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Yes there are keyboards and mouse(mouses/mice) that the only source is the USB cord and plugged into the computer. no other power source except through that cable. The computer powers them. They would be in the basic computer package you would buy. My computer is an Emachine with a flat LCD screen. The Internet is connected directly with the fiber optic cord the phone company just put in. I only get 0.2mg off the keyboard, mouse, and monitor and 0.25mgfrom the tower from where I sit and it's a foot from me. It's in a cupboard so the off gassing from the tower is not directly at me.
Kris ________________________________ From: R. Ticle <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Wed, February 17, 2010 8:45:44 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: fiber optic cable Are there any (sorry if this is a dumb question) USB fiber optic cables you know of that can work with mice and keyboards which don't require their own power source? (Such as is the case, if I'm correct, with the fiber optic DVI cable?) Cheers --- On Wed, 2/17/10, cris_aov <[hidden email]> wrote: From: cris_aov <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] Re: fiber optic cable To: [hidden email] Received: Wednesday, February 17, 2010, 11:52 PM I recently got the USB fiber optic cable, I does make a nice difference though not as big a difference as the DVI fiber optic cable did for me. One issue I have with is that at my end it needs to be powered by an adapter but its ,only a 2 prong adapter so its not grounded, Im trying to figure out a way to ground it, I think Im going to buy a metal keyboard and just ground the chassis of the keyboard , Im also thinking of buying a lithium or lead acid battery for it so I can just power it on battery, basically powering my keyboard and mouse on battery. -Cris --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote: > > > My mouse and keyboard are > > connected to the computer using a USB fiber optic cable > > I don't recall you reporting if the fiber optic cable for your > keyboard and mouse made any noticeable difference in computer > tolerance/symptoms? > > Marc > __________________________________________________________________ Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail. Click on Options in Mail and switch to New Mail today or register for free at http://mail.yahoo.ca [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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The fiber optic with the metal wire for power would
largely defeat the purpose, as the computer would contaminate the power with RF. Of course the keyboard has a processor too, so it's not an easy problem. I'm told even the old TEMPEST shielded keyboards are not clean enough for the most sensitive people. I'd love to try a metal keyboard or mouse. I haven't seen any. It would be nice if they were made of 1/4" or thicker aluminum, but the keys would still leak. One solution for the mouse is to get two mice, run fiber optic from the one in your hand to the second one which sends the info to the computer. But it sounds too advanced for me to try. For me, running a laptop on battery with external keyboard helps (if the computer isn't doing DC to DC conversion) or a keyboard with tall keys (like the old IBM clicky-key or non-clicky version). Bill On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 6:38 AM, K <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > Yes there are keyboards and mouse(mouses/mice) that the only source is the > USB cord and plugged into the computer. no other power source except through > that cable. The computer powers them. They would be in the basic computer > package you would buy. My computer is an Emachine with a flat LCD screen. > The Internet is connected directly with the fiber optic cord the phone > company just put in. I only get 0.2mg off the keyboard, mouse, and monitor > and 0.25mgfrom the tower from where I sit and it's a foot from me. It's in a > cupboard so the off gassing from the tower is not directly at me. > > Kris > > ________________________________ > From: R. Ticle <[hidden email] <rticleone%40yahoo.ca>> > To: [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wed, February 17, 2010 8:45:44 PM > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: fiber optic cable > > > Are there any (sorry if this is a dumb question) USB fiber optic cables you > know of that can work with mice and keyboards which don't require their own > power source? (Such as is the case, if I'm correct, with the fiber optic DVI > cable?) > > Cheers > > --- On Wed, 2/17/10, cris_aov <[hidden email] <cris_aov%40yahoo.com>> > wrote: > > From: cris_aov <[hidden email] <cris_aov%40yahoo.com>> > Subject: [eSens] Re: fiber optic cable > To: [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com> > Received: Wednesday, February 17, 2010, 11:52 PM > > I recently got the USB fiber optic cable, I does make a nice difference > though not as big a difference as the DVI fiber optic cable did for me. One > issue I have with is that at my end it