jobs anybody?

Hello,
 
I just joined this group last week. I don't know if you all live in Canada or the States... I live in NJ (very populated).  I came down with EHS about 2.5 years ago, although my initial sensitivities had been growing since aroun 1999.  This has been a period of much personal distress, so I wonder if the taxing of my nervous system isn't what led to this condition.
 
People like me, do not even have health insurance in the States.  The government and health care populations are hostile towards people like me with no money and little resources. Yet society keeps creating more potential hazards and direct assaults upon individual's well being, while making affordable health care more and more difficult to come by.  These are the realities plaguing our times. 

Believe it or not, I have found that the energies in NJ are more fluid, perhaps because there are so many cell towers and devices that as they say, the devices don't have to work so hard to deliver and receive signals. I also feel that except for exposures that are very close in proximity (closer than 25 feet)-- I seem to tolerate a bit better now than when I first got this thing.
 
Sadly though, for me rural locations have been more problematic. First of all, I find that the amount of geopathic stress can be debilitating and the energy just seems to stifle and remain locked in these open spaces.  I find this to be the case even with parks and so forth. I guess the type of remote you all are talking about would be more like when people suggest to me that I move to Montana.  Which is currently not at all realistic.
 
Lastly, it would be prophetic if we could all come together and actually buy some land and get a communal thing going, but I realize that some of us still like to actively participate in the electrotechnic playground, so finding the happy balance between what individuals want and are able to tolerate would be the key in that scenario. 
 
It's so nice to have a place to go now where there is a constant stream of people connecting and sharing-- who get it!!!. Thank you all so much!
 
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From: Loni <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Remote areas & exposures
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, November 8, 2010, 10:59 AM


 



My dream to live in the mountains away from everything but ya you have WiMax so what can one do!  Loni

--- On Mon, 11/8/10, Evie <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Evie <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Remote areas & exposures
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, November 8, 2010, 8:22 AM

 

Hi, Kikkie,
 
My husband and I have discussed having the Amish build us a house in the middle of nowhere.  Not only is the idea expensive, but it is no guarantee that tomorrow a cell tower or microwave tower will not be set up nearby, or another house built next-door with smart meters or wireless toys.  We have the means to go totally electric free at our present house(s) and have everything run off of gas.  Of course here we are surrounded by people and *their* toys and electrics.  But we have to assume that building a house in the boonies is not going to remain the boonies forever unless we are wealthy enough to buy hundreds of acres and, even then, I have heard that phone companies have an end plan of setting towers that transmit up to 66 GHz in rural areas!  Well, geez, that would fry you just about anywhere on the planet! 
 
Btw, I'm working today on your other email to me.  Hope to get it out if nothing comes up; I have it half finished.  Regarding your question about hydrogen supplements....  Marc takes "Mega-H" from an online source, I believe.  I take "Hydrogen-Boost" which can be bought online here:
 
http://www.vitaminlife.com/product-exec/product_id/59556/nm/Hydrogenboost+500mg

Hydrogen supplements work to increase your pH (and voltage).  Also they provide a slight increase in energy if you have chronic fatigue.  IF you use hydrogen supps just minutes pryor to doing exercise or work, it will sometimes cause an explosion of energy, but if this happens, take advantage of it by continuing to work but not allowing yourself to sweat or your heart rate to rise to the point you get out of breath.  If you do not take these precautions, you will likely land back in bed (I know from experience  :(  )  However, if you keep working till you poop out without sweating or getting out of breath, you can very slowly use hydrogen supps to increase your stamina.  They won't work to increase stamina doing this every day, but try once a week.  I thought they worked as well as NADH for me and were much less expensive than NADH back when I started buying them.  (But they have gone up in price.  I think my original bottles were $9 US!)
 
Be well, Dear,
Diane
--- On Sat, 11/6/10, kikkie2004 <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: kikkie2004 <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: Remote areas & exposures
To: [hidden email]
Date: Saturday, November 6, 2010, 12:04 AM

 

Just five miles down the road from where I have moved to now, it's quiet. No cell phone reception (behind the hills). Electricity to some of the remote houses, but if one built your own house it could obviously be power free.
But this would then be a question of buing land and building a house, i.e money. And then having quite an interesting 4by4ing trip to get my child to school every day.
And the current owners of the land in that area only come there for holidays, so it would be sooo isolated.

