EMF Exposures, Blood Pressure and Heart Beat.

Hi Everyone:  I was wondering if any member of the group has experienced
an increase or decrease in their Blood Pressure and or Heart Beat when
they have become exposed to an EMF Energy source.

  I just resently experienced a major change in my Blood Pressure and
Heart Beat when I was exposed for several hours to a bare conductor that
was located about 7 ft. from me. The conductor was charged to 9 Vdc and
carried a negative - charge. There was no current flowing in the
conductor. Serveral hours after the exposure I realized I had a problem.
My blood pressure had risen from my nornal of 140/80 to 195/100. and my
Heart was beating very irregular.

It is now 4 days later and my blood pressure and heart rate are just
beginning to return to normal levesl

As Always: Howard



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--- In [hidden email], "HowardM" <hmcarthur@...> wrote: YES! YES! YES!  Howard, my blood pressure has spiked greatly since I noticed a strange phenomenon in my bedroom!  My bed is an old Beautyrest with hand tied coiled springs.  It is soft as a feather and I love it!  But lying in bed I feel a very faint vibration coming from the bed, and I hear/feel a very low rumbling sound.  Not like an engine, and it doesn't come through the "air"... it seems to come from the earth, like somebody working underground.  I go outside and can't hear it.  I can hear/feel it in other rooms, but it's strongest in bed, probably amplified by the springs.  

My blood pressure has been a nice low 115/60 for years... now when I wake up it can be 170/90 with pulse a racing 110.  As the day goes on it seems to drop until at night it is back to normal, but the next morning it's sky high again.  

PLEASE, ANYBODY ELSE WITH THIS EXPERIENCE TELL US!  Both to track the phenomenon and maybe to put our minds at ease... that it is not an anatomical problem, but an EMF effect.  

I have no idea what sort of permanent damage this may be causing.  We have to get some attention on this problem... but first we need to gather lots of data so when we do protest we won't be considered just more conspiracy theorists.  Come to think of it...maybe  we should tell Jesse Ventura one of these days!

Marji - San Diego  

Yes, I have had an increased heart rate ever since the meters were installed, haven't had a good nights sleep since. I also get that rumbling through my bed, it drives me nuts. I am going to put down a mattress topper made of memory foam hoping that puts a layer between the metal springs and me. I also put a folding wood board between my box spring and mattress.
I am think of buying a wood frame with a futon on it as a last resort.
Steve

--- In [hidden email], "Marjij" <marjij@...> wrote:

> I am going to put down a mattress topper made of memory foam hoping
> that puts a layer between the metal springs and me. I also put a
> folding wood board between my box spring and mattress. I am think of
> buying a wood frame with a futon on it as a last resort.

I found that I slept the best with a wood bed frame and a latex
mattress.  Very little metal in all that (just a few screws here
and there).

Unfortunately, my wife got back problems with the latex mattress,
so we're using the innerspring mattress again, and I've got a 3"
latex topper on my side of the bed.  I think the topper helps
a bit, but the all-latex mattress solution was definitely better.

Marc

I also have pounding heart and higher than normal blood pressure. I am in a very toxic house. Lots of cell towers and antennas. Transformer on the pole and power lines across my back yard. I also could hear my bed springs humming. I had to buy a foam mattress.I still hear weird noises at night when everything is quiet.I think it's gremlins. Ha Ha. I'm trying to sell my house. Nothing yet. When it's sold I moving to the edge of nowhere. It's called Pinon Hills, Ca. only 4 cell towers an 7 antennas. Now I have 71 Cell towers and 218 antennas. I am getting excited about moving. I sure hope that I get better when I move. I hope It isn't to late. I have so many symptoms right now, it is awful. Some days I  don't want to be living anymore. I really need to get out of here. Happy new year. I am praying that this year we will all find relief. Positively!!!

--- In [hidden email], "Marjij" <marjij@...> wrote:

                 Greetings to all forum members and a happy New Year 2011


     Here is my 2 cents contribution for leisure reading:
 
                                     Radiation by computer
http://forums.hpathy.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=12342&title=radiation-from-computer

With regards
  Lew

--- On Tue, 1/4/11, torch369 <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: torch369 <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: EMF Exposures, Blood Pressure and Heart Beat.
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, January 4, 2011, 3:46 PM







 



 


   
     
     
      Yes, I have had an increased heart rate ever since the meters were installed, haven't had a good nights sleep since. I also get that rumbling through my bed, it drives me nuts. I am going to put down a mattress topper made of memory foam hoping that puts a layer between the metal springs and me. I also put a folding wood board between my box spring and mattress.

