EMF Protection (product survey?)

Dear Folks,

I am new to this forum, thanks for having it! I have purchased the
Beck-Protocol (Blood Electrification), to kill bugs in my body. I am
on week 2 and am getting good results. It's about a 4 month program
to detox. My partner and I also got an heppa air-filter, and will be
getting an air-ozone cleaner, and switched over to organic produce. I
have done cleanses for years as well. I just want to feel healthy,
like I did when I was a kid. It seems like I'm always tired, and it
takes so much energy to do anything. I have committed myself to doing
whatever possible to get back to sparkling a immune system, and
optimum wellness!

My partner thinks EMF products are bogus, because I can't seem to
find a website that explains the product details in good
plain "scientic" language. He think's it's all mumbo-jumbo. Well
some people may think that way about blood electrification (although
there is a patant on it). It's so much easier to swim through the sea
of those products.

But, I am very keen on the final stage... healing, clearing, and
protecting myself from electricity pollution. We have tons of gizmos
in our house (ie: 6 computers, tvs, dvd's, stereos, cell phones,
portable phones, etc). I am noticing many things, as I never was big
on this stuff before. I do appreciate them, as they are all tools.

I have been researching for about a week on EMF Protection. I am
constantly reading everything I can on this forum. I feel rather
frustrated, as there seems to be no product yet, that many people are
in agreement with. The closest I came to finding an 'indirect survey'
has been on the "Quantum Pro". But then, I just read that it's not
that great. I am still curious about the "Stezer", although I can't
seem to find a website.

Is there any offical survey's on products, that several people
partaken in? There is just too many websites, and them some websites
have at least 20 products on there... yikes? I am getting tired, of
just researching :-)) (LOL!)

Oh, someone mentioned www.energpolarit.com (and said they liked
the 'schumann device' from there). This website seems interesting,
although there was no mention of this particular device on their
website. Any thoughts on this?

In the beginning of my search, I was ready to purchase "Biopro Chips"
(as I have several local friends, that swear by them)... perhaps to
make their commission? The other one that caught my eye is EarthCalm.
It's the only website that seems to describe the product details in a
thorough explaination. Both of these products seem to get much
negative response on the forum.

I do appreciate all your input on "devices" that you swear by, as I
just want to get well.

Thank-you,
Sahara


 

You learn fast. Welcome to the list.
Glad you have done cleanses and that you are in the final stages of
recovery.
I have tried most all of the EMF gadgets you mentioned and now only use
the Stetzers and Quantum Power strip Conditioners in addition to window
shielding for outside radiation sources, etc.
Lessemf.com has all these products.
Fixing the bad house wiring was crucial in addition to avoiding the EMR
sources.
My recommendation is to get rid of the cell phones, wireless internet,
cordless phones, etc. I don't know what specifically gives you pain or
negative results to give any more specific advice.

Here is the (I just want to get well) physical recovery I currently
believe in:
Remove all metal from mouth from protocol literate dentist:
http://www.finddentisttoday.com/
Eliminate as many non organic products (no Genetically Modified food,
MSG, pesticides) plastics, chemicals, microwave, radiation from diet
and surroundings.
Rebuild digestive system with probiotics, colostrum, minerals,
vitamins, herb, acupuncture, energetic healing, balance pH, whatever
works for you to prevent more toxins from entering system via
intestines and supporting the bodies natural ability to process the
current load without being overloaded or retoxed.
Detox beginning with colon, then kidney, liver, lymphatic, skin,
nervous system, etc.
Yes, parasites can be a part of the picture and the Beck Protocol can
help that removal. I am using a Rife machine plus herbs and diet to
kill of the parasite/fungus stuff that has taken hold since my body was
broken down. I am getting stronger and my body is now kicking in on its
own.
I currently use Ozone machines, Colloidal Silver, Coconut Oil, Organic
Raw Milk, Butter, Cheese, Sativa Oil (Med. Pot), Krill Oil, Amazon
Herbs, Ziolite, and thousand other items over the years to detox and
rebuild my system. I am happy to say I am getting good results.

There are others that have more info about the electronic gadgets and
I'll sure they'll chip in soon with good info.
be well!
Andrew


On Jun 12, 2006, at 6:13 PM, treja_cat wrote:

Welcome to the list, Sahara!

Not all of the EMF products are bogus, as I've used some of
them to increase my computer tolerance by several orders of
magnitude. But there does not seem to be a good consensus
on what "works for everyone". Probably because there
is no one thing that works for everyone.

I'd say that one of the more frequently used items is indeed
the Stetzer filters:

http://stetzerelectric.com/

This works by redirecting the high frequency noise in your
power lines to the neutral. This does require that the
outlets in your house are wired correctly, which can be
checked with a cheap plug-in tester from lessemf.com .

As for the "mumbo-jumbo" type devices, I've had a personal
obsession with these for the past 6 years, and have literally
tried dozens and spent thousands of dollars on them.
Looking back, I would say that my success rate has been very
low -- that is, many of them appeared to do nothing at all,
or did a little but not nearly enough, while others actually
were quite agitating and made me worse! However, a handful
of these items were really quite helpful, and certainly I would
never have been able to return to my job without them, so
overall I'd have to rate them as a success. From my experience,
I'd say the top ones are:

Quantum Products:
http://natural-stress-reduction.com/

Springlife Polarizers:
http://choosecra.com/htmlpages/homepage/prodinfo/springlife.html

Other items definitely worth checking out (in that they definitely
do *something*, although I wasn't comfortable with them):

Electromagnetic Rectifier:
http://toolsforwellness.com/75103.html

Earthcalm:
http://earthcalm.com/

Radar Card:
http://radar3.com/

Personal Rejuvenizers:
http://lighthealing.com/

Green 8:
http://green8usa.com/

Many of the above items have a money-back guarantee, so you probably
could try them all out and decide which (if any) work for you. If
you need a reasonable scientific explanation for your partner, well,
I wouldn't bother, because I haven't found one, and I've been using
these things for 6 years! But I'd say that these are all "better
than average" products (and non-bogus), although admittedly I have
*not* tried everything (e.g., I have not tried the BioPro items).

But for the past several years, after trying dozens of items, I've
just been using some sort of combination of Quantum Products and
Springlife Polarizers. These are not complete solutions, but
when combined with good food choices and supplements, they can
get me through the 40-hour work week, where I'm exposed to it all...

Marc

Welcome Treja cat.  

Charles, and some other people have lists of all kinds of meters that
measure emf fields of all sorts. The fact they are available and used
world wide, and in the electrical industry ought to turn your
significant other into a believer pronto.

A large reason that some people like one product, and other not, is
because we are individuals. I'm very allergic to cats, other people
want them up in their face and aren't bothered a bit. Same with
different frequencies. That's why the some products will vary too,
the frequencies ranges they work with.

I've not been able to try the more expensive items, but I do like the
diodes I got from energipolariti, although I don't recall anything
about the Schumann resonance there either.

The metallized fabrics like the silver one from Walmart, people here
have found useful, and myself as well. (Thanks Evie, isn't it you
that swaths up in the stuff to watch TV? Whoever it was, inspired to
try it, and I like it.) It's also good for reflecting your bodies
infrared heat back to it. Feels wonderful.

Hey all, I've been for months gonna post, (what's new, lol), when the
fellow that had the newspaper interview over in ?Scotland?, the
writer called our condition "rare". I knew it wasn't rare any
longer, and did some searching.

Now I don't have my paper I wrote it on, but off the top of my head,
here in the US 1% (meaning the people they know about, and I'm sure
it's at least triple), have EMF sensitivity. The same rate as
epilepsy, and somehow diabetes fit in there. So it's not rare, just
unknown, mainly because of media blackout.

It's 14% or better in Austraila. I think it was 18% of Germany, and
Sweden, the UK, and ?Finland? were up there. Someone was over 20%.  
These are more than epidemic proportions. For physicians in those
countries to say it is in the head, shows incredible ignornance, here
I can only say it is lack of desire to learn and help their patients
and mediablackout.

