skin lesions to face

I have posted 2 photos of my ugly mug (in part) to show the lesions
that I develop on my cheeks and temples when exposed to flourescent
lights and computer screens I also get small sore white pussy spots at
sebacious gland zones which appear within a couple of hours of what I
feel/know as high exposure to emr. I wont mention what happens when I
used an ordinary phone let alone a mobile!
I also have a discernable lump in the mastoid area behind my left ear
which becomes more achey after such exposure (possibly due to increased
muscle tension due to stress imposed by es symptoms) ironically I have
bi lateral tinitus which is much worse in the right ear ! constant high
pitch which more recently has another overlay that ossilates/woors at
higher pitch and changes pitch. My med notes detail the former as being
due to loss of hearing at 4000hz ? All the above symptoms which are
just the tip of the melting iceberg have been exacerbated by taking on
a new contract which involves driving and computer/officework.

HELP ! my money or my health what is it to be ? I am sure that you can
understand the depressing feeling of not being able to get on with your
life when you are on the ES tether ! I am highly trained/experienced at
my work and have a great desire to do my best but every time I try to
pick myself up and do what I am good at I find myself scuppered once
again as to sit in a flourescent lighted office in from of a pc is
after a short while as good as torture to me !! A simple request from
my newly aquired boss asking me to spend a whole day in the office to
sort some work out makes me loss the will to live(well not quite) again
even though the job is contract I find myself getting ready to tell my
boss "i have got something to tell you" and its anyones guess what
happens next!

P

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> I am highly trained/experienced at
> my work and have a great desire to do my best but every time I try to
> pick myself up and do what I am good at I find myself scuppered once
> again as to sit in a flourescent lighted office in from of a pc is
> after a short while as good as torture to me !!

Have you had a look at some of the discussions which have been taking
place in the past week? It seems like there have been at least 20
suggestions for things that could be done to increase tolerance
to PCs and florescent lights.

Also, do you have a lot of metal dental work, or metal on your body
(wire-frame glasses, belt buckle, keys in your pocket, etc.).
Getting rid of as much metal as possible should provide some help.

Marc

----I wonder if anybody has tried any kind of floor mats that can effectively neutralize ground currents? If so, what kind did you try and did any of them work? Which ones were the best? I have a room with all my satellite receivers inside a faraday cage. Other equipment as well, such as computers, also inside metal boxes up off the floor and grounded. Still, I sense a ground current when walking on the floor of that room. Any other suggestions besides floor mats are welcome.
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It depends on what is causing the sensation that you are experiencing:

electrcic field?
magnetic field?
RF/MW?
something else?

It is easy to shield electric fields with any condutive material, properly
grounded.
RF and magnetic fields may require a more sophisticated approach.

I would suggest that you begin with an appropriate meter and make a
diagnosis of what type of field is present, and what is the source. This
will permit you to design the proper "treatment" with predictable results.

Best regards,

Emil DeToffol
Less EMF Inc. (www.lessemf.com)
tel: +1-518-432-1550
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Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 3:05 PM
Subject: [eSens] floor mats


>
> ----I wonder if anybody has tried any kind of floor mats that can
effectively neutralize ground currents? If so, what kind did you try and
did any of them work? Which ones were the best? I have a room with all my
satellite receivers inside a faraday cage. Other equipment as well, such
as computers, also inside metal boxes up off the floor and grounded. Still,
I sense a ground current when walking on the floor of that room. Any other
suggestions besides floor mats are welcome.
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Thanks for the response. I only have a trifield meter. I placed it on the floor in the area where my feet rest in that room. No readings of any kind. I placed it next to my equipment and I only get high magnetic fields. When I sit at the desk that is in that room where all my equipment, spare computer is at I start to feel a burning in my feet and I instinctively lift them off the floor and put them under me on the chair. I'm not sure where it is coming from, what it is exactly. The receivers in that room pull in signals from all my satellite dishes. There may be some microwave as well as magnetic. The monitor in that room is an LED. I think that is electric field, right? So I may be getting something of all kinds here. Maybe my trifield just can't pick them up. But with everything on in that room I only get magnetic field readings from my equipment. No microwave or electric at all. Still, my feet tell me I'm getting something. If it were magnetic field would it be able to spread across the floor like that? Do they make any products for magnetic fields that you can put on the floor? Thanks.
----- Original Message -----
From: Less EMF Inc.
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] floor mats


It depends on what is causing the sensation that you are experiencing:

electrcic field?
magnetic field?
RF/MW?
something else?