I am think of buying a wood frame with a futon on it as a last resort.

Steve



--- In [hidden email], "Marjij" <marjij@...> wrote:

>

>

>

> --- In [hidden email], "HowardM" <hmcarthur@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Hi Everyone:  I was wondering if any member of the group has experienced

> > an increase or decrease in their Blood Pressure and or Heart Beat when

> > they have become exposed to an EMF Energy source.

> >

> >   I just resently experienced a major change in my Blood Pressure and

> > Heart Beat when I was exposed for several hours to a bare conductor that

> > was located about 7 ft. from me. The conductor was charged to 9 Vdc and

> > carried a negative - charge. There was no current flowing in the

> > conductor. Serveral hours after the exposure I realized I had a problem.

> > My blood pressure had risen from my nornal of 140/80 to 195/100. and my

> > Heart was beating very irregular.

> >

> > It is now 4 days later and my blood pressure and heart rate are just

> > beginning to return to normal levesl

> >

> > As Always: Howard

> >

> YES! YES! YES!  Howard, my blood pressure has spiked greatly since I noticed a strange phenomenon in my bedroom!  My bed is an old Beautyrest with hand tied coiled springs.  It is soft as a feather and I love it!  But lying in bed I feel a very faint vibration coming from the bed, and I hear/feel a very low rumbling sound.  Not like an engine, and it doesn't come through the "air"... it seems to come from the earth, like somebody working underground.  I go outside and can't hear it.  I can hear/feel it in other rooms, but it's strongest in bed, probably amplified by the springs.  

>

> My blood pressure has been a nice low 115/60 for years... now when I wake up it can be 170/90 with pulse a racing 110.  As the day goes on it seems to drop until at night it is back to normal, but the next morning it's sky high again.  

>

> PLEASE, ANYBODY ELSE WITH THIS EXPERIENCE TELL US!  Both to track the phenomenon and maybe to put our minds at ease... that it is not an anatomical problem, but an EMF effect.  

>

> I have no idea what sort of permanent damage this may be causing.  We have to get some attention on this problem... but first we need to gather lots of data so when we do protest we won't be considered just more conspiracy theorists.  Come to think of it...maybe  we should tell Jesse Ventura one of these days!

>

> Marji - San Diego

>





   
     

   
   


 



 






     

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I'm allergic to latex and the smell would drive me nuts, which is one reason i can't use a tempurpedic-surprised myou didnt try that as well.
I'm seriously considering a thick futon on a wood frame, but not sure where to find a good one
Steve

--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote:

Hope it works out for you, for me moving isn't possible right now. I really dont get much sleep. some nights I'll take a benadryl to get a few hours

--- In [hidden email], "lindameetoo" <lindameetoo@...> wrote:

Yes, some of them affect my heart, make it pound hard and fast. -
If you tap the inside of your wrists together at a slower pace
about 25-30 times it will cause it to slow down again. You may have
to do it twice if it's bad.

I have low b.p. almost always, so that hasn't been a problem for me.

I also feel those workings under the earth, mainly when I'm in bed, I think because all is quiet and still. I notice it sitting in my chair
at the pc sometimes too, but I live along a fault line.
I believe it is tremors, although sometimes it has felt more like tunneling going on underground, which is quite possible also, and you certainly could be hearing it. - Think Taos hum.
Look up earth tunneling machines if there's doubt we have many underground tunnels and facilities. There's the old mechanical ones and nuclear ones.

I don't have any springs or metal in my matress, so that may not be causing what you are feeling or hearing in this case.

~Snoshoe

--- In [hidden email], "Marjij" <marjij@...> wrote:

Here's another symptom I get sometimes, does anyone notice this;
It's a pressure in my head, like your brain is being compressed. It
may sometimes feel like a full feeling in your head like you might have a sinus infection but don't?

I do know it is caused by sonar when the mil. is doing things, but has anyone else experienced this?