By the way, what it boils down to is plainly known as radiation
sickness. :|

~ Snoshoe

--- In [hidden email], "treja_cat" <sahara_exodus@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Dear Folks,
>
> I am new to this forum, thanks for having it! I have purchased the
> Beck-Protocol (Blood Electrification), to kill bugs in my body. I
am
> on week 2 and am getting good results. It's about a 4 month program
> to detox. My partner and I also got an heppa air-filter, and will
be
> getting an air-ozone cleaner, and switched over to organic produce.
I
> have done cleanses for years as well. I just want to feel healthy,
> like I did when I was a kid. It seems like I'm always tired, and it
> takes so much energy to do anything. I have committed myself to
doing
> whatever possible to get back to sparkling a immune system, and
> optimum wellness!
>
> My partner thinks EMF products are bogus, because I can't seem to
> find a website that explains the product details in good
> plain "scientic" language. He think's it's all mumbo-jumbo. Well
> some people may think that way about blood electrification
(although
> there is a patant on it). It's so much easier to swim through the
sea
> of those products.
>
> But, I am very keen on the final stage... healing, clearing, and
> protecting myself from electricity pollution. We have tons of
gizmos
> in our house (ie: 6 computers, tvs, dvd's, stereos, cell phones,
> portable phones, etc). I am noticing many things, as I never was
big
> on this stuff before. I do appreciate them, as they are all tools.
>
> I have been researching for about a week on EMF Protection. I am
> constantly reading everything I can on this forum. I feel rather
> frustrated, as there seems to be no product yet, that many people
are
> in agreement with. The closest I came to finding an 'indirect
survey'
> has been on the "Quantum Pro". But then, I just read that it's not
> that great. I am still curious about the "Stezer", although I can't
> seem to find a website.
>
> Is there any offical survey's on products, that several people
> partaken in? There is just too many websites, and them some
websites
> have at least 20 products on there... yikes? I am getting tired, of
> just researching :-)) (LOL!)
>
> Oh, someone mentioned www.energpolarit.com (and said they liked
> the 'schumann device' from there). This website seems interesting,
> although there was no mention of this particular device on their
> website. Any thoughts on this?
>
> In the beginning of my search, I was ready to purchase "Biopro
Chips"
> (as I have several local friends, that swear by them)... perhaps to
> make their commission? The other one that caught my eye is
EarthCalm.
> It's the only website that seems to describe the product details in
a
> thorough explaination. Both of these products seem to get much
> negative response on the forum.
>
> I do appreciate all your input on "devices" that you swear by, as I
> just want to get well.
>
> Thank-you,
> Sahara
>

A little p.s. I can't say for all countries, but a valid reason for
some of the ambiguity is the laws of marketing. What it can do, and
the results it can give, can't necessarily be claimed, or explained and
remain legal.

I've practiced natural health, and herbalism most of my life, but I
don't say I practice alternative "medicine" like some do. I think even
alternative "health" may come under fire eventually. People are taken
to court and dragged over the coals all the time because they're
practicing "medicine" without a license. Never mind that in my book
most of western medicine is actually poisoning rather than healing...

The more expensive items by the way, should have a money back
guarantee, so if it doesn't work for you, you should like most anything
you buy, be able to return it.

~ Snoshoe


--- In [hidden email], "treja_cat" <sahara_exodus@...> wrote:
>

>
> My partner thinks EMF products are bogus, because I can't seem to
> find a website that explains the product details in good
> plain "scientic" language. He think's it's all mumbo-jumbo. Well
> some people may think that way about blood electrification (although
> there is a patant on it).

> A little p.s. I can't say for all countries, but a valid reason for
> some of the ambiguity is the laws of marketing. What it can do, and
> the results it can give, can't necessarily be claimed, or explained and
> remain legal.

That's a good point. One of the sites that sold Springlife Polarizers
(Bioharmonics.com) dissappeared last fall, and I see from the
Government's
FDA website that they were sent a "cease & desist" notice about the
medical claims made about their Harmonizer product.

