EMF Protection (product survey?)

> Those machines are NOT EMF protection machines.
>
> They are just bioresonance machines.
> They handle a lot of diseases, imperfections and shortcomings.

This is my feeling on how the Springlife Polarizers function --
they are simply "good for you", and besides helping me with
my tolerance of EMF, they also help my tolerance for air pollution,
can lessen allergies to dust & pollen, etc.

In fact, one could argue that the cure for ES would simply
be to do a number of things which are good for you, until you
become healthy again. But, of course, the complexity is in
figuring out what exactly needs to be done...

Marc

> I burn audio CD's with frequencies against EHS and MCS.
> Some people find them very good.

Are these audible frequencies? Like music, or "white noise" ?

Marc

My Rife machine manual has a frequency of 657 hz for ES.
I am interested in learning other frequencies for healing if you can
share them.
Andrew
On Jun 15, 2006, at 10:53 AM, charles wrote:

Hi, Marc,

I have found your post and Charles' last post on this very interesting. Do you think that these polarizers, etc, are detoxing at all? How is it that you think they are "good for you", I guess is what I am asking? And Charles, I would ask re your latest post if you could elaborate, too. I am one who has avoided these devices, since I do not understand them. I have even avoided looking into a rife machine, tho it sounds very promising for my particular situation. I tend to avoid anything I don't understand and that I cannot get much info on to clear up my understanding. If it is relatively foreign or sounds foreign (rife just sounds complicated to me lol), I instead look for help in things I do understand. Thus I have centered my treatment on supplements and water, herbals, EFT, and such.

I, for one, would welcome more info on how these devices actually work healthwise.

Thanks in advance,
Diane
Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Those machines are NOT EMF protection machines.
>
> They are just bioresonance machines.
> They handle a lot of diseases, imperfections and shortcomings.

This is my feeling on how the Springlife Polarizers function --
they are simply "good for you", and besides helping me with
my tolerance of EMF, they also help my tolerance for air pollution,
can lessen allergies to dust & pollen, etc.

In fact, one could argue that the cure for ES would simply
be to do a number of things which are good for you, until you
become healthy again. But, of course, the complexity is in
figuring out what exactly needs to be done...

Marc





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Hi, Charles,

I would like more info on your CDs also.
Thanks, Diane


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Very interesting and helpful to read what is helping others.
I have to say that the number one helpful thing I ever tried, which
unfortunately I cannot tolerate, was a very high quality, very potent fish oil. I
happened to use one made by Barry Sears company (the guy that developed the
"zone diet"), but I'm sure there are others that are as good.
Anyway, it just about made the e. sens. go away, but it also made me
feel like I had the flu (fever, chills, body aches, etc.). I have had chronic
fatigue syndrome which consisted of feeling like I had the flu, so it was
basically a flare-up of this problem
My problem with fish oil, is, I have found out, exceedingly rare, so I
would recommend it to others even though I cant take it
My doctor feels some e sens is a cell membrane problem (neurons are
firing way too much, they are too excitable) and fish oil really helps stabilize
the cell membrane. another way to say this is the threshold for neuronal
firing is way too low.

I should mention that my e sens symptoms are agitation (extreme),
feeeling overwhelmed by sound and light and movement, and insomnia.
Neurontin does something like what fish oil does (raises threshold for
neuronal firing), but for me it is really fatiguing. I do take it anyway,
because I have too.
Mentioned before that stetzer filters are very helpful also.
Stephanie


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> I have found your post and Charles' last post on this very interesting.
> Do you think that these polarizers, etc, are detoxing at all?

If I use the larger polarizer models for any length of time, I start
feeling "bad" (nauseous, fatigued, etc.) in a rather typical detox
reaction.

The polarizers work by attracting "chi" (aka "life force energy").
So they feel like having a Reiki session, which also works with
the same sort of energy. One has to be careful using energy to
detox though, because there is nothing to bind with the toxins.
So one has to make sure that they have sufficient antioxidants,
fiber, etc. Or use the smaller models for less time, which is
what I mostly do.

Marc

> Very interesting and helpful to read what is helping others.
> I have to say that the number one helpful thing I ever tried, which
> unfortunately I cannot tolerate, was a very high quality, very potent
> fish oil. Anyway, it just about made the e. sens. go away, but it
> also made me feel like I had the flu (fever, chills, body aches, etc.).