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Welcome Pam & ditto! Loni

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From: pamela clemonts <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Remote areas & exposures
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, November 8, 2010, 9:38 AM


 



Hello,
 
I just joined this group last week. I don't know if you all live in Canada or the States... I live in NJ (very populated).  I came down with EHS about 2.5 years ago, although my initial sensitivities had been growing since aroun 1999.  This has been a period of much personal distress, so I wonder if the taxing of my nervous system isn't what led to this condition.
 
People like me, do not even have health insurance in the States.  The government and health care populations are hostile towards people like me with no money and little resources. Yet society keeps creating more potential hazards and direct assaults upon individual's well being, while making affordable health care more and more difficult to come by.  These are the realities plaguing our times. 

Believe it or not, I have found that the energies in NJ are more fluid, perhaps because there are so many cell towers and devices that as they say, the devices don't have to work so hard to deliver and receive signals. I also feel that except for exposures that are very close in proximity (closer than 25 feet)-- I seem to tolerate a bit better now than when I first got this thing.
 
Sadly though, for me rural locations have been more problematic. First of all, I find that the amount of geopathic stress can be debilitating and the energy just seems to stifle and remain locked in these open spaces.  I find this to be the case even with parks and so forth. I guess the type of remote you all are talking about would be more like when people suggest to me that I move to Montana.  Which is currently not at all realistic.
 
Lastly, it would be prophetic if we could all come together and actually buy some land and get a communal thing going, but I realize that some of us still like to actively participate in the electrotechnic playground, so finding the happy balance between what individuals want and are able to tolerate would be the key in that scenario. 
 
It's so nice to have a place to go now where there is a constant stream of people connecting and sharing-- who get it!!!. Thank you all so much!
 
--- On Mon, 11/8/10, Loni <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Loni <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Remote areas & exposures
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, November 8, 2010, 10:59 AM

 

My dream to live in the mountains away from everything but ya you have WiMax so what can one do!  Loni

--- On Mon, 11/8/10, Evie <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Evie <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Remote areas & exposures
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, November 8, 2010, 8:22 AM

 

Hi, Kikkie,
 
My husband and I have discussed having the Amish build us a house in the middle of nowhere.  Not only is the idea expensive, but it is no guarantee that tomorrow a cell tower or microwave tower will not be set up nearby, or another house built next-door with smart meters or wireless toys.  We have the means to go totally electric free at our present house(s) and have everything run off of gas.  Of course here we are surrounded by people and *their* toys and electrics.  But we have to assume that building a house in the boonies is not going to remain the boonies forever unless we are wealthy enough to buy hundreds of acres and, even then, I have heard that phone companies have an end plan of setting towers that transmit up to 66 GHz in rural areas!  Well, geez, that would fry you just about anywhere on the planet! 
 
Btw, I'm working today on your other email to me.  Hope to get it out if nothing comes up; I have it half finished.  Regarding your question about hydrogen supplements....  Marc takes "Mega-H" from an online source, I believe.  I take "Hydrogen-Boost" which can be bought online here:
 
http://www.vitaminlife.com/product-exec/product_id/59556/nm/Hydrogenboost+500mg

Hydrogen supplements work to increase your pH (and voltage).  Also they provide a slight increase in energy if you have chronic fatigue.  IF you use hydrogen supps just minutes pryor to doing exercise or work, it will sometimes cause an explosion of energy, but if this happens, take advantage of it by continuing to work but not allowing yourself to sweat or your heart rate to rise to the point you get out of breath.  If you do not take these precautions, you will likely land back in bed (I know from experience  :(  )  However, if you keep working till you poop out without sweating or getting out of breath, you can very slowly use hydrogen supps to increase your stamina.  They won't work to increase stamina doing this every day, but try once a week.  I thought they worked as well as NADH for me and were much less expensive than NADH back when I started buying them.  (But they have gone up in price.  I think my original bottles were $9 US!)
 
Be well, Dear,
Diane
--- On Sat, 11/6/10, kikkie2004 <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: kikkie2004 <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: Remote areas & exposures
To: [hidden email]
Date: Saturday, November 6, 2010, 12:04 AM

 

Just five miles down the road from where I have moved to now, it's quiet. No cell phone reception (behind the hills). Electricity to some of the remote houses, but if one built your own house it could obviously be power free.
But this would then be a question of buing land and building a house, i.e money. And then having quite an interesting 4by4ing trip to get my child to school every day.
And the current owners of the land in that area only come there for holidays, so it would be sooo isolated.