It is easy to shield electric fields with any condutive material, properly
grounded.
RF and magnetic fields may require a more sophisticated approach.

I would suggest that you begin with an appropriate meter and make a
diagnosis of what type of field is present, and what is the source. This
will permit you to design the proper "treatment" with predictable results.

Best regards,

Emil DeToffol
Less EMF Inc. (www.lessemf.com)
tel: +1-518-432-1550
e-mail: [hidden email]



----- Original Message -----
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To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 3:05 PM
Subject: [eSens] floor mats


>
> ----I wonder if anybody has tried any kind of floor mats that can
effectively neutralize ground currents? If so, what kind did you try and
did any of them work? Which ones were the best? I have a room with all my
satellite receivers inside a faraday cage. Other equipment as well, such
as computers, also inside metal boxes up off the floor and grounded. Still,
I sense a ground current when walking on the floor of that room. Any other
suggestions besides floor mats are welcome.
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OK, if the meter tell you there is no field present, you might want to
consider other reasons for the symptoms.

Emil

----- Original Message -----
From: "straitguy" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 5:40 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] floor mats


> Thanks for the response. I only have a trifield meter. I placed it on
the floor in the area where my feet rest in that room. No readings of any
kind. I placed it next to my equipment and I only get high magnetic fields.
When I sit at the desk that is in that room where all my equipment, spare
computer is at I start to feel a burning in my feet and I instinctively lift
them off the floor and put them under me on the chair. I'm not sure where
it is coming from, what it is exactly. The receivers in that room pull in
signals from all my satellite dishes. There may be some microwave as well
as magnetic. The monitor in that room is an LED. I think that is electric
field, right? So I may be getting something of all kinds here. Maybe my
trifield just can't pick them up. But with everything on in that room I
only get magnetic field readings from my equipment. No microwave or
electric at all. Still, my feet tell me I'm getting something. If it were
magnetic field would it be able to spread across the floor like that? Do
they make any products for magnetic fields that you can put on the floor?
Thanks. properly
> grounded.
> RF and magnetic fields may require a more sophisticated approach.
>
> I would suggest that you begin with an appropriate meter and make a
> diagnosis of what type of field is present, and what is the source. This
> will permit you to design the proper "treatment" with predictable
results. and
> did any of them work? Which ones were the best? I have a room with all
my
> satellite receivers inside a faraday cage. Other equipment as well,
such
> as computers, also inside metal boxes up off the floor and grounded.
Still,
> I sense a ground current when walking on the floor of that room. Any
other
> suggestions besides floor mats are welcome.
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Thanks for the info. But I'll do my own thinking. It is something electrical if it only happens in that room where my equipment is at. If you have a product I'm willing to hear about that.
----- Original Message -----
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To: [hidden email]
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 10:42 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] floor mats


OK, if the meter tell you there is no field present, you might want to
consider other reasons for the symptoms.

Emil

----- Original Message -----
From: "straitguy" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 5:40 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] floor mats


> Thanks for the response. I only have a trifield meter. I placed it on
the floor in the area where my feet rest in that room. No readings of any
kind. I placed it next to my equipment and I only get high magnetic fields.
When I sit at the desk that is in that room where all my equipment, spare
computer is at I start to feel a burning in my feet and I instinctively lift
them off the floor and put them under me on the chair. I'm not sure where
it is coming from, what it is exactly. The receivers in that room pull in
signals from all my satellite dishes. There may be some microwave as well
as magnetic. The monitor in that room is an LED. I think that is electric
field, right? So I may be getting something of all kinds here. Maybe my
trifield just can't pick them up. But with everything on in that room I
only get magnetic field readings from my equipment. No microwave or
electric at all. Still, my feet tell me I'm getting something. If it were
magnetic field would it be able to spread across the floor like that? Do
they make any products for magnetic fields that you can put on the floor?
Thanks. properly
> grounded.
> RF and magnetic fields may require a more sophisticated approach.
>
> I would suggest that you begin with an appropriate meter and make a
> diagnosis of what type of field is present, and what is the source. This
> will permit you to design the proper "treatment" with predictable
results. and
> did any of them work? Which ones were the best? I have a room with all
my
> satellite receivers inside a faraday cage. Other equipment as well,
such
> as computers, also inside metal boxes up off the floor and grounded.
Still,
> I sense a ground current when walking on the floor of that room. Any
other
> suggestions besides floor mats are welcome.
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Here's the problem: if the meter reads zero, then what type of shielding is
appropriate? Electric? Magnetic? RF? On what basis will you choose? And how
will you know where to position it?

Do you get the symptoms in that room with all the equipment turned off?
Do you get the symptoms in that room with all the power in the house turned
off?

Emil

----- Original Message -----
From: "straitguy" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 2:06 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] floor mats


> Thanks for the info. But I'll do my own thinking. It is something
electrical if it only happens in that room where my equipment is at. If you
have a product I'm willing to hear about that. on
> the floor in the area where my feet rest in that room. No readings of
any
> kind. I placed it next to my equipment and I only get high magnetic
fields.
> When I sit at the desk that is in that room where all my equipment,
spare
> computer is at I start to feel a burning in my feet and I instinctively
lift
> them off the floor and put them under me on the chair. I'm not sure
where
> it is coming from, what it is exactly. The receivers in that room pull
in
> signals from all my satellite dishes. There may be some microwave as
well
> as magnetic. The monitor in that room is an LED. I think that is
electric
> field, right? So I may be getting something of all kinds here. Maybe
my
> trifield just can't pick them up. But with everything on in that room I
> only get magnetic field readings from my equipment. No microwave or
> electric at all. Still, my feet tell me I'm getting something. If it
were
> magnetic field would it be able to spread across the floor like that?
Do
> they make any products for magnetic fields that you can put on the
floor?
> Thanks.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Less EMF Inc.
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 2:29 PM
> > Subject: Re: [eSens] floor mats
> >
> >
> > It depends on what is causing the sensation that you are
experiencing: This can
> > effectively neutralize ground currents? If so, what kind did you
try
> and
> > did any of them work? Which ones were the best? I have a room with
all
> my
> > satellite receivers inside a faraday cage. Other equipment as well,
> such
> > as computers, also inside metal boxes up off the floor and grounded.
> Still,
> > I sense a ground current when walking on the floor of that room.
Any
> other
> > suggestions besides floor mats are welcome.
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Hey,

You may wanna try tachyonized insoles.. Have a feeling they may help a lot of us.. Tachyon seems not all that popular here, but i do feel the various products i have used played an important part in my recovery.. They do not just shield, they help in repairing energetical damage..

(not even listing my site anymore, since people then think oooh she sells it...the addresses are on the main page of e-sens)

Love

straitguy <[hidden email]> wrote:
Thanks for the info. But I'll do my own thinking. It is something electrical if it only happens in that room where my equipment is at. If you have a product I'm willing to hear about that.
----- Original Message -----
From: Less EMF Inc.
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 10:42 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] floor mats


OK, if the meter tell you there is no field present, you might want to
consider other reasons for the symptoms.

Emil

----- Original Message -----
From: "straitguy" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 5:40 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] floor mats


> Thanks for the response. I only have a trifield meter. I placed it on
the floor in the area where my feet rest in that room. No readings of any
kind. I placed it next to my equipment and I only get high magnetic fields.
When I sit at the desk that is in that room where all my equipment, spare
computer is at I start to feel a burning in my feet and I instinctively lift
them off the floor and put them under me on the chair. I'm not sure where
it is coming from, what it is exactly. The receivers in that room pull in
signals from all my satellite dishes. There may be some microwave as well
as magnetic. The monitor in that room is an LED. I think that is electric
field, right? So I may be getting something of all kinds here. Maybe my
trifield just can't pick them up. But with everything on in that room I
only get magnetic field readings from my equipment. No microwave or
electric at all. Still, my feet tell me I'm getting something. If it were
magnetic field would it be able to spread across the floor like that? Do
they make any products for magnetic fields that you can put on the floor?
Thanks. properly
> grounded.
> RF and magnetic fields may require a more sophisticated approach.
>
> I would suggest that you begin with an appropriate meter and make a
> diagnosis of what type of field is present, and what is the source. This
> will permit you to design the proper "treatment" with predictable
results. and
> did any of them work? Which ones were the best? I have a room with all
my
> satellite receivers inside a faraday cage. Other equipment as well,
such
> as computers, also inside metal boxes up off the floor and grounded.
Still,
> I sense a ground current when walking on the floor of that room. Any
other
> suggestions besides floor mats are welcome.
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Hey straitguy,

You're right. Even if a typical meter doesn't pick up an EM field in
a particular region, that doesn't rule out EM-related causes.

I don't know of any purchasable meter that measures the magnetic
vector potential (MVP) in an area, but the MVP has been well
documented to exert very real EM effects in regions where NO magnetic
field exists.

It's called the Magnetic Aharonov-Bohm effect and experiments by
Osakabe and others proved it in the 80s. (There is an analogous
Electric Aharonov-Bohm effect in regions with NO electric field.) In
the case of the MVP, it's strength and effect tapers off much more
slowly than magnetic fields. So even if a magnetic field isn't near
you, its corresponding MVP could affect the electromagnetic situation
around you.

-Beau

--- In [hidden email], "straitguy" <straitguy@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the info. But I'll do my own thinking. It is something
electrical if it only happens in that room where my equipment is at.
If you have a product I'm willing to hear about that.  

I empathize about wanting to do what you'd like to do, and not be
able to.
I'd sure hope some employer would be willing to exchange fluorescent
lighting for incandescant.

I don't know if this will be helpful, but perhaps. Fluorescent
lighting destroys vitamin A in your body. Skin outbreaks being one
symptom. Nails that peel easy is another sign of deficiency.
(Fingernails can evidence many deficiencies.)

Anyhow, large doses of A (not just carotenoids) for about a month
might bring significant relief, in that aspect anyhow.

~ Snoshoe

--- In [hidden email], "espaules" <espaules@...> wrote:
>
> I have posted 2 photos of my ugly mug (in part) to show the lesions
> that I develop on my cheeks and temples when exposed to flourescent
> lights and computer screens I also get small sore white pussy spots
at
> sebacious gland zones which appear within a couple of hours of what
I
> feel/know as high exposure to emr. I wont mention what happens
when I
> used an ordinary phone let alone a mobile!
> I also have a discernable lump in the mastoid area behind my left
ear
> which becomes more achey after such exposure (possibly due to
increased
> muscle tension due to stress imposed by es symptoms) ironically I
have
> bi lateral tinitus which is much worse in the right ear ! constant
high
> pitch which more recently has another overlay that ossilates/woors
at
> higher pitch and changes pitch. My med notes detail the former as
being
> due to loss of hearing at 4000hz ? All the above symptoms which
are
> just the tip of the melting iceberg have been exacerbated by taking
on
> a new contract which involves driving and computer/officework.
>
> HELP ! my money or my health what is it to be ? I am sure that you
can
> understand the depressing feeling of not being able to get on with
your
> life when you are on the ES tether ! I am highly
trained/experienced at
> my work and have a great desire to do my best but every time I try
to
> pick myself up and do what I am good at I find myself scuppered
once
> again as to sit in a flourescent lighted office in from of a pc is
> after a short while as good as torture to me !! A simple request
from
> my newly aquired boss asking me to spend a whole day in the office
to
> sort some work out makes me loss the will to live(well not quite)
again
> even though the job is contract I find myself getting ready to tell
my
> boss "i have got something to tell you" and its anyones guess what
> happens next!
>
> P
>

I'd want that out if it in my teeth. :) Then again, there's still
plenty metal I need out, and almost can't wait, but it will have to
till later this year.

Did you see Rachel's post not far back. She's looking for a roommate
to share a safer house. Don't know how close you both are in the UK.
I think that's where you are?

What about plastering the wall towards your neighbor with lots of
aluminum foil to help?  

I do agree, many experiments going on, besides all the factors we
just haven't learned about yet.

~ Snoshoe

--- In [hidden email], "m.a.norman" <m.a.norman@...> wrote:
>
> Have you checked your dental x-rays, and taken digital photos of
them
> which you can zoom into? They may reveal a multitude of sins.
>
> I posted a digital photograph I took of my dental x-ray. It's my
tooth
> root which are quite clear. The dentist who did this was in at a
> practise at a place called Leicester when she filled two roots. As
you
> can see one of these 'foreign bodies' is placed almost at the end
of the
> tooth root and the other is alongside it further up on the upper
jaw. I've
> thought many times of the occasion when she was working on this root
> filling when she kept taking me back and forth to x-ray room. She
seemed
> very excited.as she did it. And yes I did complain both verbally
and in
> writing. Then I paid my bill for this!
>
> It is these things that were put on my tooth root and in my upper
jaw
> that I believe have caused me so many problems over the years with
> severe tinnitus that has, at times, been totally disabling.
>
> And now we have a dentist problem here which we never had as
> over the past few years dentists here in the UK have left their
practices
> in droves so that now many people no longer have a dentist. And
it's
> so bad as they leave foreign dentist are taking their place.
>
> I don't believe I'm unique by any means and, who in the future,
will be
> responsible for what is being put into the fillings and tooth roots
of
> unsuspecting people, as the dentist who did these things have moved
on?
>
> This, combined with a 'neighbour' situation I have is at times
unbearable.
> Every room in my home is affected one way or another and I'm not
only
> getting pollution coming through from next door into my home, but
also
> radiation that leaves me with 'sunburn', also high levels of emf
that I
> now believe are created when whatever technology it is they're using
> is run, which goes through my home in surges even when the electric
is
> switched off at the mains. When it's bad it leaves me in great
pain and
> I've found that each time it's done now (I have a TriField meter
that
> is able to monitor the emf), it gets worse.
>
> I believe many of us here are suffering from experimentation which
is
> now known about and condoned. Without any thought for our human
> rights to live in our home and community in peace.
>
> Maureen
>

> I empathize about wanting to do what you'd like to do, and not be
> able to. I'd sure hope some employer would be willing to exchange
> fluorescent lighting for incandescant.

There are ways to overcome the problems of florescent lighting
without having to exchange the lights for something else.
At least for me, the stuff from Quantum Products is very
effective against florescent lights.

Marc

Hey Maureen,

Do this anyway.. against /// better../ooohh

Me i felt about the dentist at put in the amalgams, like he did it, like he enjoyed it.. Did not stop it was too little,, Also feel i did not need them (hey them spots are from smoking dude..a later dentist said the creases are deep in my teeth and it just looks like holes// i kinda know it was not even decay, shit i saw someone with decay this was not it)

Then my braces, same guy, and had to have four pulled. The other dentist pulling them objected and said we could pull the ones with the fillings out and leave all healthy teeth. He said we already calculated it like this..Still too little?? Speak up already, the other guy should have as well, he was a flipping adult, no i should have just left could have, should have, re -flipping-- calculate. (heard later my best friends boyfriend, he filled 20 at once)

see dentist can mean fear and then where is your Christ-self?/

I had such a strong feeling against these amalgams,... Cried for days..soultears. just the first one. Tasted them,hated them.. Same with the darn fluor treatments.. damn and i took the fluor tablets that were supposed to prevent tooth decay..

Prayed out something awhile back, a long while. Well that and some flossing. Came from between the teeth, looked like glass.. Don't know what it was........should have mentioned here anyway.. or now i do

EEhhh

These experiments, i felt like that, especially whe n very bad (may have send Marc a real crazy e-mail, remember hitting here when i was very bad still, not sure if i even sent it, if i was even able)

One thing i have learned about conspiracy theories..

A message i got, or wisdom i received///

"Behind what you call conspiracies, there is just one man. One man who becomes many men" (that is the devil..)

It is not people that we are fighting, although the dark can use people,,

Maureen, whatever it is i was there and i am out now.. It is possible. You can win..

To Light alone i bow

Love


PS sorry if i seem to divert to the very essense of these symptoms (or what seemed to be it for me)

I'd want that out if it in my teeth. :) Then again, there's still
plenty metal I need out, and almost can't wait, but it will have to
till later this year.

Did you see Rachel's post not far back. She's looking for a roommate
to share a safer house. Don't know how close you both are in the UK.
I think that's where you are?

What about plastering the wall towards your neighbor with lots of
aluminum foil to help?

I do agree, many experiments going on, besides all the factors we
just haven't learned about yet.

~ Snoshoe

--- In [hidden email], "m.a.norman" <m.a.norman@...> wrote:
>
> Have you checked your dental x-rays, and taken digital photos of
them
> which you can zoom into? They may reveal a multitude of sins.
>
> I posted a digital photograph I took of my dental x-ray. It's my
tooth
> root which are quite clear. The dentist who did this was in at a
> practise at a place called Leicester when she filled two roots. As
you
> can see one of these 'foreign bodies' is placed almost at the end
of the
> tooth root and the other is alongside it further up on the upper
jaw. I've
> thought many times of the occasion when she was working on this root
> filling when she kept taking me back and forth to x-ray room. She
seemed
> very excited.as she did it. And yes I did complain both verbally
and in
> writing. Then I paid my bill for this!
>
> It is these things that were put on my tooth root and in my upper
jaw
> that I believe have caused me so many problems over the years with
> severe tinnitus that has, at times, been totally disabling.
>
> And now we have a dentist problem here which we never had as
> over the past few years dentists here in the UK have left their
practices
> in droves so that now many people no longer have a dentist. And
it's
> so bad as they leave foreign dentist are taking their place.
>
> I don't believe I'm unique by any means and, who in the future,
will be
> responsible for what is being put into the fillings and tooth roots
of
> unsuspecting people, as the dentist who did these things have moved
on?
>
> This, combined with a 'neighbour' situation I have is at times
unbearable.
> Every room in my home is affected one way or another and I'm not
only
> getting pollution coming through from next door into my home, but
also
> radiation that leaves me with 'sunburn', also high levels of emf
that I
> now believe are created when whatever technology it is they're using
> is run, which goes through my home in surges even when the electric
is
> switched off at the mains. When it's bad it leaves me in great
pain and
> I've found that each time it's done now (I have a TriField meter
that
> is able to monitor the emf), it gets worse.
>
> I believe many of us here are suffering from experimentation which
is
> now known about and condoned. Without any thought for our human
> rights to live in our home and community in peace.
>
> Maureen
>






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What about weak magnetic static (DC) fields ?

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From: "bbin37" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 22:25
Subject: [eSens] Re: floor mats