Sounds like a detox reaction, meaning that the fish oil is really
good for you, but you need to be very careful about taking low enough
doses so that you can stand taking it. Eventually you should be able
to take a normal dose.

I have also tried a variety of fatty acid supplements -- cod liver oil,
salmon oil, krill oil, flax seed oil, evening primrose oil, borage oil,
olive oil, emu oil, chia seeds, etc. I have noticed that some
definitely
reduce my ES symptoms (e.g, evening primrose), and I have also noticed
that
I can hardly stand taking others (cod liver, chia). So they do seem
relevant to all of this.

I also noticed that eating raw egg yolks helps a lot with my ES
symptoms,
I don't know if this is due to the fatty acids or the lecithin or
something else. But this also caused detox symptoms for me...

Marc

Hi, Stephanie,

Are you sure that the reaction you were having to fish oil was not one of it detoxing something? I ask because I have the same symptoms with detoxing and also was dxed in the past with chronic fatigue syndrome and fibromyalgia. (My "real" dx tho turned out to be toxic overload and celiac disease without classic presentation. I do not know whether I actually had "cfids" or "fms" or not. My personal feeling on this is cfids and fms are actually caused by different things in different people, but that they are not, in actuality, diseases unto themselves. But this is just my opinion based on knowing alot of pwcs and pwfms who have recovered. When I got the celiac disease and other toxins under control, the cfids/fms abated. When I have accidental glutens or exposures to other toxins, the cfids and fms can return, depending on how bad the exposure.)

I believe, if my understanding is correct, that fish oil can break down fat reserves in your body, releasing toxins stored in them. If this is the case for you, then the reaction you were having was not actually a bad thing, but a good one. I have to go slowly to release these toxins stored in my fat deposits, to be sure they do not recycle back into my organs and brain, but get out of my body. But as I have done this, I have seen better and better health. I recently had a pesticide exposure, tho, which has set me back abit again. The reactions I get when I detox my fat are the same symptoms, only more intense, as my dxed chronic fatigue syndrome and fibromyalgia symptoms.

Hope this is helpful and welcome to the group, btw,
Diane

[hidden email] wrote:
Very interesting and helpful to read what is helping others.
I have to say that the number one helpful thing I ever tried, which
unfortunately I cannot tolerate, was a very high quality, very potent fish oil. I
happened to use one made by Barry Sears company (the guy that developed the
"zone diet"), but I'm sure there are others that are as good.
Anyway, it just about made the e. sens. go away, but it also made me
feel like I had the flu (fever, chills, body aches, etc.). I have had chronic
fatigue syndrome which consisted of feeling like I had the flu, so it was
basically a flare-up of this problem
My problem with fish oil, is, I have found out, exceedingly rare, so I
would recommend it to others even though I cant take it
My doctor feels some e sens is a cell membrane problem (neurons are
firing way too much, they are too excitable) and fish oil really helps stabilize
the cell membrane. another way to say this is the threshold for neuronal
firing is way too low.

I should mention that my e sens symptoms are agitation (extreme),
feeeling overwhelmed by sound and light and movement, and insomnia.
Neurontin does something like what fish oil does (raises threshold for
neuronal firing), but for me it is really fatiguing. I do take it anyway,
because I have too.
Mentioned before that stetzer filters are very helpful also.
Stephanie

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Thanks Marc,

This is helpful info! Do you think saturated fats would work as a binder with the larger polarizers and life force energy? I find for me, personally, that saturated fat is the most effective binder to be sure toxins are not getting into my organs and brain. Of course, I do have to be exercising and not storing up more fat while pigging out on the saturated fat, tho. lol I guess what I am asking is, do you know if small amounts of saturated fat could effectively bind the amount of toxins you would mobilize from a larger polarizer?

Btw, when I try to edit the senders post from my replies here, I can't do it. I get a resizing symbol come up where it reframes the page. I never used to get that, but this has happened consistently to me for the past month or so. Sorry I cannot edit my emails. :(

Thanks again for the info,
Diane
Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I have found your post and Charles' last post on this very interesting.
> Do you think that these polarizers, etc, are detoxing at all?

If I use the larger polarizer models for any length of time, I start
feeling "bad" (nauseous, fatigued, etc.) in a rather typical detox
reaction.

The polarizers work by attracting "chi" (aka "life force energy").
So they feel like having a Reiki session, which also works with
the same sort of energy. One has to be careful using energy to
detox though, because there is nothing to bind with the toxins.
So one has to make sure that they have sufficient antioxidants,
fiber, etc. Or use the smaller models for less time, which is
what I mostly do.

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Hi again, Marc,

Interesting about eggs being detoxing for you! I agree with what you say here re finding the right oils for you personally. You mention good success with primrose oil while I, on the other hand, could not tolerate it added to my regimen at all. My nutritionist told me that some "6" oils can cause stress for people if in too high a ratio to the others, and I was was apparently one who reacted to this. I was already taking a 3-6-9 supplement and fish oil. I added the primrose oil because I have hand tremors and high doses of it are supposed to help those in some circumstances. It turned out that the primrose worked great for the tremors but stressed me otherwise. So I quit it and kept the tremors. :(

Diane
Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Very interesting and helpful to read what is helping others.
> I have to say that the number one helpful thing I ever tried, which
> unfortunately I cannot tolerate, was a very high quality, very potent
> fish oil. Anyway, it just about made the e. sens. go away, but it
> also made me feel like I had the flu (fever, chills, body aches, etc.).

Sounds like a detox reaction, meaning that the fish oil is really
good for you, but you need to be very careful about taking low enough
doses so that you can stand taking it. Eventually you should be able
to take a normal dose.

I have also tried a variety of fatty acid supplements -- cod liver oil,
salmon oil, krill oil, flax seed oil, evening primrose oil, borage oil,
olive oil, emu oil, chia seeds, etc. I have noticed that some
definitely
reduce my ES symptoms (e.g, evening primrose), and I have also noticed
that
I can hardly stand taking others (cod liver, chia). So they do seem
relevant to all of this.

I also noticed that eating raw egg yolks helps a lot with my ES
symptoms,
I don't know if this is due to the fatty acids or the lecithin or
something else. But this also caused detox symptoms for me...

Marc




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Welcome to recently joined members - great to have you with us!

Just in case you're wondering why so much discussion on a group about
electrical sensitivity is on toxins etc. The experiences reported by this
and other groups show that something like three-quarters of people who get
severe ES have had chronic fatigue / ME, multiple chemical sensitivity, or
some other major immune system problem. So if that's your experience, no
you are not alone, and yes it is an important factor! The remainder of
severe ES sufferers seem to have had particularly high exposure to
electromagnetic/electric fields such as mobile phones or working on high
voltage equipment.

Many group members have benefited from a variety of treatments to help the
immune system or do detox, but different people find different treatments
helpful. (Just as there are different experiences on the different devices
to alleviate ES). This is probably because the underlying cause of the
immune system originally getting run down also varies a lot between people.
One particular angle - if you have a leaky gut or similar problem, oral
supplements and diet changes may not help as much as expected, because they
aren't being absorbed properly.

Of course many of you knew this already, but I thought it was worth
highlighting for those who are new to the area and struggling to make sense
of all your confusing symptoms.

Best wishes, Ian and Sue

_____

From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Evie
Sent: 15 June 2006 21:41
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [eSens] EMF Protection (product survey?)



Hi again, Marc,

Interesting about eggs being detoxing for you! I agree with what you say
here re finding the right oils for you personally. You mention good success
with primrose oil while I, on the other hand, could not tolerate it added to
my regimen at all. My nutritionist told me that some "6" oils can cause
stress for people if in too high a ratio to the others, and I was was
apparently one who reacted to this. I was already taking a 3-6-9 supplement
and fish oil. I added the primrose oil because I have hand tremors and high
doses of it are supposed to help those in some circumstances. It turned out
that the primrose worked great for the tremors but stressed me otherwise. So
I quit it and kept the tremors. :(

Diane
Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. <mailto:marc%40ufoseries.com> com> wrote:
> Very interesting and helpful to read what is helping others.
> I have to say that the number one helpful thing I ever tried, which
> unfortunately I cannot tolerate, was a very high quality, very potent
> fish oil. Anyway, it just about made the e. sens. go away, but it
> also made me feel like I had the flu (fever, chills, body aches, etc.).