~ Snoshoe

--- In [hidden email], "snoshoe_2" <snoshoe_2@...> wrote:

I drink Melatonin tea. It helps me sleep, some. I buy it online. at puritan's pride. Sometimes I use 2 bags to make the tea. It doesn't always help. I have had sleeping problems for 14 years. This helps the most. Melatonin pills don't help. I have a grounding sheet. It helps some. Q link has been helping me since the smart meter. Not much, but a little. I just started using vervain  for my nerves. I will give it a little while to see if it helps. Try the tea for a few nights. I have only seen it online. It has a few herbs in it that help relax you and make you tired. I hope It will help you. Even a regular 2 hours of sleep will help,f you can go back to sleep easily, the tea helpes me with that problem sometimes.I went days without any sleep. If I did fall asleep I dreamed I was awake.I think the years of little sleep was what has made me so sensitive to the EMF. I can't hardly go anywhere without feeling worse. Home is awful too. I sure hope someone buys my house soon.
Be blessed
Linda

--- In [hidden email], "torch369" <torch369@...> wrote:

Hi Linda,

I can identify with you and what you are going thru as I lived 30 years near a power tower that was only 30 yards away. When I walked underneath the power lines I could hear the metal portion of my umbrella humming as you mentioned. Living there I believe raised my blood pressure as prior to that I was passing out on a regular basis from very low blood pressure. After living there for awhile that stopped. It wasn't until recently I realized what happened because after I moved away from the power tower I had a near-fainting spell from low blood pressure for the first time in many years. Not to say living near the tower was good as it caused me to be very ill as you described you feel.

How long have you lived where you are?

I moved 14 months ago and could give you some idea of how it might go it you are anything like me. Let me know.

Cheryl

--- On Tue, 1/4/11, lindameetoo <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: lindameetoo <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: EMF Exposures, Blood Pressure and Heart Beat.
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, January 4, 2011, 5:36 PM







 



 


   
     
     
      I also have pounding heart and higher than normal blood pressure. I am in a very toxic house. Lots of cell towers and antennas. Transformer on the pole and power lines across my back yard. I also could hear my bed springs humming. I had to buy a foam mattress.I still hear weird noises at night when everything is quiet.I think it's gremlins. Ha Ha. I'm trying to sell my house. Nothing yet. When it's sold I moving to the edge of nowhere. It's called Pinon Hills, Ca. only 4 cell towers an 7 antennas. Now I have 71 Cell towers and 218 antennas. I am getting excited about moving. I sure hope that I get better when I move. I hope It isn't to late. I have so many symptoms right now, it is awful. Some days I  don't want to be living anymore. I really need to get out of here. Happy new year. I am praying that this year we will all find relief. Positively!!!



--- In [hidden email], "Marjij" <marjij@...> wrote:

>

>

>

> --- In [hidden email], "HowardM" <hmcarthur@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Hi Everyone:  I was wondering if any member of the group has experienced

> > an increase or decrease in their Blood Pressure and or Heart Beat when

> > they have become exposed to an EMF Energy source.

> >

> >   I just resently experienced a major change in my Blood Pressure and

> > Heart Beat when I was exposed for several hours to a bare conductor that

> > was located about 7 ft. from me. The conductor was charged to 9 Vdc and

> > carried a negative - charge. There was no current flowing in the

> > conductor. Serveral hours after the exposure I realized I had a problem.

> > My blood pressure had risen from my nornal of 140/80 to 195/100. and my

> > Heart was beating very irregular.

> >

> > It is now 4 days later and my blood pressure and heart rate are just

> > beginning to return to normal levesl

> >

> > As Always: Howard

> >

> YES! YES! YES!  Howard, my blood pressure has spiked greatly since I noticed a strange phenomenon in my bedroom!  My bed is an old Beautyrest with hand tied coiled springs.  It is soft as a feather and I love it!  But lying in bed I feel a very faint vibration coming from the bed, and I hear/feel a very low rumbling sound.  Not like an engine, and it doesn't come through the "air"... it seems to come from the earth, like somebody working underground.  I go outside and can't hear it.  I can hear/feel it in other rooms, but it's strongest in bed, probably amplified by the springs.  

>

> My blood pressure has been a nice low 115/60 for years... now when I wake up it can be 170/90 with pulse a racing 110.  As the day goes on it seems to drop until at night it is back to normal, but the next morning it's sky high again.  

>

> PLEASE, ANYBODY ELSE WITH THIS EXPERIENCE TELL US!  Both to track the phenomenon and maybe to put our minds at ease... that it is not an anatomical problem, but an EMF effect.  

>

> I have no idea what sort of permanent damage this may be causing.  We have to get some attention on this problem... but first we need to gather lots of data so when we do protest we won't be considered just more conspiracy theorists.  Come to think of it...maybe  we should tell Jesse Ventura one of these days!

>

> Marji - San Diego

>





   
     

   
   


 



 






     

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Yes SLEEP pretty dam important just to recharge the body, since August I  
have had trouble sleeping upstairs, I get an increase in my raging tinitus
and a  general feeling of uneasyness.  I have just come back from holiday and  
spent the nights in a basement here I could feel a sense of relaxation in
my  body, my limbs felt light and unstressed, yes I agree that lack of sleep
will  hieghten ES, but basically that's a no brainer as your body becomes
weeker  without proper sleep and thus less able to defend itself sensibly. I
also have  noticed that I feel over energised when I am close to my wife in
bed, and on  many occasions will have to move away from her, this is likely
due to the fact  that she is a nurse and spends many hours in a ward full of
wifi, flourescent  lights, electronics and of course many very ill people, I
think her bodies  electrical system is radiating out bad RF due to the
stress the latter, being so  close in a bed for long hours it seems not a great
leap of faith to belive this  is feasible ie that an ES person can be that
sensitive, given the right  circumstances. I write this as last night was one
of those nights where I just  lay in bed with my eyes close but my brain
wide open ! sleep was just not  happening, looks like a night on the tiles
again.
 
ps I understand that in the UK telecom providers have been granted  
permission to double the power of 3G masts since September, I wonder if this has  
affected my sleep on the upper floor of my house its about the same height as
 many local lamppost antenna ?
 
puk
 
 
In a message dated 05/01/2011 05:44:00 GMT Standard Time,  
[hidden email] writes:

 
 
 
I drink Melatonin tea. It helps me sleep, some. I buy it online. at  
puritan's pride. Sometimes I use 2 bags to make the tea. It doesn't always  help.
I have had sleeping problems for 14 years. This helps the most.  Melatonin
pills don't help. I have a grounding sheet. It helps some. Q link  has been
helping me since the smart meter. Not much, but a little. I just  started
using vervain for my nerves. I will give it a little while to see if  it helps.
Try the tea for a few nights. I have only seen it online. It has a  few
herbs in it that help relax you and make you tired. I hope It will help  you.
Even a regular 2 hours of sleep will help,f you can go back to sleep  easily,
the tea helpes me with that problem sometimes.I went days without any  
sleep. If I did fall asleep I dreamed I was awake.I think the years of little  
sleep was what has made me so sensitive to the EMF. I can't hardly go
anywhere  without feeling worse. Home is awful too. I sure hope someone buys my
house so  on.
Be blessed
Linda

