eSens - questions about Mac Mini

>
> Hi Bill - this is Svetaswan from the eSens Yahoo group. Right now, I'm strongly considering buying an Apple Mac Mini desktop - and from scanning a previous thread I realize that you mentioned that you used a Mac Mini. So I thought I'd send you a private email asking you certain questions about it.
>
> From the information that Apple provides about this computer (such as theway it "smartly" adjusts its power based on the task it's performing, the little "wattage" it uses compared to other desktops, etc.), one would get the impression that it is a relatively good, tolerable computer for electrosensitives. From your experience, do you find this to be the case? Or doesthis computer bother you as much as (or more than) other desktops/laptops?
>
> I find the small size of this computer to be a big plus (even a necessity, given my limited space) - but I'm worried that there may be emr-related drawbacks to having such a compact desktop. I'm wondering if it may have some of the same "issues" that laptops are suspected of having - in that such a large amount of "technology" packed into a small space may mean that the system "skimps" on cooling/shielding - exposing us to more emr. Do you find that to be an issue - would larger desktops be more tolerable than a Mac Mini for this reason? Or does the Mac Mini compare favorably to larger, supposedly "better shielded" desktops?
>
> From looking over the info, it would seem that the Mac Mini's "efficiency" would make up for it's lack of size from an emr-standpoint - but you never know. People's real-life experiences may be different from the advertising...
>
> Right now, I'm planning to "upgrade" my CRT t.v. to an LCD t.v. and hook up the Mac Mini to the LCD t.v. - this is pretty much the only way I can efficiently fit a desktop into my bedroom. Hopefully I can tolerate an LCD t.v...
>
> If there is any other advice/insight you can give as far as making a Mac Mini as tolerable as possible, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks so much for your time and help (hopefully this email gets through to you).
>
> ~Svetaswan
>
>
> P.S. - thanks for taking the time to explain how metals act as both conducters and shielders (I think that was you). Due to some tough circumstances I'm dealing with - I didn't get a chance to acknowlege or respond to yourcareful explanation. But I read your post...I won't claim to totally understand it, but I read it. :)
>

> From: svetaswan <[hidden email]>
> Subject: [eSens] eSens - questions about Mac Mini
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Sunday, March 28, 2010, 9:56 AM
> Hi Bill - this is Svetaswan from the
> eSens Yahoo group.  Right now, I'm strongly considering
> buying an Apple Mac Mini desktop - and from scanning a
> previous thread I realize that you mentioned that you used a
> Mac Mini.  So I thought I'd send you a private email
> asking you certain questions about it.
>
> From the information that Apple provides about this
> computer (such as the way it "smartly" adjusts its power
> based on the task it's performing, the little "wattage" it
> uses compared to other desktops, etc.), one would get the
> impression that it is a relatively good, tolerable computer
> for electrosensitives.  From your experience, do you
> find this to be the case?  Or does this computer bother
> you as much as (or more than) other desktops/laptops?
>
> I find the small size of this computer to be a big plus
> (even a necessity, given my limited space) - but I'm worried
> that there may be emr-related drawbacks to having such a
> compact desktop. I'm wondering if it may have some of the
> same "issues" that laptops are suspected of having - in that
> such a large amount of "technology" packed into a small
> space may mean that the system "skimps" on cooling/shielding
> - exposing us to more emr.  Do you find that to be an
> issue - would larger desktops be more tolerable than a Mac
> Mini for this reason?  Or does the Mac Mini compare
> favorably to larger, supposedly "better shielded" desktops?
>
> From looking over the info, it would seem that the Mac
> Mini's "efficiency" would make up for it's lack of size from
> an emr-standpoint - but you never know.  People's
> real-life experiences may be different from the
> advertising...
>
> Right now, I'm planning to "upgrade" my CRT t.v. to an LCD
> t.v. and hook up the Mac Mini to the LCD t.v. - this is
> pretty much the only way I can efficiently fit a desktop
> into my bedroom.  Hopefully I can tolerate an LCD
> t.v...
>
> If there is any other advice/insight you can give as far as
> making a Mac Mini as tolerable as possible, I'd really
> appreciate it.  Thanks so much for your time and help
> (hopefully this email gets through to you).
>
> ~Svetaswan
>
>
> P.S. - thanks for taking the time to explain how metals act
> as both conducters and shielders (I think that was
> you).  Due to some tough circumstances I'm dealing with
> - I didn't get a chance to acknowlege or respond to your
> careful explanation.  But I read your post...I won't
> claim to totally understand it, but I read it. :)
>
>  
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>     [hidden email]
>
>
>

>
> This was directed to Bill but since I also have a Mac Mini I figured I would mention some things.
> I tested with my Meter and the only time the meter went off was right near the light in front by the CD Slot. If I moved a few inches away there wasno reading. So, as long as you are about 4-6 inches away from the Mini I think it's fine.
> The computer works great, no chemical smells at all and quiet as a mouse.