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-- In [hidden email], "Less EMF Inc." <lessemf@...> wrote:
>
> Here's the problem: if the meter reads zero, then what type of
shielding is
> appropriate? Electric? Magnetic? RF? On what basis will you choose?
And how
> will you know where to position it?
>
> Do you get the symptoms in that room with all the equipment turned
off?
> Do you get the symptoms in that room with all the power in the
house turned something
> electrical if it only happens in that room where my equipment is
at. If you
> have a product I'm willing to hear about that.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Less EMF Inc.
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 10:42 PM
> > Subject: Re: [eSens] floor mats
> >
> >
> > OK, if the meter tell you there is no field present, you might
want to placed it
> on
> > the floor in the area where my feet rest in that room. No
readings of
> any
> > kind. I placed it next to my equipment and I only get high
magnetic
> fields.
> > When I sit at the desk that is in that room where all my
equipment,
> spare
> > computer is at I start to feel a burning in my feet and I
instinctively
> lift
> > them off the floor and put them under me on the chair. I'm not
sure
> where
> > it is coming from, what it is exactly. The receivers in that
room pull
> in
> > signals from all my satellite dishes. There may be some
microwave as
> well
> > as magnetic. The monitor in that room is an LED. I think that
is
> electric
> > field, right? So I may be getting something of all kinds
here. Maybe
> my
> > trifield just can't pick them up. But with everything on in
that room I
> > only get magnetic field readings from my equipment. No
microwave or
> > electric at all. Still, my feet tell me I'm getting
something. If it
> were
> > magnetic field would it be able to spread across the floor like
that?
> Do
> > they make any products for magnetic fields that you can put on
the material,
> > properly
> > > grounded.
> > > RF and magnetic fields may require a more sophisticated
approach.
> > >
> > > I would suggest that you begin with an appropriate meter
and make a
> > > diagnosis of what type of field is present, and what is the
source.
> This
> > > will permit you to design the proper "treatment" with
predictable mats that
> can
> > > effectively neutralize ground currents? If so, what kind
did you
> try
> > and
> > > did any of them work? Which ones were the best? I have a
room with
> all
> > my
> > > satellite receivers inside a faraday cage. Other equipment
as well,
> > such
> > > as computers, also inside metal boxes up off the floor and
grounded.
> > Still,
> > > I sense a ground current when walking on the floor of that
room.
> Any
> > other
> > > suggestions besides floor mats are welcome.
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--- In [hidden email], "m.a.norman" <m.a.norman@...> wrote:
>
> Have you checked your dental x-rays, and taken digital photos of
them
> which you can zoom into? They may reveal a multitude of sins.
>
> I posted a digital photograph I took of my dental x-ray. It's my
tooth
> root which are quite clear. The dentist who did this was in at a
> practise at a place called Leicester when she filled two roots. As
you
> can see one of these 'foreign bodies' is placed almost at the end
of the
> tooth root and the other is alongside it further up on the upper
jaw. I've
> thought many times of the occasion when she was working on this root
> filling when she kept taking me back and forth to x-ray room. She
seemed
> very excited.as she did it. And yes I did complain both verbally
and in
> writing. Then I paid my bill for this!
>
> It is these things that were put on my tooth root and in my upper
jaw
> that I believe have caused me so many problems over the years with
> severe tinnitus that has, at times, been totally disabling.
>
> And now we have a dentist problem here which we never had as
> over the past few years dentists here in the UK have left their
practices
> in droves so that now many people no longer have a dentist. And
it's
> so bad as they leave foreign dentist are taking their place.
>
> I don't believe I'm unique by any means and, who in the future,
will be
> responsible for what is being put into the fillings and tooth roots
of
> unsuspecting people, as the dentist who did these things have moved
on?
>
> This, combined with a 'neighbour' situation I have is at times
unbearable.
> Every room in my home is affected one way or another and I'm not
only
> getting pollution coming through from next door into my home, but
also
> radiation that leaves me with 'sunburn', also high levels of emf
that I
> now believe are created when whatever technology it is they're using
> is run, which goes through my home in surges even when the electric
is
> switched off at the mains. When it's bad it leaves me in great
pain and
> I've found that each time it's done now (I have a TriField meter
that
> is able to monitor the emf), it gets worse.
>
> I believe many of us here are suffering from experimentation which
is lesions
> > that I develop on my cheeks and temples when exposed to
flourescent
> > lights and computer screens I also get small sore white pussy
spots at
> > sebacious gland zones which appear within a couple of hours of
what I
> > feel/know as high exposure to emr. I wont mention what happens
when I
> > used an ordinary phone let alone a mobile!
> > I also have a discernable lump in the mastoid area behind my left
ear
> > which becomes more achey after such exposure (possibly due to
increased
> > muscle tension due to stress imposed by es symptoms) ironically I
have
> > bi lateral tinitus which is much worse in the right ear !
constant high
> > pitch which more recently has another overlay that
ossilates/woors at
> > higher pitch and changes pitch. My med notes detail the former as
being
> > due to loss of hearing at 4000hz ? All the above symptoms which
are
> > just the tip of the melting iceberg have been exacerbated by
taking on
> > a new contract which involves driving and computer/officework.
> >
> > HELP ! my money or my health what is it to be ? I am sure that
you can
> > understand the depressing feeling of not being able to get on
with your
> > life when you are on the ES tether ! I am highly
trained/experienced at
> > my work and have a great desire to do my best but every time I
try to
> > pick myself up and do what I am good at I find myself scuppered
once
> > again as to sit in a flourescent lighted office in from of a pc is
> > after a short while as good as torture to me !! A simple request
from
> > my newly aquired boss asking me to spend a whole day in the
office to
> > sort some work out makes me loss the will to live(well not quite)
again
> > even though the job is contract I find myself getting ready to
tell my

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It is all of our jobs to raise awareness around RFID chips. It is not
inevitable unless we believe it to be.
http://www.spychips.com/
I think my illness has given me the gift of knowledge I otherwise may
not have seen or felt.
Andrew
On Feb 22, 2006, at 9:44 AM, m.a.norman wrote: