simple, cheap and easy tips requested

yeah I do have mild wheat allergies. These parasites are from ticks. I take probiotics on a daily basis, I have to, I have GI issues due to the Sphincter of Oddi dysfunction that I had surgery for in Dec 2008 six months after they took my gall bladder out thinking that what was the problem. :(
Kris




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From: Evie <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Tue, February 9, 2010 4:01:09 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Merury tox:was: Re: simple, cheap and easy tips requested

Hi, Kris,

Have you ever looked into gut permeability/gluten intolerance/celiac disease/or casein intolerance? I bring this up because there is *some* good reason why you have all of these parasitic conditions (unless you have lived in a third world country or with horrible sanitation, which is not likely). I was a parasitic mess, too; my parasites were due to celiac disease which caused a great amount of gut damage and allowed toxins of all types (esp "bugs") access to the rest of my body. I also have alot of chemical toxin buildup due to the blood-brain barrier breaching which takes place with celiac disease. A great place for you to start would be to close the doors which are allowing all this crap in, if you could pin that down.

Just my 2 cents; I don't know if any of this is relevant to your situation,
Diane

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From: K <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Merury tox:was: Re: simple, cheap and easy tips requested
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, February 9, 2010, 8:00 AM






Yeah, I'm sure my adrenals are fatigued, I don't know about mercury tox, my mono levels are elevated(found out yesterday) but being recently diagnosed with Babesia, Erhlichia, with lyme's being indeterminate, I guess I need to focus on this treatment first?
Kris

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From: svetaswan <svetaswan@yahoo. com>
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, February 8, 2010 10:48:36 PM
Subject: [eSens] Re: simple, cheap and easy tips requested

Hi Kris,

I have suspected that I'm mercury-toxic - and before I got "sidetracked" by my electrosensitivity crisis I had been trying to educate myself about Hg toxicity/detox and trying to take steps toward amalgam removal and chelation. In exploring what is on the 'Net about this, I somehow came across the work of Andrew Cutler. Many people who have struggled with mercury toxicty, and suffered through failed detoxes - have become strong "disciples" of Andy Cutler's method of chelation. Where many other methods of chelation failed, these people claim that Andy's method was tremendously helpful. Cutler says that there are many chelation protocols that are simply ineffective - and may actually make the problem worse instead of better. (He also claims that many of the "tests" done are inaccurate.) It could be that you are in fact mercury toxic, and are a "victim" of an ineffective method of chelation.

According to Andy and his followers - you can only succeed in truly getting the mercury out of your body by taking small, frequent doses of ALA along with DMSA, or just ALA alone. ("Freqent Doses" means once every 3 or 4 hours - even through the night.) One might have to start with VERY small doses of ALA and DMSA in order to tolerate the rigors of chelation. If the doses of ALA and DMSA aren't taken frequently enough - you don't succeed in actually moving the mercury out of your body. Doses that are not frequent enough only redistribute the mercury throughout your body. A 100mg capsule of ALA or RLA taken once daily can actually do more harm than good, according to Cutler.

I won't elaborate any more - I'll just give you a link to a website that he keeps through which you can order his highly-esteemed books (many people swear by these books as "definitive" sources on mercury/heavy- metal toxicity and "proper" chelation): www.noamalgam. com

Also, you might be interested in joining the "Frequent Dose Chelation" Yahoo! group - which is filled with people either going through Andy Cutler's chelation protocol, or preparing themselves for it. This group is a good way to keep up with updated information (Andy himself has posted there occassionally) and learn from some very knowledgable people.

I know what you may be thinking - "Yeah, another guy proclaiming himself to be an 'expert' - what else is new?" - you may be skepical. But once you explore the Frequent Dose Chelation group, read archived posts from people following this protocol (and old posts from Andy himself), and read Andy's books - there is a good chance that you will be convinced that the guy and his protocol are legit, to say the least.

~Svetaswan

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Hi again, Kris,
 
Do you live or work where there are alot of ticks or hike alot?  Just asking because I know people who do all of these on a regular basis and yetnever get a tick-borne illness.  I, on the other hand, have been a walking parasite magnet.  But my original point was, what makes you and me so special?  If you can answer that, you can possibly close a door which invites parasitic infections.  Mono is another example.  Almost everyone comes into contact with epstein-barre virus.  Not everyone is unlucky enough to have on-going high titers of EBV. 
 
If you have a wheat intolerance, it is important to make that a high priority, because it is one of the avenues which opens the tight junctions in the body, allowing chemicals and tick-borne and other "bugs" access to the brain and various organs.  It would probably also be a good idea to find out what other "glutens", if any, you react to.  Some people alsohave problems with rye and barley; still others also have problems with millet and oats (and rye and barley).  And, one with gluten intolerance may have dairy intolerance which hikes along.  (Or just dairy intolerance on its own.)  Any of these foods can cause gut permeability +/or tj opening to those with intolerance.  (And approx a third ofpeople with celiac disease, in particular, have no apparent symptoms.)  Yes, I understand that the tick-borne viruses went directly into your blood-stream, but this most likely happens relatively often to normal people and doesn't cause a
problem.  But how did those end up infecting *your* body?  Many will think it is due to a weak immune-system, but for those with gluten intolerances, this is not the case.  Most often people with gluten intolerance have over-active immune systems (possibly as a result of having to deal with so many parasitic invaders).  Since you know you have wheat allergy, I would automatically think this played some part in your parasitic problem, and so it would behoove you to be especially vigilant in avoiding wheat.
 
Again, only my 2 cents;  run with it or not (I do understand how difficult it is to prioritize needs when you are working with multiple problems.  I face/faced this my entire life as well.)
 
Diane
 
 
 
 

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From: K <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Merury tox:was: Re: simple, cheap and easy tips requested
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, February 9, 2010, 5:54 PM


 



yeah I do have mild wheat allergies. These parasites are from ticks. I takeprobiotics on a daily basis, I have to, I have GI issues due to the Sphincter of Oddi dysfunction that I had surgery for in Dec 2008 six months afterthey took my gall bladder out thinking that what was the problem. :(
Kris

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From: Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com>
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tue, February 9, 2010 4:01:09 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Merury tox:was: Re: simple, cheap and easy tips requested

Hi, Kris,

Have you ever looked into gut permeability/ gluten intolerance/ celiac disease/or casein intolerance? I bring this up because there is *some* good reason why you have all of these parasitic conditions (unless you have lived in a third world country or with horrible sanitation, which is not likely). I was a parasitic mess, too; my parasites were due to celiac disease which caused a great amount of gut damage and allowed toxins of all types (esp "bugs") access to the rest of my body. I also have alot of chemical toxin buildup due to the blood-brain barrier breaching which takes place with celiacdisease. A great place for you to start would be to close the doors which are allowing all this crap in, if you could pin that down.

Just my 2 cents; I don't know if any of this is relevant to your situation,
Diane

--- On Tue, 2/9/10, K <kfarming@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: K <kfarming@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Merury tox:was: Re: simple, cheap and easy tips requested
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, February 9, 2010, 8:00 AM

Yeah, I'm sure my adrenals are fatigued, I don't know about mercury tox, mymono levels are elevated(found out yesterday) but being recently diagnosedwith Babesia, Erhlichia, with lyme's being indeterminate, I guess I need to focus on this treatment first?
Kris

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From: svetaswan <svetaswan@yahoo. com>
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, February 8, 2010 10:48:36 PM
Subject: [eSens] Re: simple, cheap and easy tips requested

Hi Kris,

I have suspected that I'm mercury-toxic - and before I got "sidetracked" bymy electrosensitivity crisis I had been trying to educate myself about Hg toxicity/detox and trying to take steps toward amalgam removal and chelation. In exploring what is on the 'Net about this, I somehow came across the work of Andrew Cutler. Many people who have struggled with mercury toxicty, and suffered through failed detoxes - have become strong "disciples" of Andy Cutler's method of chelation. Where many other methods of chelation failed, these people claim that Andy's method was tremendously helpful. Cutler says that there are many chelation protocols that are simply ineffective - and may actually make the problem worse instead of better. (He also claims that many of the "tests" done are inaccurate.) It could be that you are in fact mercury toxic, and are a "victim" of an ineffective method of chelation.

According to Andy and his followers - you can only succeed in truly gettingthe mercury out of your body by taking small, frequent doses of ALA along with DMSA, or just ALA alone. ("Freqent Doses" means once every 3 or 4 hours - even through the night.) One might have to start with VERY small doses of ALA and DMSA in order to tolerate the rigors of chelation. If the doses of ALA and DMSA aren't taken frequently enough - you don't succeed in actually moving the mercury out of your body. Doses that are not frequent enoughonly redistribute the mercury throughout your body. A 100mg capsule of ALAor RLA taken once daily can actually do more harm than good, according to Cutler.

I won't elaborate any more - I'll just give you a link to a website that hekeeps through which you can order his highly-esteemed books (many people swear by these books as "definitive" sources on mercury/heavy- metal toxicity and "proper" chelation): www.noamalgam. com

Also, you might be interested in joining the "Frequent Dose Chelation" Yahoo! group - which is filled with people either going through Andy Cutler's chelation protocol, or preparing themselves for it. This group is a good wayto keep up with updated information (Andy himself has posted there occassionally) and learn from some very knowledgable people.

I know what you may be thinking - "Yeah, another guy proclaiming himself tobe an 'expert' - what else is new?" - you may be skepical. But once you explore the Frequent Dose Chelation group, read archived posts from people following this protocol (and old posts from Andy himself), and read Andy's books - there is a good chance that you will be convinced that the guy and his protocol are legit, to say the least.

~Svetaswan

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Hi Diane, Yes, It's more of a candida yeast issue, thus the mild wheat allergy is a more 1-2 day delayed reaction and not instant. Allergist said it was best to stay away from wheat in order that the mild allergy doesn't get worse. Yes I need to stay away from wheat b/c yes, I do feel better when I do. Same with sugar, which is the hardest one for me to do. I don't use a lot of oats(once in a while) nor do I use barley or rye. Last few days I've been trying to focus on more alkaline foods than acid to see if this can make a difference as well. This all got tipped upside down when I had a hysterectomy in 2007. Had I gone for allergy testing before the hysto, I would have saved myself the surgery. Never knew a thing about Candida and what it can do to one's body menstrually(sorry guys!)

I've never recovered since. Then the hospital I was working in went under major reconstruction and was exposed to many many things but b/c I was dealing with health issues before that, I can't prove then it was solely the hospital's fault. :(

I did have DNA testing. I lack part of the Gene that helps produce ones own glutathione to rid one's own system of exposures and toxins by itself. I can't do that b/c I am missing part of that genetic layout. So no wonder my barrel of toxicity is full, no wonder I can't fight the tick borne diseases nor the mono thus my body then reacts to EMF's b/c it can't defend itself.
Kris





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From: Evie <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Wed, February 10, 2010 11:50:36 AM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Merury tox:was: Re: simple, cheap and easy tips requested

Hi again, Kris,

Do you live or work where there are alot of ticks or hike alot? Just asking because I know people who do all of these on a regular basis and yet never get a tick-borne illness. I, on the other hand, have been a walking parasite magnet. But my original point was, what makes you and me so special? If you can answer that, you can possibly close a door which invites parasitic infections. Mono is another example. Almost everyone comes into contact with epstein-barre virus. Not everyone is unlucky enough to have on-going high titers of EBV.

If you have a wheat intolerance, it is important to make that a high priority, because it is one of the avenues which opens the tight junctions in the body, allowing chemicals and tick-borne and other "bugs" access to the brain and various organs. It would probably also be a good idea to find out what other "glutens", if any, you react to. Some people also have problems with rye and barley; still others also have problems with millet and oats (and rye and barley). And, one with gluten intolerance may have dairy intolerance which hikes along. (Or just dairy intolerance on its own.) Any of these foods can cause gut permeability +/or tj opening to those with intolerance. (And approx a third of people with celiac disease, in particular, have no apparent symptoms.) Yes, I understand that the tick-borne viruses went directly into your blood-stream, but this most likely happens relatively often to normal people and doesn't cause a
problem. But how did those end up infecting *your* body? Many will think it is due to a weak immune-system, but for those with gluten intolerances, this is not the case. Most often people with gluten intolerance have over-active immune systems (possibly as a result of having to deal with so many parasitic invaders). Since you know you have wheat allergy, I would automatically think this played some part in your parasitic problem, and so it would behoove you to be especially vigilant in avoiding wheat.

Again, only my 2 cents; run with it or not (I do understand how difficult it is to prioritize needs when you are working with multiple problems. I face/faced this my entire life as well.)

Diane





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From: K <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Merury tox:was: Re: simple, cheap and easy tips requested
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, February 9, 2010, 5:54 PM






yeah I do have mild wheat allergies. These parasites are from ticks. I take probiotics on a daily basis, I have to, I have GI issues due to the Sphincter of Oddi dysfunction that I had surgery for in Dec 2008 six months after they took my gall bladder out thinking that what was the problem. :(
Kris

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From: Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com>
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tue, February 9, 2010 4:01:09 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Merury tox:was: Re: simple, cheap and easy tips requested

Hi, Kris,

Have you ever looked into gut permeability/ gluten intolerance/ celiac disease/or casein intolerance? I bring this up because there is *some* good reason why you have all of these parasitic conditions (unless you have lived in a third world country or with horrible sanitation, which is not likely). I was a parasitic mess, too; my parasites were due to celiac disease which caused a great amount of gut damage and allowed toxins of all types (esp "bugs") access to the rest of my body. I also have alot of chemical toxin buildup due to the blood-brain barrier breaching which takes place with celiac disease. A great place for you to start would be to close the doors which are allowing all this crap in, if you could pin that down.

Just my 2 cents; I don't know if any of this is relevant to your situation,
Diane

--- On Tue, 2/9/10, K <kfarming@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: K <kfarming@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Merury tox:was: Re: simple, cheap and easy tips requested
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, February 9, 2010, 8:00 AM

Yeah, I'm sure my adrenals are fatigued, I don't know about mercury tox, my mono levels are elevated(found out yesterday) but being recently diagnosed with Babesia, Erhlichia, with lyme's being indeterminate, I guess I need to focus on this treatment first?
Kris

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From: svetaswan <svetaswan@yahoo. com>
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, February 8, 2010 10:48:36 PM
Subject: [eSens] Re: simple, cheap and easy tips requested

Hi Kris,

I have suspected that I'm mercury-toxic - and before I got "sidetracked" by my electrosensitivity crisis I had been trying to educate myself about Hg toxicity/detox and trying to take steps toward amalgam removal and chelation. In exploring what is on the 'Net about this, I somehow came across the work of Andrew Cutler. Many people who have struggled with mercury toxicty, and suffered through failed detoxes - have become strong "disciples" of Andy Cutler's method of chelation. Where many other methods of chelation failed, these people claim that Andy's method was tremendously helpful. Cutler says that there are many chelation protocols that are simply ineffective - and may actually make the problem worse instead of better. (He also claims that many of the "tests" done are inaccurate.) It could be that you are in fact mercury toxic, and are a "victim" of an ineffective method of chelation.

According to Andy and his followers - you can only succeed in truly getting the mercury out of your body by taking small, frequent doses of ALA along with DMSA, or just ALA alone. ("Freqent Doses" means once every 3 or 4 hours - even through the night.) One might have to start with VERY small doses of ALA and DMSA in order to tolerate the rigors of chelation. If the doses of ALA and DMSA aren't taken frequently enough - you don't succeed in actually moving the mercury out of your body. Doses that are not frequent enough only redistribute the mercury throughout your body. A 100mg capsule of ALA or RLA taken once daily can actually do more harm than good, according to Cutler.

I won't elaborate any more - I'll just give you a link to a website that he keeps through which you can order his highly-esteemed books (many people swear by these books as "definitive" sources on mercury/heavy- metal toxicity and "proper" chelation): www.noamalgam. com

Also, you might be interested in joining the "Frequent Dose Chelation" Yahoo! group - which is filled with people either going through Andy Cutler's chelation protocol, or preparing themselves for it. This group is a good way to keep up with updated information (Andy himself has posted there occassionally) and learn from some very knowledgable people.

I know what you may be thinking - "Yeah, another guy proclaiming himself to be an 'expert' - what else is new?" - you may be skepical. But once you explore the Frequent Dose Chelation group, read archived posts from people following this protocol (and old posts from Andy himself), and read Andy's books - there is a good chance that you will be convinced that the guy and his protocol are legit, to say the least.

~Svetaswan

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Hi Rixta,

There are huge powerlines OUTSIDE your house? Electricity is low frequent and I don't think there are efficient shielding materials for shielding low frequencies...

The problem could also be the electricity/wireless phone/internet IN YOUR HOUSE. At night you could turn off power (electricity) at the electric/fuse panel. You may feel the difference...

Best regards,
Stephen.






--- In [hidden email], "Rixta Francis" <rixta.francis@...> wrote:

It could be, but I doubt it. I always had phone, computer, microwave etc. etc. in the house and never got sick from it. But we moved to this house and off that moment my health got worse. And this house is surrounded by powerlines. Makes more sense to think about the outside influence than what's inside. After all this is a simple home, no bricks but hardiplank, with a tin roof. Anything can get through the walls and roof.

Rixta

Hi Rixta,

There are huge powerlines OUTSIDE your house? Electricity is low frequent and I don't think there are efficient shielding materials for shielding low frequencies...

The problem could also be the electricity/wireless phone/internet IN YOUR HOUSE. At night you could turn off power (electricity) at the electric/fuse panel. You may feel the difference...

Best regards,
Stephen.






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> It could be, but I doubt it. I always had phone, computer, microwave etc.
> etc. in the house and never got sick from it.

What about dimmer switches? Any dimmer switches in the new house?

Or florescent lights? Any of these? (compact or long tube)

Did you get high speed internet (cable or DSL) in the new house?

Reducing your exposure to any of the above might help...

Marc

Hi Rixta,

Yes it probably will be from the outside, I've once read that you should keep at least 300 feet (100 metres) away from power lines...

But it still could be from the inside as well, for instance:

-you sleep closer to the wireless phone/wifi emitter than in your previous home

-there is terrestial radiaton (just above your bed)

-...


--- In [hidden email], "Rixta Francis" <rixta.francis@...> wrote:

In a message dated 13/02/2010 02:00:20 GMT Standard Time,
[hidden email] writes:

that the high voltage wires that are all around our house *could* be the
cause of my problems. But I don't know that for sure


PUK REPLIES - Hi Rixta

You say hv power lines all around the house - What power/how close
(distance is your best defence) ? I would give you following blind advice - stay
away from the house and vicinty for long periods, break the cycle of
decline, yes do meter to find hot spots in your house especially places where you
spend a lot of time such as your bedroom, dont sleep in a metal bed or
metal sprung matress. Consider getting rid of as much large metal objects in
your house as possible, certainly do not spend long periods close to any
large metal objects especially lamps anything plugged in to the mains. Your
tin roof may be conducting large electrical feilds and re-radiating them, it
may also have become magnetised ?consider a method of earthing this?
Consider ground currents, consider corona ions around the HV powerlines leading
to increased risk of pollutants lodging in your lungs not good if you are
MCS.( you can google this) Use an AM radio tuned out to white noise say
1600khz (end of dial) to check that your house does not have a major issue with
dirty power phenomenon, if so locate the scource and try to remediate it -
know your enemy !

PUK


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In a message dated 13/02/2010 00:45:27 GMT Standard Time,
[hidden email] writes:

Makes more sense to think about the outside influence than what's inside.
After all this is a simple home, no bricks but hardiplank, with a tin roof.
Anything can get through the walls and roof.

Rixta



puk replies - Depending on how powerful and what distance the powerlines
are short of standing directly below them you are pretty much worse off in
the home than outside as the electromagnetic feilds will pass through you
thin wall/windows, your house may act as a compounder to the effects due to
all the wires, metal objects, gadgets/appliances in a confined space, the tin
roof may be making things worse ? If you have a small basement you could
try to convert this into a faraday cage, but hey who wants to live in a
cage !!!!

puk


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In a message dated 13/02/2010 00:45:27 GMT Standard Time,
[hidden email] writes:

Hi Rixta,

There are huge powerlines OUTSIDE your house? Electricity is low frequent
and I don't think there are efficient shielding materials for shielding low
frequencies.The



PUK REPLIES HI Rixta - Forgot to mention another reason to get/hire a meter
you might find that your house is in the main beam of a cell phone mast
whreas your neighbours might be getting away with it, so again you need to
check this.


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Hi Rixta,

Yes, as mentioned by Puk, the tin roof might be the problem,

I hadn't thought of it at first but something similar made me sick last year after moving in my new home... After one month I (accidentally) discovered that the isolation in the ceiling was (partially) a reflective aluminium foil. Later I removed all the aluminium foil and the problem was solved...




--- In [hidden email], paulpjc@... wrote:

Hallo,
high voltage lines easily can be neutralized through an electrosmog
neutralizing device fixed to the metallic structure of the nearest mast. I have
done so and it worked up to a distance of 2,5 km.
Dietrich Grueb M.D.


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Have a Home Biologist come & test your home or buy the equipment yourself. They normally have more sensitive equipment to test with. Buying those ourselves can be very costly.
 
I spent about $500 however having my house tested last year.   Loni

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To: [hidden email]
Date: Saturday, February 13, 2010, 3:56 AM


 




In a message dated 13/02/2010 00:45:27 GMT Standard Time,
rixta.francis@ westnet.com. au writes:

Hi Rixta,

There are huge powerlines OUTSIDE your house? Electricity is low frequent
and I don't think there are efficient shielding materials for shielding low
frequencies. The

PUK REPLIES HI Rixta - Forgot to mention another reason to get/hire a meter
you might find that your house is in the main beam of a cell phone mast
whreas your neighbours might be getting away with it, so again you need to
check this.

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> After all this is a simple home, no bricks but hardiplank, with a tin
> roof.

As others have said, the tin roof could be a problem, acting as an
attractor for EMF. Although I think some people here have run grounding
wires from things like this to improve their situation???

Marc

Hey Stephen, Do you mean insulation? Loni

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Subject: [eSens] Re: simple, cheap and easy tips requested
To: [hidden email]
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Hi Rixta,

Yes, as mentioned by Puk, the tin roof might be the problem,

I hadn't thought of it at first but something similar made me sick last year after moving in my new home... After one month I (accidentally) discovered that the isolation in the ceiling was (partially) a reflective aluminium foil. Later I removed all the aluminium foil and the problem was solved...

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Hi to all,
 
Does anyone know how common it is for there to be aluminum foil used as insulation in the ceiling as was mentioned? So many people could be effected by this and not have a clue about it being there...
 
Thanks,
 
Cheryl

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To: [hidden email]
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Hey Stephen, Do you mean insulation? Loni

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Subject: [eSens] Re: simple, cheap and easy tips requested
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Saturday, February 13, 2010, 4:35 AM

 

Hi Rixta,

Yes, as mentioned by Puk, the tin roof might be the problem,

I hadn't thought of it at first but something similar made me sick last year after moving in my new home... After one month I (accidentally) discovered that the isolation in the ceiling was (partially) a reflective aluminium foil. Later I removed all the aluminium foil and the problem was solved...

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Yes ya know I was thinking the same thing. How exactly does that effect us.Great point Stephen. Good to know that removing it made a difference for you also. Loni

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From: Cheryl Griffing <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: simple, cheap and easy tips requested
To: [hidden email]
Date: Saturday, February 13, 2010, 12:08 PM


 



Hi to all,
 
Does anyone know how common it is for there to be aluminum foil used as insulation in the ceiling as was mentioned? So many people could be effected by this and not have a clue about it being there...
 
Thanks,
 
Cheryl

--- On Sat, 2/13/10, Loni <loni326@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Loni <loni326@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: simple, cheap and easy tips requested
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Saturday, February 13, 2010, 10:34 AM

 

Hey Stephen, Do you mean insulation? Loni

--- On Sat, 2/13/10, stephen_vandevijver e <stephen_vandevijve r [hidden email]> wrote:

From: stephen_vandevijver e <stephen_vandevijve r [hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: simple, cheap and easy tips requested
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Saturday, February 13, 2010, 4:35 AM

 

Hi Rixta,

Yes, as mentioned by Puk, the tin roof might be the problem,

I hadn't thought of it at first but something similar made me sick last year after moving in my new home... After one month I (accidentally) discovered that the isolation in the ceiling was (partially) a reflective aluminium foil. Later I removed all the aluminium foil and the problem was solved...

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Hi,

Loni: it was insulation material I meant. So the material to make sure the warmth stays in your house.

On my ceiling, it was standard material but with a "layer" of aluminium foil on it.

It was serious work to remove it because the insulation (incl. aluminium foil) was fitted twice. We had to break up the inside of the ceiling. But also the roof: there are more or less two roofs on top of each other!

When I moved in I handn't thought of it either but over here (in Belgium; Europe) I don't think it is exceptional that there is aluminium foil in the insulation material.

Recently in new/modern houses, I think it is often used on the walls. Especially on the wall where the heater is situated, then the aluminium foil reflects the heat inside... I checked that as well in my house but thank God that's not the case.

Of course aluminium foil is also used as a shield for EMF, but as I've readhere and if I understand correctly then you should ground it...

greets,
Stephen.


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