> Steve
>
> --- On Sun, 3/28/10, svetaswan <svetaswan@...> wrote:
>
> > From: svetaswan <svetaswan@...>
> > Subject: [eSens] eSens - questions about Mac Mini
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Date: Sunday, March 28, 2010, 9:56 AM
> > Hi Bill - this is Svetaswan from the
> > eSens Yahoo group.  Right now, I'm strongly considering
> > buying an Apple Mac Mini desktop - and from scanning a
> > previous thread I realize that you mentioned that you used a
> > Mac Mini.  So I thought I'd send you a private email
> > asking you certain questions about it.
> >
> > From the information that Apple provides about this
> > computer (such as the way it "smartly" adjusts its power
> > based on the task it's performing, the little "wattage" it
> > uses compared to other desktops, etc.), one would get the
> > impression that it is a relatively good, tolerable computer
> > for electrosensitives.  From your experience, do you
> > find this to be the case?  Or does this computer bother
> > you as much as (or more than) other desktops/laptops?
> >
> > I find the small size of this computer to be a big plus
> > (even a necessity, given my limited space) - but I'm worried
> > that there may be emr-related drawbacks to having such a
> > compact desktop. I'm wondering if it may have some of the
> > same "issues" that laptops are suspected of having - in that
> > such a large amount of "technology" packed into a small
> > space may mean that the system "skimps" on cooling/shielding
> > - exposing us to more emr.  Do you find that to be an
> > issue - would larger desktops be more tolerable than a Mac
> > Mini for this reason?  Or does the Mac Mini compare
> > favorably to larger, supposedly "better shielded" desktops?
> >
> > From looking over the info, it would seem that the Mac
> > Mini's "efficiency" would make up for it's lack of size from
> > an emr-standpoint - but you never know.  People's
> > real-life experiences may be different from the
> > advertising...
> >
> > Right now, I'm planning to "upgrade" my CRT t.v. to an LCD
> > t.v. and hook up the Mac Mini to the LCD t.v. - this is
> > pretty much the only way I can efficiently fit a desktop
> > into my bedroom.  Hopefully I can tolerate an LCD
> > t.v...
> >
> > If there is any other advice/insight you can give as far as
> > making a Mac Mini as tolerable as possible, I'd really
> > appreciate it.  Thanks so much for your time and help
> > (hopefully this email gets through to you).
> >
> > ~Svetaswan
> >
> >
> > P.S. - thanks for taking the time to explain how metals act
> > as both conducters and shielders (I think that was
> > you).  Due to some tough circumstances I'm dealing with
> > - I didn't get a chance to acknowlege or respond to your
> > careful explanation.  But I read your post...I won't
> > claim to totally understand it, but I read it. :)
> >
> >  
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >     [hidden email]
> >
> >
> >
>

> From: svetaswan <[hidden email]>
> Subject: [eSens] Re: eSens - questions about Mac Mini
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Tuesday, April 6, 2010, 9:47 PM
>
>
> Thanks for the reply, Steve.  Do you by any chance
> have your Mac Mini hooked up to a LCD TV ("home theater"
> syle)?
>
> Since my original inquiry about the Mac Mini was posted,
> I've been scared off of them a bit - because I was browsing
> through the "official" Apple support forums and it seems
> that people have various technical problems with their Mac
> Mini-LCD TV connection, or with their ethernet/wireless
> connection.  Perhaps what I saw on the Mac forums only
> represent a (relatively) small percentage of Mac Mini users
> - but there seemed to be enough there for me to have serious
> worries as to whether owning a Mac Mini would be too
> stressful for me from an operational/maintenance
> standpoint.  My technical savviness is pretty much
> abysmal - and fortunately for me (knocks on wood), I am not
> used to having many technical problems with my
> computer.  I just want to be able to plug in my Mac
> Mini (or any computer) and not have to worry about
> "troubleshooting" various technical problems.  Given my
> condition, I don't seem to have the energy for all of that.
>
>
> Have you had many technical problems with your Mac Mini -
> such as problems maintaining the screen display, or with the
> ethernet/wireless connection, etc.?
>
> ~Svetaswan
>
> --- In [hidden email],
> Steve G <torch369@...> wrote:
> >
> > This was directed to Bill but since I also have a Mac
> Mini I figured I would mention some things.
> > I tested with my Meter and the only time the meter
> went off was right near the light in front by the CD Slot.
> If I moved a few inches away there was no reading. So, as
> long as you are about 4-6 inches away from the Mini I think
> it's fine.
> > The computer works great, no chemical smells at all
> and quiet as a mouse.
> > Steve
> >
> > --- On Sun, 3/28/10, svetaswan <svetaswan@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > > From: svetaswan <svetaswan@...>
> > > Subject: [eSens] eSens - questions about Mac
> Mini
> > > To: [hidden email]
> > > Date: Sunday, March 28, 2010, 9:56 AM
> > > Hi Bill - this is Svetaswan from the
> > > eSens Yahoo group.  Right now, I'm strongly
> considering
> > > buying an Apple Mac Mini desktop - and from
> scanning a
> > > previous thread I realize that you mentioned that
> you used a
> > > Mac Mini.  So I thought I'd send you a private
> email
> > > asking you certain questions about it.