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HiPuk

Thanks, I watched the youtube videos. Very interesting (and destressing) that even the plants were buzzing from that plasma TV.

My AM radio, however, is quiet through it's whole spectrum in the house (except a bit by the telephone).  And of course by the PC and laptop when they're on (which they're mostly not).

There are 11 000 volt power lines passing about 70 metres from my house.  But my trifield meter picks up no electric field and only a very tiny magnetic field (pulses between 0.2 and 0.3 mG).  So I can't imagine it's that that's bothering me.

Then there are two masts on a hill about 3 - 4 km from my house (direct view, no obstruction), they're a cell phone and TV mast.  The cell phone doesn't always have full bars in my house, so if one can use this as an indication, the signal is not very strong?  And the TV mast is apparently pointed the other way from me.

So is it one of these things, or something else?  

Could it be the radiotelephone wires?  Or geopathic stress? (Very mountaneous area). But my skin burns there, which I associate with an RF type radiation.

What about gamma or beta radiatiom from something?

I checked for wifi again with my laptop, nothing.

Closest house to me is 100 m, and they don't have a plasma TV.

Thanks for any advice.

K

--- In [hidden email], paulpjc@... wrote:

Hi - not all am radios are good at picking up this stuff I have several,  
the one that is used in the video is ultra sensitive just shere luck or
perhaps  providence that I found it in a charity shop for 50p.  So do try and
pick  up the cheap am radios ie battery ones wherever you can and dont forget
to use  the whole spectrum on the dial in your search.  We have a 11k volt
line  just 10m from our house underground but strangely enough I cant pick up
anything  with my trifeild meter it must run deep !  As for the cell tower
and tv  antennea you need to get hold of an electrosmog detector for this,
again we have  a similar situation to you, low if any bars on phone, and a
line of site 1000m  approx to mast, only my electrosmog detector picks this up
especially in the  loft space over our bedroom, but also in one small
section of our bedroom  window, which for years I have hung high performance
silver mesh over, plus more  recently stuck silver foil tinted film on window,
this helps but beware of  creating reflection anomolies. see powerwatch
website for the meter described or  varios others
 
 
(https://secure.demonweb.co.uk/spcom-dwh/ccp51/cgi-bin/cp-app.cgi?usr=51F9245830&rnd=1385979&rrc=N&affl=&cip=&act=&aff=&pg=prod&ref=ELEKTROSMOG1&cat=WI
RELESS-ENVIRONMENT&catstr=HOME:RF_CONSUMER:WIRELESS-ENVIRONMENT)
 
ps what are you symptoms again ?
 
paul
 
 
In a message dated 25/11/2010 06:04:14 GMT Standard Time,  
[hidden email] writes:

 
 
 
HiPuk

Thanks, I watched the youtube videos. Very interesting (and  destressing)
that even the plants were buzzing from that plasma TV.

My  AM radio, however, is quiet through it's whole spectrum in the house
(except a  bit by the telephone). And of course by the PC and laptop when
they're on  (which they're mostly not).

There are 11 000 volt power lines passing  about 70 metres from my house.
But my trifield meter picks up no electric  field and only a very tiny
magnetic field (pulses between 0.2 and 0.3 mG). So  I can't imagine it's that
that's bothering me.

Then there are two masts  on a hill about 3 - 4 km from my house (direct
view, no obstruction), they're  a cell phone and TV mast. The cell phone
doesn't always have full bars in my  house, so if one can use this as an
indication, the signal is not very strong?  And the TV mast is apparently pointed
the other way from me.

So is it  one of these things, or something else?

Could it be the radiotelephone  wires? Or geopathic stress? (Very
mountaneous area). But my skin burns there,  which I associate with an RF type
radiation.

What about gamma or beta  radiatiom from something?

I checked for wifi again with my laptop,  nothing.

Closest house to me is 100 m, and they don't have a plasma  TV.

Thanks for any advice.

K

--- In _eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) , paulpjc@...
 wrote:
>
> PUK REPLIES - I had trouble like this until my AM radio  revealed the
less
> well known spectre of emf - ie as you know dirty  power signals - see my
> youtube
> __http://youtu.be/U54LhjgrDog__ (http://youtu.be/U54LhjgrDog_)  
(_http://youtu.be/U54LhjgrDog_ (http://youtu.be/U54LhjgrDog) )
>  __http://youtu.be/f7MkcoM97KQ__ (http://youtu.be/f7MkcoM97KQ_)  
(_http://youtu.be/f7MkcoM97KQ_ (http://youtu.be/f7MkcoM97KQ) )
>  
>
> In a message dated 07/11/2010 19:30:50 GMT Standard Time,  
> stephen_vandevijvere@... writes:
>
> Hi Stephen
>  >
> > I don't remember when last I slept in a tent, so can't  answer that
one.
> Not too much outside either..I know all that sounds  rather depressing...
> >
> > I can definitely feel the EMF  outside as well in my garden where I'm
> living now. I've tested the  house with the Trifield meter, it's not
really
> making EMF. For RF I  only have the AM radio to test, and it's quiet too.
> >
>  > There's lots of telephone wires on the border of the garden, and
across  
> the dirt road lots of power lines, I don't know how high voltage they  
are.
> They're the only other culprits I can think of.
> >  
> > The farmer said some of neighbouring farmers have put 'stuff' up  to
get
> wi-fi, but my cell phone doesn't pick any of these up, so I  don't know
how
> strong they are.
>
>
>
>  [Non-text portions of this message have been  removed]
>





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It seems that you have not measured with a broadband RF meter.
Checking for wifi with laptop, and bars on a cell phone "looks" at only a VERY small part of the spectrum.

Also, have you checked for high frequency noise on the powerline (with a stetzer meter)?

Finally, just for clarity, are you using the Trifield Meter on "Magnetic 0-3" setting?

Emil
-----Original Message-----
From: kikkie2004 [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2010 01:04 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [eSens] AM radio PUK


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hI EMIL - are you talking to me on the trifeild bit, the answer is yes both
 scales, the 11k line runs up an unmade track next to my neighbours house  
and then finds its way between 2 houses !!! onto a substation. I often
wonder if  I should be weary of this ? as the neigbours wife died of lyphoid type
luekemia  a deacde ago, in some respects my health has declined since not
working on a  regular basis as spending more time in/around the home - I
guess that might be a  clue as to why so many women house wives get afflicted,
that said due to the  plasma tv issue I dont spend time in the house from 2pm
- 9pm very often fro the  last 3 yrs have you seen the youtube vid of my
plight, this one is really under  the radar it seems !!!  I have been fighting
smoke for so long on this one,  but i really have little option but to keep
on lateral thinking
 
paul uk
 
 
In a message dated 25/11/2010 12:24:28 GMT Standard Time,  
[hidden email] writes:

It  seems that you have not measured with a broadband RF meter.
Checking for  wifi with laptop, and bars on a cell phone "looks" at only a
VERY small part  of the spectrum.

Also, have you checked for high frequency noise on the  powerline (with a
stetzer meter)?

Finally, just for clarity, are you  using the Trifield Meter on "Magnetic
0-3"  setting?

Emil



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Hi Paul

Thanks for the reply.

The radio I have was quite good at picking 'noise' up at my previous house. But in this new house it's totally quiet, through its whole spectrum. I guess I should get another one and verify it.

The 11 kV lines are overhead (in the air on poles).  But I'm sure my trifield meter should be able to pick them up in the house (if they were a problem at this distance of about 70 m), as it's calibrated for 50 Hz (which our power is).

It doesn't when standing right near it, pick up anything on the magneticd setting, but it does show an electric field. But it quickly drops off when I walk away from it.

My money is still on the TV and/or cell phone towers. There's actually a third thingie up on that hill , I don't know what that is.

I heard that these remote setting towers can be worse as they emit stronger pulses.  I really feel better in the city than on that farm.

My symptoms are fatigue, insomnia, feeling hypoglycemic, irritation/depression, needing to go to the loo all the time, burning skin and if it gets bad enough, restless legs.

--- In [hidden email], paulpjc@... wrote:

HI Emil

Yeah, haven't checked with broadband RF meter and unfortunately don't have the money to buy one. So I've just checked with what I have on hand.

