website

Hello,

there is information at:

http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina301.html

and

http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina401.html

With that I succeeded to reduce the sensitivity of my wife, who was a heavy electrosensitive person 5 years ago, with some 95%. She now lives a *normal* life, amidst a lot of elektrosmog in the city.

And I succeeded to raise also the immune system with other persons. They feel better.

Of course you will think that I am a quack, but the jerry's say: *Wer heilt hat recht!*.
(He who heals, is right!)

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
checked by Norton


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Hi Charles,
 
The work that you've been doing seems awesome.  I am unaware of your previous work, but if there is a way to learn more in English I am most certainly interested.  How can one in the U.S. obtain your Clae product?  It's hard to learn more when I don't understand the language.  I am glad that you have been successful.  Hopefully, we can expose this more globally.
 
One of my biggest problems is that I do not have a direct present means of removing all of my amalgams properly.  This is a huge problem.  Regular dentistry is very expensive, but even with insurance this is very expensive.  I wanted to get them removed even before I came down with EHS 3.5 years ago.  Money can be a big help if you have it.
 
Thanks again for the hopeful outlook and instructions.  Peace.  Pamela.

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From: charles <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] website
To: [hidden email]
Date: Saturday, October 1, 2011, 4:21 PM


 



Hello,

there is information at:

http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina301.html

and

http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina401.html

With that I succeeded to reduce the sensitivity of my wife, who was a heavy electrosensitive person 5 years ago, with some 95%. She now lives a *normal* life, amidst a lot of elektrosmog in the city.

And I succeeded to raise also the immune system with other persons. They feel better.

Of course you will think that I am a quack, but the jerry's say: *Wer heilt hat recht!*.
(He who heals, is right!)

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
checked by Norton

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Hello,

On your webpage:

http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina301.html

you seem to be saying that all of the body parameters that you have listed will be able "to be measured on the body in no time", in reaction to EMFs. How exactly will you go about doing that, as you have listed a lot of medical markers for different organs, etc.This would seem a lot of work?


Sean.

--- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@...> wrote:

Do you have any formal medical qualifications Charles or perhaps you have  
studied biology, biophysics and so on as you seem very ahead of the game ?
At  what stage will you present your revelations to the scientific community
for  double blind studies etc...
 
puk
 
 
In a message dated 07/10/2011 11:47:19 GMT Daylight Time,  
[hidden email] writes:

 
 
 


Hello,

On your webpage:

_http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina301.html_
(http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina301.html)

you  seem to be saying that all of the body parameters that you have listed
will be  able "to be measured on the body in no time", in reaction to EMFs.
How exactly  will you go about doing that, as you have listed a lot of
medical markers for  different organs, etc.This would seem a lot of work?

Sean.

---  In _eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) , "charles"  
<charles@...> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> there is  information at:
>
> _http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina301.html_
(http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina301.html)
>  
> and
>
> _http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina401.html_
(http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina401.html)
>  
> With that I succeeded to reduce the sensitivity of my wife, who was a  
heavy electrosensitive person 5 years ago, with some 95%. She now lives a  
*normal* life, amidst a lot of elektrosmog in the city.
>
> And I  succeeded to raise also the immune system with other persons. They
feel  better.
>
> Of course you will think that I am a quack, but the  jerry's say: *Wer
heilt hat recht!*.





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Well Paul,

is that neccessary?

The persons who studied that don't understand electrosensitivity.

When I offer you a new gizmo, for free, to test it, while others are very positive about it, and you refuse.
You want first medical proof?
I have.

But for you it is of no use.
You can stay with your own doctor, and keep suffering.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
checked by Norton

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: [hidden email]
  To: [hidden email]
  Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 4:13 PM
  Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: website


  Do you have any formal medical qualifications Charles or perhaps you have  
  studied biology, biophysics and so on as you seem very ahead of the game ?
  At  what stage will you present your revelations to the scientific community
  for  double blind studies etc...
   
  puk
   
   
  In a message dated 07/10/2011 11:47:19 GMT Daylight Time,  
  [hidden email] writes:

   
   
   


  Hello,

  On your webpage:

  _http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina301.html_
  (http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina301.html)

  you  seem to be saying that all of the body parameters that you have listed
  will be  able "to be measured on the body in no time", in reaction to EMFs.
  How exactly  will you go about doing that, as you have listed a lot of
  medical markers for  different organs, etc.This would seem a lot of work?

