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Patricia

Re: quantum products

i am determining there are negative ion generators -

and then there are negative ion generators... or

negative ion generator air filters etc... might be

very different beasts. but just in case, i unplugged

the one closest to me in this office. testing...1..2..3.

? if there is more info about which ones harm,

i'd love to know. maybe all - or maybe just some,

like the big air cleaners that use SOME negative ions.

????

thanks, dear.

love, patricia

On Dec 29, 2015, at 10:04 PM, Fog Top [via ES] wrote:

It seems that on the intake forms for Dr. Grace Ziem in Maryland, considered tops in the nation for treating ES & MCS, she had asked if the patient used a negative ion air purifier on a list of other typically considered harmful devices to the electrically sensitive.

I never did find out what was so bad about a negative ion generator air filter. Would anyone know why these devices would be considered harmful to ES persons?

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Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 9:01 PM
To: Fog Top
Subject: [ES] Re: quantum products

Hi Patricia,

I actually have one of those same negative ion generators. I find if I leave it on all the time it gives me insomnia and irritates my sinuses. I only use it when it hasn't rained in a while or if I feel sick and want to clean out the air.

I have a Aireox Purifier and tested it with my meter. It gives off EMFs up close but at my bed or even just a few feet away from it it doesn't register at all.

I have MCS and this little unit gets rid of formaldehyde and other gases and odors.

Steve

From: Patricia [via ES] <<a id="LPlnk838281" href="x-msg://361/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4028586&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow" link="external">[hidden email]>
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Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 12:03 PM
Subject: [ES] Re: quantum products

steve, i don't know about your air purifier,
but the ones at the house where i live are

really intensely EMFish. i use a negative

ion generator to clean my air and it works

very well with no EMF. i bought it many

years ago from negativeIonGenerators.com.

i think they're less than $150 and humble,

but effective. i've used them for more than

30 years... Robert Gray, author of "The

Colon Health Handbook" recommended

them and he was a personal friend, so i

started using them long ago. i really hate

the air purifiers in the main house. sorry.

i know they're expensive, but you couldn't

give one to me. :(

love, patricia

On Dec 27, 2015, at 5:37 PM, steve [via ES] wrote:

I am sensitive. I actually have a couple of the 3 outlet Quantum plug in at home, not sure if they do anything but they haven't hurt either.

On your recommendation I purchased a Furman power strip/line conditioner that I think helped. I actually have 3 now-one for my TV/DVR, one for my Computer and one for my bedroom for my air purifier.

After using one on my TV and seeing how the vocals improved (the sound is almost 3D in it's spatiality on my headphones-I almost jump sometimes because it seems like someone is behind me). That sold me on the quality of these things. They are also built like a tank and reasonably priced ($90)

I really want to try the Quantum Pro for my apartment but I can't get myself to shell out the $500 for something the company really can't explain very well.

I may just get another 3 prong Quantum for work, plug the power strip into it and see what happens. It's only $30

Steve

From: Marc Martin [via ES] <<a href="<a href="x-msg://304/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&amp;node=4028567&amp;i=0">x-msg://304/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4028567&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow" link="external">[hidden email]>
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Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 1:19 PM
Subject: [ES] Re: quantum products

On December 27, "steve [via ES]" <<a rel="nofollow" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1451258429107_6248" href="<a href="x-msg://304/">x-msg://304/" target="_top" link="external">[hidden email]> wrote:
> The thing about the surge protectors is that I don't know if they open it up
> and install some of their own circuitry. If not, what exactly would make it
> do anything other than basic surge protection?

The surge protectors that are sold by Quantum Products look exactly like their commercial counterparts (e.g. whatever companies surge protectors they are using at the moment), both on the inside and outside. What they do to them they don't say, but I imagine that they "treat" them, maybe cyrogenically or magnetically, or maybe something else. Whatever it is, it does make a difference, as I once compared a the exact same power strip that I got from Quantum Product and a local hardware store, and my tolerance for the local environment was obviously different. You could have done a double-blind test on me and I'd be able to pick which was which, even though they appeared to be exactly the same.

That all said, don't expect miracles. If you are very sensitive and bothered by your current environment, one surge protector could help a little. But if you're not that sensitive, then you may not notice any difference.

Marc

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Patricia

Re: quantum products

In reply to this post by steve

oh, you only want to use a negative ion

generator away from where you sit, sleep...

not up close. i have one about 8 feet

away and another about 30 feet away.

and i just turned off the closer one this

morning.

can you put yours on low? what kind is

yours? i've owned many brands but my

favorite is a simple small box with a little

stick that apparently emits the negative

ions... but i've had the 'sharper image'

tall things and one that was a box with

fans and things... very bad one. very

loud and very annoying but did not seem

to work as well as the little one, which

just sits there, silently.

love, patricia

On Dec 29, 2015, at 3:01 PM, steve [via ES] wrote:

Hi Patricia,

I actually have one of those same negative ion generators. I find if I leave it on all the time it gives me insomnia and irritates my sinuses. I only use it when it hasn't rained in a while or if I feel sick and want to clean out the air.
I have a Aireox Purifier and tested it with my meter. It gives off EMFs up close but at my bed or even just a few feet away from it it doesn't register at all.
I have MCS and this little unit gets rid of formaldehyde and other gases and odors.
Steve

From: Patricia [via ES] <<a href="x-msg://354/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4028586&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow" link="external">[hidden email]>
To: steve <<a href="x-msg://354/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4028586&i=1" target="_top" rel="nofollow" link="external">[hidden email]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 12:03 PM
Subject: [ES] Re: quantum products

steve, i don't know about your air purifier,
but the ones at the house where i live are
really intensely EMFish. i use a negative
ion generator to clean my air and it works
very well with no EMF. i bought it many
years ago from negativeIonGenerators.com.
i think they're less than $150 and humble,
but effective. i've used them for more than
30 years... Robert Gray, author of "The
Colon Health Handbook" recommended
them and he was a personal friend, so i
started using them long ago. i really hate
the air purifiers in the main house. sorry.
i know they're expensive, but you couldn't
give one to me. :(

love, patricia

On Dec 27, 2015, at 5:37 PM, steve [via ES] wrote:

I am sensitive. I actually have a couple of the 3 outlet Quantum plug in at home, not sure if they do anything but they haven't hurt either.
On your recommendation I purchased a Furman power strip/line conditioner that I think helped. I actually have 3 now-one for my TV/DVR, one for my Computer and one for my bedroom for my air purifier.
After using one on my TV and seeing how the vocals improved (the sound is almost 3D in it's spatiality on my headphones-I almost jump sometimes because it seems like someone is behind me). That sold me on the quality of these things. They are also built like a tank and reasonably priced ($90)
I really want to try the Quantum Pro for my apartment but I can't get myself to shell out the $500 for something the company really can't explain very well.

I may just get another 3 prong Quantum for work, plug the power strip into it and see what happens. It's only $30
Steve

From: Marc Martin [via ES] <<a href="<a href="x-msg://304/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&amp;node=4028567&amp;i=0">x-msg://304/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4028567&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow" link="external">[hidden email]>
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Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 1:19 PM
Subject: [ES] Re: quantum products

On December 27, "steve [via ES]" <<a rel="nofollow" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1451258429107_6248" href="<a href="x-msg://304/">x-msg://304/" target="_top" link="external">[hidden email]> wrote:
> The thing about the surge protectors is that I don't know if they open it up
> and install some of their own circuitry. If not, what exactly would make it
> do anything other than basic surge protection?

The surge protectors that are sold by Quantum Products look exactly like their commercial counterparts (e.g. whatever companies surge protectors they are using at the moment), both on the inside and outside. What they do to them they don't say, but I imagine that they "treat" them, maybe cyrogenically or magnetically, or maybe something else. Whatever it is, it does make a difference, as I once compared a the exact same power strip that I got from Quantum Product and a local hardware store, and my tolerance for the local environment was obviously different. You could have done a double-blind test on me and I'd be able to pick which was which, even though they appeared to be exactly the same.

That all said, don't expect miracles. If you are very sensitive and bothered by your current environment, one surge protector could help a little. But if you're not that sensitive, then you may not notice any difference.

Marc

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steve

Re: quantum products

I have the same one you have, there is no setting.

My apt, is small so the furthest I can keep it away is about 12 feet

From: Patricia [via ES] <[hidden email]>
To: steve <[hidden email]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 4:25 PM
Subject: [ES] Re: quantum products

oh, you only want to use a negative ion
generator away from where you sit, sleep...
not up close. i have one about 8 feet
away and another about 30 feet away.
and i just turned off the closer one this
morning.
can you put yours on low? what kind is
yours? i've owned many brands but my
favorite is a simple small box with a little
stick that apparently emits the negative
ions... but i've had the 'sharper image'
tall things and one that was a box with
fans and things... very bad one. very
loud and very annoying but did not seem
to work as well as the little one, which
just sits there, silently.
love, patricia

On Dec 29, 2015, at 3:01 PM, steve [via ES] wrote:

Hi Patricia,

I actually have one of those same negative ion generators. I find if I leave it on all the time it gives me insomnia and irritates my sinuses. I only use it when it hasn't rained in a while or if I feel sick and want to clean out the air.
I have a Aireox Purifier and tested it with my meter. It gives off EMFs up close but at my bed or even just a few feet away from it it doesn't register at all.
I have MCS and this little unit gets rid of formaldehyde and other gases and odors.
Steve

From: Patricia [via ES] <<a href="x-msg://354/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4028586&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow" link="external">[hidden email]>
To: steve <<a href="x-msg://354/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4028586&i=1" target="_top" rel="nofollow" link="external">[hidden email]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 12:03 PM
Subject: [ES] Re: quantum products

steve, i don't know about your air purifier,
but the ones at the house where i live are
really intensely EMFish. i use a negative
ion generator to clean my air and it works
very well with no EMF. i bought it many
years ago from negativeIonGenerators.com.
i think they're less than $150 and humble,
but effective. i've used them for more than
30 years... Robert Gray, author of "The
Colon Health Handbook" recommended
them and he was a personal friend, so i
started using them long ago. i really hate
the air purifiers in the main house. sorry.
i know they're expensive, but you couldn't
give one to me. :(

love, patricia

On Dec 27, 2015, at 5:37 PM, steve [via ES] wrote:

I am sensitive. I actually have a couple of the 3 outlet Quantum plug in at home, not sure if they do anything but they haven't hurt either.
On your recommendation I purchased a Furman power strip/line conditioner that I think helped. I actually have 3 now-one for my TV/DVR, one for my Computer and one for my bedroom for my air purifier.
After using one on my TV and seeing how the vocals improved (the sound is almost 3D in it's spatiality on my headphones-I almost jump sometimes because it seems like someone is behind me). That sold me on the quality of these things. They are also built like a tank and reasonably priced ($90)
I really want to try the Quantum Pro for my apartment but I can't get myself to shell out the $500 for something the company really can't explain very well.

I may just get another 3 prong Quantum for work, plug the power strip into it and see what happens. It's only $30
Steve

From: Marc Martin [via ES] <<a href="<a href="x-msg://304/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&amp;node=4028567&amp;i=0">x-msg://304/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4028567&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow" link="external">[hidden email]>
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Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 1:19 PM
Subject: [ES] Re: quantum products

On December 27, "steve [via ES]" <<a rel="nofollow" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1451258429107_6248" href="<a href="x-msg://304/">x-msg://304/" target="_top" link="external">[hidden email]> wrote:
> The thing about the surge protectors is that I don't know if they open it up
> and install some of their own circuitry. If not, what exactly would make it
> do anything other than basic surge protection?

The surge protectors that are sold by Quantum Products look exactly like their commercial counterparts (e.g. whatever companies surge protectors they are using at the moment), both on the inside and outside. What they do to them they don't say, but I imagine that they "treat" them, maybe cyrogenically or magnetically, or maybe something else. Whatever it is, it does make a difference, as I once compared a the exact same power strip that I got from Quantum Product and a local hardware store, and my tolerance for the local environment was obviously different. You could have done a double-blind test on me and I'd be able to pick which was which, even though they appeared to be exactly the same.

That all said, don't expect miracles. If you are very sensitive and bothered by your current environment, one surge protector could help a little. But if you're not that sensitive, then you may not notice any difference.

Marc

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Patricia

Re: quantum products

well, then, it's probably best not to use it a lot.

make sure you never hurt yourself in any way.

the "no pain no gain" adage is not good advice.

take good care of yourself.

my space here is pretty big. 20x40

and i used it in my condo on the balcony, so

it covered a lot of territory. it was the only

NIG that i kept on always. the others were

used only in extreme circumstances. :)

love, patricia

On Dec 30, 2015, at 7:37 PM, steve [via ES] wrote:

I have the same one you have, there is no setting.
My apt, is small so the furthest I can keep it away is about 12 feet

From: Patricia [via ES] <<a href="x-msg://563/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4028600&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow" link="external">[hidden email]>
To: steve <<a href="x-msg://563/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4028600&i=1" target="_top" rel="nofollow" link="external">[hidden email]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 4:25 PM
Subject: [ES] Re: quantum products

oh, you only want to use a negative ion
generator away from where you sit, sleep...
not up close. i have one about 8 feet
away and another about 30 feet away.
and i just turned off the closer one this
morning.
can you put yours on low? what kind is
yours? i've owned many brands but my
favorite is a simple small box with a little
stick that apparently emits the negative
ions... but i've had the 'sharper image'
tall things and one that was a box with
fans and things... very bad one. very
loud and very annoying but did not seem
to work as well as the little one, which
just sits there, silently.
love, patricia

On Dec 29, 2015, at 3:01 PM, steve [via ES] wrote:

Hi Patricia,

I actually have one of those same negative ion generators. I find if I leave it on all the time it gives me insomnia and irritates my sinuses. I only use it when it hasn't rained in a while or if I feel sick and want to clean out the air.
I have a Aireox Purifier and tested it with my meter. It gives off EMFs up close but at my bed or even just a few feet away from it it doesn't register at all.
I have MCS and this little unit gets rid of formaldehyde and other gases and odors.
Steve

From: Patricia [via ES] <<a href="<a href="x-msg://354/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&amp;node=4028586&amp;i=0">x-msg://354/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4028586&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow" link="external">[hidden email]>
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Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 12:03 PM
Subject: [ES] Re: quantum products

steve, i don't know about your air purifier,
but the ones at the house where i live are
really intensely EMFish. i use a negative
ion generator to clean my air and it works
very well with no EMF. i bought it many
years ago from negativeIonGenerators.com.
i think they're less than $150 and humble,
but effective. i've used them for more than
30 years... Robert Gray, author of "The
Colon Health Handbook" recommended
them and he was a personal friend, so i
started using them long ago. i really hate
the air purifiers in the main house. sorry.
i know they're expensive, but you couldn't
give one to me. :(

love, patricia

On Dec 27, 2015, at 5:37 PM, steve [via ES] wrote:

I am sensitive. I actually have a couple of the 3 outlet Quantum plug in at home, not sure if they do anything but they haven't hurt either.
On your recommendation I purchased a Furman power strip/line conditioner that I think helped. I actually have 3 now-one for my TV/DVR, one for my Computer and one for my bedroom for my air purifier.
After using one on my TV and seeing how the vocals improved (the sound is almost 3D in it's spatiality on my headphones-I almost jump sometimes because it seems like someone is behind me). That sold me on the quality of these things. They are also built like a tank and reasonably priced ($90)
I really want to try the Quantum Pro for my apartment but I can't get myself to shell out the $500 for something the company really can't explain very well.

I may just get another 3 prong Quantum for work, plug the power strip into it and see what happens. It's only $30
Steve

From: Marc Martin [via ES] <<a href="<a href="<a href="x-msg://304/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&amp;amp;node=4028567&amp;amp;i=0">x-msg://304/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&amp;node=4028567&amp;i=0">x-msg://304/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4028567&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow" link="external">[hidden email]>
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Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 1:19 PM
Subject: [ES] Re: quantum products

On December 27, "steve [via ES]" <<a rel="nofollow" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1451258429107_6248" href="<a href="<a href="x-msg://304/">x-msg://304/">x-msg://304/" target="_top" link="external">[hidden email]> wrote:
> The thing about the surge protectors is that I don't know if they open it up
> and install some of their own circuitry. If not, what exactly would make it
> do anything other than basic surge protection?

The surge protectors that are sold by Quantum Products look exactly like their commercial counterparts (e.g. whatever companies surge protectors they are using at the moment), both on the inside and outside. What they do to them they don't say, but I imagine that they "treat" them, maybe cyrogenically or magnetically, or maybe something else. Whatever it is, it does make a difference, as I once compared a the exact same power strip that I got from Quantum Product and a local hardware store, and my tolerance for the local environment was obviously different. You could have done a double-blind test on me and I'd be able to pick which was which, even though they appeared to be exactly the same.

That all said, don't expect miracles. If you are very sensitive and bothered by your current environment, one surge protector could help a little. But if you're not that sensitive, then you may not notice any difference.

Marc

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Re: quantum products

It probably works better in a large space, glad it's worked out for you

Steve

From: Patricia [via ES] <[hidden email]>
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Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 8:36 PM
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well, then, it's probably best not to use it a lot.
make sure you never hurt yourself in any way.
the "no pain no gain" adage is not good advice.
:)
take good care of yourself.
my space here is pretty big. 20x40
and i used it in my condo on the balcony, so
it covered a lot of territory. it was the only
NIG that i kept on always. the others were
used only in extreme circumstances. :)
love, patricia

On Dec 30, 2015, at 7:37 PM, steve [via ES] wrote:

I have the same one you have, there is no setting.
My apt, is small so the furthest I can keep it away is about 12 feet

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oh, you only want to use a negative ion
generator away from where you sit, sleep...
not up close. i have one about 8 feet
away and another about 30 feet away.
and i just turned off the closer one this
morning.
can you put yours on low? what kind is
yours? i've owned many brands but my
favorite is a simple small box with a little
stick that apparently emits the negative
ions... but i've had the 'sharper image'
tall things and one that was a box with
fans and things... very bad one. very
loud and very annoying but did not seem
to work as well as the little one, which
just sits there, silently.
love, patricia

On Dec 29, 2015, at 3:01 PM, steve [via ES] wrote:

Hi Patricia,

I actually have one of those same negative ion generators. I find if I leave it on all the time it gives me insomnia and irritates my sinuses. I only use it when it hasn't rained in a while or if I feel sick and want to clean out the air.
I have a Aireox Purifier and tested it with my meter. It gives off EMFs up close but at my bed or even just a few feet away from it it doesn't register at all.
I have MCS and this little unit gets rid of formaldehyde and other gases and odors.
Steve

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steve, i don't know about your air purifier,
but the ones at the house where i live are
really intensely EMFish. i use a negative
ion generator to clean my air and it works
very well with no EMF. i bought it many
years ago from negativeIonGenerators.com.
i think they're less than $150 and humble,
but effective. i've used them for more than
30 years... Robert Gray, author of "The
Colon Health Handbook" recommended
them and he was a personal friend, so i
started using them long ago. i really hate
the air purifiers in the main house. sorry.
i know they're expensive, but you couldn't
give one to me. :(

love, patricia

On Dec 27, 2015, at 5:37 PM, steve [via ES] wrote:

I am sensitive. I actually have a couple of the 3 outlet Quantum plug in at home, not sure if they do anything but they haven't hurt either.
On your recommendation I purchased a Furman power strip/line conditioner that I think helped. I actually have 3 now-one for my TV/DVR, one for my Computer and one for my bedroom for my air purifier.
After using one on my TV and seeing how the vocals improved (the sound is almost 3D in it's spatiality on my headphones-I almost jump sometimes because it seems like someone is behind me). That sold me on the quality of these things. They are also built like a tank and reasonably priced ($90)
I really want to try the Quantum Pro for my apartment but I can't get myself to shell out the $500 for something the company really can't explain very well.

I may just get another 3 prong Quantum for work, plug the power strip into it and see what happens. It's only $30
Steve

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On December 27, "steve [via ES]" <<a rel="nofollow" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1451258429107_6248" href="<a href="<a href="x-msg://304/">x-msg://304/">x-msg://304/" target="_top" link="external">[hidden email]> wrote:
> The thing about the surge protectors is that I don't know if they open it up
> and install some of their own circuitry. If not, what exactly would make it
> do anything other than basic surge protection?

The surge protectors that are sold by Quantum Products look exactly like their commercial counterparts (e.g. whatever companies surge protectors they are using at the moment), both on the inside and outside. What they do to them they don't say, but I imagine that they "treat" them, maybe cyrogenically or magnetically, or maybe something else. Whatever it is, it does make a difference, as I once compared a the exact same power strip that I got from Quantum Product and a local hardware store, and my tolerance for the local environment was obviously different. You could have done a double-blind test on me and I'd be able to pick which was which, even though they appeared to be exactly the same.

That all said, don't expect miracles. If you are very sensitive and bothered by your current environment, one surge protector could help a little. But if you're not that sensitive, then you may not notice any difference.

Marc

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