products claiming magical effects

Someone mentioned http://safespaceprotection.com/products.htm so I took
a look. They say "Placing a Safe Space patch near the source of power on
any electric appliance, entertainment technologies or office equipment will stop
interfering radiation immediately...." If you have bought one of these
have you tested it to see if it actually stops radiation? This is a strange
claim.
They also say their product can "Transform the toxic radio frequency
emissions from your wireless devices." If it actually transformed
frequencies, your cell phone would no longer work.
They claim that their "products can help by raising the vibration of the
environment. These noxious chemicals may still be recognized as being
present, their negative effects are made null and void." No supporting research
is offered to support this or any of their other claims.
They say their products "are designed to balance and harmonize our
environments by creating a peaceful and harmonious flow of the energies or the life
force throughout the space it affects." I definitely prefer to protect my
health with products that make an actual measurable difference in frequencies
and fields, that can be measured with a meter. I wonder how many people are
spending money on products that supposedly, somehow work magic but in fact
only give you a false feeling of safety.
My #1 choice remains the GrahamStetzer filters, which make a measurable
difference and have some fine supporting research.
Regards,
Shivani


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> They also say their product can "Transform the toxic radio frequency
> emissions from your wireless devices." If it actually transformed
> frequencies, your cell phone would no longer work.

I believe that their point is that the toxic emmissions which
come from your wireless devices are NOT something you measure
with your meter, so you CAN change them without impacting
the performance of the device.

> No supporting research
> is offered to support this or any of their other claims.

They do however list various methods of diagnosis which
have been used to test the effectiveness of these devices
on people. The list does represent various modalities
which have a substantial following throughout the world.

> I definitely prefer to protect my health with products
> that make an actual measurable difference in
> frequencies and fields, that can be measured with a meter.

That's fine, but I think that those products will only get
you so far. For example, they're not going to help you much
at an airport, in the grocery store, etc. If you want
to live a "normal life", you're going to have to find some
other solution than plugging something into an outlet.

> I wonder how many people are spending money on products that
> supposedly, somehow work magic but in fact
> only give you a false feeling of safety.

False sense of safety? I've earned hundreds of thousands of
dollars working at a job that I otherwise could not work at
without these sorts of devices, so I'd say that they do far
more than offer as false feeling of safety. Sometimes they
can make the difference between being disabled and being
a productive member of society...

By the way, I ordered another SafeSpace product -- one of
the personal protection "Protectoplex" cards. Unlike the
Safe Space II, this appears to at least be tolerable.
It also seems to be beneficial. I was also impressed
with the instruction sheet, which cautioned initial usage
to 1-2 hours a day, and ramping up to tolerance. A lot
of products don't acknowledge in their instructions
that you might need to ramp up your usage. Based on
my initial positive reaction to this card, I've also
now ordered their "Environmental Protection Card", which
is their portable EMF protection solution.

I will of course report anything worth reporting... :-)

Marc

...and of course, on the subject of magical effects,
I refer you to Arthur C. Clarke, who said:

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is
indistinguishable from magic"

Heck, I'm sure that if we go back far enough
in time, even those Graham Stetzer filters
would be dismissed as having "magical effects". :-)

Marc

Hear hear. Magic, after all, is simply anything that we have yet to
understand. Once upon a time electricity was regarded with great
suspicion for the same reason - before they had measuring equipment!!

Sarah

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...and of course, on the subject of magical effects,
I refer you to Arthur C. Clarke, who said:

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is
indistinguishable from magic"

Heck, I'm sure that if we go back far enough
in time, even those Graham Stetzer filters
would be dismissed as having "magical effects". :-)

Marc



 
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Yes, Marc, this is a good one!

That is what I wanted to point out in my numerous replies to Shivani:
Stetzer (as most of our devices), if effective (what I don't doubt!), have
no valid explanation. One of the reasons is that we simply don't know
neither the cause nor the mechanism of impact! In such situation most of the
attempts to scientifically justify the work of the devices are leading to
loss of credibility... (That doesn't apply to statistical proofs of
effectiveness, that involve no much explanation!)

Drasko


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Hello,

I maintain another opinion.

A lot of this stuff is inhabitated by information.

In some *magical* way, this information is sent to us.
The information can be positive as well as negative.

Some products do have an impact with their information.
(Longitudinal waves contain also information!)

Besides the chakras, our body does have a number of *vortexes*.
And the information is transformed or otherwise guided along these vortexes.

We cannot measure that in a normal way, but I think that it works along
those lines.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
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From: "Drasko Cvijovic" <[hidden email]>
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Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 12:21
Subject: Re: [eSens] products claiming magical effects


> Yes, Marc, this is a good one!
>
> That is what I wanted to point out in my numerous replies to Shivani:
> Stetzer (as most of our devices), if effective (what I don't doubt!), have
> no valid explanation. One of the reasons is that we simply don't know
> neither the cause nor the mechanism of impact! In such situation most of
the