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i feel i am on to something here and i need your help marc. have you ever scanned your quantum device with a AM radio? or a meter of some sort? the reason i ask is that after a rough christmas in town, i remembered that i borrowed a sleep device called somnius to my mum years ago. this is a programable device which emits frequencies. i turned it into a portable device today. i cut the wire and connected it to battery.
all frequency devices emits frequency. i am just really curious to what your portable quantum device sounds like. i have mine on a solfeggio meditation program right now and i felt really grounded the second., or at least after 10 second i turned it on. i have read up on solfeggio frequencies... and... i dont get this hidden bible frequency thing. still i got grounded. this is a programable device. the reason i feel i am on to something is; counter bad frequencies with good frequencies. do you know what range or frequency your device is working on? needed to run outta town after 5 sleep deprived nights today. i am not complaining. just saying. lots of worse stuff going on. anyways. while we thrive. maybe we can figure out a way to handle this unhuman frequency enviroment. my device is from nutesla.com(somnius) its programable so i just need to figure out. something. where to blast. hehe cheers all. meery christmas =) =) note:my 4g phone hits 30 times harder. i wrotes this on my phone. did anybody say subtle energy sensitive??? where is my app.. "restore energy field" ;) |
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I have not done any measuring of the Quantum Products devices, although I'm sure that they are emitting frequencies of some sort. We used to have someone on this group named Vinny Pinto, and he once put his Quantum Home up for sale on eBay, and I saved his description. Here is a relevant passage from that description:
"How the Quantum Home Device Works The manufacturer and the vendors/resellers of this particular device have always been rather coy in terms of disclosing the technolgoy behind the device, and they have managed to never really disclose in all of their marketing material exactly what technology is incorporated in the Quanum Home device, nor how it works. However, based upon some early online marketing material offered by the manufacturer a number of years ago (and no longer available), and also based upon my own research and upon conversations with vendors of similar products from the same manufacturer, I can tell you that the device appears to employ two separate technologies working toegether. It contains some digital electronic circuitry, including a microprocessor chip, and the circuitry generates a number of frequencies (all in the range between 0 Hz and 250 kHz) that the manufacturer believes to be "magic frequencies" for alleviating or neutralizing electrosmog subtle energies, and/or for creating a soothing and calming space effect; these signals are fed into a "quantum" type exotic antenna mounted on the circuit board. It also appears that the device was treated, after assembly, with a "30thplus generation" radionic treatment, that is, with intent programming, and thus this device also appears to incorporate intent technology. When I tested this device in my laboratory, I liked the overall effect, and I found it to be quite useful for use in a home or small office, but I did not like the effects as much as the space effects exhibited by my own Coherent Space Quantum Coherence devices (which I never sell as consumer items, and rather, are offered only as PoP prototype research devices and offered only to researchers and experimenters) such as my SHO-05 device." |
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ok thanks
did not get was i was looking for. close thread please |
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All those devices do work with *longitudinal waves*.
One way of another. See Gebbensleben. |
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In reply to this post by Marc Martin
I was thinking of getting a Quantum Home 3 pronged wall surge protector to use at work where my computer and network equipment are plugged in.
I have been feeling worse lately and it may be because the new manager installed a wireless router in her office which is about 12 feet from mine. She installed it because her cell phone wasn't getting a strong enough signal from the wireless router in the clubhouse which is around 50 feet from our offices. I know it won't do anything for the wireless but I was hoping if the electric could be calmed down a little maybe I won't feel so bad. The thing about the surge protectors is that I don't know if they open it up and install some of their own circuitry. If not, what exactly would make it do anything other than basic surge protection? I don't know what to do about the wi-fi other than find a new job, which may or may not have the same issue in an office. |
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You may be able to shield part of the wall, unless the place is some sort of open office.
The radiation goes pretty much in a straight line, apart from reflections, which make the thing tricky, and other issues. However there's emf everywhere, from monitors, routers even with wifi disabled, adsl-cables ( cat7 is the least evil ), electrical wires, mice and keyboards, mobile and dect phones, fluorescent and led lamps, smart-meters, light-dimmers, and what else, thus escaping is no more an option, only increasing ones health and vitality, and avoiding the worst can be done. So the first thing seems to be to eat healthy ( in my view : no meat, no sugar, no bread, lots of fruits and vegetables, preferable raw, and enough water but not much during or after or before meals ), sleep well ( early hours are better ) and in a low emf and low mold environment. This means of course no fl-s or led-s, microwave-oven, wireless shit in the house and no wires near the bed, nor dect or wifi from neighbours, nor cell- or broadcast-towers, no synthetic surfaces, and open windows for fresh air. Then avoid exposure to the strongest unnatural fields which likely are the most criminal, so never use mobile or dect phones except on the speaker-phone at a distance of two meter or more, and stay away from people watching films on their dumb phones. Third, sit back when behind a monitor and don't use a computer to get lost but only on purpose, as little as possible. Personally i carry a gimmick called "bioprotect"-card that seems to help somehow and is cheap, which you may openly or secretly shove into that damned router, especially after having a similar experience with it while wearing it. Perhaps these recommendations are all nothing new for you ( edit : i see your number of messages now ... ), in that case someone else may still appreciate this simple-minded response here, so i'll push the "post" button anyway. |
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On December 27, "steve [via ES]" <[hidden email]> wrote:
> The thing about the surge protectors is that I don't know if they open it up > and install some of their own circuitry. If not, what exactly would make it > do anything other than basic surge protection? The surge protectors that are sold by Quantum Products look exactly like their commercial counterparts (e.g. whatever companies surge protectors they are using at the moment), both on the inside and outside. What they do to them they don't say, but I imagine that they "treat" them, maybe cyrogenically or magnetically, or maybe something else. Whatever it is, it does make a difference, as I once compared a the exact same power strip that I got from Quantum Product and a local hardware store, and my tolerance for the local environment was obviously different. You could have done a double-blind test on me and I'd be able to pick which was which, even though they appeared to be exactly the same. That all said, don't expect miracles. If you are very sensitive and bothered by your current environment, one surge protector could help a little. But if you're not that sensitive, then you may not notice any difference. Marc |
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This post was updated on .
At my workplace, I have a Quantum Pro, which helps with the florescent lights and computers, a Quantum power strip that I have the computer plugged into, and a Quantum Companion in my pocket. There was a time that I couldn't tolerate my workplace at all (on leave for almost a year), but this product line got me back into the office.
Although if you've got someone who sits next to at work that uses a 4G LTE iPhone, then that's still problematic for me, but sometimes you can find yourself a desk that's away from that. Marc |
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In the Office it's open with a door to the separate offices but no way to avoid it really. At home I use no wi-fi at all and the only thing electric in my room is my air purifier. I have 2 smart meters down below my bedroom window (there were 4, I paid to have 2 of them replaced, the other 2 belong to my neighbors). I'm sure my neighbors have wi-fi.
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I am sensitive. I actually have a couple of the 3 outlet Quantum plug in at home, not sure if they do anything but they haven't hurt either. On your recommendation I purchased a Furman power strip/line conditioner that I think helped. I actually have 3 now-one for my TV/DVR, one for my Computer and one for my bedroom for my air purifier. After using one on my TV and seeing how the vocals improved (the sound is almost 3D in it's spatiality on my headphones-I almost jump sometimes because it seems like someone is behind me). That sold me on the quality of these things. They are also built like a tank and reasonably priced ($90) I really want to try the Quantum Pro for my apartment but I can't get myself to shell out the $500 for something the company really can't explain very well. I may just get another 3 prong Quantum for work, plug the power strip into it and see what happens. It's only $30 Steve
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I would love to try all that but the cost is too much. I wonder if the companion would help without the Pro? They switched from incandescent to all LED but I didn't notice any change in my symptoms other than they hurt my eyes a little. Steve
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> I would love to try all that but the cost is too much. I wonder if the companion would help without the Pro?
The Quantum Companion is pretty weak compared to the Pro, and also fairly expensive too. However, I use the Companion for when I'm "out and about", which is often when my problems with EMF are their worst. The Quantum Pro is also rebadged and sold as the "Clarity Pro" in the UK, as an expensive hi-fi system add-on, but their description isn't a whole lot better, and they are even more expensive than what Quantum Products charges (and no mention of health benefits, although it's the exact same technology) http://www.russandrews.com/russ-andrews-clarity-pro-standard-power-supply-uk/ MArc |
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Interesting. Yeah, the companion is expensive. I'm still considering the Pro for use in my apartment but I actually feel worse at work. So annoying Steve
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steve, i don't know about your air purifier,
but the ones at the house where i live are really intensely EMFish. i use a negative ion generator to clean my air and it works very well with no EMF. i bought it many years ago from negativeIonGenerators.com. i think they're less than $150 and humble, but effective. i've used them for more than 30 years... Robert Gray, author of "The Colon Health Handbook" recommended them and he was a personal friend, so i started using them long ago. i really hate the air purifiers in the main house. sorry. i know they're expensive, but you couldn't give one to me. :( love, patricia On Dec 27, 2015, at 5:37 PM, steve [via ES] wrote:
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Hi Patricia, I actually have one of those same negative ion generators. I find if I leave it on all the time it gives me insomnia and irritates my sinuses. I only use it when it hasn't rained in a while or if I feel sick and want to clean out the air. I have a Aireox Purifier and tested it with my meter. It gives off EMFs up close but at my bed or even just a few feet away from it it doesn't register at all. I have MCS and this little unit gets rid of formaldehyde and other gases and odors. Steve
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It seems that on the intake forms for Dr. Grace Ziem in Maryland, considered tops in the nation for treating ES & MCS, she had asked if the patient used a negative ion air purifier on a list of other typically considered harmful devices to the electrically sensitive.
I never did find out what was so bad about a negative ion generator air filter. Would anyone know why these devices would be considered harmful to ES persons? From: steve [via ES] <ml-node+[hidden email]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 9:01 PM To: Fog Top Subject: [ES] Re: quantum products Hi Patricia,
I actually have one of those same negative ion generators. I find if I leave it on all the time it gives me insomnia and irritates my sinuses. I only use it when
it hasn't rained in a while or if I feel sick and want to clean out the air.
I have a Aireox Purifier and tested it with my meter. It gives off EMFs up close but at my bed or even just a few feet away from it it doesn't register at all.
I have MCS and this little unit gets rid of formaldehyde and other gases and odors.
Steve
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I suppose it depends on how exactly the ions are created. If they are created in a way that dumps a lot of RF into the environment, then of course that would be bad. Also, often the amount of ions created by these generators are way beyond anything that would be considered "natural".
I recall the days when I was experimenting with negative ion generators myself. I recall getting "pins & needles" on my skin, which seems like a fairly common ES symptom. Eventually I ended up using UV bulbs that created minimal amounts of ozone and ions, which were tolerable to me and got rid of the odors I was trying to get rid of at the time (from cat boxes). But these still had a "wall-wart" transformer, so did provoke some ES symptoms. Marc > I never did find out what was so bad about a negative ion generator air filter. Would anyone know why these devices would be > considered harmful to ES persons? |
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wow. that is interesting.
mine doesn't emit much emf, so i wonder what it does that might contribute to ES. ? i wonder what is worse... NIGenerators or the chemicals in chemtrails? that's why i primarily use them now. my negative ion generator made all the difference in the world when i lived in a condo next to people who appeared to be manufacturing drugs. and i had another 'thing' that was supposed to be a negative ion generator but which really put out quite a bit of positive ions... it was a very intense machine and put out a lot of noise and EMF. i used it very rarely. i wonder what kind were owned by ES people? since i've owned and used them for decades, it would be rather ironic if that was a major cause. thanks. love, patricia On Dec 29, 2015, at 10:04 PM, Fog Top [via ES] wrote:
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marc, i tried to get some UV lightbulbs years ago and could not.
where did you get yours? thanks. love, patricia On Dec 29, 2015, at 10:32 PM, Marc Martin [via ES] wrote: I suppose it depends on how exactly the ions are created. If they are created in a way that dumps a lot of RF into the environment, then of course that would be bad. Also, often the amount of ions created by these generators are way beyond anything that would be considered "natural". |
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The air purifiers from Biozone Scientific are (or were, when I bought them) UV lights with a fan. And some of the really old models didn't even have a fan.
Marc On December 29, "Patricia [via ES]" <[hidden email]> wrote: > marc, i tried to get some UV lightbulbs years ago and could not. > where did you get yours? |
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