needs to be powered by an adapter but > its ,only a 2 prong adapter so its not grounded, Im trying to figure out a > way to ground it, I think Im going to buy a metal keyboard and just ground > the chassis of the keyboard , Im also thinking of buying a lithium or lead > acid battery for it so I can just power it on battery, basically poweringmy > keyboard and mouse on battery. > > -Cris > > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote: > > > > > > > My mouse and keyboard are > > > > connected to the computer using a USB fiber optic cable > > > > > > I don't recall you reporting if the fiber optic cable for your > > > keyboard and mouse made any noticeable difference in computer > > > tolerance/symptoms? > > > > > > Marc > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the > boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail. Click on Options in Mail and switch to > New Mail today or register for free at http://mail.yahoo.ca > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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> For me, running a laptop on battery with external keyboard helps (if
> the computer isn't doing DC to DC conversion) or a keyboard with tall > keys (like the old IBM clicky-key or non-clicky version). Never thought about the tall keys, although I *do* use an old (~1993) IBM "clicky key" keyboard at home. This keyboard does not cause me any problems when connected to my Sony desktop computer, but I did have keyboard/mouse problems when it was hooked up to a different computer. Marc |
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> I have the WDS product Computer Clear on my PC. This helps neutralise
> EMFs coming out of monitor and PC. WDS are a company who work on > making products from Bio Resonance technology. I'm very happy with > their products, and I can personally recommend them. Here's a link > to them, if you want to investigate: > > http://www.wds-global.com/ I once tried the "Computer Clear" software on my computer (must have been at least 6 years ago), and about the only thing I noticed was that I got heart palpitations when sitting in front of the computer, when I never did before (or since). I think the only software product I've tried that has proven itself to me that it reduces my computer symptoms is "Quantum Byte" from www.quantumproducts.com . I recently tried another software product from www.globalcoherence.com, and that just seemed to make my symptoms worse... (although I have not revisited this to see if that was an initial detox reaction that I might be able to get past) Marc |
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FIOS helped me considerably but I'm not sure I have the same kind of sensitivity. I think it may be EMF in my case but I think it's related. I'm not sure. It has helped me to unplug all of the appliances atleast at night at I've been shutting off the breakers whenever possible atnight as well as during the day. There is a wealth of information about "Living Off The Grid" and "Unplugged Living" online. It saves money as well. You probably already know this. I don't have time to read everything at this forum. I just wanted to make sure everyone knows.
--- On Wed, 2/17/10, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] fiber optic cable To: [hidden email] Date: Wednesday, February 17, 2010, 9:48 AM > My mouse and keyboard are > connected to the computer using a USB fiber optic cable I don't recall you reporting if the fiber optic cable for your keyboard and mouse made any noticeable difference in computer tolerance/symptoms? Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Hi Diane,
Yes it is frustrating if you have to work all day on a computer that radiates you... Me, I have a small business (no employees only seasonal) in Belgium/Europe that's focused on business gifts (chocolates+wines) and export of chocolates to US & Japan. My work involves also like 8 hours/day work on a pc. I can manage the pc-problems because with my 4.5 year old Acer laptop I have not too much problems. I do have problems with more modern laptops. I have less problems with desktops but I kinda need a laptop, that way I can work partially from home as well. Lately I've gotten a lot more sensitive to cars, so for my job that's much more of a problem right now... Teaching might be a good idea for you, I think/guess that the Wifi and mobile phone radiation will be less of a problem than working in front of a pc you can't bear... but probably you'll only know for sure once you try it... good luck, Stephen. --- In [hidden email], Diane Dennis <dp_dennis@...> wrote: > > Thanks for the info, on this topic, I am taking this all on board. Can I ask everyone what you all do for a living? Right now I work in admin and amin front of a computer all day and no-one is listening to my concerns so Ican't stay here much longer. I am the only peson in the ofice whose filing is bang up to date because I get up and do it every day so I can get away from my desk. I need a career that is not computer based but as you can imagine its hard because most industries are computer reliant. I am thinking of going into primary school teaching because that would mean less timein front of a computer, I have some teaching experience, I love working with children and I think I would be a good teacher. I have doubts about teaching in a secondary/ high school because of all the wi- fi and mobile phones which don't really affect me now, but they might do later downthe line. :-( What does everyone else do for a living and how do you manage? > > Diane > > >  > > ________________________________ > From: cris_aov <cris_aov@...> > To: [hidden email] > Sent: Wed, 17 February, 2010 7:54:09 > Subject: [eSens] Re: Computers and Laptops: whats the solution? > >  > When I first started looking for a solution for my e-sens to computers, Iput like 6 cacti around my monitor but there was really no difference maybe a small difference but it was hard to tell , the reason maybe you felt better after watering them was that water emits negative ions into the air while monitors and electronics emit positive ions ( which are not good for you). Ive tried many laptops and a few netbooks and a mac mini, some where a bit better than others, but they all made me feel really bad, I ended up keeping an aluminum macbook pro which was slightly better than the others. > > My current setup basically consists of my macbook pro connected to a projector using a DVI fiber optic cable. My mouse and keyboard are connected tothe computer using a USB fiber optic cable, and everything is connected toa tripp lite isobar surge protector, I can say Im pretty much symptom freenow I dont get any symptoms now, only if Im on like the whole day at the end of the day I get some very minor symptoms.I use to start getting face burn and rashes within 5 minutes when I use to use my macbook pro alone. > > -Cristian > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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What makes the Acer tolerable? Did you remove or shut down the wi-fi card?
I heard that HP agreed to make "greener" computers that dont use toxic chemicals and substances... has anyone heard about this? --- On Thu, 2/18/10, stephen_vandevijvere <[hidden email]> wrote: From: stephen_vandevijvere <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] Re: Computers and Laptops: whats the solution? To: [hidden email] Date: Thursday, February 18, 2010, 8:15 PM Hi Diane, Yes it is frustrating if you have to work all day on a computer that radiates you... Me, I have a small business (no employees only seasonal) in Belgium/Europe that's focused on business gifts (chocolates+ wines) and export of chocolates to US & Japan. My work involves also like 8 hours/day work on a pc. I can manage the pc-problems because with my 4.5 year old Acer laptop I have not too much problems. I do have problems with more modern laptops. I have less problems with desktops but I kinda need a laptop, that way I can work partially from home as well. Lately I've gotten a lot more sensitive to cars, so for my job that's much more of a problem right now... Teaching might be a good idea for you, I think/guess that the Wifi and mobile phone radiation will be less of a problem than working in front of a pc you can't bear... but probably you'll only know for sure once you try it... good luck, Stephen. --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Diane Dennis <dp_dennis@. ..> wrote: > > Thanks for the info, on this topic, I am taking this all on board. Can I ask everyone what you all do for a living? Right now I work in admin and am in front of a computer all day and no-one is listening to my concerns so I can't stay here much longer. I am the only peson in the ofice whose filing is bang up to date because I get up and do it every day so I can get away from my desk. I need a career that is not computer based but as you can imagine its hard because most industries are computer reliant. I am thinking of going into primary school teaching because that would mean less time in front of a computer, I have some teaching experience, I love working with children and I think I would be a good teacher. I have doubts about teaching in a secondary/ high school because of all the wi- fi and mobile phones which don't really affect me now, but they might do later down the line. :-( What does everyone else do for a living and how do you manage? > > Diane > > >  > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: cris_aov <cris_aov@.. .> > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > Sent: Wed, 17 February, 2010 7:54:09 > Subject: [eSens] Re: Computers and Laptops: whats the solution? > >  > When I first started looking for a solution for my e-sens to computers, I put like 6 cacti around my monitor but there was really no difference maybe a small difference but it was hard to tell , the reason maybe you felt better after watering them was that water emits negative ions into the air while monitors and electronics emit positive ions ( which are not good for you). Ive tried many laptops and a few netbooks and a mac mini, some where a bit better than others, but they all made me feel really bad, I ended up keeping an aluminum macbook pro which was slightly better than the others. > > My current setup basically consists of my macbook pro connected to a projector using a DVI fiber optic cable. My mouse and keyboard are connected to the computer using a USB fiber optic cable, and everything is connected to a tripp lite isobar surge protector, I can say Im pretty much symptom free now I dont get any symptoms now, only if Im on like the whole day at the end of the day I get some very minor symptoms.I use to start getting face burn and rashes within 5 minutes when I use to use my macbook pro alone. > > -Cristian > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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I've been absolutely fine with the Computer Clear software. It's also been updated again recently as it's been produced by the latest E-lybra Bio-Resonance machine. It's also adjustable so you can decide upon which intensity you require. Regards, David From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Marc Martin Sent: 18 February 2010 19:52 To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [eSens] software solutions for the computer > I have the WDS product Computer Clear on my PC. This helps neutralise > EMFs coming out of monitor and PC. WDS are a company who work on > making products from Bio Resonance technology. I'm very happy with > their products, and I can personally recommend them. Here's a link > to them, if you want to investigate: > > http://www.wds-global.com/ I once tried the "Computer Clear" software on my computer (must have been at least 6 years ago), and about the only thing I noticed was that I got heart palpitations when sitting in front of the computer, when I never did before (or since). I think the only software product I've tried that has proven itself to me that it reduces my computer symptoms is "Quantum Byte" from www.quantumproducts.com . I recently tried another software product from www.globalcoherence.com, and that just seemed to make my symptoms worse... (although I have not revisited this to see if that was an initial detox reaction that I might be able to get past) Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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In a message dated 19/02/2010 06:10:12 GMT Standard Time, acekingsuited06 @yahoo.com writes: I need a career that is not computer based but as you can imagine its hard because most industries are computer reliant. I am thinking of going into primary school teaching because that would mean less time in front of a computer, I have some teaching experience, I love working with children and I think I would be a good teacher. I have doubts about teaching in a secondary/ high school because of all the wi- fi and mobile phones which don't really affect me now, but they might do later down the line. :-( What does everyone else do for a living and how do you manage? PUK replies I have gome through the same predicament as you, I have a BSc Honours degree in Building Surveying and 20yrs experience, but I am now floundering, I have consideredthe Police force (no due to Tetra radios) Perhaps a doctor ( I would make a great one, but no due to modern tech in hospitals and pcs) a Teacher, well thats possible but just like you I keepon stalling - I have not worked for well over a year and was struggling for 5or more due to ES in office environments, I am now signed off as ES by my GP and get a state benefit of £64.50 per week as opposed to the £600 I used to earn. All other non skilled work is just around the minimum wage of £5.50 per hour so thats a stumbling block to start to slave away at something that has no future, gardening and outside work is a possibility and a little better pay, but again its very hand to mouth. I need to make a decision soon, perhaps if you are interested in teaching then you should go for it,you could always find a scholl later on that is lowish tech to get your foot in the door, for me Physical education teaching and Biology might be an option, the PE is good due to outdoors etc.. The only thing you must master is not to broadcast the fact that you are ES to much, in relation to work, dont expect altruistic traetment you wont get it, you will just be marginalised, there are to many other viable candidates that can fill yourshoes. p [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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In a message dated 19/02/2010 06:10:12 GMT Standard Time, [hidden email] writes: I can manage the pc-problems because with my 4.5 year old Acer laptop I have not too much problems. PUK replies - check out EBAY or boot sales for old laptops, also try using the laptop at a distance by loading up a trail version of AI squared ZOOMTEXT, so that you can easily see the graphics from a distance, bring a keyboard and mouse on extension cables from the laptop. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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No idea why I can bear the old Acer laptop... Probably I can bear other laptops that are 5 years old...
I think it should be one of these 4 that's bothering me with new laptops: 1. The processor/motherboard The new laptops all use the same Intel-processors (also Apple) which are much faster and probably emit other/higher frequencies... but I (think) I canstand new destkops (which use the same processors I suppose?), so that doesn't make sense... 2. Harddrive It could also be the EMF from the harddrive but I don't think so, I have a recent external drive and I can stand that... 3. Wifi card There is no Wifi card on the old Acer, which is just great! ;) But whilst testing recent models I did put off the Wifi so... I had an external Wifi card on the Acer and felt no difference (although I could measurethe difference). 4. 3G card For a short period I had a 3G-card from somebody else (for surfing on the cellphone-masts; this is for Europe) and that did got me really sick, but onthe laptops I tested 2 years ago there was no 3G-card for standard... So it's not easy to tell why... Probably it's different for everybody... Stephen. --- In [hidden email], Poker Addict <acekingsuited06@...> wrote: > > What makes the Acer tolerable? Did you remove or shut down the wi-fi card? > > > > I heard that HP agreed to make "greener" computers that dont use toxic chemicals and substances... has anyone heard about this? > > > > --- On Thu, 2/18/10, stephen_vandevijvere <stephen_vandevijvere@...> wrote: > > From: stephen_vandevijvere <stephen_vandevijvere@...> > Subject: [eSens] Re: Computers and Laptops: whats the solution? > To: [hidden email] > Date: Thursday, February 18, 2010, 8:15 PM > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Hi Diane, > > > > Yes it is frustrating if you have to work all day on a computer that radiates you... > > > Me, I have a small business (no employees only seasonal) in > Belgium/Europe that's focused on business gifts (chocolates+ wines) and > export of chocolates to US & Japan. > > > > My work involves also like 8 hours/day work on a pc. > > > > I can manage the pc-problems because with my 4.5 year old Acer laptop I > have not too much problems. I do have problems with more modern > laptops. I have less problems with desktops but I kinda need a laptop, > that way I can work partially from home as well. > > > > Lately I've gotten a lot more sensitive to cars, so for my job that's much more of a problem right now... > > > > Teaching might be a good idea for you, I think/guess that the Wifi and > mobile phone radiation will be less of a problem than working in front > of a pc you can't bear... but probably you'll only know for sure once > you try it... > > > > good luck, > > Stephen. > > > > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Diane Dennis <dp_dennis@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > Thanks for the info, on this topic, I am taking this all on board. > Can I ask everyone what you all do for a living? Right now I work in > admin and am in front of a computer all day and no-one is listening to > my concerns so I can't stay here much longer.à I am the only peson in > the ofice whose filing is bang up to date because I get up and do it > every day so I can get away from my desk. I need a career that is not > computer based but as you can imagine its hard because most industries > are computer reliant. I am thinking of going into primary school > teaching because that would mean less time in front of a computer, I > have some teaching experience, I love working with children and I think > I would be a good teacher. I have doubts about teaching in a secondary/ > high school because of all the wi- fi and mobile phones which don't > really affect me now, but they mightà doà later down the line.à :-( > What does everyone else do for a living and how do you manage? > > > > > > Diane > > > > > > > > > à > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > From: cris_aov <cris_aov@ .> > > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > > > Sent: Wed, 17 February, 2010 7:54:09 > > > Subject: [eSens] Re: Computers and Laptops: whats the solution? > > > > > > à > > > When I first started looking for a solution for my e-sens to > computers, I put like 6 cacti around my monitor but there was really no > difference maybe a small difference but it was hard to tell , the > reason maybe you felt better after watering them was that water emits > negative ions into the air while monitors and electronics emit positive > ions ( which are not good for you). Ive tried many laptops and a few > netbooks and a mac mini, some where a bit better than others, but they > all made me feel really bad, I ended up keeping an aluminum macbook pro > which was slightly better than the others. > > > > > > My current setup basically consists of my macbook pro connected to > a projector using a DVI fiber optic cable. My mouse and keyboard are > connected to the computer using a USB fiber optic cable, and everything > is connected to a tripp lite isobar surge protector, I can say Im > pretty much symptom free now I dont get any symptoms now, only if Im on > like the whole day at the end of the day I get some very minor > symptoms.I use to start getting face burn and rashes within 5 minutes > when I use to use my macbook pro alone. > > > > > > -Cristian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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> No idea why I can bear the old Acer laptop... Probably I can bear other
> laptops that are 5 years old... It's also possible that it has nothing to do with the vintage of the laptop. I know that we once had a Dell laptop made around 1998 that was utterly intolerable to me, yet a 2006 IBM laptop was pretty good... Marc |
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> What does everyone else do for a living and how do you manage?