--- In _eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) , "torch369"  
<torch369@...> wrote:
>
> Hope it works out for you, for me  moving isn't possible right now. I
really dont get much sleep. some nights  I'll take a benadryl to get a few hours
>
> --- In _eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) ,
"lindameetoo"  <lindameetoo@> wrote:
> >
> > I also have pounding  heart and higher than normal blood pressure. I am
in a very toxic house. Lots  of cell towers and antennas. Transformer on
the pole and power lines across my  back yard. I also could hear my bed
springs humming. I had to buy a foam  mattress.I still hear weird noises at night
when everything is quiet.I think  it's gremlins. Ha Ha. I'm trying to sell
my house. Nothing yet. When it's sold  I moving to the edge of nowhere. It's
called Pinon Hills, Ca. only 4 cell  towers an 7 antennas. Now I have 71
Cell towers and 218 antennas. I am getting  excited about moving. I sure hope
that I get better when I move. I hope It  isn't to late. I have so many
symptoms right now, it is awful. Some days I  don't want to be living anymore. I
really need to get out of here. Happy new  year. I am praying that this year
we will all find relief.  Positively!!!
> >
> > --- In _eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) ,
"Marjij"  <marjij@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >  
> > > --- In _eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) ,
"HowardM"  <hmcarthur@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >  
> > > > Hi Everyone: I was wondering if any member of the  group has
experienced
> > > > an increase or decrease in their  Blood Pressure and or Heart Beat
when
> > > > they have become  exposed to an EMF Energy source.
> > > >
> > >  > I just resently experienced a major change in my Blood Pressure  
and
> > > > Heart Beat when I was exposed for several hours to  a bare
conductor that
> > > > was located about 7 ft. from me.  The conductor was charged to 9
Vdc and
> > > > carried a  negative - charge. There was no current flowing in the
> > > >  conductor. Serveral hours after the exposure I realized I had a  
problem.
> > > > My blood pressure had risen from my nornal of  140/80 to 195/100.
and my
> > > > Heart was beating very  irregular.
> > > >
> > > > It is now 4 days  later and my blood pressure and heart rate are
just
> > > >  beginning to return to normal levesl
> > > >
> > >  > As Always: Howard
> > > >
> > > YES! YES!  YES! Howard, my blood pressure has spiked greatly since I
noticed a strange  phenomenon in my bedroom! My bed is an old Beautyrest
with hand tied coiled  springs. It is soft as a feather and I love it! But
lying in bed I feel a very  faint vibration coming from the bed, and I hear/feel
a very low rumbling  sound. Not like an engine, and it doesn't come through
the "air"... it seems  to come from the earth, like somebody working
underground. I go outside and  can't hear it. I can hear/feel it in other rooms,
but it's strongest in bed,  probably amplified by the springs.
> > >
> > > My  blood pressure has been a nice low 115/60 for years... now when I
wake up it  can be 170/90 with pulse a racing 110. As the day goes on it
seems to drop  until at night it is back to normal, but the next morning it's
sky high again.  
> > >
> > > PLEASE, ANYBODY ELSE WITH THIS  EXPERIENCE TELL US! Both to track the
phenomenon and maybe to put our minds at  ease... that it is not an
anatomical problem, but an EMF effect.
> >  >
> > > I have no idea what sort of permanent damage this may  be causing. We
have to get some attention on this problem... but first we need  to gather
lots of data so when we do protest we won't be considered just more  
conspiracy theorists. Come to think of it...maybe we should tell Jesse Ventura  one
of these days!
> > >
> > > Marji - San  Diego
> > >
> >
>





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I have been getting from time to time a feeling as if someone has just put  
a tight band around my head, or perhaps a tight fitting hat ?
 
puk
 
 
In a message dated 05/01/2011 04:39:02 GMT Standard Time,  
[hidden email] writes:

 
 
 
Here's another symptom I get sometimes, does anyone notice this;
It's a  pressure in my head, like your brain is being compressed. It
may sometimes  feel like a full feeling in your head like you might have a
sinus infection  but don't?

I do know it is caused by sonar when the mil. is doing  things, but has
anyone else experienced this?

~ Snoshoe

--- In  _eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) ,
"snoshoe_2"  <snoshoe_2@...> wrote:
>
> Yes, some of them affect my  heart, make it pound hard and fast. -
> If you tap the inside of your  wrists together at a slower pace
> about 25-30 times it will cause it  to slow down again. You may have
> to do it twice if it's bad.
>  
> I have low b.p. almost always, so that hasn't been a problem for  me.
>
> I also feel those workings under the earth, mainly when  I'm in bed, I
think because all is quiet and still. I notice it sitting in my  chair
> at the pc sometimes too, but I live along a fault line.
>  I believe it is tremors, although sometimes it has felt more like
tunneling  going on underground, which is quite possible also, and you certainly
could be  hearing it. - Think Taos hum.
> Look up earth tunneling machines if  there's doubt we have many
underground tunnels and facilities. There's the old  mechanical ones and nuclear ones.
>
> I don't have any springs or  metal in my matress, so that may not be
causing what you are feeling or  hearing in this case.
>
> ~Snoshoe
>
> --- In _eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) , "Marjij"  
<marjij@> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >  --- In _eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) ,
"HowardM"  <hmcarthur@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> >  > Hi Everyone: I was wondering if any member of the group has  
experienced
> > > an increase or decrease in their Blood Pressure  and or Heart Beat
when
> > > they have become exposed to an EMF  Energy source.
> > >
> > > I just resently  experienced a major change in my Blood Pressure and
> > > Heart  Beat when I was exposed for several hours to a bare conductor
that
>  > > was located about 7 ft. from me. The conductor was charged to 9 Vdc  
and
> > > carried a negative - charge. There was no current  flowing in the
> > > conductor. Serveral hours after the exposure  I realized I had a
problem.
> > > My blood pressure had risen from  my nornal of 140/80 to 195/100. and
my
> > > Heart was beating  very irregular.
> > >
> > > It is now 4 days later  and my blood pressure and heart rate are just
> > > beginning to  return to normal levesl
> > >
> > > As Always:  Howard
> > >
> > YES! YES! YES! Howard, my blood  pressure has spiked greatly since I
noticed a strange phenomenon in my  bedroom! My bed is an old Beautyrest with
hand tied coiled springs. It is soft  as a feather and I love it! But lying
in bed I feel a very faint vibration  coming from the bed, and I hear/feel a
very low rumbling sound. Not like an  engine, and it doesn't come through
the "air"... it seems to come from the  earth, like somebody working
underground. I go outside and can't hear it. I  can hear/feel it in other rooms, but
it's strongest in bed, probably amplified  by the springs.
> >
> > My blood pressure has been a nice  low 115/60 for years... now when I
wake up it can be 170/90 with pulse a  racing 110. As the day goes on it
seems to drop until at night it is back to  normal, but the next morning it's
sky high again.
> >
> >  PLEASE, ANYBODY ELSE WITH THIS EXPERIENCE TELL US! Both to track the  
phenomenon and maybe to put our minds at ease... that it is not an
anatomical  problem, but an EMF effect.
> >
> > I have no idea what  sort of permanent damage this may be causing. We
have to get some attention on  this problem... but first we need to gather
lots of data so when we do protest  we won't be considered just more
conspiracy theorists. Come to think of  it...maybe we should tell Jesse Ventura one
of these days!
> >  
> > Marji - San Diego
> >
>





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> I'm allergic to latex and the smell would drive me nuts, which is one
> reason i can't use a tempurpedic-surprised myou didnt try that as well.

My wife and I tried the tempurpedic matresses at the store, and concluded
that we wouldn't like it.

There was no smell that I noticed with either the latex mattress or
latex topper I bought, so I must not be sensitive to that.

Marc

Hi, Linda, Marjij, and others with bp changes,
 
I hope it works for you too, Linda, and you are able to sell your house very soon!  I have all types of autonomic nervous system symptoms when I am exposed too long to particular emfs.  I have bp plummeting, but I suspect that is what happens when you have too many exposures causing high bp and your andrenals finally fizzle out [or vice versa--too low and then too high bp.  When I was younger I had high bp at times and we didn't know why back then, which is why I think the former might sometimes be the case.] 
 
I have been pretty successful at treating my too low bp with calcium AEP and pantethine.  [I have no idea what this combo would do for too high bp; but it might help the adrenals from going completely bonkers, if taken on a daily basis but not necessarily when bp is high.]  Also I have taken manganese and taurine which help me to withstand more emfs without reacting, for longer periods.  [I don't necessarily recommend this supplementation unless you can do more research on it yourself and determine that manganese and taurine will not be detrimental to your health.  Manganese itself can be a toxic metal.  Taurine supplementation, however, is highly recommended by Dr. Tennent, of "Healing is Voltage", fame.]  I came to using all 4 of these on my own, so I cannot point you to a doctor for this.  My nutritionist had previously recommended cal AEP and pantethine for adrenal insufficiency and lymphatic overload.  I found the manganese and taurine
 searching for ways to close leaking calcium channels.  [I have long suspected damaged tight junctions and ion channel pathways are at least partly to blame for my reactions to emfs.  I appear to have blood brain barrier tight junction damage.  Also I appear to have calcium ion-channel problems.  When the tight junctions do not properly close, the calcium can leak from that cell and it takes manganese to close the tight junction again.]  I usually take the cal and pantethine now only when my bp tanks, but previously, for adrenal and lymphatic overload, I worked my way up to very high amounts for over a year + timeframe under the care of a nutritionist.  Not everybody who tries this (cal AEP and pantethine) finds it helpful, which leads me to think one needs precursor supplementation, as well (which I also did), which are very person specific.  Calcium, pantethine, and co Q 10 (which I also took/ take--tho spuratically now) are the 3
 most essential nutrients for the adrenals and lymphatic system.  In those of us with autonomic nervous system symptoms, it does, however, appear that lymphatic overload and adrenal exhaustion is involved.  So this is a good place to start working on to heal.  Supplementation can be effective.  Homeopathy can also be effective in in helping to heal these organs if you can find a very good homeopathist in your area.  It is also likely you need to work on your liver, as it is often dysfunctional when your lymphatic system is overworked.  Just suggestions to look into. 
 