Sounds like a detox reaction, meaning that the fish oil is really
good for you, but you need to be very careful about taking low enough
doses so that you can stand taking it. Eventually you should be able
to take a normal dose.

I have also tried a variety of fatty acid supplements -- cod liver oil,
salmon oil, krill oil, flax seed oil, evening primrose oil, borage oil,
olive oil, emu oil, chia seeds, etc. I have noticed that some
definitely
reduce my ES symptoms (e.g, evening primrose), and I have also noticed
that
I can hardly stand taking others (cod liver, chia). So they do seem
relevant to all of this.

I also noticed that eating raw egg yolks helps a lot with my ES
symptoms,
I don't know if this is due to the fatty acids or the lecithin or
something else. But this also caused detox symptoms for me...

Marc

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> This is helpful info! Do you think saturated fats would work as a
> binder with the larger polarizers and life force energy?

I don't know -- my experience with saturated fats has not been all
that good. Coconut oil weakened my legs until I could barely walk.
Whole milk (raw) works better for me, but I still have to limit my
intake else I get "panicky" (this seems to be a more tolerable
version of my reaction to cod liver oil)

Using an alkaline mineral supplement helps though, as does my
negatively charged hydrogren supplement.

Marc

Ok, since the thought crossed my mind twice in these recent threads, I  
let it out.

I have been researching herbs for allergies and found that one of the  
active ingredients in plants that help to stop the histamine reaction  
is quercetin. Evening primrose *leaf* has the highest concentration of  
quercetin in all plants. In fact it has five time more than the second  
on the list. BTW, the way quercetin works is by stregthening the cell  
walls so that he histamine reaction stops cascading to the next cell  
and causing it to burst and release histamines. Having researched it  
and usd it I can highly recommend evening primrose leaf tea for  
allergies. This coupled with nettle would be a great combination.

Ligure

Quoting Marc Martin <[hidden email]>:

Hey, Ian,

Thanks for the post. I've been missing you! I was just wondering earlier today if you went off with Perla to visit her family. ;) j/k Give Sue a "hi" for me. :)

My best to you both,
Diane

Ian Kemp <[hidden email]> wrote:
Welcome to recently joined members - great to have you with us!

Just in case you're wondering why so much discussion on a group about
electrical sensitivity is on toxins etc. The experiences reported by this
and other groups show that something like three-quarters of people who get
severe ES have had chronic fatigue / ME, multiple chemical sensitivity, or
some other major immune system problem. So if that's your experience, no
you are not alone, and yes it is an important factor! The remainder of
severe ES sufferers seem to have had particularly high exposure to
electromagnetic/electric fields such as mobile phones or working on high
voltage equipment.

Many group members have benefited from a variety of treatments to help the
immune system or do detox, but different people find different treatments
helpful. (Just as there are different experiences on the different devices
to alleviate ES). This is probably because the underlying cause of the
immune system originally getting run down also varies a lot between people.
One particular angle - if you have a leaky gut or similar problem, oral
supplements and diet changes may not help as much as expected, because they
aren't being absorbed properly.

Of course many of you knew this already, but I thought it was worth
highlighting for those who are new to the area and struggling to make sense
of all your confusing symptoms.

Best wishes, Ian and Sue

_____

From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Evie
Sent: 15 June 2006 21:41
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [eSens] EMF Protection (product survey?)

Hi again, Marc,

Interesting about eggs being detoxing for you! I agree with what you say
here re finding the right oils for you personally. You mention good success
with primrose oil while I, on the other hand, could not tolerate it added to
my regimen at all. My nutritionist told me that some "6" oils can cause
stress for people if in too high a ratio to the others, and I was was
apparently one who reacted to this. I was already taking a 3-6-9 supplement
and fish oil. I added the primrose oil because I have hand tremors and high
doses of it are supposed to help those in some circumstances. It turned out
that the primrose worked great for the tremors but stressed me otherwise. So
I quit it and kept the tremors. :(

Diane
Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. <mailto:marc%40ufoseries.com> com> wrote:
> Very interesting and helpful to read what is helping others.
> I have to say that the number one helpful thing I ever tried, which
> unfortunately I cannot tolerate, was a very high quality, very potent
> fish oil. Anyway, it just about made the e. sens. go away, but it
> also made me feel like I had the flu (fever, chills, body aches, etc.).

