EMF & full spectrum (or near full) light

Thanks, Snoshoe!

We have alot in common! Gees, in the early 90s I was soooo out of it I did get lost if I left home (that is on the days I even could get out of bed to leave home. Most of the time I was so fatigued that I couldn't function at all.) I once was stuck at a mall and couldn't remember my family's phone numbers or how to get home or what the street lights meant! lol I ended up going the wrong direction, meanwhile, cars were all beeping at me (apparently the lights did not mean to "go"! lol) The funny thing was, I traveled an hour or so (mostly in circles, thank goodness) and then my brain all clicked back to normal and I remembered where I was. I had this happen alot back then, but I get it now once in awhile when I have had exposure to toxins. I had a toxic exposure recently and my brain is again a mess. That is why I haven't been answering mail lately. I am not quite here yet. Hope to be very soon. lol

At any rate--had to reread your email to remember what I was writing you about lol.... My mother always claims that I had my shots for entering first grade twice. She said somehow I had them at the school and the doctor's office both and she tried to tell the school I already had the shots but they insisted on giving them to me again. Well, I had been ill since even before that, but I got especially ill afterwards until the age of about 11, when I improved partially for a few years. Then at 16 I had pancreatitis and got very ill again. This time, I recovered briefly and then got worse after starting college. I was never well after that until this past year. My mom was the one who told me she thought the shots affected me. I was too young to remember all that. But, for what it is worth now, it could have been a factor.

Thanks again,
Diane

snoshoe_2 <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hey Evie,

We need creative, artistic people too. Where some of the best ideas
end up coming from. :)

Besides, all the brains in the world aren't much good if you can't
think. Lol. I know, I try it every day. :) Today I feel pretty good,
but mind is like a radio station that's fading in and out. :)

At my very worst in the early 90's I would get so foggy, I started
carrying my own address around with me, in case I couldn't remember
where I lived and how to get home. It was that bad. (I had been out
once, not ready to go home, but all of a sudden couldn't remember, so
did that.) It never happened, but it was kinda scary.

For years I have been trying to figure out what I was exposed to that
made me get suddenly so much worse during that time. I'd had 2 large
poorly done fillings put in, that I'm sure contributed, but the
really big downhill had started a few months before that.

It just occured to me in the last couple days, if I can find it in my
records, before I started school again, I think I was required to get
one of those MMR shots. Nothing happened immediately after though,
so I've never connected it quite this way. Now I'm thinking it may
have just taken a little while for the metal effects to really show
up. A few weeks.

Has anyone else noticed something like this?

~ Snoshoe

--- In [hidden email], Evie <evie15422@...> wrote:
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> Hi Kurt and Charles,
>
> Interesting discussion. I know zip about anything technical here
(I am an artist/muscian type), so it is helpful for me to learn from
all you guys (and ladies) here who know what you are talking about.
One thing I have wondered tho.... Marc and I have been having a
discussion about detoxing and it has occurred to me that even my cell
phone reactions *COULD BE* a type of serious detoxing. (I am not
saying they are, but that I am wondering if this is possible). Could
this be so and, if so, could all ES be a type of detoxing, or could
this be mixed--magnetic causing detoxing and other frequencies
causing other reactions to toxins we already have in our bodies?
This is probably a very stupid question, I know. But I don't expect
any of you to play Beethoven symphonies, either ;) so be kind.
lol I just notice that most of us here have toxin issues. So, is
the ES reacting to the toxins by pulling them out (detoxing) or by
magnifying the affects of the toxins and making them
> stronger?
>
> What about this, everybody? Does anyone have an opinion to share?
>
> Kurt, it is also interesting about your electrolyte needs. I,
too, seem to need alot of electrolytes. I really like the fizz tabs
by "Electro-Blast"--they are like alka-seltzers you put into water
and are sweetened with only stevia, which is the only sweetener I
use. What electrolytes do you use?
>
> Diane






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Hi, Karen!

I looked into ceradim.com. Looks very interesting, but the nearest center is about 4 hours away. Don't think I will be hopping down for a massage any time soon! lol

When I lose the toxins from my fat, I react to it similarly, too--if the toxins are hormones, I react to them with appropriate symptoms; if the toxins are glutens, I get very ill and fatigued..... I don't think I am ever going to lose enough weight to get to the vaccination exposures tho. lol (lets see.... I weighed only about 28 pounds back then....)

Interesting re your experiences with FIR. I would be interested in trying this out if it were closer.
Diane

tayloka_40 <[hidden email]> wrote:
I use Far Infra Red to detox. Now it is my understanding that the light creates heat which,
through a process called apoptosis, destroys viral, bacterial, and toxins. Chemicals, I have
learned, detox a different way.

When I first began the FIR treatment, I seemed to have had or developed every symptoms
for every vaccine I ever had. Even Ruebella. I had measles.

I was pretty stressed out at the time these were occuring...but later learned this is an
indication of a good detox.

Two cents.