> > >
> > > From the information that Apple provides about
> this
> > > computer (such as the way it "smartly" adjusts
> its power
> > > based on the task it's performing, the little
> "wattage" it
> > > uses compared to other desktops, etc.), one would
> get the
> > > impression that it is a relatively good,
> tolerable computer
> > > for electrosensitives.  From your experience, do
> you
> > > find this to be the case?  Or does this computer
> bother
> > > you as much as (or more than) other
> desktops/laptops?
> > >
> > > I find the small size of this computer to be a
> big plus
> > > (even a necessity, given my limited space) - but
> I'm worried
> > > that there may be emr-related drawbacks to having
> such a
> > > compact desktop. I'm wondering if it may have
> some of the
> > > same "issues" that laptops are suspected of
> having - in that
> > > such a large amount of "technology" packed into a
> small
> > > space may mean that the system "skimps" on
> cooling/shielding
> > > - exposing us to more emr.  Do you find that to
> be an
> > > issue - would larger desktops be more tolerable
> than a Mac
> > > Mini for this reason?  Or does the Mac Mini
> compare
> > > favorably to larger, supposedly "better shielded"
> desktops?
> > >
> > > From looking over the info, it would seem that
> the Mac
> > > Mini's "efficiency" would make up for it's lack
> of size from
> > > an emr-standpoint - but you never know. 
> People's
> > > real-life experiences may be different from the
> > > advertising...
> > >
> > > Right now, I'm planning to "upgrade" my CRT t.v.
> to an LCD
> > > t.v. and hook up the Mac Mini to the LCD t.v. -
> this is
> > > pretty much the only way I can efficiently fit a
> desktop
> > > into my bedroom.  Hopefully I can tolerate an
> LCD
> > > t.v...
> > >
> > > If there is any other advice/insight you can give
> as far as
> > > making a Mac Mini as tolerable as possible, I'd
> really
> > > appreciate it.  Thanks so much for your time and
> help
> > > (hopefully this email gets through to you).
> > >
> > > ~Svetaswan
> > >
> > >
> > > P.S. - thanks for taking the time to explain how
> metals act
> > > as both conducters and shielders (I think that
> was
> > > you).  Due to some tough circumstances I'm
> dealing with
> > > - I didn't get a chance to acknowlege or respond
> to your
> > > careful explanation.  But I read your post...I
> won't
> > > claim to totally understand it, but I read it.
> :)
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >     [hidden email]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>     [hidden email]
>
>
>

>
> Hi Bill - this is Svetaswan from the eSens Yahoo group. Right now, I'm strongly considering buying an Apple Mac Mini desktop - and from scanning a previous thread I realize that you mentioned that you used a Mac Mini. So I thought I'd send you a private email asking you certain questions about it.
>
> From the information that Apple provides about this computer (such as theway it "smartly" adjusts its power based on the task it's performing, the little "wattage" it uses compared to other desktops, etc.), one would get the impression that it is a relatively good, tolerable computer for electrosensitives. From your experience, do you find this to be the case? Or doesthis computer bother you as much as (or more than) other desktops/laptops?
>
> I find the small size of this computer to be a big plus (even a necessity, given my limited space) - but I'm worried that there may be emr-related drawbacks to having such a compact desktop. I'm wondering if it may have some of the same "issues" that laptops are suspected of having - in that such a large amount of "technology" packed into a small space may mean that the system "skimps" on cooling/shielding - exposing us to more emr. Do you find that to be an issue - would larger desktops be more tolerable than a Mac Mini for this reason? Or does the Mac Mini compare favorably to larger, supposedly "better shielded" desktops?
>
> From looking over the info, it would seem that the Mac Mini's "efficiency" would make up for it's lack of size from an emr-standpoint - but you never know. People's real-life experiences may be different from the advertising...
>
> Right now, I'm planning to "upgrade" my CRT t.v. to an LCD t.v. and hook up the Mac Mini to the LCD t.v. - this is pretty much the only way I can efficiently fit a desktop into my bedroom. Hopefully I can tolerate an LCD t.v...
>
> If there is any other advice/insight you can give as far as making a Mac Mini as tolerable as possible, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks so much for your time and help (hopefully this email gets through to you).
>
> ~Svetaswan
>
>
> P.S. - thanks for taking the time to explain how metals act as both conducters and shielders (I think that was you). Due to some tough circumstances I'm dealing with - I didn't get a chance to acknowlege or respond to yourcareful explanation. But I read your post...I won't claim to totally understand it, but I read it. :)
>

> From: svetaswan <[hidden email]>
> Subject: [eSens] Re: eSens - questions about Mac Mini
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Tuesday, April 6, 2010, 10:24 PM
>
>
> And I just wanted to ask - because this bothered me a
> bit....can someone explain how a message that I emailed
> privately to someone ended up on the messageboard, and
> distributed to everyone? 
>
> If this was done intentionally, I would have preferred that
> I be notified in private before it was done.  From a
> content standpoint, it may not seem to be that big of a deal
> whether this message is seen by one person or the entire
> group.  But from a courtesy standpoint - I wish I had
> been better informed of the situation and were given more of
> a choice as to whether I wanted to re-tailor the message to
> the entire group, or scrap it altogether.