  Sean.

  ---  In _eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) , "charles"  
  <charles@...> wrote:
  >
  > Hello,
  >
  > there is  information at:
  >
  > _http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina301.html_
  (http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina301.html)
  >  
  > and
  >
  > _http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina401.html_
  (http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina401.html)
  >  
  > With that I succeeded to reduce the sensitivity of my wife, who was a  
  heavy electrosensitive person 5 years ago, with some 95%. She now lives a  
  *normal* life, amidst a lot of elektrosmog in the city.
  >
  > And I  succeeded to raise also the immune system with other persons. They
  feel  better.
  >
  > Of course you will think that I am a quack, but the  jerry's say: *Wer
  heilt hat recht!*.
  > (He who heals, is right!)
  >  
  > Greetings,
  > Charles Claessens
  > member Verband  Baubiologie
  > www.milieuziektes.nl
  > www.milieuziektes.be
  >  www.hetbitje.nl
  > checked by Norton
  >
  >
  > [Non-text  portions of this message have been removed]
  >






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Hello Sean,

the machine *reads* and the computer spits out the data.

Of course for evaluation, one has to read carefully.
There are given tolerances, where you are supposed to be within.
And when you are outside, there are grades of severity.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
checked by Norton


  ----- Original Message -----
  From: seandaly33
  To: [hidden email]
  Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 12:47 PM
  Subject: [eSens] Re: website







  Hello,

  On your webpage:

  http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina301.html

  you seem to be saying that all of the body parameters that you have listed will be able "to be measured on the body in no time", in reaction to EMFs. How exactly will you go about doing that, as you have listed a lot of medical markers for different organs, etc.This would seem a lot of work?


  Sean.

  --- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@...> wrote:
  >
  > Hello,
  >
  > there is information at:
  >
  > http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina301.html
  >
  > and
  >
  > http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina401.html
  >
  > With that I succeeded to reduce the sensitivity of my wife, who was a heavy electrosensitive person 5 years ago, with some 95%. She now lives a *normal* life, amidst a lot of elektrosmog in the city.
  >
  > And I succeeded to raise also the immune system with other persons. They feel better.
  >
  > Of course you will think that I am a quack, but the jerry's say: *Wer heilt hat recht!*.
  > (He who heals, is right!)
  >
  > Greetings,
  > Charles Claessens
  > member Verband Baubiologie
  > www.milieuziektes.nl
  > www.milieuziektes.be
  > www.hetbitje.nl
  > checked by Norton
  >
  >
  > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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I feel weird taking about this but. I have high hopes as these movement sensations I've had for a year are slowly going away! I had an evening w hardly any.

I wondered if I had morgellans or it's a lot of parasites. Reg. doc.s have no idea.

Have any of you did a cleansing for parasites followed by a liver flush? 

I'm working on parasite cleansing w 3 weeks supply of 2 homeopathic remedies, given bya good alternative doc. He tested me w an EAV,. Improvements w the EAV in meridians determined the remedies.

Look at this long list of foods that feed parasites.
http://www.drclark.net/en/hulda_clark/parasites/parasites_food.php

Anyone have advice on diet? Looks like all grains & my vitamin w D3 are out until I get the all clear. .

Any advice on liver flushing?  How do you keep the nausea

down after 1/2 cup of  olive oil? How do you sleep while doing it?

I'll can call  their office but wanted to ask.

Thanks, Kathy






 










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We are blessed to have Dr. Yu here. Here's  his webiste if anyone would like to buy his book. I think he's good. Many cures of cancer occurred. He does chelation as well.


http://preventionandhealing.com/

Kathy


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Who says you have to  todown 1/2 cup of olive oil?
You are mistaken.

You have to mix 1/2 cup of olive oil + 1/2 a cup of pressed grape fruit juice.
We do that in en ampty jaqm jar with a lid on.
You can shake it, and than drink it, or swallow ot with a straw.

I hate the bittersalt, especially not at 6 but at 8 o'clock in the morning.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
checked by Norton

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: KathyB
  To: [hidden email]
  Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 6:00 PM
  Subject: [eSens] Parasite cleansing



  I feel weird taking about this but. I have high hopes as these movement sensations I've had for a year are slowly going away! I had an evening w hardly any.

