalgam.com/

My dowsing pendulum also explained to me that I have I'm unable to detox mercury naturally because of the genetic make-up.
It also says that the same genetic make-up applies to about 90% of the persons who suffer from e-Sens. At age 25 I still had 17 of the 18 grams I had at birth.

Please note: So far my dowsing results show quite high accuracy levels, but I'm not 100% sure if it's the thuth.
If you want, I could dowse the levels of mercury in your body if you give me your name. I can also check the genetic aspect.
If you want I can also give figures on how successfull different mercury detox protocols will be for you.
Please note: It's your repsonsability to do with the figures what you want. I can't guarantee they are correct.

Take care,

Ed,
the Netherlands

Hi, Christina,

I do not react to cell phones when they are turned off. Someone here suggested I use a lead lined bag to keep my cell phone in while charging it, as it bothered me while I was charging it. I have not tried that yet. (Instead, I charge my phone in an unused room on the far side of the house.) However, I still plan to try the lead lined bag when I locate one. (They are used to protect camera film.)

Would a lined hat work, like Andrew mentioned he used, for calling on the cell phone??? Would wearing a hat or "apron" type garment made of shielding fabric lining help Christina at work??? Just a question, as I only have ES with cell phone use.

Also, I used to have my computer monitor 6 feet away and used a remote keyboard. I could see the monitor well for most purposes and it was close enough to read, if I manipulated the display settings. I do not have ES symptoms from my computer, so I don't know if that would help you or not; I had this setup due to being bed-bound from illness. I now use a laptop, but now I am only online about an hour or two/day, so I do not have much exposure, anyway.

My best to you (and welcome!),
Diane
Christina R <[hidden email]> wrote:


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> Christina,
> Here is an email address for Charles Keen
> [hidden email]

Thank you.



> I have had mixed results with my faraday cage a
> couple of years ago
> when I lived next door to the towers.


Mixed results? What was badd about it?


>
> It sounds like most of your problems come from over
> exposure to cell
> phones and computer screens. These are easy to
> remedy. Don't use a cell
> phone, or cordless phone; use a land line phone.

Is an internet based broadband phone considered
"landline?"

Is there anything you can do when you have to use cell
phones and can't avoid it? How much does "limiting"
your exposure help? Would it help for me to turn my
phone off as much as possible (I have it on and right
next to me 24/7) I have one of those earphone thing
but never use it (poor sound quality) and also because
I heard that some of them actually make the radiation
worse. Is that true? Is there anything I can do to
the cell phone to make it stop harming me? I guess
the only thing I could think of to reduce cell phone
use would be to get calling cards and go to a pay
phone?

> Experiment with low radiation screens for your
> computer and limit your
> time on it. Back away as far as you can from it.

Back away from it -- oay that was really doable and I
just rearranged my cmoputer:

Before it was
9 inches to edge of keyboard (now 11 - moved
adjustable tray)

plus an additional:

5 inches to computer base (now 11.5 - shoved it back)

plus an additional

3 inches to front of monitor (now 4 inches, moved it
back too)


So, I was 17 inches from the monitor, now am 26.5. Is
that significant. It is almost one an a half times! It
seemed like it actually ehlped alot! Suprisingly!!!


Also, I turned the power settings different - will
this help?

Changed "turn monitor off" to after 1 min
Turn hard disks off to after 3 min
go to standby - after 1 min

(will that help?)

Also would it help to turn off or unplug the printer?
The scanner?



Anything else "easy" to do as far as computers/cell
phones? (Since that is a really big thing for me as
far as amount of time on them.)


What about other electircal things? Like space
heaters, alarm clocks, hair dryer, microwave, cell
phone charger,

TENS unit (is this bad electrically? I use it for pain
and muscle stuff)


>
> Get a gauss meter that reads magnetic fields and get
> an RF meter than
> measures microwave/radio radiation.


Is the "trifield" meter okay to get for these uses???


You don't need http://www.quantumproducts.com/catalog/quantum_power.html

What kind of fabric did you wrap around your head? Can
you use one of those "silver blankets" that are sold
for keeping warm in emergencies? Or aluminum foil? Or
something else easily found in a store?

Shielded hat - does that protect? I read something
that it does (by the people selling it!) and also read
another thing that any of that doesn't help because it
is not "grounded"....any info on that?


Wireless internet?! I didn't realize that was a
problem?! I have that at my house! Yikes.

Also, would it help at all to wrap the cell phone or
computer in aluminum foil? Or to wear some kind of
"lap vest" - you know like the kind you wear at the
dentist when having X-rays.?



I am lucky in that I have never had any metal
fillings. However, strangely, I do have very high
levels of mercury.


and then begin a slow and easy
> detox regimen while
> rebuilding the body with raw and healthy organic
> foods.
>
> Good luck and feel free to keep asking questions.
> Andrew


Thank you for all your help.



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