>
> ~Svetaswan
>
> --- In [hidden email],
> "svetaswan" <svetaswan@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Bill - this is Svetaswan from the eSens Yahoo
> group.  Right now, I'm strongly considering buying an
> Apple Mac Mini desktop - and from scanning a previous thread
> I realize that you mentioned that you used a Mac Mini. 
> So I thought I'd send you a private email asking you certain
> questions about it.
> >
> > From the information that Apple provides about this
> computer (such as the way it "smartly" adjusts its power
> based on the task it's performing, the little "wattage" it
> uses compared to other desktops, etc.), one would get the
> impression that it is a relatively good, tolerable computer
> for electrosensitives.  From your experience, do you
> find this to be the case?  Or does this computer bother
> you as much as (or more than) other desktops/laptops?
> >
> > I find the small size of this computer to be a big
> plus (even a necessity, given my limited space) - but I'm
> worried that there may be emr-related drawbacks to having
> such a compact desktop. I'm wondering if it may have some of
> the same "issues" that laptops are suspected of having - in
> that such a large amount of "technology" packed into a small
> space may mean that the system "skimps" on cooling/shielding
> - exposing us to more emr.  Do you find that to be an
> issue - would larger desktops be more tolerable than a Mac
> Mini for this reason?  Or does the Mac Mini compare
> favorably to larger, supposedly "better shielded" desktops?
> >
> > From looking over the info, it would seem that the Mac
> Mini's "efficiency" would make up for it's lack of size from
> an emr-standpoint - but you never know.  People's
> real-life experiences may be different from the
> advertising...
> >
> > Right now, I'm planning to "upgrade" my CRT t.v. to an
> LCD t.v. and hook up the Mac Mini to the LCD t.v. - this is
> pretty much the only way I can efficiently fit a desktop
> into my bedroom.  Hopefully I can tolerate an LCD
> t.v...
> >
> > If there is any other advice/insight you can give as
> far as making a Mac Mini as tolerable as possible, I'd
> really appreciate it.  Thanks so much for your time and
> help (hopefully this email gets through to you).
> >
> > ~Svetaswan
> >
> >
> > P.S. - thanks for taking the time to explain how
> metals act as both conducters and shielders (I think that
> was you).  Due to some tough circumstances I'm dealing
> with - I didn't get a chance to acknowlege or respond to
> your careful explanation.  But I read your post...I
> won't claim to totally understand it, but I read it. :)
> >
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>     [hidden email]
>
>
>

>
> I refuse to go wireless and with any emf sensitivity you should avoid it also, IMO.
> I have it hooked up to a monitor, not a LCD TV and I haven't had any issues whatsoever with the computer. I am chemically sensitive so i am very happy with the Mini-no outgassing, no smells, and its EPEAT GOLD rated.
> As for problems hooking it up to an entertainment center I would be surprised if there were any issues, the Mini is supposed to be good for that use. Go to www.appleinsider.com and www.macnn.com and check the forums there and ask questions-you'll get all the info you need.
>
> --- On Tue, 4/6/10, svetaswan <svetaswan@...> wrote:
>
> > From: svetaswan <svetaswan@...>
> > Subject: [eSens] Re: eSens - questions about Mac Mini
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Date: Tuesday, April 6, 2010, 9:47 PM
> >
> >
> > Thanks for the reply, Steve.  Do you by any chance
> > have your Mac Mini hooked up to a LCD TV ("home theater"
> > syle)?
> >
> > Since my original inquiry about the Mac Mini was posted,
> > I've been scared off of them a bit - because I was browsing
> > through the "official" Apple support forums and it seems
> > that people have various technical problems with their Mac
> > Mini-LCD TV connection, or with their ethernet/wireless
> > connection.  Perhaps what I saw on the Mac forums only
> > represent a (relatively) small percentage of Mac Mini users
> > - but there seemed to be enough there for me to have serious
> > worries as to whether owning a Mac Mini would be too
> > stressful for me from an operational/maintenance
> > standpoint.  My technical savviness is pretty much
> > abysmal - and fortunately for me (knocks on wood), I am not
> > used to having many technical problems with my
> > computer.  I just want to be able to plug in my Mac
> > Mini (or any computer) and not have to worry about
> > "troubleshooting" various technical problems.  Given my
> > condition, I don't seem to have the energy for all of that.
> >
> >
> > Have you had many technical problems with your Mac Mini -
> > such as problems maintaining the screen display, or with the
> > ethernet/wireless connection, etc.?
> >
> > ~Svetaswan
> >
> > --- In [hidden email],
> > Steve G <torch369@> wrote:
> > >
> > > This was directed to Bill but since I also have a Mac
> > Mini I figured I would mention some things.
> > > I tested with my Meter and the only time the meter
> > went off was right near the light in front by the CD Slot.
> > If I moved a few inches away there was no reading. So, as
> > long as you are about 4-6 inches away from the Mini I think
> > it's fine.
> > > The computer works great, no chemical smells at all
> > and quiet as a mouse.
