why distance to the computer does not help?

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> I have really scrambled brains at the moment, this afternoon I was testing  
> the how much radiation was coming from a cluster of masts on a building
> near to  where I used to work, which came up a 2v/m in the street ! I then
> filled up with  petrol and drove off without paying the next I knew there was a
> man demanding  payment knocking at my window, second episode driving towards
> a collection of 3  masts which I always do and have little issue but then
> my head went  numb/rashy/itchy and my cognitive awareness changed in an
> instant, I stopped and  measured these at 1.5v/m but all along it was my son in
> the back seat  facebooking on his mobile right behind me !!!!  he has never
> done that  before and will nerve do it again !!!!!
>  
> Basically at the moment I only feel half here if you know what I mean -  
> recently came back from menorca, so maybe I am reaping the emf loading from
> that
>

>
> I have really scrambled brains at the moment, this afternoon I was testing
> the how much radiation was coming from a cluster of masts on a building
> near to  where I used to work, which came up a 2v/m in the street ! I then
> filled up with  petrol and drove off without paying the next I knew there was a
> man demanding  payment knocking at my window, second episode driving towards
> a collection of 3  masts which I always do and have little issue but then
> my head went  numb/rashy/itchy and my cognitive awareness changed in an
> instant, I stopped and  measured these at 1.5v/m but all along it was my son in
> the back seat  facebooking on his mobile right behind me !!!!  he has never
> done that  before and will nerve do it again !!!!!
>
> Basically at the moment I only feel half here if you know what I mean -
> recently came back from menorca, so maybe I am reaping the emf loading from
> that
>

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> I have really scrambled brains at the moment, this afternoon I was testing
> the how much radiation was coming from a cluster of masts on a building
> near to  where I used to work, which came up a 2v/m in the street ! I then
> filled up with  petrol and drove off without paying the next I knew there was a
> man demanding  payment knocking at my window, second episode driving towards
> a collection of 3  masts which I always do and have little issue but then
> my head went  numb/rashy/itchy and my cognitive awareness changed in an
> instant, I stopped and  measured these at 1.5v/m but all along it was my son in
> the back seat  facebooking on his mobile right behind me !!!!  he has never
> done that  before and will nerve do it again !!!!!
>
> Basically at the moment I only feel half here if you know what I mean -
> recently came back from menorca, so maybe I am reaping the emf loading from
> that
>

>>  so marc, is the radio measuring 'dirty electricity' -
>> electricity  that is escaping the wiring system in
>> a building, while the other  meters measure the
>> workings of machines and their electrical  systems?
>> that would make sense to me. stray electricity  
>> would make 'static' sounds, i would think...
>> an  amorphous kind of 'cloud' or "smog", a
>
> An AM radio is  showing you the radio frequency noise
> that is in the air, either due  to noise on the power lines
> or noise generated from  electronics.
>
> I suppose that using the word "dirty" just  confuses
> things for some people (as has been pointed out
> here  in the past).
>
>> the other - the EMF - in my experience -  has
>> more of an active, direct, piercing, stabbing,
>>  grabbing effect - stimulating nerves, just as it
>> stimulates wifi  receptors in appliances.
>
> Yes, there are other forms of EMF  -- lower
> frequency magnetic fields, no-frequency
> DC fields,  etc. that will not register anything
> on a radio, although they may  show up on
> a 50/60Hz Gauss meter.
>
>> Ii am  
>> thinking that water bottles might absorb the
>>  fog/smog/cloud of electricity from the wiring
>> system.
>  
> So far I've only seen claims that the water
> bottles work for  microwaves, which are
> pretty high up on the frequency spectrum
>  (and beyond the frequencies of an AM radio)
>
> Marc
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> This is what wifi sounds  like:
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> http://www.emfields.org/detectors/audio/wifi.mp3
>  
> And here are more example sound files:
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> http://www.emfields.org/detectors/acoustimeter.asp
>  
> Rolf
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> On Aug 20, 2013, at 4:49 PM, Patricia  Robinett wrote:
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> > do you have a laptop you can check  with... moving
> > it around until you find 'the spot' where it is  coming
> > from?
> > love, patricia
> >
>  > On Aug 20, 2013, at 5:07 AM, Rolf Muertter wrote:
> >
>  > > It's most likely wifi.
> > >
> > >  Rolf
> > >
> > >
> > > On Aug 20, 2013,  at 11:49 AM, paulpjc@... wrote:
> > >
> > >> I  have a cornet meter with sound upto 8ghz anyone know what

> > >> a 1 second click (2 separate  signals)
> > >>
> > >> puk
> >  >>
> > >>
> > >> In a message dated  8/19/2013 7:24:01 P.M. Dateline Standard Time,
> > >>  charles@... writes:
> > >>
> > >> Only on the  body.
> > >>
> > >> Greetings,
> >  >> Charles Claessens
> > >> www.milieuziektes.nl
>  > >> www.milieuziektes.be
> > >>  www.minderstraling.nl
> > >> www.hetbitje.nl
> >  >> checked by Emsisoft
> > >> ----- Original Message  -----
> > >> From: jpnordica
> > >> To: __eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) _

> > >> <charles@> wrote:
> > >>>  
> > >>> Sure,
> > >>>
> >  >>> special spectrumanalyser's like the Spectran NF.
> >  >>>
> > >>> Greetings,
> > >>>  Charles Claessens
> > >>> www.milieuziektes.nl
> >  >>> www.milieuziektes.be
> > >>>  www.minderstraling.nl
> > >>> www.hetbitje.nl
> >  >>> checked by Emsisoft
> > >>>
> >  >>>
> > >>> ----- Original Message -----
>  > >>> From: jpnordica
> > >>> To: __eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) _

> >  >>> Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 9:27 PM
> > >>>  Subject: [eSens] Re: why distance to the computer does not help?
> >  >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Are there  any meters that would measure there frequencies? Usually
> >  >> meters just measure low freqs and RFs.
> > >>>  
> > >>>
> > >>>
> >  >>> --- In __eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) _

> > >> <charles@> wrote:
> > >>>>  
> > >>>> It depends on the electronic parts used in the  monitor/TV
> > >>>> *Vorschaltgeraete* the jerries call  it.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The  frequencies are between 5kHz and 20-30MHz.
> > >>>>  
> > >>>> Greetings,
> > >>>>  Charles Claessens
> > >>>> www.milieuziektes.nl
>  > >>>> www.milieuziektes.be
> > >>>>  www.minderstraling.nl
> > >>>> www.hetbitje.nl
>  > >>>> checked by Emsisoft
> > >>>> -----  Original Message -----
> > >>>> From: Marc Martin  
> > >>>> To: __eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) _

> >  >> it's the
> > >>>> same kind of thing.
>  > >>>>
> > >>>> Marc
> >  >>>>
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>________________________________
> From: Patricia Robinett <[hidden email]>
>To: [hidden email]
>Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 10:01:35 PM
>Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: why distance to the computer does not help?
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>
>hmm... thanks, hud.
>i measured the electrical outlets
>here - they seem to have very high scores, so i think
>that they are spewing dirty electricity, but i can't
>measure it , outside the outlet or outside the wall
>with my emf meter.  ????????  at my condo
>the 'ambient' emf - the emf i could measure
>EVERYWHERE was usually 2 or higher??? 
>the "emf" was already overwhelmingly
>high and i had no concept yet of dirty electricity.
>i thought it was all one thing.  but now i am seeing
>that there can be low emf and still high dirty
>electricity.  :(  i wish this was simpler. 
>love, patricia 
>
>
>On Aug 21, 2013, at 8:43 PM, H J R wrote:
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>> "Dirty electricity" generates so-called dirty EMFs.  Clean EMFs would be comprised of pure, sinusoidal waveforms whereas dirty EMFs would have 'compound' waveforms (like square waves).  Whereas all dirty electricity produces EMFs, not all EMFs produce dirty electricity (i.e., harmonics, microsurges).
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>No, no, the mag fields are power frequency (I.e. in the realms  of the 50hz type although not sure exactly what frequency and this frequency has a bearing on coupling into effects on living cells - Goldsmith, Imperial College, London).
>
>Neil.
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>Sent from my HTC
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>Subject: [eSens] Re: Symptoms and  (was distance from computer)
>Date: Sat, Aug 24, 2013 13:48
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>Undoubtedly especially for long hauls
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>puk
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>In a message dated 8/23/2013 1:38:40 P.M. Dateline Standard Time,  
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>[hidden email] writes:
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>It may be due to the WiFi on board? After all you are travelling in an  
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>aluminum cylinder. It's messing with the central nervous  system.
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>From: "_nboxall@aol.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) " <_nboxall@aol.com_
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>(mailto:[hidden email]) >
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>To: _eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email])  
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>Sent:  Thursday, August 22, 2013 4:21 PM
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>Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Symptoms and  (was distance from computer)
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>All,
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>I have measured  200mG Power Magnetic Fields in every-day passenger planes
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>and on every  flight I've been on since I purchased a Trifield (excellent
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>for
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>power line  checking) Meter. Well - who knows - another cause of the
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>post-flight  numbness?
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>
>
>Neil
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>
>
>In a message dated 22/08/2013 04:17:45 GMT  Daylight Time,
>
>_judyl_nev@yahoo.com_ (mailto:[hidden email])  writes:
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>The  main symptoms I experience from EMFs are :
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>Anxiety...(like a mouse in  a snake cage)...
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>Increase in Heart Rate...
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>My brain "goes away"...  
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>Major balance problems.
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>I get weak, feel like I'm losing my mind, feel  like I'm going to do
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>something "crazy" - like run out of a store without  paying.... I also have
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>this
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>thing where my body feels like I'm plugged  into a charger, and it just
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>keeps
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>charging me up. It gets so severe I may  start to shake. At this point, I
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>have to get degaussed!
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>One of the  really frustrating parts of this is it's hard to be stable. You
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>can be  somewhere, feel perfectly fine, then get zapped... and it all comes
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>apart.  I developed panic attacks, and now don't drive. Too many times, I
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>left the  house being fine, then lose it after being in a harmful
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>environment. And  if you measure the fields in the car, you'll be
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>astounded.
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>It takes  some time for all systems to come back on line.
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>I believe a lot of  weird occurrances are happening because people are
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>zoned and don't know  it. Cars, being EMF hazards, might explain some car
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>accidents, children  having absolute meltdowns or anxiety in cars, and Road
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>Rage.
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>Here, where I  live, we've been experiencing an epidemic of car-pedestrian
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>accidents. If  it's not a DUI or texting thing, you have to wonder if the
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>drivers are  zoning out!
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>
>
>Judy
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>
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>(mailto:_eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) ) , paulpjc@...  
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>wrote:
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>> I have really scrambled brains at the moment, this  afternoon I was
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>testing
>
>> the how much radiation was coming from a  cluster of masts on a building
>
>> near to where I used to work, which  came up a 2v/m in the street ! I
>
>then
>
>> filled up with petrol and  drove off without paying the next I knew there
>
>was a
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>> man  demanding payment knocking at my window, second episode driving
>
>towards  
>
>> a collection of 3 masts which I always do and have little issue but  then
>
>> my head went numb/rashy/itchy and my cognitive awareness changed  in an
>
>> instant, I stopped and measured these at 1.5v/m but all along  it was my
>
>son in
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>> the back seat facebooking on his mobile right  behind me !!!! he has
>
>never
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>> done that before and will nerve do it  again !!!!!
>
>>
>
>> Basically at the moment I only feel half here if  you know what I mean -
>
>> recently came back from menorca, so maybe I am  reaping the emf loading
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>from
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