T

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Hi again, Marc,
   
I almost always find I do get better if I continue taking something I am reacting to. For instance, with the whey powder, I am now taking 2 heapingtablespoons/day as opposed to the couple grains I could tolerate when I first started it. The only exceptions I can think of were with oils and a number of medical drugs. But I didn't even connect the reaction I was havingto the primrose oil at the time. My nutritionist figured that out. But he was correct--it was causing a great amount of stress and inflammation. Ifelt so much less stressed after I got off of it. But this is like so many things. What works for one person might work oppositely for another. I only wrote my experience because we assume when we hear it helps others that it will work the same for us. But this is not always the case. I think it might depend, also, on what type of toxins you are dealing with. But mymind is too mushy right now to remember if my doc said anything that wouldmake a distinction.
This guy has helped me way more than anyone else I have seen tho, so I pretty much take anything he says without question now. (At first I was skeptical.)  
   
I am not trying to argue with you on any of what you experience either, Marc. When my mind is fuzzy, I am often not very tactful or do not express myself in a clear fashion, always. But I feel that what any of us experience is valid, at least to each of us personally! lol I have seen too many circumstances where I was the exception to the rule to question anybody else's experiences.  
   
I don't hesitate to go below a tenth of a dose of anything, but, then, I am used to almost always taking much less of anything than the "normal" person. Doctors often put me on doses of meds that are extremely low, too. Iwas put on a trial of one-tenth a dose of zoloft for fibromyalgia years ago. I had bad reactions to the zoloft and was only on it for a week.  
   
My doc does promote taking Omega 3s, but just not for me while detoxing. I am not sure if this is a purely personal thing, or something that all who detox should be mindful of, or perhaps, it has also to do with the type of toxins that are being mobilized. When my mind is working again, I will try to find more out about this and repost if I find anything.
   
Actually, my doc was more specific about what antioxidants and fiber to take. It was me who wasn't specific. lol He wanted me to up CoQ10, NAC and isoprenoids (aids glutathione), and tocotrienols. Wanted me to eat more veggies and take psyllium fiber--up to 25 grams/day.
   
Diane
> My feeling was if I got a reaction from something I was using, then
> just start small and work up.

That would be good advice as long as you were positive that the bad
reaction was a detox reaction, and not a toxic reaction.
Generally, if I find that if my tolerance for a item increases over
time, then it's probably a good thing. If my tolerance decreases
over time, then it's probably a bad thing.

Also you must be able to practically find a way to take a tolerable
dose. If I get a bad reaction to a 1/10 of a capsule of something,
then I'd say it's too risky to experiment with something like that.

> Also as far as fats are concerned.... how do you know that is
> addressing the demyelination problem, when it is also known that toxins
> attach to fats and that alone can calm down the symptoms of detoxing if
> they then recycle the toxin back into your fat reserves?

Well, that's a good question! With the evening primrose oil, I could
see that it was helping my ES symptoms, so that alone made it worth
taking. Also, I tested well for it via EAV testing, and that's
indicative of it being a good thing.

> He told me to go as low as I could on even the omega 3s,
> but especially the 6s and 9s.

Really? Of course I'm sure you are aware that many people
promote taking omega-3's. But of course, on every issue,
you find people giving advice that contradicts someone else.

> He said to make sure I was getting enough antioxidants and fiber.

That's good advice, although I think he should be more
specific -- some items sold as antioxidants and
fiber are probably worthless, while others may be
great.

Marc


   
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Hey Freika,

I was in the hardware store today looking at bulbs and I saw they
carry a 50watt incandescent by GE that if 12v, looks like regular,
but not, said something like recreational on the side. They also had
smaller other halogen bulbs that were DC that might be worth looking
at. Don't know what kind of fixtures you had to start with.

~ Snoshoe
--- In [hidden email], "freikanatur" <freikanatur@...> wrote:
>
> I'm trying to reduce EMFs from my living space--I have MCS and
> apparently it often/always co-occurs with EMF sensitivities. I'm an
> artist and need a full spectrum (or near full) light and good &
> bright. I live full-time in an rv & want something that will run on
DC
> power so I can reduce my exposure to EMFs. I'm currently using a
> flourescent shop fixture with full spectrum bulbs--bad news I know-
AC
> powered & flourescent. Can you recommend anything that would give
me
> the light I need that will run on dc power. The lights that came
with
> the RV are very dim, and I'm looking at replacing the bulbs with
> halogen, but not sure if that will give enough light. I could
replace
> the fixtures with dc flourescent fixtures which seem like they
would
> give more light (and a more diffuse/non-directed light) than a
halogen
> bulb, but I'm confused as to whether it's the flourescent fixtures
> that are high emf, or if it's because of the AC power. Are dc
> flourescents safe?? What can anyone recommend?
> Thanks,
> Freika
>

Halogen will make your symptoms worse. It has a higher electromagnetic output than
conventional bulbs.

Karen

--- In [hidden email], "snoshoe_2" <nonengbunny@...> wrote:

This is true ONLY for halogen fixtures which do voltage conversion, such
as low voltage (12V) halogens WHEN OPERATED FROM 120VAC. 12V halogens
run from 12VDC are no different than conventional incandescent lighting
run from 12VDC, and are a good lighting choice for electrosensitive persons.
> Halogen will make your symptoms worse. It has a higher electromagnetic output than
> conventional bulbs.
>