Heh, heh... I develop software... how's that for one of the worst possible jobs for someone with ES? I manage by taking lots of supplements and using a few select EMF protection devices, plus trying to keep things as far away from me as possible without attracting attention from co-workers. :-) Marc |
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Wow Marc, You are Brave!
--- On Fri, 2/19/10, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Computers and Laptops: whats the solution? To: [hidden email] Date: Friday, February 19, 2010, 12:53 PM > What does everyone else do for a living and how do you manage? Heh, heh... I develop software... how's that for one of the worst possible jobs for someone with ES? I manage by taking lots of supplements and using a few select EMF protection devices, plus trying to keep things as far away from me as possible without attracting attention from co-workers. :-) Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Interesting, I was thinking about buying the screen to go in front of the monitor to block the EMF but maybe I should try this first. You see a big difference then? Loni
--- On Thu, 2/18/10, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] software solutions for the computer To: [hidden email] Date: Thursday, February 18, 2010, 12:52 PM > I have the WDS product Computer Clear on my PC. This helps neutralise > EMFs coming out of monitor and PC. WDS are a company who work on > making products from Bio Resonance technology. I'm very happy with > their products, and I can personally recommend them. Here's a link > to them, if you want to investigate: > > http://www.wds- global.com/ I once tried the "Computer Clear" software on my computer (must have been at least 6 years ago), and about the only thing I noticed was that I got heart palpitations when sitting in front of the computer, when I never did before (or since). I think the only software product I've tried that has proven itself to me that it reduces my computer symptoms is "Quantum Byte" from www.quantumproducts .com . I recently tried another software product from www.globalcoherence .com, and that just seemed to make my symptoms worse... (although I have not revisited this to see if that was an initial detox reaction that I might be able to get past) Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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> Interesting, I was thinking about buying the screen to go in front of the
> monitor to block the EMF but maybe I should try this first. You see a big > difference then? Loni The thing about the software is that two of the options (from quantumproducts.com and globalcoherence.com) are free to try out (in fact, the one from globalcoherence.com is free, period). So you can download them, install them on your computer, and see if you notice any difference. If not (or if it makes things worse), you can just de-install them from your computer. But yes, using the software (or other products) from quantum products can make the difference between me having a red face, headache, burning skin, etc. or not (depending on how long I spend in front of the computer). And I'd be interested to hear of others reactions (or lack of reaction) to the software from globalcoherence.com. I have immediate negative reactions to that. I tried one of their protective "credit card" sized devices -- same thing. Marc |
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Hi Diane!
Sorry you are struggling. Yes computer is hard to get away from. Teaching could possibly be a good solution but you know there is usually lots of wireless in a school. Maybe not as much in elementary grades. Loni --- On Wed, 2/17/10, Diane Dennis <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Diane Dennis <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Computers and Laptops: whats the solution? To: [hidden email] Date: Wednesday, February 17, 2010, 2:38 AM Thanks for the info, on this topic, I am taking this all on board. Can I ask everyone what you all do for a living? Right now I work in admin and am in front of a computer all day and no-one is listening to my concerns so I can't stay here much longer. I am the only peson in the ofice whose filing is bang up to date because I get up and do it every day so I can get away from my desk. I need a career that is not computer based but as you can imagine its hard because most industries are computer reliant. I am thinking of going into primary school teaching because that would mean less time in front of a computer, I have some teaching experience, I love working withchildren and I think I would be a good teacher. I have doubts about teaching in a secondary/ high school because of all the wi- fi and mobile phones which don't really affect me now, but they might do later down the line. :-( What does everyone else do for a living and how do you manage? Diane ____________ _________ _________ __ From: cris_aov <cris_aov@yahoo. com> To: eSens@yahoogroups. com Sent: Wed, 17 February, 2010 7:54:09 Subject: [eSens] Re: Computers and Laptops: whats the solution? When I first started looking for a solution for my e-sens to computers, I put like 6 cacti around my monitor but there was really no difference maybe a small difference but it was hard to tell , the reason maybe you felt better after watering them was that water emits negative ions into the air while monitors and electronics emit positive ions ( which are not good for you). Ive tried many laptops and a few netbooks and a mac mini, some where a bit better than others, but they all made me feel really bad, I ended up keeping an aluminum macbook pro which was slightly better than the others. My current setup basically consists of my macbook pro connected to a projector using a DVI fiber optic cable. My mouse and keyboard are connected to the computer using a USB fiber optic cable, and everything is connected to atripp lite isobar surge protector, I can say Im pretty much symptom free now I dont get any symptoms now, only if Im on like the whole day at the endof the day I get some very minor symptoms.I use to start getting face burnand rashes within 5 minutes when I use to use my macbook pro alone. -Cristian [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Hey Marc,
Actually, I did download the Global Coherence one; I'm sure it's been running for well over the 120 or however many hours they say for it to take effect. I don't think it's entirely placebo that I've been spending more time in front of the PC without feeling so off. On the other hand, I really couldn't say I a difference that I was aware of with Quantum Byte's software. R. --- On Sat, 2/20/10, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] software solutions for the computer To: [hidden email] Received: Saturday, February 20, 2010, 5:31 PM > Interesting, I was thinking about buying the screen to go in front of the > monitor to block the EMF but maybe I should try this first. You see a big > difference then? Loni The thing about the software is that two of the options (from quantumproducts. com and globalcoherence. com) are free to try out (in fact, the one from globalcoherence. com is free, period). So you can download them, install them on your computer, and see if you notice any difference. If not (or if it makes things worse), you can just de-install them from your computer. But yes, using the software (or other products) from quantum products can make the difference between me having a red face, headache, burning skin, etc. or not (depending on how long I spend in front of the computer). And I'd be interested to hear of others reactions (or lack of reaction) to the software from globalcoherence. com. I have immediate negative reactions to that. I tried one of their protective "credit card" sized devices -- same thing. Marc __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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> Actually, I did download the Global Coherence one; I'm sure it's been
> running for well over the 120 or however many hours they say for it to > take effect. I don't think it's entirely placebo that I've been spending > more time in front of the PC without feeling so off. On the other hand, > I really couldn't say I a difference that I was aware of with Quantum > Byte's software. Ahh, so maybe it's just me that finds the Global Coherence software unbearable (causing an immediate splitting headache and burning skin). I will agree that the Global Coherence software is definitely more noticeable than the Quantum Byte software! Marc |
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VERY BRAVE!!
What supplements do you take? I read in one of your posts that your level of sensitivity has decreased. -Diane ________________________________ From: Loni <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Sat, 20 February, 2010 16:41:56 Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Computers and Laptops: whats the solution? Wow Marc, You are Brave! --- On Fri, 2/19/10, Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com> wrote: From: Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Computers and Laptops: whats the solution? To: eSens@yahoogroups. com Date: Friday, February 19, 2010, 12:53 PM > What does everyone else do for a living and how do you manage? Heh, heh... I develop software... how's that for one of the worst possible jobs for someone with ES? I manage by taking lots of supplements and using a few select EMF protection devices, plus trying to keep things as far away from me as possible without attracting attention from co-workers. :-) Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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