I used the trifield meter on both it's broad and sensitive magnetic setting.  It picks up a slight magnetic pulse (pulsing between 0.2 mG and 0.3 mG) in the house (even with the power tripped) and nothing on the electric setting (nor the RF setting).

I've ordered your heavy duty faraday cage (to SA - emailed you re yesterday), so that should help re the night and sleeping, but the day is a different matter.  

--- In [hidden email], "Less EMF Inc" <lessemf@...> wrote:

Note: The Trifield meter is very insensitive to RF and electric, so a 0 on the RF setting can be misleading.

--- In [hidden email], "kikkie2004" <kirsty.weight@...> wrote:
>
> HI Emil
>
> Yeah, haven't checked with broadband RF meter and unfortunately don't have the money to buy one. So I've just checked with what I have on hand.
>
> I used the trifield meter on both it's broad and sensitive magnetic setting.  It picks up a slight magnetic pulse (pulsing between 0.2 mG and 0.3 mG) in the house (even with the power tripped) and nothing on the electric setting (nor the RF setting).
>
> I've ordered your heavy duty faraday cage (to SA - emailed you re yesterday), so that should help re the night and sleeping, but the day is a different matter.  
>

Yes, I know the RF settting is insensitive, so I don't really use it. And I know the electric isn't too good either, but I thought if it drops off so quickly a bit away from the power lines, the electric field would be quite low in the house anyway.  (And the magnetic field, which I guess should correspond is almost nothing as well in the house, and that would penetrate into the house better than the electric field).

Would 70 m not be far away enough anyway?  I sort of still think it's the TV or cell phone mast. Probably the TV mast, but I have know way of testing it at the moment.

--- In [hidden email], "emraware" <emraware@...> wrote:

Hi - you mention a farm, does this have big milking parlour etc, I know  
that the machines and often the set up of these can really give off dirty
power,  plus electric fences, lots of reflective metal, wet/damp ground,
pesticides and  so on
 
 
In a message dated 25/11/2010 17:54:23 GMT Standard Time,  
[hidden email] writes:

I  heard that these remote setting towers can be worse as they emit
stronger  pulses. I really feel better in the city than on that farm.

My symptoms  are fatigue, insomnia, feeling hypoglycemic,
irritation/depression, needing to  go to the loo all the time, burning skin and if it gets
bad enough, restless  legs.




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PS you have checked for lymes I suppose
 
 
In a message dated 25/11/2010 17:54:23 GMT Standard Time,  
[hidden email] writes:

I  heard that these remote setting towers can be worse as they emit
stronger  pulses. I really feel better in the city than on that farm.

My symptoms  are fatigue, insomnia, feeling hypoglycemic,
irritation/depression, needing to  go to the loo all the time, burning skin and if it gets
bad enough, restless  legs.




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HI

It's an organic fruit farm.  No machinery closer than say 80 m from my house..

--- In [hidden email], paulpjc@... wrote:

Didn't test for lyme, but do have chronic rickettsia,mycoplasma and EBV.

But from years of treating that with antibiotics etc, what's helped my CFS the most is avoiding EMF.

These last few days I've been taking phosphatidylcholine and -serine in small dosages at night (bigger dosages make me extremely sleepy and depressed) and it seems to be helping. I don't want to post about it yet so early, but I thought I would mention it.  I take that along with some omega 3 (fish oil) and I think it's doing me good.  

--- In [hidden email], paulpjc@... wrote:

where are you based is uk, which county ?
 
 
In a message dated 26/11/2010 05:58:36 GMT Standard Time,  
[hidden email] writes:

 
 
 
HI

It's an organic fruit farm. No machinery closer than say 80 m  from my
house..

--- In _eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) , paulpjc@...
 wrote:
>
> Hi - you mention a farm, does this have big milking  parlour etc, I know
> that the machines and often the set up of these  can really give off
dirty skin and if it gets
>  bad enough, restless legs.
>
>
>
>
>  [Non-text portions of this message have been  removed]
>





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South Africa

--- In [hidden email], paulpjc@... wrote:

Are these RF Broadband Meters the most sensitive to microwave measurement? 
 
Loni
 

--- On Thu, 11/25/10, kikkie2004 <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: kikkie2004 <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: AM radio PUK
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, November 25, 2010, 10:58 AM


 



HI Emil

Yeah, haven't checked with broadband RF meter and unfortunately don't have the money to buy one. So I've just checked with what I have on hand.

I used the trifield meter on both it's broad and sensitive magnetic setting. It picks up a slight magnetic pulse (pulsing between 0.2 mG and 0.3 mG) in the house (even with the power tripped) and nothing on the electric setting (nor the RF setting).

I've ordered your heavy duty faraday cage (to SA - emailed you re yesterday), so that should help re the night and sleeping, but the day is a different matter.

--- In [hidden email], "Less EMF Inc" <lessemf@...> wrote:








     

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you need to test the masts with an appropriate meter like the esmog one  ?
 
 
In a message dated 26/11/2010 09:42:00 GMT Standard Time,  
[hidden email] writes:

 
 
 
South Africa

--- In _eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) , paulpjc@...
 wrote: (mailto:_eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) ) , paulpjc@  
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi - you mention a farm, does this  have big milking parlour etc, I
know
> > that the machines and often  the set up of these can really give off
> dirty
> > power,  plus electric fences, lots of reflective metal, wet/damp
ground,




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Hi, Kikkie,
 
Are there iron ore deposits in your area?  I go bonkers in mountainous areas here which are rich in iron ore and metals, but I would think that would also register on your meter.  Geopathic stress is another thing to look into.
 
Take care,
Diane

--- On Thu, 11/25/10, kikkie2004 <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: kikkie2004 <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] AM radio PUK
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, November 25, 2010, 1:04 AM


 



HiPuk

Thanks, I watched the youtube videos. Very interesting (and destressing) that even the plants were buzzing from that plasma TV.

My AM radio, however, is quiet through it's whole spectrum in the house (except a bit by the telephone). And of course by the PC and laptop when they're on (which they're mostly not).

There are 11 000 volt power lines passing about 70 metres from my house. But my trifield meter picks up no electric field and only a very tiny magnetic field (pulses between 0.2 and 0.3 mG). So I can't imagine it's that that's bothering me.

Then there are two masts on a hill about 3 - 4 km from my house (direct view, no obstruction), they're a cell phone and TV mast. The cell phone doesn't always have full bars in my house, so if one can use this as an indication, the signal is not very strong? And the TV mast is apparently pointed the other way from me.

So is it one of these things, or something else?

Could it be the radiotelephone wires? Or geopathic stress? (Very mountaneous area). But my skin burns there, which I associate with an RF type radiation.

What about gamma or beta radiatiom from something?

I checked for wifi again with my laptop, nothing.

Closest house to me is 100 m, and they don't have a plasma TV.

Thanks for any advice.

K

--- In [hidden email], paulpjc@... wrote:








     

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Hi again, Kikkie,
 
Forgot something that Paul (PUK) reminded me of a few emails down....  Check to see where your local power substation is, where the circuits of transmission are from the substation, and where your property is in conjunction with these.  You could be sitting in  the direct path of the electrical current return.  I don't know how things are done in So Africa, but here, we are often subjected to very high ground currents.  (Which is why I don't "ground" myself just anywhere, but go particular places to do grounding.)

Wish you the best,
Diane
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From: kikkie2004 <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] AM radio PUK
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, November 25, 2010, 1:04 AM


 



HiPuk

Thanks, I watched the youtube videos. Very interesting (and destressing) that even the plants were buzzing from that plasma TV.

My AM radio, however, is quiet through it's whole spectrum in the house (except a bit by the telephone). And of course by the PC and laptop when they're on (which they're mostly not).

There are 11 000 volt power lines passing about 70 metres from my house. But my trifield meter picks up no electric field and only a very tiny magnetic field (pulses between 0.2 and 0.3 mG). So I can't imagine it's that that's bothering me.

Then there are two masts on a hill about 3 - 4 km from my house (direct view, no obstruction), they're a cell phone and TV mast. The cell phone doesn't always have full bars in my house, so if one can use this as an indication, the signal is not very strong? And the TV mast is apparently pointed the other way from me.

So is it one of these things, or something else?

Could it be the radiotelephone wires? Or geopathic stress? (Very mountaneous area). But my skin burns there, which I associate with an RF type radiation.

What about gamma or beta radiatiom from something?

I checked for wifi again with my laptop, nothing.

Closest house to me is 100 m, and they don't have a plasma TV.

Thanks for any advice.

K

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