> > > Steve
> > >
> > > --- On Sun, 3/28/10, svetaswan <svetaswan@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > From: svetaswan <svetaswan@>
> > > > Subject: [eSens] eSens - questions about Mac
> > Mini
> > > > To: [hidden email]
> > > > Date: Sunday, March 28, 2010, 9:56 AM
> > > > Hi Bill - this is Svetaswan from the
> > > > eSens Yahoo group.  Right now, I'm strongly
> > considering
> > > > buying an Apple Mac Mini desktop - and from
> > scanning a
> > > > previous thread I realize that you mentioned that
> > you used a
> > > > Mac Mini.  So I thought I'd send you a private
> > email
> > > > asking you certain questions about it.
> > > >
> > > > From the information that Apple provides about
> > this
> > > > computer (such as the way it "smartly" adjusts
> > its power
> > > > based on the task it's performing, the little
> > "wattage" it
> > > > uses compared to other desktops, etc.), one would
> > get the
> > > > impression that it is a relatively good,
> > tolerable computer
> > > > for electrosensitives.  From your experience, do
> > you
> > > > find this to be the case?  Or does this computer
> > bother
> > > > you as much as (or more than) other
> > desktops/laptops?
> > > >
> > > > I find the small size of this computer to be a
> > big plus
> > > > (even a necessity, given my limited space) - but
> > I'm worried
> > > > that there may be emr-related drawbacks to having
> > such a
> > > > compact desktop. I'm wondering if it may have
> > some of the
> > > > same "issues" that laptops are suspected of
> > having - in that
> > > > such a large amount of "technology" packed into a
> > small
> > > > space may mean that the system "skimps" on
> > cooling/shielding
> > > > - exposing us to more emr.  Do you find that to
> > be an
> > > > issue - would larger desktops be more tolerable
> > than a Mac
> > > > Mini for this reason?  Or does the Mac Mini
> > compare
> > > > favorably to larger, supposedly "better shielded"
> > desktops?
> > > >
> > > > From looking over the info, it would seem that
> > the Mac
> > > > Mini's "efficiency" would make up for it's lack
> > of size from
> > > > an emr-standpoint - but you never know. 
> > People's
> > > > real-life experiences may be different from the
> > > > advertising...
> > > >
> > > > Right now, I'm planning to "upgrade" my CRT t.v.
> > to an LCD
> > > > t.v. and hook up the Mac Mini to the LCD t.v. -
> > this is
> > > > pretty much the only way I can efficiently fit a
> > desktop
> > > > into my bedroom.  Hopefully I can tolerate an
> > LCD
> > > > t.v...
> > > >
> > > > If there is any other advice/insight you can give
> > as far as
> > > > making a Mac Mini as tolerable as possible, I'd
> > really
> > > > appreciate it.  Thanks so much for your time and
> > help
> > > > (hopefully this email gets through to you).
> > > >
> > > > ~Svetaswan
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > P.S. - thanks for taking the time to explain how
> > metals act
> > > > as both conducters and shielders (I think that
> > was
> > > > you).  Due to some tough circumstances I'm
> > dealing with
> > > > - I didn't get a chance to acknowlege or respond
> > to your
> > > > careful explanation.  But I read your post...I
> > won't
> > > > claim to totally understand it, but I read it.
> > :)
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >     [hidden email]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> From: svetaswan <[hidden email]>
> Subject: [eSens] Re: eSens - questions about Mac Mini
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Tuesday, April 6, 2010, 10:35 PM
>
>
> Well I'm in a situation where I'm not in charge of much of
> what is brought into my household.  If I were in
> control of these decisions - I would have gotten rid of my
> WiFi as soon as I realized that it was causing me distress
> symptoms, and as soon as I realized that it was poison.
>
> But I do have an ethernet "option" built into my room
> (although it still means that this house is "bathed" in WiFi
> signals).  I haven't tested it out yet...I don't even
> know if it is "Gigabit Ethernet".  I was planning to
> try to hook up whatever computer I end up buying to my
> ethernet port and "disable" the wireless option of the
> machine.
>
> I will try to check out those sites you mentioned - thanks
> again.
>
> ~Svetaswan
>
> --- In [hidden email],
> Steve G <torch369@...> wrote:
> >
> > I refuse to go wireless and with any emf sensitivity
> you should avoid it also, IMO.
> > I have it hooked up to a monitor, not a LCD TV and I
> haven't had any issues whatsoever with the computer. I am
> chemically sensitive so i am very happy with the Mini-no
> outgassing, no smells, and its EPEAT GOLD rated.
> > As for problems hooking it up to an entertainment
> center I would be surprised if there were any issues, the
> Mini is supposed to be good for that use. Go to
> www.appleinsider.com and www.macnn.com and check the forums
> there and ask questions-you'll get all the info you need.
> >
> > --- On Tue, 4/6/10, svetaswan <svetaswan@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > > From: svetaswan <svetaswan@...>
> > > Subject: [eSens] Re: eSens - questions about Mac
> Mini
> > > To: [hidden email]
> > > Date: Tuesday, April 6, 2010, 9:47 PM
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks for the reply, Steve.  Do you by any
> chance
> > > have your Mac Mini hooked up to a LCD TV ("home
> theater"
> > > syle)?
> > >
> > > Since my original inquiry about the Mac Mini was
> posted,
> > > I've been scared off of them a bit - because I
> was browsing
> > > through the "official" Apple support forums and
> it seems
> > > that people have various technical problems with
> their Mac
> > > Mini-LCD TV connection, or with their
> ethernet/wireless
> > > connection.  Perhaps what I saw on the Mac
> forums only
> > > represent a (relatively) small percentage of Mac
> Mini users
> > > - but there seemed to be enough there for me to
> have serious
> > > worries as to whether owning a Mac Mini would be
> too
> > > stressful for me from an operational/maintenance
> > > standpoint.  My technical savviness is pretty
> much
> > > abysmal - and fortunately for me (knocks on
> wood), I am not
> > > used to having many technical problems with my
> > > computer.  I just want to be able to plug in my
> Mac
> > > Mini (or any computer) and not have to worry
> about
> > > "troubleshooting" various technical problems. 
> Given my
> > > condition, I don't seem to have the energy for
> all of that.
> > >
> > >
> > > Have you had many technical problems with your
> Mac Mini -
> > > such as problems maintaining the screen display,
> or with the
> > > ethernet/wireless connection, etc.?
> > >
> > > ~Svetaswan
> > >
> > > --- In [hidden email],
> > > Steve G <torch369@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > This was directed to Bill but since I also
> have a Mac
> > > Mini I figured I would mention some things.
> > > > I tested with my Meter and the only time the
> meter
> > > went off was right near the light in front by the
> CD Slot.
> > > If I moved a few inches away there was no
> reading. So, as
> > > long as you are about 4-6 inches away from the
> Mini I think
> > > it's fine.
> > > > The computer works great, no chemical smells
> at all
> > > and quiet as a mouse.
> > > > Steve
> > > >
> > > > --- On Sun, 3/28/10, svetaswan
> <svetaswan@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > From: svetaswan <svetaswan@>
> > > > > Subject: [eSens] eSens - questions
> about Mac
> > > Mini
> > > > > To: [hidden email]
> > > > > Date: Sunday, March 28, 2010, 9:56 AM
> > > > > Hi Bill - this is Svetaswan from the
> > > > > eSens Yahoo group.  Right now, I'm
> strongly
> > > considering
> > > > > buying an Apple Mac Mini desktop - and
> from
> > > scanning a
> > > > > previous thread I realize that you
> mentioned that
> > > you used a
> > > > > Mac Mini.  So I thought I'd send you a
> private
> > > email
> > > > > asking you certain questions about it.
> > > > >
> > > > > From the information that Apple
> provides about
> > > this
> > > > > computer (such as the way it "smartly"
> adjusts
> > > its power
> > > > > based on the task it's performing, the
> little
> > > "wattage" it
> > > > > uses compared to other desktops, etc.),
> one would
> > > get the
> > > > > impression that it is a relatively
> good,
> > > tolerable computer
> > > > > for electrosensitives.  From your
> experience, do
> > > you
> > > > > find this to be the case?  Or does
> this computer
> > > bother
> > > > > you as much as (or more than) other
> > > desktops/laptops?
> > > > >
> > > > > I find the small size of this computer
> to be a
> > > big plus
> > > > > (even a necessity, given my limited
> space) - but
> > > I'm worried
> > > > > that there may be emr-related drawbacks
> to having
> > > such a
> > > > > compact desktop. I'm wondering if it
> may have
> > > some of the
> > > > > same "issues" that laptops are
> suspected of
> > > having - in that
> > > > > such a large amount of "technology"
> packed into a
> > > small
> > > > > space may mean that the system "skimps"
> on
> > > cooling/shielding
> > > > > - exposing us to more emr.  Do you
> find that to
> > > be an
> > > > > issue - would larger desktops be more
> tolerable
> > > than a Mac
> > > > > Mini for this reason?  Or does the Mac
> Mini
> > > compare
> > > > > favorably to larger, supposedly "better
> shielded"
> > > desktops?
> > > > >
> > > > > From looking over the info, it would
> seem that
> > > the Mac
> > > > > Mini's "efficiency" would make up for
> it's lack
> > > of size from
> > > > > an emr-standpoint - but you never
> know. 
> > > People's
> > > > > real-life experiences may be different
> from the
> > > > > advertising...
> > > > >
> > > > > Right now, I'm planning to "upgrade" my
> CRT t.v.
> > > to an LCD
> > > > > t.v. and hook up the Mac Mini to the
> LCD t.v. -
> > > this is
> > > > > pretty much the only way I can
> efficiently fit a
> > > desktop
> > > > > into my bedroom.  Hopefully I can
> tolerate an
> > > LCD
> > > > > t.v...
> > > > >
> > > > > If there is any other advice/insight
> you can give
> > > as far as
> > > > > making a Mac Mini as tolerable as
> possible, I'd
> > > really
> > > > > appreciate it.  Thanks so much for
> your time and
> > > help
> > > > > (hopefully this email gets through to
> you).
> > > > >
> > > > > ~Svetaswan
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > P.S. - thanks for taking the time to
> explain how
> > > metals act
> > > > > as both conducters and shielders (I
> think that
> > > was
> > > > > you).  Due to some tough circumstances
> I'm
> > > dealing with
> > > > > - I didn't get a chance to acknowlege
> or respond
> > > to your
> > > > > careful explanation.  But I read your
> post...I
> > > won't
> > > > > claim to totally understand it, but I
> read it.
> > > :)
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > >
> > > > >
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>
> Hi Svetaswan,
>  
> This is something which has actually happened a few times to me, also, soI will explain what happened to me:  I *thought* I deleted the ESENS address, but in fact, it didn't delete, (for what ever, who knows what reason--sometimes I may have also forgotten to delete).  I then pasted theindividual's name in the address line, but it automatically showed only the new address I had just pasted (had I taken my cursor and actually looked,I would have seen there were 2 addresses--ESENS and the individual; with ESENS on the first line, the individual on the second).  You can check this out yourself by going into your sent file and bringing up the post youwrote which you meant to be private.  When I did that, I saw my blunder.
>  
> Glad you are considering Ethernet, btw; take care,
> Diane
>
> --- On Wed, 4/7/10, svetaswan <svetaswan@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: svetaswan <svetaswan@...>
> Subject: [eSens] Re: eSens - questions about Mac Mini
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 2:04 AM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
>
>
> When I was typing the message, I double checked that the address in the "To:" box was an individual email address, and not "eSens@". I double-checked because I've made the mistake before of sending a message I meant for oneperson to the entire group. I thought I was avoiding that mistake this time - because of what I saw in the "To:" box.
>
> I sent private emails to a couple of other people in this group right around the same time I sent this one - and those messages seemed to stay private (they were not seen by the entire group). I did the same thing when I sent those private emails that I did when I *attempted* to send this one, so this is baffling.
>
> ~Svetaswan
>
> --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, "Marc Martin" <marc@> wrote:
>
> >
> > You may have *intended* to send your message to an individual, but in actuality
> > you sent it to "eSens@yahoogroups. com".
> >
> > Marc
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>      
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

>
>
> Hi Bill - this is Svetaswan from the eSens Yahoo group. Right now, I'm
> strongly considering buying an Apple Mac Mini desktop - and from scanninga
> previous thread I realize that you mentioned that you used a Mac Mini. SoI
> thought I'd send you a private email asking you certain questions about it.
>
> From the information that Apple provides about this computer (such as the
> way it "smartly" adjusts its power based on the task it's performing, the
> little "wattage" it uses compared to other desktops, etc.), one would get
> the impression that it is a relatively good, tolerable computer for
> electrosensitives. From your experience, do you find this to be the case?Or
> does this computer bother you as much as (or more than) other
> desktops/laptops?
>
> I find the small size of this computer to be a big plus (even a necessity,
> given my limited space) - but I'm worried that there may be emr-related
> drawbacks to having such a compact desktop. I'm wondering if it may have
> some of the same "issues" that laptops are suspected of having - in that
> such a large amount of "technology" packed into a small space may mean that
> the system "skimps" on cooling/shielding - exposing us to more emr. Do you
> find that to be an issue - would larger desktops be more tolerable than a
> Mac Mini for this reason? Or does the Mac Mini compare favorably to larger,
> supposedly "better shielded" desktops?
>
> From looking over the info, it would seem that the Mac Mini's "efficiency"
> would make up for it's lack of size from an emr-standpoint - but you never
> know. People's real-life experiences may be different from the
> advertising...
>
> Right now, I'm planning to "upgrade" my CRT t.v. to an LCD t.v. and hook up
> the Mac Mini to the LCD t.v. - this is pretty much the only way I can
> efficiently fit a desktop into my bedroom. Hopefully I can tolerate an LCD
> t.v...
>
> If there is any other advice/insight you can give as far as making a Mac
> Mini as tolerable as possible, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks so much for
> your time and help (hopefully this email gets through to you).
>
> ~Svetaswan
>
> P.S. - thanks for taking the time to explain how metals act as both
> conducters and shielders (I think that was you). Due to some tough
> circumstances I'm dealing with - I didn't get a chance to acknowlege or
> respond to your careful explanation. But I read your post...I won't claimto
> totally understand it, but I read it. :)
>
>  
>

> From: Bill Bruno <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] eSens - questions about Mac Mini
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Thursday, April 15, 2010, 7:14 PM
> Sorry I didn't reply.  Sometimes
> there are too many messages.
>
> My mac mini seems OK.  I have it about 7 ft away (usb
> extension cords)
> and a big piece of aluminum over it.
>
> I also have it plugged into a rather good filter.
>
> It may still affect me, but so does the monitor....
>
> I discovered recently that a mac keyboard with mouse
> plugged
> into the keyboard makes more AC magnetic field than when
> the
> mouse is plugged directly into the computer.  This was
> the keyboard
> that was white and clear that mac made a few years ago.
>
> If you are going to have the computer on your desk I would
> get
> an SSD drive in it.
>
> Bill
>
> On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 10:56 AM, svetaswan <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Hi Bill - this is Svetaswan from the eSens Yahoo
> group. Right now, I'm
> > strongly considering buying an Apple Mac Mini desktop
> - and from scanning a
> > previous thread I realize that you mentioned that you
> used a Mac Mini. So I
> > thought I'd send you a private email asking you
> certain questions about it.