Sounds like a detox reaction, meaning that the fish oil is really
good for you, but you need to be very careful about taking low enough
doses so that you can stand taking it. Eventually you should be able
to take a normal dose.

I have also tried a variety of fatty acid supplements -- cod liver oil,
salmon oil, krill oil, flax seed oil, evening primrose oil, borage oil,
olive oil, emu oil, chia seeds, etc. I have noticed that some
definitely
reduce my ES symptoms (e.g, evening primrose), and I have also noticed
that
I can hardly stand taking others (cod liver, chia). So they do seem
relevant to all of this.

I also noticed that eating raw egg yolks helps a lot with my ES
symptoms,
I don't know if this is due to the fatty acids or the lecithin or
something else. But this also caused detox symptoms for me...

Marc

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Hey, Marc,

Thanks again! Things I hadn't thought of, but I already take (negative hydrogen water and supplement)! Sorry you do not react well with coconut oil and milk. I had organic potato chips in mind as my saturated fat of choice. lololol

Enjoy,
Diane

Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:
> This is helpful info! Do you think saturated fats would work as a
> binder with the larger polarizers and life force energy?

I don't know -- my experience with saturated fats has not been all
that good. Coconut oil weakened my legs until I could barely walk.
Whole milk (raw) works better for me, but I still have to limit my
intake else I get "panicky" (this seems to be a more tolerable
version of my reaction to cod liver oil)

Using an alkaline mineral supplement helps though, as does my
negatively charged hydrogren supplement.

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Hi, Ligure,

No wonder I couldn't take primrose oil! I am taking huge amounts of quercetin supplements already! Thanks for the info.

And, yes, the quercetin has helped my food intolerances immeasurably. I was down to eating only about 5 foods and now I can eat most everything but gluten grains, soy, sugar, sweeteners, and asparagus. I still do avoid most processed foods, tho, as I consider them toxinators (well the same with sugar and sweeteners, really. But I avoid those because I have diabetes.)

I have had bad reactions since taking quercetin with mold and mildew and also pyrethrins which I had previously not reacted to. I have been wondering why I am reacting so badly to those now, all of a sudden, since I had detoxed so successfully recently and I thought quercetin would also help with these. The pyrethrin reaction is not a toxic reaction any longer, as it is now "inert". But I am still reacting to it and the company claims it is an allergy to natural pyrethrins.

Any comments or suggestions anybody?
Thanks again, Ligure,
Diane

Ligure <[hidden email]> wrote:
Ok, since the thought crossed my mind twice in these recent threads, I
let it out.

I have been researching herbs for allergies and found that one of the
active ingredients in plants that help to stop the histamine reaction
is quercetin. Evening primrose *leaf* has the highest concentration of
quercetin in all plants. In fact it has five time more than the second
on the list. BTW, the way quercetin works is by stregthening the cell
walls so that he histamine reaction stops cascading to the next cell
and causing it to burst and release histamines. Having researched it
and usd it I can highly recommend evening primrose leaf tea for
allergies. This coupled with nettle would be a great combination.

Ligure

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I am glad you found the benefits of quercetin. I don’t know much about the
pyrethrin reaction you mention, but as for sugars and sweeteners I can say
some:

Summary: Avoid them like the plague. They are unwholesome and will cause
problems.

Details:

Refined sugar is usually processed from sugar canes where the sweet part is
extracted leaving all the nutrients (which are meant to accompany it)
behind. The “leftovers” end up as molasses. Molasses is very rich in
minerals and is an excellent thing to take for your health at a rate of
1-tbls spoons a day to help build up trace mineral stores and iron. The
process of separating the sucrose from the sugar cane involved chemical
solvents which can be a concern for those that are chemically sensitive.

Artificial sweeteners are worse than sugar itself for a few reasons. 1) It
tricks the body into thinking that it will be getting calories and leaves
the body hungry for those quick calories. The net result is that you usually
end up eating more when you take artificial sweeteners because the caloric
satiation is not occurring with the taste trigger. 2) Specifically aspartame
breaks down into methal alcohol and formaldehyde when at body temperature.
Neither one of those are good for the chemically sensitive. Aspartame has
been traced to several disease conditions which are similar to the common
ones listed in this group (e.g. fibromyalgia) and Gulf War Syndrome. 3)
Splenda is worse than aspartame because it is directly correlated to
depression as well at the common conditions of this group. Again sugar is
better for you than the artifical sweeteners.

For a natural sweetener, try local (to you) raw honey (can’t find it in
stores. You have to go to a bee keeper direct. Interview the bee keeper to
make sure they do not feed the bees sugar or antibiotics). It helps to
desensitize to airborne allergens of the region. Also there is molasses.
This is not usually as palatable to some as honey is. The kind to get will
have a high amount of iron (and will be organic). Then there is stevia.
Depending on the form you get it is 20x sweeter than sugar. There is also
licorice powder. This should be used in moderation as it can lead to a
heavier load on your heart, but it does strengthen the adrenals.

 

Anyway Gotta Go for Now,

 

Ligure

 

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From: Evie [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 3:29 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [eSens] EMF Protection (product survey?)

 

Hi, Ligure,

No wonder I couldn't take primrose oil! I am taking huge amounts of
quercetin supplements already! Thanks for the info.

And, yes, the quercetin has helped my food intolerances immeasurably. I was
down to eating only about 5 foods and now I can eat most everything but
gluten grains, soy, sugar, sweeteners, and asparagus. I still do avoid most
processed foods, tho, as I consider them toxinators (well the same with
sugar and sweeteners, really. But I avoid those because I have diabetes.)

I have had bad reactions since taking quercetin with mold and mildew and
also pyrethrins which I had previously not reacted to. I have been wondering
why I am reacting so badly to those now, all of a sudden, since I had
detoxed so successfully recently and I thought quercetin would also help
with these. The pyrethrin reaction is not a toxic reaction any longer, as it
is now "inert". But I am still reacting to it and the company claims it is
an allergy to natural pyrethrins.

Any comments or suggestions anybody?
Thanks again, Ligure,
Diane

Ligure <HYPERLINK
"mailto:reiki%40atticmemories.com"[hidden email]> wrote:
Ok, since the thought crossed my mind twice in these recent threads, I
let it out.

I have been researching herbs for allergies and found that one of the
active ingredients in plants that help to stop the histamine reaction
is quercetin. Evening primrose *leaf* has the highest concentration of
quercetin in all plants. In fact it has five time more than the second
on the list. BTW, the way quercetin works is by stregthening the cell
walls so that he histamine reaction stops cascading to the next cell
and causing it to burst and release histamines. Having researched it
and usd it I can highly recommend evening primrose leaf tea for
allergies. This coupled with nettle would be a great combination.

Ligure

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Thanks for the info, Ligure!
   
I do use a bit of stevia for sweetening. I was unaware that it affected the heart negatively and the adrenals positively, so that info is very helpful to me, thanks. I used to use honey and molasses (molasses actually probably saved my life about a decade ago when I nearly died from anemia secondary to celiac disease). I no longer can use honey or molasses due to the carb count.  
   
My nutritionist is a genius, in my opinion. When I first began seeing him he suggested that I go completely sugar and all types of sweetener-free, save for stevia, because I had turned diabetic within the two years previous to that. Had I seen a medical doctor for this problem, I would now be onmeds. However, my nutritionist told me that if I watched my carbs and gave up sugar in all its forms (artificial sweeteners are mostly all sugar alcohols of some sort), I could live the rest of my life free of diabetes, most likely. I did as he suggested and sure enough, within a year of startingthe diet he proposed, my blood sugar readings dropped into the normal range. So I am not planning on giving up my sugar-free lifestyle any time soon. Thanks for supporting my cause with all that sugar info, tho. :)

Yesterday, my nutritionist suggested that I add coffee to my diet (half acup 3 or 4 times/day). Today, as I drank my first half cup of coffee in over 20 years, I received a research article from a buddy on my celiac forumregarding the health benefits of drinking coffee on the liver! The study came out just two weeks ago. I'd say my nutritionist is up on his reading.lol I had cirrhosis pre-celiac dx and according to the article, coffee protects alcoholics (and others, such as celiacs), from getting cirrhosis.
   
Thanks again, Ligure,
Diane
Ligure <[hidden email]> wrote:
I am glad you found the benefits of quercetin. I don’t know much about the
pyrethrin reaction you mention, but as for sugars and sweeteners I can say
some:

Summary: Avoid them like the plague. They are unwholesome and will cause
problems.

Details:

Refined sugar is usually processed from sugar canes where the sweet part is
extracted leaving all the nutrients (which are meant to accompany it)
behind. The “leftovers” end up as molasses. Molasses is very rich in
minerals and is an excellent thing to take for your health at a rate of
1-tbls spoons a day to help build up trace mineral stores and iron. The
process of separating the sucrose from the sugar cane involved chemical
solvents which can be a concern for those that are chemically sensitive.

Artificial sweeteners are worse than sugar itself for a few reasons. 1) It
tricks the body into thinking that it will be getting calories and leaves
the body hungry for those quick calories. The net result is that you usually
end up eating more when you take artificial sweeteners because the caloric
satiation is not occurring with the taste trigger. 2) Specifically aspartame
breaks down into methal alcohol and formaldehyde when at body temperature.
Neither one of those are good for the chemically sensitive. Aspartame has
been traced to several disease conditions which are similar to the common
ones listed in this group (e.g. fibromyalgia) and Gulf War Syndrome. 3)
Splenda is worse than aspartame because it is directly correlated to
depression as well at the common conditions of this group. Again sugar is
better for you than the artifical sweeteners.

For a natural sweetener, try local (to you) raw honey (can’t find it in
stores. You have to go to a bee keeper direct. Interview the bee keeper to
make sure they do not feed the bees sugar or antibiotics). It helps to
desensitize to airborne allergens of the region. Also there is molasses.
This is not usually as palatable to some as honey is. The kind to get will
have a high amount of iron (and will be organic). Then there is stevia.
Depending on the form you get it is 20x sweeter than sugar. There is also
licorice powder. This should be used in moderation as it can lead to a
heavier load on your heart, but it does strengthen the adrenals.



Anyway Gotta Go for Now,



Ligure



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Hi, Ligure,

No wonder I couldn't take primrose oil! I am taking huge amounts of
quercetin supplements already! Thanks for the info.

And, yes, the quercetin has helped my food intolerances immeasurably. I was
down to eating only about 5 foods and now I can eat most everything but
gluten grains, soy, sugar, sweeteners, and asparagus. I still do avoid most
processed foods, tho, as I consider them toxinators (well the same with
sugar and sweeteners, really. But I avoid those because I have diabetes.)

I have had bad reactions since taking quercetin with mold and mildew and
also pyrethrins which I had previously not reacted to. I have been wondering
why I am reacting so badly to those now, all of a sudden, since I had
detoxed so successfully recently and I thought quercetin would also help
with these. The pyrethrin reaction is not a toxic reaction any longer, as it
is now "inert". But I am still reacting to it and the company claims it is
an allergy to natural pyrethrins.

Any comments or suggestions anybody?
Thanks again, Ligure,
Diane

Ligure "mailto:reiki%40atticmemories.com"[hidden email]> wrote:
Ok, since the thought crossed my mind twice in these recent threads, I
let it out.

I have been researching herbs for allergies and found that one of the
active ingredients in plants that help to stop the histamine reaction
is quercetin. Evening primrose *leaf* has the highest concentration of
quercetin in all plants. In fact it has five time more than the second
on the list. BTW, the way quercetin works is by stregthening the cell
walls so that he histamine reaction stops cascading to the next cell
and causing it to burst and release histamines. Having researched it
and usd it I can highly recommend evening primrose leaf tea for
allergies. This coupled with nettle would be a great combination.

Ligure

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the characteristics of an audio CD are, that it contains audio files, which
can be played in any CD player, whether a normal stereo, car radio or
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I have placed three samples on:
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I do not know if the files section of the eSens Yahoo group allows for 100
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Otherwise I could store them there, and everybody could download them and
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