They had previously "dumbed down" their website because of their
fear that the government was going to shut them down, but I guess
they didn't do a good enough job.

Marc

Nice to hear your positive journey to recovery, but becareful Sahara, there
are many more deserts to walk through, those tools that you mention you want
to have a clear out asap I cannot add any thing to my so called domestic
load such as products that use electricity, wether they are prophalactics or
whatever for me that would be going in the wrong direction. A simple act such as
turning of your elec at night is a very good move.

Its seems that most people are blissfully unaware of the ever increasing
reliance on wireless technologies, its unbelievable whats now available on the
domestic market and in the public domain worryingly there is no one
person/organisation that can give you a definative list or track it all, I could go and
buy 50 wifi devices and set them up in my home today that cant be right
knowing waht we know !! its a microwave giant snowball outa control there seems
little we can do about this so streamline your house and lighten your load.
Just like you sensibly wish to cleanse your body by dietry control from within,
do the same to your house.

best wishes - Paul



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hello Andrew,

although I use Colloidal Silver myself, I must place a warning.

Elektrosensible people should not take too much if it, because it may worsen
the electrosensibility.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
checked by Norton Antivirus




----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew McAfee" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 06:02
Subject: Re: [eSens] EMF Protection (product survey?)

Hi Marc,

Thank you for taking the time to be so thorough, in your amazing eSens
product experiences!! I can't thank you enough :-))

I think you're right, electric radiation is a lot more complicated then
many things (ie: diet). So with that in mind, it seems that several
products to protect from various angles/situations, would be most
helpful. I never thought of it, until you put it that way. It makes more
sense, when researching the different types of devices out there.

Cheers,
Sahara [:)]

....................................

Re: [eSens] EMF Protection (product survey?)
Welcome to the list, Sahara!

Not all of the EMF products are bogus, as I've used some of
them to increase my computer tolerance by several orders of
magnitude. But there does not seem to be a good consensus
on what "works for everyone". Probably because there
is no one thing that works for everyone.

I'd say that one of the more frequently used items is indeed
the Stetzer filters:

http://stetzerelectric.com/ <http://stetzerelectric.com/>

This works by redirecting the high frequency noise in your
power lines to the neutral. This does require that the
outlets in your house are wired correctly, which can be
checked with a cheap plug-in tester from lessemf.com .

As for the "mumbo-jumbo" type devices, I've had a personal
obsession with these for the past 6 years, and have literally
tried dozens and spent thousands of dollars on them.
Looking back, I would say that my success rate has been very
low -- that is, many of them appeared to do nothing at all,
or did a little but not nearly enough, while others actually
were quite agitating and made me worse! However, a handful
of these items were really quite helpful, and certainly I would
never have been able to return to my job without them, so
overall I'd have to rate them as a success. From my experience,
I'd say the top ones are:

Quantum Products:
http://natural-stress-reduction.com/
<http://natural-stress-reduction.com/>

Springlife Polarizers:
http://choosecra.com/htmlpages/homepage/prodinfo/springlife.html
<http://choosecra.com/htmlpages/homepage/prodinfo/springlife.html>

Other items definitely worth checking out (in that they definitely
do *something*, although I wasn't comfortable with them):

Electromagnetic Rectifier:
http://toolsforwellness.com/75103.html
<http://toolsforwellness.com/75103.html>

Earthcalm:
http://earthcalm.com/ <http://earthcalm.com/>

Radar Card:
http://radar3.com/ <http://radar3.com/>

Personal Rejuvenizers:
http://lighthealing.com/ <http://lighthealing.com/>

Green 8:
http://green8usa.com/ <http://green8usa.com/>

Many of the above items have a money-back guarantee, so you probably
could try them all out and decide which (if any) work for you. If
you need a reasonable scientific explanation for your partner, well,
I wouldn't bother, because I haven't found one, and I've been using
these things for 6 years! But I'd say that these are all "better
than average" products (and non-bogus), although admittedly I have
*not* tried everything (e.g., I have not tried the BioPro items).

But for the past several years, after trying dozens of items, I've
just been using some sort of combination of Quantum Products and
Springlife Polarizers. These are not complete solutions, but
when combined with good food choices and supplements, they can
get me through the 40-hour work week, where I'm exposed to it all...

Marc



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi Andrew,

Thanks for your awesome advice, I appreciate your sincere honesty, and
value all your advice. It sounds like you are doing quite the 'thorough
job' of keeping yourself well! I'm also curious as to your experience
with the Rife machine.

As for the Beck Protocol, I've been using the Blood Electrication tool
(kills bugs), the Magnetic Pulser (good for EMF... I love this tool by
the way, I got it at: http://www.toolsforhealing.com
<http://www.toolsforhealing.com> - by Sota Instruments). I also drink
collidal silver daily, and am awaiting three other machines. One of them
makes Ozone Water, Ozone Airpurifier. And also the BioTuner (by Beck). I
think the BioTuner will be good for EMF healing, as well as his Magnetic
Pulser. The BioTuner helps heal emotional/mental issues with 'brain
electrication'. He states that it's good for all health too, because
most health issues begin with "stress", and this machine eleviates
stress... so we'll see.

As for EMF Protection Machines (just for EMF purposes only), it seems
that 'most' people are in agreement with the Quantum Products. So this
is something I will seriously look into. I'm also wondering about
chips/stickers... that stick on to everything (ie: BioPro). There seems
to be many companies that sell these stickers (button type product).
It's hard to believe that it can work, and the money they want for just
one sticker!! But if it works... I'm keen. Do you recommend any of
these?

Cheers,
Sahara [:)]

P.S. I'm a BIG FAN of coconut products (oil, and milk, etc). It tastes
great, and it's so good for you. That's great to hear that you like it
:-)

.......................................


Re: [eSens] EMF Protection (product survey?)
You learn fast. Welcome to the list.
Glad you have done cleanses and that you are in the final stages of
recovery.
I have tried most all of the EMF gadgets you mentioned and now only use
the Stetzers and Quantum Power strip Conditioners in addition to window
shielding for outside radiation sources, etc.
Lessemf.com has all these products.
Fixing the bad house wiring was crucial in addition to avoiding the EMR
sources.
My recommendation is to get rid of the cell phones, wireless internet,
cordless phones, etc. I don't know what specifically gives you pain or
negative results to give any more specific advice.

Here is the (I just want to get well) physical recovery I currently
believe in:
Remove all metal from mouth from protocol literate dentist:
http://www.finddentisttoday.com/ <http://www.finddentisttoday.com/>
Eliminate as many non organic products (no Genetically Modified food,
MSG, pesticides) plastics, chemicals, microwave, radiation from diet
and surroundings.
Rebuild digestive system with probiotics, colostrum, minerals,
vitamins, herb, acupuncture, energetic healing, balance pH, whatever
works for you to prevent more toxins from entering system via
intestines and supporting the bodies natural ability to process the
current load without being overloaded or retoxed.
Detox beginning with colon, then kidney, liver, lymphatic, skin,
nervous system, etc.
Yes, parasites can be a part of the picture and the Beck Protocol can
help that removal. I am using a Rife machine plus herbs and diet to
kill of the parasite/fungus stuff that has taken hold since my body was
broken down. I am getting stronger and my body is now kicking in on its
own.
I currently use Ozone machines, Colloidal Silver, Coconut Oil, Organic
Raw Milk, Butter, Cheese, Sativa Oil (Med. Pot), Krill Oil, Amazon
Herbs, Ziolite, and thousand other items over the years to detox and
rebuild my system. I am happy to say I am getting good results.

There are others that have more info about the electronic gadgets and
I'll sure they'll chip in soon with good info.
be well!
Andrew






[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi Snoshoe,

Thanks for being so thorough in your thoughts here, muchly appreciated!
These lists that you mention, seem intruging! How do I find out about
it? That appears a good place to start, especially to convince my
partner... to just do a reading with a meter.... that's scientific
enough :-)

Yes, that makes sense about people vibrating at various frequencies, so
then be affected by products so differently. It's just a little
frustrating, so any advice is helpful.

I don't know much about the EMF 'Fabric' protection, so getting a good
testimonial on that, is the first I've read - thanks.

I do think you're right, that there are many people suffering from this
health concern, but just don't realize it. We are told to buy as much
tech stuff as possible, and that it is 'safe and ok'. Notice everyone
has a coffee in their hand and grabbing for the painkillers?! Hmmm,
could mean something!

Yes, it's so unfortunate that the legal part of alternative health is so
regulated.

Cheers,
TrejaCat

.....................................


--- In [hidden email], "snoshoe_2" <nonengbunny@...> wrote:
A little p.s. I can't say for all countries, but a valid reason for
some of the ambiguity is the laws of marketing. What it can do, and
the results it can give, can't necessarily be claimed, or explained and
remain legal.

I've practiced natural health, and herbalism most of my life, but I
don't say I practice alternative "medicine" like some do. I think even
alternative "health" may come under fire eventually. People are taken
to court and dragged over the coals all the time because they're
practicing "medicine" without a license. Never mind that in my book
most of western medicine is actually poisoning rather than healing...

The more expensive items by the way, should have a money back
guarantee, so if it doesn't work for you, you should like most anything
you buy, be able to return it.

~ Snoshoe

Hi Paul,

Thank you for your kind thoughts on this matter!

My partner is the techno-geek. He likes two of everything. Probably
because he's in the film industry, and really enjoys his gadgets. So I
can't really tell him to drop his favourite hobby (computer tinkering
being a big one).... as it brings him a lot of joy.

I'm searching for ways to stay healthy, amongst all the technology
around me. Turning everything off at night, is great advice - thanks :-)

Cheers
Sahara

.......................


--- In [hidden email], paulpjc@... wrote:
>
> Nice to hear your positive journey to recovery, but becareful Sahara,
there
> are many more deserts to walk through, those tools that you mention
you want
> to have a clear out asap I cannot add any thing to my so called
domestic
> load such as products that use electricity, wether they are
prophalactics or
> whatever for me that would be going in the wrong direction. A simple
act such as
> turning of your elec at night is a very good move.
>
> Its seems that most people are blissfully unaware of the ever
increasing
> reliance on wireless technologies, its unbelievable whats now
available on the
> domestic market and in the public domain worryingly there is no one
> person/organisation that can give you a definative list or track it
all, I could go and
> buy 50 wifi devices and set them up in my home today that cant be
right
> knowing waht we know !! its a microwave giant snowball outa control
there seems
> little we can do about this so streamline your house and lighten your
load.
> Just like you sensibly wish to cleanse your body by dietry control
from within,
> do the same to your house.
>
> best wishes - Paul

Hi Charles,

Yes, I'm experiementing with how my body reacts to 'Colloidal
Silver'. I've used it for several years, at very small doses. Just
recently I've increased it to larger fresh doses. So far, it makes me
feel good. But any sign of it not working, I will certainly take good
care.

Thanks for the tip!

Cheers,
Sahara
.........................


--- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Andrew,
>
> although I use Colloidal Silver myself, I must place a warning.
>
> Elektrosensible people should not take too much if it, because it
may worsen
> the electrosensibility.
>
> Greetings,
> Charles Claessens
> member Verband Baubiologie
> www.milieuziektes.nl
> www.milieuziektes.be
> www.hetbitje.nl
> checked by Norton Antivirus

...........................

 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andrew McAfee" <amcafeerr@...>
> To: <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 06:02
> Subject: Re: [eSens] EMF Protection (product survey?)
>
>
> > You learn fast. Welcome to the list.
> > Glad you have done cleanses and that you are in the final stages
of
> > recovery.
> > I have tried most all of the EMF gadgets you mentioned and now
only use
> > the Stetzers and Quantum Power strip Conditioners in addition to
window
> > shielding for outside radiation sources, etc.
> > Lessemf.com has all these products.
> > Fixing the bad house wiring was crucial in addition to avoiding
the EMR
> > sources.
> > My recommendation is to get rid of the cell phones, wireless
internet,
> > cordless phones, etc. I don't know what specifically gives you
pain or
> > negative results to give any more specific advice.
> >
> > Here is the (I just want to get well) physical recovery I
currently
> > believe in:
> > Remove all metal from mouth from protocol literate dentist:
> > http://www.finddentisttoday.com/
> > Eliminate as many non organic products (no Genetically Modified
food,
> > MSG, pesticides) plastics, chemicals, microwave, radiation from
diet
> > and surroundings.
> > Rebuild digestive system with probiotics, colostrum, minerals,
> > vitamins, herb, acupuncture, energetic healing, balance pH,
whatever
> > works for you to prevent more toxins from entering system via
> > intestines and supporting the bodies natural ability to process
the
> > current load without being overloaded or retoxed.
> > Detox beginning with colon, then kidney, liver, lymphatic, skin,
> > nervous system, etc.
> > Yes, parasites can be a part of the picture and the Beck Protocol
can
> > help that removal. I am using a Rife machine plus herbs and diet
to
> > kill of the parasite/fungus stuff that has taken hold since my
body was
> > broken down. I am getting stronger and my body is now kicking in
on its
> > own.
> > I currently use Ozone machines, Colloidal Silver, Coconut Oil,
Organic
> > Raw Milk, Butter, Cheese, Sativa Oil (Med. Pot), Krill Oil, Amazon
> > Herbs, Ziolite, and thousand other items over the years to detox
and
> > rebuild my system. I am happy to say I am getting good results.
> >
> > There are others that have more info about the electronic gadgets
and the
> >> Beck-Protocol (Blood Electrification), to kill bugs in my body.
I am
> >> on week 2 and am getting good results. It's about a 4 month
program
> >> to detox. My partner and I also got an heppa air-filter, and
will be
> >> getting an air-ozone cleaner, and switched over to organic
produce. I
> >> have done cleanses for years as well. I just want to feel
healthy,
> >> like I did when I was a kid. It seems like I'm always tired, and
it
> >> takes so much energy to do anything. I have committed myself to
doing
> >> whatever possible to get back to sparkling a immune system, and
> >> optimum wellness!
> >>
> >> My partner thinks EMF products are bogus, because I can't seem to
> >> find a website that explains the product details in good
> >> plain "scientic" language. He think's it's all mumbo-jumbo. Well
> >> some people may think that way about blood electrification
(although
> >> there is a patant on it). It's so much easier to swim through
the sea
> >> of those products.
> >>
> >> But, I am very keen on the final stage... healing, clearing, and
> >> protecting myself from electricity pollution. We have tons of
gizmos
> >> in our house (ie: 6 computers, tvs, dvd's, stereos, cell phones,
> >> portable phones, etc). I am noticing many things, as I never was
big
> >> on this stuff before. I do appreciate them, as they are all
tools.
> >>
> >> I have been researching for about a week on EMF Protection. I am
> >> constantly reading everything I can on this forum. I feel rather
> >> frustrated, as there seems to be no product yet, that many
people are
> >> in agreement with. The closest I came to finding an 'indirect
survey'
> >> has been on the "Quantum Pro". But then, I just read that it's
not
> >> that great. I am still curious about the "Stezer", although I
can't
> >> seem to find a website.
> >>
> >> Is there any offical survey's on products, that several people
> >> partaken in? There is just too many websites, and them some
websites
> >> have at least 20 products on there... yikes? I am getting tired,
of
> >> just researching :-)) (LOL!)
> >>
> >> Oh, someone mentioned www.energpolarit.com (and said they liked
> >> the 'schumann device' from there). This website seems
interesting,
> >> although there was no mention of this particular device on their
> >> website. Any thoughts on this?
> >>
> >> In the beginning of my search, I was ready to purchase "Biopro
Chips"
> >> (as I have several local friends, that swear by them)... perhaps
to
> >> make their commission? The other one that caught my eye is
EarthCalm.
> >> It's the only website that seems to describe the product details
in a
> >> thorough explaination. Both of these products seem to get much
> >> negative response on the forum.
> >>
> >> I do appreciate all your input on "devices" that you swear by,
as I

> As for EMF Protection Machines (just for EMF purposes only), it seems
> that 'most' people are in agreement with the Quantum Products. So this
> is something I will seriously look into. I'm also wondering about
> chips/stickers... that stick on to everything (ie: BioPro). There seems
> to be many companies that sell these stickers (button type product).
> It's hard to believe that it can work, and the money they want for just
> one sticker!! But if it works... I'm keen. Do you recommend any of
> these?

So far, I've yet to see any convincing testimonials on anything from
BioPro here. We've had a couple comments from folks that they didn't
work at all, and two comments from people who were trying to sell them.
So if anyone has truly benefited from these products, please speak up!

As for "stickers", I know that one list member liked the Aulterra
sticker:

http://www.aulterra.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=2012

They even turned it into a pendant to be worn around the neck.
Personally, I found this to be not strong enough to be of much use.

But there certainly are tiny-sized products that are producing
a noticeably strong energy field. Three products that come to
mind are the "Green 8" (green8usa.com), "Cell Phone Rejuvenizer"
(lighthealing.com), and the "Radar card" (radar3.com). However,
in my own case, just because I could feel a strong effect from
these items didn't mean that I was convinced that these effects
were *good* for me. Often times my reaction to such things would
be agitation, heart palpitations, etc.

Marc

> Yes, I'm experiementing with how my body reacts to 'Colloidal
> Silver'.

One of the theories behind electrical sensitivity is that the
body has a build-up of too many heavy metals in the system
(e.g., mercury, aluminum, copper, etc.). Colloidal silver
is also something that could potentially build up in a person,
so it could potentially increase ES symptoms.

Marc

Hello,

it is generally accepted, that good colloidal silver leaves the body within
4 days.

However, when one takes too much, the EHS may increase.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Marc Martin" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 16:30
Subject: Re: [eSens] Reply: Re: EMF Protection (product survey?)

No. I don't recommend any of these EMF protection machines. I have
tried a least 4 of them and none can prevent my head from hurting
around cell phones.
Now, they may do something, but they don't keep pain away from me.
There are some advocates on this list so each to their own and it makes
me believe there are different causes and conditions of ES with
different remedies=all valid.
I too have done a lot of colloidal silver and have found great benefits
and recommend breaks every once in a while in its usage to make sure
there isn't a lessoning of beneficial bacteria. Be sure you are
supplementing with yogurt, kefir, cultured foods, colostrum, etc.
Glad to hear you like coconut and milk.
Let me know what you find that works for you.
Andrew


On Jun 14, 2006, at 1:48 AM, treja_cat wrote:

Thanks a good point.
Cheers, Sahara


--- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote:

Marc, I appreciate you sharing your valuable research.
With gratitude, Sahara



--- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote:
>
> > As for EMF Protection Machines (just for EMF purposes only), it
seems
> > that 'most' people are in agreement with the Quantum Products. So
this
> > is something I will seriously look into. I'm also wondering about
> > chips/stickers... that stick on to everything (ie: BioPro). There
seems
> > to be many companies that sell these stickers (button type
product).
> > It's hard to believe that it can work, and the money they want
for just
> > one sticker!! But if it works... I'm keen. Do you recommend any of
> > these?
>
> So far, I've yet to see any convincing testimonials on anything from
> BioPro here. We've had a couple comments from folks that they
didn't
> work at all, and two comments from people who were trying to sell
them.
> So if anyone has truly benefited from these products, please speak
up!

Hello,

there are some things mixed up here.

Those machines are NOT EMF protection machines.

They are just bioresonance machines.
They handle a lot of diseases, imperfections and shortcomings.

Among them, they may make a body healthier.
By doing just that, the EHS may diminish.

I burn audio CD's with frequencies against EHS and MCS.
Some people find them very good.
There are even MCS who find them too strong, so they take longer pauses
between sessions.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew McAfee" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 19:45
Subject: Re: [eSens] Reply: Re: EMF Protection (product survey?)