  I wondered if I had morgellans or it's a lot of parasites. Reg. doc.s have no idea.

  Have any of you did a cleansing for parasites followed by a liver flush?

  I'm working on parasite cleansing w 3 weeks supply of 2 homeopathic remedies, given bya good alternative doc. He tested me w an EAV,. Improvements w the EAV in meridians determined the remedies.

  Look at this long list of foods that feed parasites.
  http://www.drclark.net/en/hulda_clark/parasites/parasites_food.php

  Anyone have advice on diet? Looks like all grains & my vitamin w D3 are out until I get the all clear. .

  Any advice on liver flushing? How do you keep the nausea

  down after 1/2 cup of olive oil? How do you sleep while doing it?

  I'll can call their office but wanted to ask.

  Thanks, Kathy






   










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Charles, Thanks for responding.

I can't handle grape fruit juice.  Have you ever tried it t w lemon?

I'm sure epsom salts in water taste bad.

Kathy
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From: charles <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Parasite cleansing

















 



 


   
     
     
      Who says you have to  todown 1/2 cup of olive oil?

You are mistaken.



You have to mix 1/2 cup of olive oil + 1/2 a cup of pressed grape fruit juice.

We do that in en ampty jaqm jar with a lid on.

You can shake it, and than drink it, or swallow ot with a straw.



I hate the bittersalt, especially not at 6 but at 8 o'clock in the morning.



Greetings,

Charles Claessens

member Verband Baubiologie

www.milieuziektes.nl

www.milieuziektes.be

www.hetbitje.nl

checked by Norton



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> I can't handle grape fruit juice.  Have you ever tried it t w lemon?

You can do a liver flush with fresh-squeezed lemon juice.  That was
the only way I did it.

I don't think I had much of a sense of taste when I started doing
liver flushes, because they didn't seem that bad.  When I tried
to another one years later, the taste was awful!

Marc

  I think I'll save to get  the Fscan Rife compact for Christmas. I'm thankful you're working on software/programs for everyone. I'll get the Ayda drops as well.

Thanks so much on the protocol on your site. Are most of the books mentioned in German only? I found a wonderful Rife practioner, I can show your info. to. He wants to help.

Congratulations for healing your wife.

Thanks again, Kathy 



--- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@...> wrote:

>

> Hello,

>

> there is information at:

>

> http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina301.html

>

> and

>

> http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina401.html

>

> With that I succeeded to reduce the sensitivity of my wife, who was a heavy electrosensitive person 5 years ago, with some 95%. She now lives a *normal* life, amidst a lot of elektrosmog in the city.

>

> And I succeeded to raise also the immune system with other persons. They feel better.

>

> Of course you will think that I am a quack, but the jerry's say: *Wer heilt hat recht!*.

> (He who heals, is right!)

>

> Greetings,

> Charles Claessens

> member Verband Baubiologie

> www.milieuziektes.nl

> www.milieuziektes.be

> www.hetbitje.nl

> checked by Norton

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>





   
     

   
   






 










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Thanks Marc,

I have some other questions. My doc recommends a1 qt. of straight t or diluted apple juice w ultra phos liquid & malic acid caps for 3 days & then flushing w 1/2 cup olive oil

I'd like to hear how you did it w lemon juice.

Thanks, Kathy



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From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Parasite cleansing

You can do a liver flush with fresh-squeezed lemon juice.  That was

the only way I did it.



I don't think I had much of a sense of taste when I started doing

liver flushes, because they didn't seem that bad.  When I tried

to another one years later, the taste was awful!



Marc



   
     

   
   






 










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Hi, Kathy!

I told you my story with what I thought was morgellans before (I accidently killed it by using a natural pesticide on fleas which got inside my house from my neighbor's dogs.)  The pesticides worked like a charm, but made my mast cells go bonkers and then I had other huge, potentially worse health problems.   


