simple, cheap and easy tips requested

Hello everyone,

I joined this group a few days ago, because you must start somewhere getting information and groups like this are usually very useful.
Brief story: I have Chronic Fatigue Syndrome since 16 years and my condition was always stable, but since we moved into our new house four years ago my health slowly got worse. And since late 2008 I have developed pretty bad neurological problems that no doctor has an explanation for. So I started my own research and realized that the high voltage wires that are all around our house *could* be the cause of my problems. But I don't know that for sure.

So to start with I would like some tips how to find out if it's really the electricity that makes me sick. I don't need a meter, for I'm sure the electromagnetic field here is high, but I'm the only person in the street that's sick. So I need tips how find out in a *simple*, *cheap* and *easy* way if protection from the electrical magnetism will make me feel better. I think about something I can wear around the house, or something to sleep under at night. I don't know anything about these things so far, so some details would be helpful.
Unfortunately leaving the house for a possibly safer place for a few weeks is not an option.

Thanks for your help!

Regards,
Rixta Francis in Australia



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You may also want to check to see if you have heavy metal toxicity. Once I lowered my heavy metals body burden my electrical sensitivity improved greatly.
Carl

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Carl, How did you reduce your load? Loni

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You may also want to check to see if you have heavy metal toxicity. Once I lowered my heavy metals body burden my electrical sensitivity improved greatly.
Carl

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Hi Rixta,

I would say that if you have had CFS for 16 years it is very likely that you
could develop electrosensitivity, as they very often go together (likewise
with multiple chemical sensitivity). And, as you say, you will probably be
the only person in the environment who's sick.

However there are different types of electromagnetic fields, and different
people react to a different extent to each one - electric fields from wires
in walls or high voltage lines outside, magnetic fields from relays/phone
receivers etc, microwave radiation from masts outside or cordless and mobile
phones inside, and EM frequencies from fluorescent and low energy lights.
For microwave radiation, a simple and cheap meter, the Electrosmog Detector,
gives an indication if there are any "hot spots", but it may not be
available in Oz. It does show however where localised shielding (e.g. with
metallised gauze) would be particularly useful.

Some basic suggestions which you can try to reduce the effects quickly:
- Avoid cordless and mobile phones, switch off cordless phone base stations,
use standard wired phones.
- Switch off any wireless networks in the house, use wired connections and
modems instead.
- Try replacing fluorescent and low-energy bulbs by old-fashioned
incandescent ones (if still available)
- See if it's possible to switch the house electric power off at night.

Certainly these can be inconvenient to you and your family, but they are
worth trying. Lots of ES people find all these measures help significantly.
It then makes the task of protection and shielding easier.

Lots of similar information in the archives of this group, but that should
get you started..

Ian

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Subject: [eSens] simple, cheap and easy tips requested




Hello everyone,

I joined this group a few days ago, because you must start somewhere getting
information and groups like this are usually very useful.
Brief story: I have Chronic Fatigue Syndrome since 16 years and my condition
was always stable, but since we moved into our new house four years ago my
health slowly got worse. And since late 2008 I have developed pretty bad
neurological problems that no doctor has an explanation for. So I started my
own research and realized that the high voltage wires that are all around
our house *could* be the cause of my problems. But I don't know that for
sure.

So to start with I would like some tips how to find out if it's really the
electricity that makes me sick. I don't need a meter, for I'm sure the
electromagnetic field here is high, but I'm the only person in the street
that's sick. So I need tips how find out in a *simple*, *cheap* and *easy*
way if protection from the electrical magnetism will make me feel better. I
think about something I can wear around the house, or something to sleep
under at night. I don't know anything about these things so far, so some
details would be helpful.
Unfortunately leaving the house for a possibly safer place for a few weeks
is not an option.

Thanks for your help!

Regards,
Rixta Francis in Australia

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That wasn't my case. After spending over $1000 on my teeth to remove amalgams, did the chelation and testing, results shown no heavy metal toxicity and no mercury toxicity. I still have major EMF sensitivities.
Kris




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Subject: [eSens] Re: simple, cheap and easy tips requested

You may also want to check to see if you have heavy metal toxicity. Once I lowered my heavy metals body burden my electrical sensitivity improved greatly.
Carl

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> That wasn't my case. After spending over $1000 on my teeth to remove
> amalgams, did the chelation and testing, results shown no heavy metal
> toxicity and no mercury toxicity. I still have major EMF sensitivities.

Can you take alpha lipoic acid (ALA) without adverse effect? Some people use
this is a test for metal toxicity (even when the hair tests show nothing,
one can still be toxic -- it's just not in the hair)

Marc

It wasn't a hair toxic test. It was a chelation followed by a urine collection then testing the urine.
I'll check on the ALA.

However, Rixta is from another Forum that I'm on. She needs simple guidance in testing to see if she indeed has EHS. I tried to answer some of her questions and b/c I have only been dealing with this for a year, and been under a lot of brain fog, I can't seem to answer things correctly. She needs quick simple ways to shield herself and to test whether or not this is an issue for her. Thanks everyone.
Kris




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To: [hidden email]
Sent: Sun, February 7, 2010 8:40:58 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: simple, cheap and easy tips requested

> That wasn't my case. After spending over $1000 on my teeth to remove
> amalgams, did the chelation and testing, results shown no heavy metal
> toxicity and no mercury toxicity. I still have major EMF sensitivities.

Can you take alpha lipoic acid (ALA) without adverse effect? Some people use
this is a test for metal toxicity (even when the hair tests show nothing,
one can still be toxic -- it's just not in the hair)

Marc


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> She needs quick simple ways to shield herself and to test
> whether or not this is an issue for her.

It's the "simple" and "cheap" part that is difficult... I
would think that seeing how you feel further away from
the power lines would be one indicator.

Marc

If I could go away for two weeks and spend it somewhere far away from powerlines, that would be the best way to find out. Unfortunately that's not an option. I will think of something myself. I have some ideas already, just need the energy to do it.

Rixta



It's the "simple" and "cheap" part that is difficult... I
would think that seeing how you feel further away from
the power lines would be one indicator.

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Hi Marc,

Are you saying that if you have adverse effects from taking ALA that means you have metal poisoning? Very interesting. What types of effects might youexpect? I take it and I feel tired. However, I felt tired before I startedit as well.

Thanks,

Cheryl

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> Are you saying that if you have adverse effects from taking ALA that
> means you have metal poisoning? Very interesting. What types of effects
> might you expect? I take it and I feel tired. However, I felt tired
> before I started it as well.

Yes, that's the claim on the "adult metal chelation" yahoo group. Typical
reactions might include fatigue, headache, dehydration, anxiety, "metallic
taste" in mouth... I also sometimes get chest pains with chelators, but I
don't think that's a common reaction.

Marc

Hi, Rixta,
 
Same here as Carl said, I also detoxed metals, but also other noxious toxins (pesticides, herbicides, chemicals of all types....) from my bone marrow, fat, and organs.  I used/use various methods--epsom salts, sea salts, and baking soda baths; clays, homepathy, supplements, diet, chelation.....  (But still I have problems in SOME areas of high emfs--I am much, much better tho.)  People here use usually more than one method of detox, but our problem is more often getting the toxins to LEAVE our bodies.  Mobilizing toxins sometimes just causes them to migrate to a different part of your body.  You must be in a low emf environmentto get them to leave and you have to also have your lymphatic pathway (thewaste disposal system of your body) up to the task.  If you haveweakness in this area (which most of us do), then you have to strengthen that first.  That includes liver, kidney, adrenal, immune system, lung, and lymphatic supplementation
which is very individual according to your personal needs; tho most of us here agree certain supplements seem to be nearly universally needed.  Those include hydrogen supplements, vit B12, Vit D3.  (Drawing a blank--I think we agree on a few more.)  Fatty acids and fats also influence the ability of toxins to leave the body.  Toxins are attracted to fats, in general, and you have to provide a good fat as a carrier to get toxins to attach to, to carry them out.  However, if you eat too much fat, the fat will then stay with the toxin imbedded in it, in your body.  Then you will have a condition called "toxic fat", whereby you are overweight (or just have a large belly) and you cannot easily lose fat because your body doesn't want to disturb the toxins there.
 
I personally had/have this--couldn't lose the adipose fat due to toxins there.  It took alot of work, supplementation, and low carb dieting to get it off and I am still working at it, since anytime I come into contact with toxins, my body chooses to take on weight to deal with them.  (Thisbeats the alternatives, btw, which is for those same toxins to go into bone marrow and organs.) 
 
Also, dealing with EMS (electro-magnetic sensitivity).... l personallymust take huge amounts of calcium AEP and pantethine (a form of B5).  My body also lacks molybdenum due to a gluten-free diet, so I must supplement that.  Taurine and manganese (which can be a toxic mineral in some cases) also help me.  I also find I need almost ALL B vitamins and vit A; and amino-acids in general seem to help me.  When I was particularly bad, electrolyte supplements helped.  So, you see, it is very individual and you either must find a good nutritionist or other docto help, or you must start learning about nutrition and your needs onyour own.  (I did both.)   
 
Rixta, I also have/had CFS/ME (I am of the subset with orthostatic hypotension, autonomic nervous system disorder, and metabolic serotonin dumping) and fibromyalgia (and many other dxes--environmental allergies, celiac disease, diabetes, chronic bronchial asthma....)  I write that I have/had CFS and fibromyalgia because I personally have found I can control both of them very well, mainly with supplementation and lymphatic helps.  For fibro, my main helps came in the form of learning to exercise effectively and correctly (which addresses sluggish lymphatic fluid movement) and diet--a completely glutenfree, sugarfree diet (I am celiac anddiabetic).  I personally think fibromyagia should be renamed lymphatic dysfunction.  For CFS the helps were those (diet and exercise--moving the lymphatic fluid), plus addressing gut flora problems, hydrogen needs,and supplementing calcium AEP and pantethine and other supplementation which addressed adrenal and
lymphatic nutritional needs.  [I was nearly completely bedbound for 13 years from CFS and ill my entire life from untreated celiac disease, and now I am able to live normally, exertion-wise (I garden, hike, bike.... in addition to cleaning and taking care of 2 households).  I am alsomuch better EMS-wise and MCS-wise, tho I still practice avoidance of high emf atmospheres and environmental toxins, such as pesticides andherbicides, perfumes,.....] 
 
As a result of changing diet habits, exercise, supplementation, and avoidance of chemicals and emfs, I have had great gains in all of my other health problems, as well.  So, take heart, it can improve greatly for you if you are able to learn what your body needs.  But understand that most of what we use personally here at this forum is very individual--what helps one will not necessarily help another. 
 
I have written a few emails to others in the past here on related subjects--what to do before detoxing, easy emf helps...  I will send those to you privately, since they are old news here.
 
My best wishes for your recovery,
Diane
 


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You may also want to check to see if you have heavy metal toxicity. Once I lowered my heavy metals body burden my electrical sensitivity improved greatly.
Carl

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>
> Hello everyone,
>
> I joined this group a few days ago, because you must start somewhere getting information and groups like this are usually very useful.
> Brief story: I have Chronic Fatigue Syndrome since 16 years and my condition was always stable, but since we moved into our new house four years agomy health slowly got worse. And since late 2008 I have developed pretty bad neurological problems that no doctor has an explanation for. So I startedmy own research and realized that the high voltage wires that are all
around our house *could* be the cause of my problems. But I don't know that for sure. removed]
>











     

Hi, Kris,
 
Sorry to hear amalgam removal and chelation didn't work for you.  :(  There are more reasons than just heavy metals for getting ES (EMS).  You could have other toxic problems--pesticide, herbicide, pharmaceutical, or chemical poisonings; parasitic problems (general term--to include bacterial, fungal, viral, mycoplasm, and parasites); or possibly a problem with ion channels; or autonomic nervous system disorder which could lead to ES (and likely there are other causes).  But also, the doctor could have used the wrong test after your amalgam removal and chelation or you could have been molybdenum deficient--both of which cangive false negatives for mercury. 
 
It is odd tho, that chelation would not have made a big difference for you.  Was the chelation recent?  Sometimes detoxing (thru any method)takes a while to help due to mobilizing toxins in the body.  The toxins which did not get removed are circulating looking for new places toreside in your body.  When you say "chelation", you DO mean blood filtering using an IV, right?  Since this method bypasses the lymphatics, it cannot be lymphatic dysfunction causing your remaining problem.  BUT, it could be whatever was given to you to mobilize your toxins was not effective in mobilizing them, perhaps due to lack of understanding as to what the toxins actually were.  [And, even with chelation and metal removal most of us do still have *some* symptoms, tho mine are much improved in most environments since major detoxing].
 
Just some thoughts as to your dilemma.  What a shame chelation and amalgam removal didn't work for you. 
 
I wish you well,
Diane

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That wasn't my case. After spending over $1000 on my teeth to remove amalgams, did the chelation and testing, results shown no heavy metal toxicity and no mercury toxicity. I still have major EMF sensitivities.
Kris

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To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sun, February 7, 2010 11:39:36 AM
Subject: [eSens] Re: simple, cheap and easy tips requested

You may also want to check to see if you have heavy metal toxicity. Once I lowered my heavy metals body burden my electrical sensitivity improved greatly.
Carl

--- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, "Rixta Francis" <rixta.francis@ ...> wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> I joined this group a few days ago, because you must start somewhere getting information and groups like this are usually very useful.
> Brief story: I have Chronic Fatigue Syndrome since 16 years and my condition was always stable, but since we moved into our new house four years agomy health slowly got worse. And since late 2008 I have developed pretty bad neurological problems that no doctor has an explanation for. So I startedmy own research and realized that the high voltage wires that are all around our house *could* be the cause of my problems. But I don't know that forsure.
>
> So to start with I would like some tips how to find out if it's really the
electricity that makes me sick. I don't need a meter, for I'm sure the electromagnetic field here is high, but I'm the only person in the street that's sick. So I need tips how find out in a *simple*, *cheap* and *easy* way if protection from the electrical magnetism will make me feel better. I think about something I can wear around the house, or something to sleep underat night. I don't know anything about these things so far, so some detailswould be helpful.
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Hi, Kris and Rixta,
 
Some of the easiest and cheapest things people can do to help ES (not cure,but help), is contained in this post I shared a month or 2 ago, (some of the info came from a book written by a homeopath who I saw last year, and some was common knowledge among those of us who have frequented ES forums over the years).  I was going to send this privately to Rixta, but decided to resend to the entire forum incase more newbies are here lurking.   The subject of the post was "preparing for detoxing", but each of the steps for detoxing are aimed at the goal of lowering emfs or helping the body to withstand more stress--both of which help with emfsymptoms.  I have particularly found the parts about unplugging anything unpluggable, using rubber gloves, and where to place your bed, of the greatest help when I was most ill.  I also personally have had great success with "grounding" at a river nearby, which has a waterfall. Hope this helps you, Rixta:

Preparing Oneself for Detoxing:
 
Ahead of time:
Quit eating overly-processed foods and foods w chemical additives, sugar, refined carbs, and glutens, in them.  Eat organic foods to avoid pesticides and other chemicals.  No sodas, alcoholic beverages, recreationaldrugs, or cigarettes.  Limit yeasts and even natural sugars in foods.
 
Limit coffee and tea (except herbal, sugarfree types) to one cup in the morning, only.  Use no more caffeine than this and avoid other stimulants.
 
Maximize the quality and quantity of your drinking water and begin a good multiple vitamin/mineral supplement regimen.
 
Get ample sleep +/or rest.
 
Begin unplugging all appliances (which can be unplugged) when not in use.  Also get in the habit of using rubber gloves to plug in and turn on all electrics.  Also do this when changing light bulbs, etc.
 
Move to the safest area you can find to sleep—not above, below, or next to rooms with tvs, wireless, computers, or other electronics.  Otherwise, turn off circuits to those rooms while sleeping.  Do not havewireless devices, TVs, or anything which can transmit frequencies while unplugged in or near your bedroom.
 
Pull your bed away from the walls by 1 or 2 feet.  Keep only a batteryalarm clock and battery candles to see by in your bedroom or otherwise turn off circuits to the room at night when you are sleeping.
 
Also avoid sleeping above metal pipes and incoming water or gas lines, if those have the potential to have electrical current running on them.
 
 
During detoxing:
Continue the previous list.
 
Avoid electromagnetic fields: while detoxing stay out of areas high in emfs.  Do not drive or visit others.  Limit use of electronics, tv, radio, and computers or do not use at all.
 
Do not talk on phones—use only a speakerphone and limit calls to a couple minutes while detoxing.
 
Temporarily quit using magnets.
 
Do not have dental work of any kind done if you have mercury and amalgam fillings while doing detoxing. (unless amalgam removal and detoxing mercury and silver is what you are preparing for.)    
 
Begin use of glandulars to support the organs, such as thymus and adrenal glandular.  Use supplemental support for the kidneys, liver, and adrenals, if glandulars are not preferred.
 
If you are within 15-20 minutes of a large park, forest, or natural water source, spend as much time in nature there, where emfs are low.  “Ground” yourself when possible in such places.

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It wasn't a hair toxic test. It was a chelation followed by a urine collection then testing the urine.
I'll check on the ALA.

However, Rixta is from another Forum that I'm on. She needs simple guidancein testing to see if she indeed has EHS. I tried to answer some of her questions and b/c I have only been dealing with this for a year, and been under a lot of brain fog, I can't seem to answer things correctly. She needs quick simple ways to shield herself and to test whether or not this is an issue for her. Thanks everyone.
Kris

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To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sun, February 7, 2010 8:40:58 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: simple, cheap and easy tips requested

> That wasn't my case. After spending over $1000 on my teeth to remove
> amalgams, did the chelation and testing, results shown no heavy metal
> toxicity and no mercury toxicity. I still have major EMF sensitivities.

Can you take alpha lipoic acid (ALA) without adverse effect? Some people use
this is a test for metal toxicity (even when the hair tests show nothing,
one can still be toxic -- it's just not in the hair)

Marc

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I think ALA might cause adverse reactions by sucking up metal ions
that you need, like zinc. I would take RLA which at least helps use
the zinc for something.

I agree with most of what Marc says. Unplugging electronics or
even turning off all the power at night if you're not sleeping well
is definitely worth a try. Getting rid of unneeded electronics,
using an AM radio to shop for appliances, not using any wireless
are all top of the list. Check magnetic fields (don't sleep near
the panel) and check for wiring errors (read Silencing the Fields
by Ed Leeper or another source for info on this).

Bill

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yeah, I was recently diagnosed with Tick borne diseases: Babesia, Erhlicha, with Lyme's being indeterminate. So yeah I have a parasitic issue to now deal with.

The Chelation was given three or so weeks after my last amalgam removal. Yes it was an IV push after a Vitamin IV. if I remember right. My brain is pretty well fogged over right now. and short term memory is a major problem. then it was a urine collection after that.

Right now the main focus is on the Tick borne disease treatment.
Kris




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Hi, Kris,

Sorry to hear amalgam removal and chelation didn't work for you. :( There are more reasons than just heavy metals for getting ES (EMS). You could have other toxic problems--pesticide, herbicide, pharmaceutical, or chemical poisonings; parasitic problems (general term--to include bacterial, fungal, viral, mycoplasm, and parasites); or possibly a problem with ion channels; or autonomic nervous system disorder which could lead to ES (and likely there are other causes). But also, the doctor could have used the wrong test after your amalgam removal and chelation or you could have been molybdenum deficient--both of which can give false negatives for mercury.

It is odd tho, that chelation would not have made a big difference for you. Was the chelation recent? Sometimes detoxing (thru any method) takes a while to help due to mobilizing toxins in the body. The toxins which did not get removed are circulating looking for new places to reside in your body. When you say "chelation", you DO mean blood filtering using an IV, right? Since this method bypasses the lymphatics, it cannot be lymphatic dysfunction causing your remaining problem. BUT, it could be whatever was given to you to mobilize your toxins was not effective in mobilizing them, perhaps due to lack of understanding as to what the toxins actually were. [And, even with chelation and metal removal most of us do still have *some* symptoms, tho mine are much improved in most environments since major detoxing].

Just some thoughts as to your dilemma. What a shame chelation and amalgam removal didn't work for you.

I wish you well,
Diane

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That wasn't my case. After spending over $1000 on my teeth to remove amalgams, did the chelation and testing, results shown no heavy metal toxicity and no mercury toxicity. I still have major EMF sensitivities.
Kris

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Sent: Sun, February 7, 2010 11:39:36 AM
Subject: [eSens] Re: simple, cheap and easy tips requested

You may also want to check to see if you have heavy metal toxicity. Once I lowered my heavy metals body burden my electrical sensitivity improved greatly.
Carl

--- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, "Rixta Francis" <rixta.francis@ ...> wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> I joined this group a few days ago, because you must start somewhere getting information and groups like this are usually very useful.
> Brief story: I have Chronic Fatigue Syndrome since 16 years and my condition was always stable, but since we moved into our new house four years ago my health slowly got worse. And since late 2008 I have developed pretty bad neurological problems that no doctor has an explanation for. So I started my own research and realized that the high voltage wires that are all around our house *could* be the cause of my problems. But I don't know that for sure.
>
> So to start with I would like some tips how to find out if it's really the
electricity that makes me sick. I don't need a meter, for I'm sure the electromagnetic field here is high, but I'm the only person in the street that's sick. So I need tips how find out in a *simple*, *cheap* and *easy* way if protection from the electrical magnetism will make me feel better. I think about something I can wear around the house, or something to sleep under at night. I don't know anything about these things so far, so some details would be helpful.
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Hi Kris,

I have suspected that I'm mercury-toxic - and before I got "sidetracked" bymy electrosensitivity crisis I had been trying to educate myself about Hg toxicity/detox and trying to take steps toward amalgam removal and chelation. In exploring what is on the 'Net about this, I somehow came across the work of Andrew Cutler. Many people who have struggled with mercury toxicty, and suffered through failed detoxes - have become strong "disciples" of Andy Cutler's method of chelation. Where many other methods of chelation failed, these people claim that Andy's method was tremendously helpful. Cutler says that there are many chelation protocols that are simply ineffective- and may actually make the problem worse instead of better. (He also claims that many of the "tests" done are inaccurate.) It could be that you are in fact mercury toxic, and are a "victim" of an ineffective method of chelation.

According to Andy and his followers - you can only succeed in truly gettingthe mercury out of your body by taking small, frequent doses of ALA along with DMSA, or just ALA alone. ("Freqent Doses" means once every 3 or 4 hours - even through the night.) One might have to start with VERY small doses of ALA and DMSA in order to tolerate the rigors of chelation. If the doses of ALA and DMSA aren't taken frequently enough - you don't succeed in actually moving the mercury out of your body. Doses that are not frequent enough only redistribute the mercury throughout your body. A 100mg capsule of ALA or RLA taken once daily can actually do more harm than good, according to Cutler.

I won't elaborate any more - I'll just give you a link to a website that hekeeps through which you can order his highly-esteemed books (many people swear by these books as "definitive" sources on mercury/heavy-metal toxicityand "proper" chelation): www.noamalgam.com

Also, you might be interested in joining the "Frequent Dose Chelation" Yahoo! group - which is filled with people either going through Andy Cutler's chelation protocol, or preparing themselves for it. This group is a good way to keep up with updated information (Andy himself has posted there occassionally) and learn from some very knowledgable people.

I know what you may be thinking - "Yeah, another guy proclaiming himself tobe an 'expert' - what else is new?" - you may be skepical. But once you explore the Frequent Dose Chelation group, read archived posts from people following this protocol (and old posts from Andy himself), and read Andy's books - there is a good chance that you will be convinced that the guy and his protocol are legit, to say the least.  

~Svetaswan



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Yeah, I'm sure my adrenals are fatigued, I don't know about mercury tox, my mono levels are elevated(found out yesterday) but being recently diagnosed with Babesia, Erhlichia, with lyme's being indeterminate, I guess I need to focus on this treatment first?
Kris




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Sent: Mon, February 8, 2010 10:48:36 PM
Subject: [eSens] Re: simple, cheap and easy tips requested



Hi Kris,

I have suspected that I'm mercury-toxic - and before I got "sidetracked" by my electrosensitivity crisis I had been trying to educate myself about Hg toxicity/detox and trying to take steps toward amalgam removal and chelation. In exploring what is on the 'Net about this, I somehow came across the work of Andrew Cutler. Many people who have struggled with mercury toxicty, and suffered through failed detoxes - have become strong "disciples" of Andy Cutler's method of chelation. Where many other methods of chelation failed, these people claim that Andy's method was tremendously helpful. Cutler says that there are many chelation protocols that are simply ineffective - and may actually make the problem worse instead of better. (He also claims that many of the "tests" done are inaccurate.) It could be that you are in fact mercury toxic, and are a "victim" of an ineffective method of chelation.

According to Andy and his followers - you can only succeed in truly getting the mercury out of your body by taking small, frequent doses of ALA along with DMSA, or just ALA alone. ("Freqent Doses" means once every 3 or 4 hours - even through the night.) One might have to start with VERY small doses of ALA and DMSA in order to tolerate the rigors of chelation. If the doses of ALA and DMSA aren't taken frequently enough - you don't succeed in actually moving the mercury out of your body. Doses that are not frequent enough only redistribute the mercury throughout your body. A 100mg capsule of ALA or RLA taken once daily can actually do more harm than good, according to Cutler.

I won't elaborate any more - I'll just give you a link to a website that he keeps through which you can order his highly-esteemed books (many people swear by these books as "definitive" sources on mercury/heavy-metal toxicity and "proper" chelation): www.noamalgam.com

Also, you might be interested in joining the "Frequent Dose Chelation" Yahoo! group - which is filled with people either going through Andy Cutler's chelation protocol, or preparing themselves for it. This group is a good way to keep up with updated information (Andy himself has posted there occassionally) and learn from some very knowledgable people.

I know what you may be thinking - "Yeah, another guy proclaiming himself to be an 'expert' - what else is new?" - you may be skepical. But once you explore the Frequent Dose Chelation group, read archived posts from people following this protocol (and old posts from Andy himself), and read Andy's books - there is a good chance that you will be convinced that the guy and his protocol are legit, to say the least.

~Svetaswan



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Sorry to hear, Kris,
 
I hope it works out for you and you recover your health. 
 
Take care,
Diane

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From: K <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: simple, cheap and easy tips requested
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, February 8, 2010, 9:02 PM


 



yeah, I was recently diagnosed with Tick borne diseases: Babesia, Erhlicha,with Lyme's being indeterminate. So yeah I have a parasitic issue to now deal with.

The Chelation was given three or so weeks after my last amalgam removal. Yes it was an IV push after a Vitamin IV. if I remember right. My brain is pretty well fogged over right now. and short term memory is a major problem. then it was a urine collection after that.

Right now the main focus is on the Tick borne disease treatment.
Kris

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From: Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com>
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, February 8, 2010 2:57:47 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: simple, cheap and easy tips requested

Hi, Kris,

Sorry to hear amalgam removal and chelation didn't work for you. :( There are more reasons than just heavy metals for getting ES (EMS). You could haveother toxic problems--pesticide , herbicide, pharmaceutical, or chemical poisonings; parasitic problems (general term--to include bacterial, fungal, viral, mycoplasm, and parasites); or possibly a problem with ion channels; or autonomic nervous system disorder which could lead to ES (and likely there are other causes). But also, the doctor could have used the wrong test after your amalgam removal and chelation or you could have been molybdenum deficient--both of which can give false negatives for mercury.

It is odd tho, that chelation would not have made a big difference for you.Was the chelation recent? Sometimes detoxing (thru any method) takes a while to help due to mobilizing toxins in the body. The toxins which did not get removed are circulating looking for new places to reside in your body. When you say "chelation", you DO mean blood filtering using an IV, right? Since this method bypasses the lymphatics, it cannot be lymphatic dysfunctioncausing your remaining problem. BUT, it could be whatever was given to youto mobilize your toxins was not effective in mobilizing them, perhaps due to lack of understanding as to what the toxins actually were. [And, even with chelation and metal removal most of us do still have *some* symptoms, tho mine are much improved in most environments since major detoxing].

Just some thoughts as to your dilemma. What a shame chelation and amalgam removal didn't work for you.

I wish you well,
Diane

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From: K <kfarming@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: simple, cheap and easy tips requested
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, February 7, 2010, 5:34 PM

That wasn't my case. After spending over $1000 on my teeth to remove amalgams, did the chelation and testing, results shown no heavy metal toxicity and no mercury toxicity. I still have major EMF sensitivities.
Kris

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To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sun, February 7, 2010 11:39:36 AM
Subject: [eSens] Re: simple, cheap and easy tips requested

You may also want to check to see if you have heavy metal toxicity. Once I lowered my heavy metals body burden my electrical sensitivity improved greatly.
Carl

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> Hello everyone,
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> I joined this group a few days ago, because you must start somewhere getting information and groups like this are usually very useful.
> Brief story: I have Chronic Fatigue Syndrome since 16 years and my condition was always stable, but since we moved into our new house four years agomy health slowly got worse. And since late 2008 I have developed pretty bad neurological problems that no doctor has an explanation for. So I startedmy own research and realized that the high voltage wires that are all around our house *could* be the cause of my problems. But I don't know that forsure.
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> So to start with I would like some tips how to find out if it's really the
electricity that makes me sick. I don't need a meter, for I'm sure the electromagnetic field here is high, but I'm the only person in the street that's sick. So I need tips how find out in a *simple*, *cheap* and *easy* way if protection from the electrical magnetism will make me feel better. I think about something I can wear around the house, or something to sleep under at night. I don't know anything about these things so far, so some details would be helpful.
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Hi, Kris,
 
Have you ever looked into gut permeability/gluten intolerance/celiac disease/or casein intolerance?  I bring this up because there is *some* goodreason why you have all of these parasitic conditions (unless you have lived in a third world country or with horrible sanitation, which is not likely).  I was a parasitic mess, too; my parasites were dueto celiac disease which caused a great amount of gut damage and allowed toxins of all types (esp "bugs") access to the rest of my body.  I also have alot of chemical toxin buildup due to the blood-brain barrier breaching which takes place with celiac disease.  A great place for you to start would be to close the doors which are allowing all this crap in, if you could pin that down.  
 
Just my 2 cents; I don't know if any of this is relevant to your situation,
Diane

--- On Tue, 2/9/10, K <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: K <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Merury tox:was: Re: simple, cheap and easy tips requested
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, February 9, 2010, 8:00 AM


 



Yeah, I'm sure my adrenals are fatigued, I don't know about mercury tox, mymono levels are elevated(found out yesterday) but being recently diagnosedwith Babesia, Erhlichia, with lyme's being indeterminate, I guess I need to focus on this treatment first?
Kris

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From: svetaswan <svetaswan@yahoo. com>
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, February 8, 2010 10:48:36 PM
Subject: [eSens] Re: simple, cheap and easy tips requested

Hi Kris,

I have suspected that I'm mercury-toxic - and before I got "sidetracked" bymy electrosensitivity crisis I had been trying to educate myself about Hg toxicity/detox and trying to take steps toward amalgam removal and chelation. In exploring what is on the 'Net about this, I somehow came across the work of Andrew Cutler. Many people who have struggled with mercury toxicty, and suffered through failed detoxes - have become strong "disciples" of Andy Cutler's method of chelation. Where many other methods of chelation failed, these people claim that Andy's method was tremendously helpful. Cutler says that there are many chelation protocols that are simply ineffective - and may actually make the problem worse instead of better. (He also claims that many of the "tests" done are inaccurate.) It could be that you are in fact mercury toxic, and are a "victim" of an ineffective method of chelation.

According to Andy and his followers - you can only succeed in truly gettingthe mercury out of your body by taking small, frequent doses of ALA along with DMSA, or just ALA alone. ("Freqent Doses" means once every 3 or 4 hours - even through the night.) One might have to start with VERY small doses of ALA and DMSA in order to tolerate the rigors of chelation. If the doses of ALA and DMSA aren't taken frequently enough - you don't succeed in actually moving the mercury out of your body. Doses that are not frequent enoughonly redistribute the mercury throughout your body. A 100mg capsule of ALAor RLA taken once daily can actually do more harm than good, according to Cutler.

I won't elaborate any more - I'll just give you a link to a website that hekeeps through which you can order his highly-esteemed books (many people swear by these books as "definitive" sources on mercury/heavy- metal toxicity and "proper" chelation): www.noamalgam. com

Also, you might be interested in joining the "Frequent Dose Chelation" Yahoo! group - which is filled with people either going through Andy Cutler's chelation protocol, or preparing themselves for it. This group is a good wayto keep up with updated information (Andy himself has posted there occassionally) and learn from some very knowledgable people.

I know what you may be thinking - "Yeah, another guy proclaiming himself tobe an 'expert' - what else is new?" - you may be skepical. But once you explore the Frequent Dose Chelation group, read archived posts from people following this protocol (and old posts from Andy himself), and read Andy's books - there is a good chance that you will be convinced that the guy and his protocol are legit, to say the least.

~Svetaswan

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