EMF & full spectrum (or near full) light

> I do react to things, but not quite as badly as you do. Tho,
> when I started with whey powder, I did have to start with only
> one or 2 grains of the powder. Sounds ridiculous, but I had that
> much reaction!

I believe it -- one thing that amused me was my reaction to
Chia seeds (the stuff they use to make Chia pets). The seeds
are about the size of sesame seeds, and are supposed to have
wonderful health benefits. The recommended dosage is a
tablespoon a day. Well, I tried these and kept getting terrible
reactions (hyperactivity, couldn't sleep, panic attacks,
chest pains). Naturally, I kept on reducing the dose.
First a teaspoon, then 1/2 teaspoon, then 1/4 teaspoon.
Then I went to counting individual seeds, 60, 50, 40....
I never really found anything that worked, and I gave up at
about 20 seeds a day... I suppose I could have handled
one seed per day, but I'm not sure what the point of
that would be? Seems like at some point, you're just better
off trying something else.

One of the theories about why people are so hyper-reactive
to stuff is that the protective fatty coating around their
nerves (myelin sheath) is severely degraded (possibly due
to heavy metals, aspartame, soy, etc.), so without this coating
they are just too sensitive to everything. One thing that
can help with this is finding some good healthy fats
to consume -- I think the raw dairy is good for this, and
I've also had good luck with evening primrose oil.

Marc

> No, no, no.
> That is utterly nonsense.
> Electrical currents have nothing to do with static magnetic fields.

Yes, they do.

I rarely post nonsense, but I have been known to make mistakes. Not
this time, though.

Since some on this list seem unlikely to believe me, here is a quote
from NASA's educational website The exploration of the Earth's
Magnetosphere" and a link which backs up my explanation.

"In space, on the Sun and in the Earth's core, electric currents are
the only source of magnetism. We loosely refer to the region of their
influence as their magnetic field, a term which will be further
discussed later." - NASA

Here is that website: http://www-spof.gsfc.nasa.gov/Education/ 
wmfield.html
And another that confirms the earth's magnetism comes from
circulating electrical currents in the core:
http://istp.gsfc.nasa.gov/earthmag/dynamos2.htm

If you don't believe NASA, the canadians basically say the same thing
on their science and technology museum web site... http://
www.sciencetech.technomuses.ca/English/schoolzone/Info_Magnets.cfm

"... the Earth's magnetic field is produced by electric currents. One
theory accounting for the production of these currents is that deep
in the Earth's core, hot molten magma rises, cools and sinks. Then,
the whole process repeats itself. It is thought that within these
rising and falling masses of magma the rotation of the Earth creates
organized patterns of circular electrical currents, called eddies.
The interior of the planet in fact acts like a giant dynamo."

> The earth has a magnetic field of about 45.000 nT (nanoTesla).
> This has always been, even before the dark Middle Ages, when there
> even was
> no currents, no AC and no DC.
> Electricity only exists for the last 200 years.

As stated above, and in my prior post, it IS generated by naturally
circulating DC electrical currents.

As you correctly point out, static magnetic fields vary in buildings
due to steel or other ferrous metal objects which "distort" the
earth's field. Properly installed active DC electrical circuits do
also distort the earths magnetic field slightly when activated, but
generally far less than the structure of a steel building, or lying
on a steel frame bed, for instance.

You are correct that a compass can be used to identify these effects,
if they are of concern.

I think we all agree that AC EMF is a totally different ball of wax,
and is produced by AC currents.

Evie,

I have wondered the same thing, whether some of the EMS sensitivity is a
Rife-type of effect on bugs or toxins. Rife uses harmonic resonance to
over-stimulate and kill bugs, as a musician you should appreciate that!
The same principle as strings on a piano or guitar that will vibrate
sympathetically when you sing a note on any major harmonic with the
string. This could also be stimulating certain toxins.

But if this were the case, then the sensitivity would be only to
specific frequencies. For some people that might be what is happening,
particularly with phone sensitivity. But for others the sensitivity is
to fields and static charge, which does not seem likely to involve
frequency.

Another theory of my own is that the EMF is interfering with the proper
function of the Pineal gland itself. This could happen in some weird
ways as various neurological patterns might be triggered by specific
frequencies. The brain might actually 'learn' to respond to certain
EMFs. Thus the external EMF to turn on or off a number of
semi-autonomic nervous system functions. For example, the fight-flight
response. I just posted a hypothesis about that on my CFS blog
www.kurtsprotocol.blogspot.com <http://www.kurtsprotocol.blogspot.com/>
.

As far as electrolytes, I am using Recup, which is perfectly balanced to
muscle tissue mineral requirements. www.recuperat-ion.com
<http://www.recuperat-ion.com/> . It is from Spain and some people
recover from Fibromyalgia and CFS simply with this electrolyte replacing
drink. There is no other electrolyte drink that is perfectly balanced
like this.

--Kurt



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Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 4:43 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: magnets

Hi Kurt and Charles,

Interesting discussion. I know zip about anything technical here (I
am an artist/muscian type), so it is helpful for me to learn from all
you guys (and ladies) here who know what you are talking about. One
thing I have wondered tho.... Marc and I have been having a discussion
about detoxing and it has occurred to me that even my cell phone
reactions *COULD BE* a type of serious detoxing. (I am not saying they
are, but that I am wondering if this is possible). Could this be so
and, if so, could all ES be a type of detoxing, or could this be
mixed--magnetic causing detoxing and other frequencies causing other
reactions to toxins we already have in our bodies? This is probably a
very stupid question, I know. But I don't expect any of you to play
Beethoven symphonies, either ;) so be kind. lol I just notice that
most of us here have toxin issues. So, is the ES reacting to the toxins
by pulling them out (detoxing) or by magnifying the affects of the
toxins and making them
stronger?

What about this, everybody? Does anyone have an opinion to share?

Kurt, it is also interesting about your electrolyte needs. I, too,
seem to need alot of electrolytes. I really like the fizz tabs by
"Electro-Blast"--they are like alka-seltzers you put into water and are
sweetened with only stevia, which is the only sweetener I use. What
electrolytes do you use?

Diane
"Kurt R." <[hidden email]> wrote:
I don't believe that permanent magnets are in the same class as EMF,
as
there is no electricity involved. Magnets are natural, we have a magnet
in our brains! In the pineal gland. The body is supposed to have
magnetic fields, it uses them. The body also relies on the earth's
magnetic field. A permanent magnet can be very helpful with many
medical conditions.

But I agree with you that the sensitivity to even permanent magnets
could change, I have experienced this. When I am sick for example, my
sensitivity to the magnets changes a bit, but usually I actually need
them even more during that time.

I think this is complicated, the problems occur when an external field
interferes with our own field. Perhaps tolerance will vary according to
the type of illness a person has. Much of this also may relate to ion
channelopathies. I usually take electrolytes every few hours, and that
helps me a great deal.

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For what it's worth I ran across something similar a couple days ago.
Where I can't tell you, but you all are probably use to me saying
that by now. lol

It went a bit different. Something like this: 5am-1pm detox, 1-9pm
doggone if I can recall what they called it, but the time to eat. 9pm-
5pm rebuild (sleep time).

It said if you eat earlier you disrupt that cycle. I've noticed that
most of my life that my body rarely cares to consume anything solid
before 11am. I've also noticed that if I get up in the morning and
do things for a couple hours before taking supplements or anything
but perhaps a drink, I have much more energy through the day, that I
seem to get no other way. It's not easy for me to do.
Something to be said for the farm life of milking the cows and chores
before breakfast. Then you're really ready for it and facing the day.

IF I run across it again, I'll post it.

~ Snoshoe

--- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote:

Marc,
Do you know if the seeds were organic? Maybe it was pesticides, etc.
that were the problem.

I know that makes a huge difference to me, on how I feel when I eat
things, or if there is a reaction.  

~ Snoshoe

--- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote:
>

> I believe it -- one thing that amused me was my reaction to
> Chia seeds (the stuff they use to make Chia pets). The seeds
> are about the size of sesame seeds, and are supposed to have
> wonderful health benefits. The recommended dosage is a
> tablespoon a day. Well, I tried these and kept getting terrible
> reactions (hyperactivity, couldn't sleep, panic attacks,
> chest pains).

I mispoke when I said about a truly "just magnetic field" with the
static magnets. Everything that exists, every molecule, every grain of
sand has an emf frequency that makes it "it".  

Although most likely that field is not a problem. Yes, you are right
that a current could be produced by moving yourself through the field,
or the blood. I almost mentioned that, but didn't.
How that could affect your blood and the type of fields that would be
produced, I don't know. It wasn't something I covered when I was
studying electromagnetism in school.

If you have a Nikken distributor they may have a gadget that comes with
their kit that could help demonstrate that, and the magnetic field
going through the body.

~ Snoshoe

--- In [hidden email], "espaules" <espaules@...> wrote:
>
> > >So when you wear a magnet next to skin what about blood polarity
> heama/metal content will this generate a form of occillating feild ?  
> will it have effect of altering the electron spin in blood corpusles
> etc which must have a major knock on effect. One theory I have is
that
> my Tinittus may be partly due/exacerbated by, a change in blood
> polarity as it passes my audiological nerve which then stimulates the
> nerve and cillia in a foreign way hence hf sounds etc ... ?
>
>
> Paul
>

Electrosensibles should avoid all products from Nikken.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
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----- Original Message -----
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To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 20:55
Subject: [eSens] Re: magnets

> Do you know if the seeds were organic? Maybe it was pesticides, etc.
> that were the problem.

They weren't labelled organic, so I assume they weren't:

http://www.celticseasalt.com/Chia_Seeds_C84.cfm

But yes, I also considered that they may have been contaminated
with something (heavy metals, etc.)

Marc

I am quite pleased with the effects I get from Nikken. The insoles, the
water, the seat cushion, and the back magnet, which I've used to get
rid of earaches and swollen glands, as it stimulates the lymph system.

~ Snoshoe

--- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@...> wrote:

I STRONGLY AGREE with this. Please do not use dual-polarity magnet
products such as Nikken. ONLY north pole polarity against the body is
safe. For healthy people maybe those are fine magnets, but for sick
people, research shows that the south pole is potentially dangerous.
North pole is calming and cleansing, South pole is excitatory and
acidifying.

I have been using North pole magnets with great success for many years.
Here are some good links:

http://www.lyonlegacy.com <http://www.lyonlegacy.com/> - a great
source of north pole magnets for health and healing. I use these.

http://www.azunimags.com <http://www.azunimags.com/> - another great
source, this one endorsed by Dr. Philpott (THE magnet guru).

http://www.garynull.com/Documents/magnets.htm - a FREE online book by
Gary Null about magnets and health. I have the paper version of this,
it is one of the best books on the subject, well-written and now free on
the web.

IF you are REALLY serious about using magnets, I also recommend the book
'Magnet Therapy' by Philpott, this can be purchased from Amazon, or
probably also AZUniMags above.

--Kurt




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Electrosensibles should avoid all products from Nikken.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
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----- Original Message -----
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To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 20:55
Subject: [eSens] Re: magnets


>I mispoke when I said about a truly "just magnetic field" with the
> static magnets. Everything that exists, every molecule, every grain
of
> sand has an emf frequency that makes it "it".
>
> Although most likely that field is not a problem. Yes, you are right
> that a current could be produced by moving yourself through the field,

> or the blood. I almost mentioned that, but didn't.
> How that could affect your blood and the type of fields that would be
> produced, I don't know. It wasn't something I covered when I was
> studying electromagnetism in school.
>
> If you have a Nikken distributor they may have a gadget that comes
with
> their kit that could help demonstrate that, and the magnetic field
> going through the body.
>
> ~ Snoshoe




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Hi,
   
They kinda look like what we call chan here.. not sure see no latrin name.. (chan i think is hyptis) Have intuited toward it at times. We just drinkit in water or in juice// You did mix it with water right?? Gets all guey like frogs-eggs??
   
Funny i know i had a bag of it lying around the store and was just looking for it today.. no luck..
   
   
Love

Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Do you know if the seeds were organic? Maybe it was pesticides, etc.
> that were the problem.

They weren't labelled organic, so I assume they weren't:

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But yes, I also considered that they may have been contaminated
with something (heavy metals, etc.)

Marc


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>They kinda look like what we call chan here.. not sure see no latrin name.. (chan i think is
> hyptis) Have intuited toward it at times. We just drink it in water or in juice// You did mix it
> with water right?? Gets all guey like frogs-eggs??

Yes, they get a clear gel "bubble" around them when left in water.

Interesting seeds, if you can tolerate 'em... :-)

Marc

Thanks for the links Kurt.

I've touched on this before. The pattern in Nikken, and another
brand that alternates in circles (name escapes) are quite good. The
far east is much more familiar with the use of magnets than the west.
Which is where it is from.  

You're right about using the positive pole (on it's own) being
harmful.

However in combination it stimulates circulation. I've used these
products for a decade with nary a complaint, and only good results.

Negative polarity on it's own continually can have it's drawbacks as
well. Just like too much of any good thing.

~ Snoshoe

--- In [hidden email], "Kurt R." <kurt@...> wrote:
>
> I STRONGLY AGREE with this. Please do not use dual-polarity magnet
> products such as Nikken. ONLY north pole polarity against the body
is
> safe. For healthy people maybe those are fine magnets, but for sick
> people, research shows that the south pole is potentially dangerous.
> North pole is calming and cleansing, South pole is excitatory and
> acidifying.
>  
> I have been using North pole magnets with great success for many
years.
> Here are some good links:
>  
> http://www.lyonlegacy.com <http://www.lyonlegacy.com/> - a great
> source of north pole magnets for health and healing. I use these.
>  
> http://www.azunimags.com <http://www.azunimags.com/> - another
great
> source, this one endorsed by Dr. Philpott (THE magnet guru).
>  
> http://www.garynull.com/Documents/magnets.htm - a FREE online book
by
> Gary Null about magnets and health. I have the paper version of
this,
> it is one of the best books on the subject, well-written and now
free on
> the web.
>  
> IF you are REALLY serious about using magnets, I also recommend the
book
> 'Magnet Therapy' by Philpott, this can be purchased from Amazon, or
> probably also AZUniMags above.
>  
> --Kurt

Hey Evie,

We need creative, artistic people too. Where some of the best ideas
end up coming from. :)

Besides, all the brains in the world aren't much good if you can't
think. Lol. I know, I try it every day. :) Today I feel pretty good,
but mind is like a radio station that's fading in and out. :)

At my very worst in the early 90's I would get so foggy, I started
carrying my own address around with me, in case I couldn't remember
where I lived and how to get home. It was that bad. (I had been out
once, not ready to go home, but all of a sudden couldn't remember, so
did that.) It never happened, but it was kinda scary.

For years I have been trying to figure out what I was exposed to that
made me get suddenly so much worse during that time. I'd had 2 large
poorly done fillings put in, that I'm sure contributed, but the
really big downhill had started a few months before that.

It just occured to me in the last couple days, if I can find it in my
records, before I started school again, I think I was required to get
one of those MMR shots. Nothing happened immediately after though,
so I've never connected it quite this way. Now I'm thinking it may
have just taken a little while for the metal effects to really show
up. A few weeks.

Has anyone else noticed something like this?

~ Snoshoe

--- In [hidden email], Evie <evie15422@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Kurt and Charles,
>    
> Interesting discussion. I know zip about anything technical here
(I am an artist/muscian type), so it is helpful for me to learn from
all you guys (and ladies) here who know what you are talking about.  
One thing I have wondered tho.... Marc and I have been having a
discussion about detoxing and it has occurred to me that even my cell
phone reactions *COULD BE* a type of serious detoxing. (I am not
saying they are, but that I am wondering if this is possible). Could
this be so and, if so, could all ES be a type of detoxing, or could
this be mixed--magnetic causing detoxing and other frequencies
causing other reactions to toxins we already have in our bodies?  
This is probably a very stupid question, I know. But I don't expect
any of you to play Beethoven symphonies, either ;) so be kind.  
lol I just notice that most of us here have toxin issues. So, is
the ES reacting to the toxins by pulling them out (detoxing) or by
magnifying the affects of the toxins and making them
> stronger?
>    
> What about this, everybody? Does anyone have an opinion to share?
>    
> Kurt, it is also interesting about your electrolyte needs. I,
too, seem to need alot of electrolytes. I really like the fizz tabs
by "Electro-Blast"--they are like alka-seltzers you put into water
and are sweetened with only stevia, which is the only sweetener I
use. What electrolytes do you use?
>
> Diane

> It just occured to me in the last couple days, if I can find it in my
> records, before I started school again, I think I was required to get
> one of those MMR shots. Nothing happened immediately after though,
> so I've never connected it quite this way. Now I'm thinking it may
> have just taken a little while for the metal effects to really show
> up. A few weeks.
>
> Has anyone else noticed something like this?

I had a bunch of vaccines prior to travelling to Russia and
the Ukraine in the 1990's... I have in the past wondered if
these had anything to do with all this, but there was never
enough concrete proof... at most, all I could say was that
it could have been a contributing factor...

Marc

I use Far Infra Red to detox. Now it is my understanding that the light creates heat which,
through a process called apoptosis, destroys viral, bacterial, and toxins. Chemicals, I have
learned, detox a different way.

When I first began the FIR treatment, I seemed to have had or developed every symptoms
for every vaccine I ever had. Even Ruebella. I had measles.

I was pretty stressed out at the time these were occuring...but later learned this is an
indication of a good detox.

Two cents.

T

--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote:

Hi, Marc,

Sorry I am replying to such an old post. I was gone a few days.

Celiac disease can cause demyelinating of nerves, from what I understand. Probably there are alot of things which can. I think I read that this is related to the tight junction problem (from zonulin excess) that celiacs have. And it is interesting that EMFs are also supposed to cause tight junction opening. So maybe this is an area we could research regarding this. I forget where I read about the celiac disease and demyelinating, but I will keep alert to remember if I see it again.

My feeling was if I got a reaction from something I was using, then just start small and work up. I felt that I was killing off something with just a few grains of the whey powder. My lymphatic system felt clogged up afterwards, for one thing, which I thought was a sign that the reaction I got was just one of getting alot of detox per small amount of product. But perhaps I am wrong. (Since I react this way to extremely small amounts of gluten toxins, I just assumed I reacted the same to all toxins.)

Also as far as fats are concerned.... how do you know that is addressing the demyelination problem, when it is also known that toxins attach to fats and that alone can calm down the symptoms of detoxing if they then recycle the toxin back into your fat reserves?

I reacted terribly to primrose oil when I was on it for several months last year (tho I didn't know it was that that I was reacting to at the time). I mentioned this to my nutritionist and he explained to me that any fats can be the enemy when you are detoxing. I reacted also to cod liver oil. He told me to go as low as I could on even the omega 3s, but especially the 6s and 9s. He said to make sure I was getting enough antioxidants and fiber. He was very concerned that I was recycling toxins. And he said the reaction to the primrose oil was a sign it was causing inflammation in my body--according to him toxins will not leave the body when inflammation is present. I was surprised about all this because I, too, was under the impression that primrose oil in particular was a good thing to use. I did find that getting off of it was very beneficial in my case, tho.

I found also that eating dairy helped me, but he told me to be very careful to not consume so much dairy that it hindered weight loss, as then I am recycling the toxins back into my body fat again. I imagine different things work for different people, but I have to be especially mindful of recycling toxins into fat deposits, as this is my body's preferred destination for toxins right now.

Just sharing what my doc said. You can take it or leave it. lol
Diane

Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I do react to things, but not quite as badly as you do. Tho,
> when I started with whey powder, I did have to start with only
> one or 2 grains of the powder. Sounds ridiculous, but I had that
> much reaction!

I believe it -- one thing that amused me was my reaction to
Chia seeds (the stuff they use to make Chia pets). The seeds
are about the size of sesame seeds, and are supposed to have
wonderful health benefits. The recommended dosage is a
tablespoon a day. Well, I tried these and kept getting terrible
reactions (hyperactivity, couldn't sleep, panic attacks,
chest pains). Naturally, I kept on reducing the dose.
First a teaspoon, then 1/2 teaspoon, then 1/4 teaspoon.
Then I went to counting individual seeds, 60, 50, 40....
I never really found anything that worked, and I gave up at
about 20 seeds a day... I suppose I could have handled
one seed per day, but I'm not sure what the point of
that would be? Seems like at some point, you're just better
off trying something else.

One of the theories about why people are so hyper-reactive
to stuff is that the protective fatty coating around their
nerves (myelin sheath) is severely degraded (possibly due
to heavy metals, aspartame, soy, etc.), so without this coating
they are just too sensitive to everything. One thing that
can help with this is finding some good healthy fats
to consume -- I think the raw dairy is good for this, and
I've also had good luck with evening primrose oil.

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Hi, Kurt,

Thanks for the info. And it is very interesting about harmonics killing bugs! This is a tune I need to learn! lol Thanks also for the electrolyte info.

Diane (aka Evie)

"Kurt R." <[hidden email]> wrote:
Evie,

I have wondered the same thing, whether some of the EMS sensitivity is a
Rife-type of effect on bugs or toxins. Rife uses harmonic resonance to
over-stimulate and kill bugs, as a musician you should appreciate that!
The same principle as strings on a piano or guitar that will vibrate
sympathetically when you sing a note on any major harmonic with the
string. This could also be stimulating certain toxins.

But if this were the case, then the sensitivity would be only to
specific frequencies. For some people that might be what is happening,
particularly with phone sensitivity. But for others the sensitivity is
to fields and static charge, which does not seem likely to involve
frequency.

Another theory of my own is that the EMF is interfering with the proper
function of the Pineal gland itself. This could happen in some weird
ways as various neurological patterns might be triggered by specific
frequencies. The brain might actually 'learn' to respond to certain
EMFs. Thus the external EMF to turn on or off a number of
semi-autonomic nervous system functions. For example, the fight-flight
response. I just posted a hypothesis about that on my CFS blog
www.kurtsprotocol.blogspot.com <http://www.kurtsprotocol.blogspot.com/>
.

As far as electrolytes, I am using Recup, which is perfectly balanced to
muscle tissue mineral requirements. www.recuperat-ion.com
<http://www.recuperat-ion.com/> . It is from Spain and some people
recover from Fibromyalgia and CFS simply with this electrolyte replacing
drink. There is no other electrolyte drink that is perfectly balanced
like this.

--Kurt



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Evie
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 4:43 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: magnets

Hi Kurt and Charles,

Interesting discussion. I know zip about anything technical here (I
am an artist/muscian type), so it is helpful for me to learn from all
you guys (and ladies) here who know what you are talking about. One
thing I have wondered tho.... Marc and I have been having a discussion
about detoxing and it has occurred to me that even my cell phone
reactions *COULD BE* a type of serious detoxing. (I am not saying they
are, but that I am wondering if this is possible). Could this be so
and, if so, could all ES be a type of detoxing, or could this be
mixed--magnetic causing detoxing and other frequencies causing other
reactions to toxins we already have in our bodies? This is probably a
very stupid question, I know. But I don't expect any of you to play
Beethoven symphonies, either ;) so be kind. lol I just notice that
most of us here have toxin issues. So, is the ES reacting to the toxins
by pulling them out (detoxing) or by magnifying the affects of the
toxins and making them
stronger?

What about this, everybody? Does anyone have an opinion to share?

Kurt, it is also interesting about your electrolyte needs. I, too,
seem to need alot of electrolytes. I really like the fizz tabs by
"Electro-Blast"--they are like alka-seltzers you put into water and are
sweetened with only stevia, which is the only sweetener I use. What
electrolytes do you use?

Diane
"Kurt R." <[hidden email]> wrote:
I don't believe that permanent magnets are in the same class as EMF,
as
there is no electricity involved. Magnets are natural, we have a magnet
in our brains! In the pineal gland. The body is supposed to have
magnetic fields, it uses them. The body also relies on the earth's
magnetic field. A permanent magnet can be very helpful with many
medical conditions.

But I agree with you that the sensitivity to even permanent magnets
could change, I have experienced this. When I am sick for example, my
sensitivity to the magnets changes a bit, but usually I actually need
them even more during that time.

I think this is complicated, the problems occur when an external field
interferes with our own field. Perhaps tolerance will vary according to
the type of illness a person has. Much of this also may relate to ion
channelopathies. I usually take electrolytes every few hours, and that
helps me a great deal.

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> My feeling was if I got a reaction from something I was using, then
> just start small and work up.

That would be good advice as long as you were positive that the bad
reaction was a detox reaction, and not a toxic reaction.
Generally, if I find that if my tolerance for a item increases over
time, then it's probably a good thing. If my tolerance decreases
over time, then it's probably a bad thing.

Also you must be able to practically find a way to take a tolerable
dose. If I get a bad reaction to a 1/10 of a capsule of something,
then I'd say it's too risky to experiment with something like that.

> Also as far as fats are concerned.... how do you know that is
> addressing the demyelination problem, when it is also known that toxins
> attach to fats and that alone can calm down the symptoms of detoxing if
> they then recycle the toxin back into your fat reserves?

Well, that's a good question! With the evening primrose oil, I could
see that it was helping my ES symptoms, so that alone made it worth
taking. Also, I tested well for it via EAV testing, and that's
indicative of it being a good thing.

> He told me to go as low as I could on even the omega 3s,
> but especially the 6s and 9s.

Really? Of course I'm sure you are aware that many people
promote taking omega-3's. But of course, on every issue,
you find people giving advice that contradicts someone else.

> He said to make sure I was getting enough antioxidants and fiber.

That's good advice, although I think he should be more
specific -- some items sold as antioxidants and
fiber are probably worthless, while others may be
great.

Marc

Hi, Snoshoe,
   
Thanks for the info. I am the same--never want to eat before 11 am and often go till 1 pm. But then my timing is ALL goofed up. I go to bed around 3 to 4 am and wake 9 or 10 am. I love waking at sunrise (and it always seems like you have so much more time when you wake early), but my body loves going to bed around sunrise. lol I have tried many times to change this. It works for a short time to wake very early and eat early. But then I get sick or a major stress of some sort comes along and I am back to the old schedule of sleeping from 3 or 4am to 9 or 10 am again. So I finally gave up on being a morning person. lol
   
Thanks again,
Diane

snoshoe_2 <[hidden email]> wrote:
For what it's worth I ran across something similar a couple days ago.
Where I can't tell you, but you all are probably use to me saying
that by now. lol

It went a bit different. Something like this: 5am-1pm detox, 1-9pm
doggone if I can recall what they called it, but the time to eat. 9pm-
5pm rebuild (sleep time).

It said if you eat earlier you disrupt that cycle. I've noticed that
most of my life that my body rarely cares to consume anything solid
before 11am. I've also noticed that if I get up in the morning and
do things for a couple hours before taking supplements or anything
but perhaps a drink, I have much more energy through the day, that I
seem to get no other way. It's not easy for me to do.
Something to be said for the farm life of milking the cows and chores
before breakfast. Then you're really ready for it and facing the day.

IF I run across it again, I'll post it.

~ Snoshoe

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