It might also be a mold problem, Kathy.  I had a similar experience later with a bad mold incident (even tho I was only present at that house a few minutes).  That time, tho, I went straight home and put coconut oil all over my skin.  I then took all sorts of natural killers--oregano oil, coconut oil, monolaurin beads (also coconut), garlic oil, cinnamon oil, grapefruit seed extract, cloves, anise, lemon, peppermint essential oil.....  I just went thru my pantry and rounded up all that I could find that I knew had killing properties and took one after another, initially 10 or 15 mins apart for the first 4, and then (since I was having problems keeping these down, I drew it out to every 30 mins to 1 hour, as needed.  I kept taking these for 2 days, rotating them.  When I quit the symptoms were gone.  I doubt this will work for problems you have had a long time tho, unless you would do it diligently for months.  :( 


I also did homeopathic killing for parasitic conditions that I had had for many years.  I rotated foods for 2 years, not eating particular foods for 6 months at a time; and yes, I was dairy-free and grain-free for one year of that, and sugar-free, sugar alcohol-free, gluten-free, and yeast-free for the entire time.  (I am celiac, so I have never eaten glutens again.)  I also limited fruits to 5 or 6 berries, plus a tablespoon of lemon per day.


Charles is right--you mix the oil with grapefruit juice.  Still difficult but drink slowly while focusing your thoughts on something else (like where you are going to go when you feel better!)  Sudoku also works.  ;)


Good luck.  Its not fun, but necessary to feel better! 

Diane




________________________________
From: KathyB <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Friday, October 7, 2011 12:00 PM
Subject: [eSens] Parasite cleansing


 

I feel weird taking about this but. I have high hopes as these movement sensations I've had for a year are slowly going away! I had an evening w hardly any.

I wondered if I had morgellans or it's a lot of parasites. Reg. doc.s have no idea.

Have any of you did a cleansing for parasites followed by a liver flush? 

I'm working on parasite cleansing w 3 weeks supply of 2 homeopathic remedies, given bya good alternative doc. He tested me w an EAV,. Improvements w the EAV in meridians determined the remedies.

Look at this long list of foods that feed parasites.
http://www.drclark.net/en/hulda_clark/parasites/parasites_food.php

Anyone have advice on diet? Looks like all grains & my vitamin w D3 are out until I get the all clear. .

Any advice on liver flushing?  How do you keep the nausea

down after 1/2 cup of  olive oil? How do you sleep while doing it?

I'll can call  their office but wanted to ask.

Thanks, Kathy

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I should have said, tell me about the protocol for flushing w lemon juice. Sounds more painless. 
 

Kathy



From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Re: [eSens] Parasite cleansing

















 



 


   
     
     
      > I can't handle grape fruit juice.  Have you ever tried it t w lemon?



You can do a liver flush with fresh-squeezed lemon juice.  That was

the only way I did it.



I don't think I had much of a sense of taste when I started doing

liver flushes, because they didn't seem that bad.  When I tried

to another one years later, the taste was awful!



Marc



   
     

   
   






 










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Wow, I remember you telling me about the pesticide experience. Had to be awful.

I have  damage from living in  a moldy rental. I don't know what this all is.  I'm concerned about the nausea & how to sleep that night. I'll do it to feel better. They explained somethings in the liver, we need to release.  Could be a combination of gallbladder stones, & parasites,, or something else, we don't know. They said I could take Ginger that night.

 I need to work on my diet as well. I had a habit of giving in to potato chips. Feeds yeast & worse.

Kathy
From: Evie <[hidden email]>
 Re: [eSens] Parasite cleansing
















 



 


   
     
     
      Hi, Kathy!



I told you my story with what I thought was morgellans before (I accidently killed it by using a natural pesticide on fleas which got inside my house from my neighbor's dogs.)  The pesticides worked like a charm, but made my mast cells go bonkers and then I had other huge, potentially worse health problems.   



It might also be a mold problem, Kathy.  I had a similar experience later with a bad mold incident (even tho I was only present at that house a few minutes).  That time, tho, I went straight home and put coconut oil all over my skin.  I then took all sorts of natural killers--oregano oil, coconut oil, monolaurin beads (also coconut), garlic oil, cinnamon oil, grapefruit seed extract, cloves, anise, lemon, peppermint essential oil.....  I just went thru my pantry and rounded up all that I could find that I knew had killing properties and took one after another, initially 10 or 15 mins apart for the first 4, and then (since I was having problems keeping these down, I drew it out to every 30 mins to 1 hour, as needed.  I kept taking these for 2 days, rotating them.  When I quit the symptoms were gone.  I doubt this will work for problems you have had a long time tho, unless you would do it diligently for months.  :( 



I also did homeopathic killing for parasitic conditions that I had had for many years.  I rotated foods for 2 years, not eating particular foods for 6 months at a time; and yes, I was dairy-free and grain-free for one year of that, and sugar-free, sugar alcohol-free, gluten-free, and yeast-free for the entire time.  (I am celiac, so I have never eaten glutens again.)  I also limited fruits to 5 or 6 berries, plus a tablespoon of lemon per day.