> >
> > From the information that Apple provides about this
> computer (such as the
> > way it "smartly" adjusts its power based on the task
> it's performing, the
> > little "wattage" it uses compared to other desktops,
> etc.), one would get
> > the impression that it is a relatively good, tolerable
> computer for
> > electrosensitives. From your experience, do you find
> this to be the case? Or
> > does this computer bother you as much as (or more
> than) other
> > desktops/laptops?
> >
> > I find the small size of this computer to be a big
> plus (even a necessity,
> > given my limited space) - but I'm worried that there
> may be emr-related
> > drawbacks to having such a compact desktop. I'm
> wondering if it may have
> > some of the same "issues" that laptops are suspected
> of having - in that
> > such a large amount of "technology" packed into a
> small space may mean that
> > the system "skimps" on cooling/shielding - exposing us
> to more emr. Do you
> > find that to be an issue - would larger desktops be
> more tolerable than a
> > Mac Mini for this reason? Or does the Mac Mini compare
> favorably to larger,
> > supposedly "better shielded" desktops?
> >
> > From looking over the info, it would seem that the Mac
> Mini's "efficiency"
> > would make up for it's lack of size from an
> emr-standpoint - but you never
> > know. People's real-life experiences may be different
> from the
> > advertising...
> >
> > Right now, I'm planning to "upgrade" my CRT t.v. to an
> LCD t.v. and hook up
> > the Mac Mini to the LCD t.v. - this is pretty much the
> only way I can
> > efficiently fit a desktop into my bedroom. Hopefully I
> can tolerate an LCD
> > t.v...
> >
> > If there is any other advice/insight you can give as
> far as making a Mac
> > Mini as tolerable as possible, I'd really appreciate
> it. Thanks so much for
> > your time and help (hopefully this email gets through
> to you).
> >
> > ~Svetaswan
> >
> > P.S. - thanks for taking the time to explain how
> metals act as both
> > conducters and shielders (I think that was you). Due
> to some tough
> > circumstances I'm dealing with - I didn't get a chance
> to acknowlege or
> > respond to your careful explanation. But I read your
> post...I won't claim to
> > totally understand it, but I read it. :)
> >
> > 
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>     [hidden email]
>
>
>

>
> Sorry I didn't reply. Sometimes there are too many messages.
>
> My mac mini seems OK. I have it about 7 ft away (usb extension cords)
> and a big piece of aluminum over it.
>
> I also have it plugged into a rather good filter.
>
> It may still affect me, but so does the monitor....
>
> I discovered recently that a mac keyboard with mouse plugged
> into the keyboard makes more AC magnetic field than when the
> mouse is plugged directly into the computer. This was the keyboard
> that was white and clear that mac made a few years ago.
>
> If you are going to have the computer on your desk I would get
> an SSD drive in it.
>
> Bill
>

>
> Hi Svetaswan,
>  
> This is something which has actually happened a few times to me, also, soI will explain what happened to me:  I *thought* I deleted the ESENS address, but in fact, it didn't delete, (for what ever, who knows what reason--sometimes I may have also forgotten to delete).  I then pasted the individual's name in the address line, but it automatically showed only the new address I had just pasted (had I taken my cursor and actually looked, I would have seen there were 2 addresses--ESENS and the individual; with ESENS on the first line, the individual on the second).  You can check this out yourself by going into your sent file and bringing up the post you wrote which you meant to be private.  When I did that, I saw my blunder.
>  
> Glad you are considering Ethernet, btw; take care,
> Diane
>
> --- On Wed, 4/7/10, svetaswan <svetaswan@. ..> wrote:
>
>
> From: svetaswan <svetaswan@. ..>
> Subject: [eSens] Re: eSens - questions about Mac Mini
> To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 2:04 AM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
>
>
> When I was typing the message, I double checked that the address in the "To:" box was an individual email address, and not "eSens@". I double-checked because I've made the mistake before of sending a message I meant for oneperson to the entire group. I thought I was avoiding that mistake this time - because of what I saw in the "To:" box.
>
> I sent private emails to a couple of other people in this group right around the same time I sent this one - and those messages seemed to stay private (they were not seen by the entire group). I did the same thing when I sent those private emails that I did when I *attempted* to send this one, so this is baffling.
>
> ~Svetaswan
>
> --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, "Marc Martin" <marc@> wrote:
>
> >
> > You may have *intended* to send your message to an individual, but in actuality
> > you sent it to "eSens@yahoogroups. com".
> >
> > Marc
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

> From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] smelly power strips
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Friday, April 16, 2010, 8:22 PM
> I asked Margi @ Quantum Products
> about the offgassing power
> strips they are now selling:
>
>   "Our access to the Power Sentry strips changed when
> the company was 
>    purchased by Phillips. They no longer
> took orders from small companies 
>    like us. So we have been looking for
> something that people will be 
>    happy with. Thank you for the feedback.
> If you have any suggestions 
>    for strips that you think would work
> well, please let us know and we 
>    can check it out."
>
> Marc
>
>
>
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