Hope you all find therapies which work for you,
Diane

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From: lindameetoo <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: EMF Exposures, Blood Pressure and Heart Beat.
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, January 4, 2011, 8:36 PM


 



I also have pounding heart and higher than normal blood pressure. I am in a very toxic house. Lots of cell towers and antennas. Transformer on the pole and power lines across my back yard. I also could hear my bed springs humming. I had to buy a foam mattress.I still hear weird noises at night when everything is quiet.I think it's gremlins. Ha Ha. I'm trying to sell my house. Nothing yet. When it's sold I moving to the edge of nowhere. It's called Pinon Hills, Ca. only 4 cell towers an 7 antennas. Now I have 71 Cell towers and 218 antennas. I am getting excited about moving. I sure hope that I get better when I move. I hope It isn't to late. I have so many symptoms right now, it is awful. Some days I don't want to be living anymore. I really need to get out of here. Happy new year. I am praying that this year we will all find relief. Positively!!!

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Yes, even a few hours of sleep helps. The lack of sleep definitely makes me more sensitive not only to emf but to noises as well. i have very good hearing to begin with but it gets ultra sensitive when I dont get sleep. It drives me nuts.

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> I drink Melatonin tea. It helps me sleep, some. I buy it online. at puritan's pride. Sometimes I use 2 bags to make the tea. It doesn't always help. I have had sleeping problems for 14 years. This helps the most. Melatonin pills don't help. I have a grounding sheet. It helps some. Q link has been helping me since the smart meter. Not much, but a little. I just started using vervain  for my nerves. I will give it a little while to see if it helps. Try the tea for a few nights. I have only seen it online. It has a few herbs in it that help relax you and make you tired. I hope It will help you. Even a regular 2 hours of sleep will help,f you can go back to sleep easily, the tea helpes me with that problem sometimes.I went days without any sleep. If I did fall asleep I dreamed I was awake.I think the years of little sleep was what has made me so sensitive to the EMF. I can't hardly go anywhere without feeling worse. Home is awful too. I sure hope someone buys my house soon.
> Be blessed
> Linda
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You're lucky, I have MCS and everything I own and use has to be fragrance free
Steve

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Yes, taping on insides of wrists and ankles does help, not only heart rate, but also will help lymph gland swelling to go down, and other lymph/ adrenal symptoms you might have.  (Tap about an inch or 2 above your ankles.)  Thanks, Sno!
 
Encouraging others to try it,
Diane

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From: snoshoe_2 <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: EMF Exposures, Blood Pressure and Heart Beat.
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, January 4, 2011, 11:33 PM


 



Yes, some of them affect my heart, make it pound hard and fast. -
If you tap the inside of your wrists together at a slower pace
about 25-30 times it will cause it to slow down again. You may have
to do it twice if it's bad.

I have low b.p. almost always, so that hasn't been a problem for me.

I also feel those workings under the earth, mainly when I'm in bed, I think because all is quiet and still. I notice it sitting in my chair
at the pc sometimes too, but I live along a fault line.
I believe it is tremors, although sometimes it has felt more like tunneling going on underground, which is quite possible also, and you certainly could be hearing it. - Think Taos hum.
Look up earth tunneling machines if there's doubt we have many underground tunnels and facilities. There's the old mechanical ones and nuclear ones.

I don't have any springs or metal in my matress, so that may not be causing what you are feeling or hearing in this case.

~Snoshoe

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Interesting info, thanks. I happen to have calcium aep and pantethine in my cabinet and will try this. I will also make sure I take the taurine every day. I already take CoQ10
Steve

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