Charles is right--you mix the oil with grapefruit juice.  Still difficult but drink slowly while focusing your thoughts on something else (like where you are going to go when you feel better!)  Sudoku also works.  ;)



Good luck.  Its not fun, but necessary to feel better! 



Diane



________________________________

From: KathyB <[hidden email]>

To: [hidden email]

Sent: Friday, October 7, 2011 12:00 PM

Subject: [eSens] Parasite cleansing



 



I feel weird taking about this but. I have high hopes as these movement sensations I've had for a year are slowly going away! I had an evening w hardly any.



I wondered if I had morgellans or it's a lot of parasites. Reg. doc.s have no idea.



Have any of you did a cleansing for parasites followed by a liver flush? 



I'm working on parasite cleansing w 3 weeks supply of 2 homeopathic remedies, given bya good alternative doc. He tested me w an EAV,. Improvements w the EAV in meridians determined the remedies.



Look at this long list of foods that feed parasites.

http://www.drclark.net/en/hulda_clark/parasites/parasites_food.php



Anyone have advice on diet? Looks like all grains & my vitamin w D3 are out until I get the all clear. .



Any advice on liver flushing?  How do you keep the nausea



down after 1/2 cup of  olive oil? How do you sleep while doing it?



I'll can call  their office but wanted to ask.



Thanks, Kathy



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> I should have said, tell me about the protocol for flushing w lemon juice. Sounds more painless. 

I'm not sure there is just *one* protocol... I just used whatever
was in a book written by Hulda Clark.  

I'm sure there are all sorts of "liver flush" protocols out there
on the web, that may or may not include fasting beforehand,
drinking apple juice beforehand, etc.

Marc

> > I should have said, tell me about the protocol for flushing w lemon juice. Sounds more painless. 

Actually, maybe I misunderstood your question --
there is no protocol with JUST lemon juice.  The
protocol is lemon juice PLUS olive oil.  So this
wouldn't really be any more painless than the
grapefruit juice plus olive oil.

Marc

I think I'll try the olive oil w lemon juice.
I have a few weeks to finish these remedies 1st.
I guess it's not a big deal. It's just that I've never done it before

Kathy
From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Liver flush
















 



 


   
     
     
      > > I should have said, tell me about the protocol for flushing w lemon juice. Sounds more painless. 



Actually, maybe I misunderstood your question --

there is no protocol with JUST lemon juice.  The

protocol is lemon juice PLUS olive oil.  So this

wouldn't really be any more painless than the

grapefruit juice plus olive oil.



Marc



   
     

   
   






 










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Realize that when you do a "liver flush" or gall stone flush, you are pumping your gall bladder so it will expel stones out the bile duct and some liver pathways. Stones and mostly particles, debris, dead matter, WILL be deposited throughout the duct system and may be lodged if the stones aren't softened enough by 4 or 5 days of apple juice or stone softener (Phos drops).
If you have yellow eyes the week after the flush, you probably blocked the tubes and bilirubin is building up in your system.

Make sure you do some sort of bug killing (colloidal silver, ozonate the olive oil for 30-45 minutes prior to ingestion, etc) with this flush as the stones will break up/dissolve on the way out and may/will get lodged in the intestines or colon.

Do lots of magnesium a day or two before the flush to get the colon entirely empty and then again afterwards to get the colon flushed out. Getting a colonic is even better to wash the debris out.

The whole reason for this rant is, after doing about 6 or 7 liver flushes, I've learned they aren't so simple as touted.
Clean the system out before and afterwards. You'll need to do 2 or 3 to get all the stones over a few months and then the stones will come back in a few years. Annual flushes are best so you catch the stones as they are small.

There are many recipes online. Be smart.

with love,
Andrew

On Oct 7, 2011, at 3:16 PM, KathyB wrote: