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Lately I've noticed a rather loud high tone when doing certain
computer tasks on my office computer. I thought it was a real tone from the monitor because if I covered my ears it got quieter. Now I find that it is not real. Depending on the exact position of my head and hands, I can make it turn off by applying slight pressure above my ear using two fingers. Or wrapping my left arm over my head and putting that hand near my right ear, the sound can be turned off and on by turning my head by about 5 degrees. Or I can turn the sound on and off by just touching a finger from that hand in front of my right ear. Putting a thin piece of cardboard between the finger and head I was no longer able to get switching. In this case the loud tone was in my right ear. There's also a quieter and higher (almost ultrasonic) tone in my left ear which remained constant (that ear's been ringing a couple days now in quiet envrionmnets). This office has aluminum on the walls and may have some interesting electrical properties. Anyone heard of anything like this? I'm not sure it will work the same tomorrow but while it was working the sound would turn on and off instantly, and reliably. I could easily have sent Morse code. Using an Electrosmog Meter I get 20 mV/m max (50 MHz-3.5GHz). Trifield ~.2 milligauss. I am near my Mac keyboard and mouse that emit AM band RF. Bill [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Sounds natural in such surroundings.
You should move to another office. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Bitdefender ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Bruno" <[hidden email]> To: "esens" <[hidden email]> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 23:48 Subject: [eSens] bizarre tinnitus effects > Lately I've noticed a rather loud high tone when doing certain > computer tasks on my office computer. I thought it was a real > tone from the monitor because if I covered my ears it got quieter. > > Now I find that it is not real. Depending on the exact position of my > head and hands, I can make it turn off by applying slight pressure > above my ear using two fingers. Or wrapping my left arm over my > head and putting that hand near my right ear, the sound can be > turned off and on by turning my head by about 5 degrees. > Or I can turn the sound on and off by just touching a finger from > that hand in front of my right ear. Putting a thin piece of cardboard > between the finger and head I was no longer able to get switching. > > In this case the loud tone was in my right ear. There's also a quieter > and higher (almost ultrasonic) tone in my left ear which remained > constant (that ear's been ringing a couple days now in quiet > envrionmnets). > > This office has aluminum on the walls and may have some interesting > electrical properties. Anyone heard of anything like this? I'm not sure > it will work the same tomorrow but while it was working the sound would > turn on and off instantly, and reliably. I could easily have sent Morse > code. > > Using an Electrosmog Meter I get 20 mV/m max (50 MHz-3.5GHz). > Trifield ~.2 milligauss. I am near my Mac keyboard and mouse that emit AM > band RF. > > Bill > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > |
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Unfortunately tinnitus seems to be a pretty common ES effect (often much
more continous/widespread than yours). It's good that you can turn it off though! But beware, it could be an early warning sign. Ian _____ From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Bill Bruno Sent: 09 January 2008 22:49 To: esens Subject: [eSens] bizarre tinnitus effects Lately I've noticed a rather loud high tone when doing certain computer tasks on my office computer. I thought it was a real tone from the monitor because if I covered my ears it got quieter. Now I find that it is not real. Depending on the exact position of my head and hands, I can make it turn off by applying slight pressure above my ear using two fingers. Or wrapping my left arm over my head and putting that hand near my right ear, the sound can be turned off and on by turning my head by about 5 degrees. Or I can turn the sound on and off by just touching a finger from that hand in front of my right ear. Putting a thin piece of cardboard between the finger and head I was no longer able to get switching. In this case the loud tone was in my right ear. There's also a quieter and higher (almost ultrasonic) tone in my left ear which remained constant (that ear's been ringing a couple days now in quiet envrionmnets). This office has aluminum on the walls and may have some interesting electrical properties. Anyone heard of anything like this? I'm not sure it will work the same tomorrow but while it was working the sound would turn on and off instantly, and reliably. I could easily have sent Morse code. Using an Electrosmog Meter I get 20 mV/m max (50 MHz-3.5GHz). Trifield ~.2 milligauss. I am near my Mac keyboard and mouse that emit AM band RF. Bill [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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In a message dated 1/10/2008 8:44:13 AM GMT Standard Time, [hidden email] writes: Lately I've noticed a rather loud high tone when doing certain > computer tasks on my office computer. I thought it was a real > tone from the monitor because if I covered my ears it got quieter. > This is common for me but cant seem to stop it by touch I can make it louder if I grit my teeth ? A few nights ago I was lying in my bed awake about 2-3am when a low pitch sound appeared in my ears for approx 1minute, now that was spooky. Paul - UK PS When my tinitus gets ultrasonic I know Iam truly poisened by EMF !! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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In a message dated 1/10/2008 1:26:14 AM GMT Standard Time, [hidden email] writes: Bill, There have been times when I've sat at my desk and there has been a frequency sound begin. I found when I turned my head to one side it stopped then when I turned my head back it started again. If you cover your ears with your hands it will stop until you move your hands away. At times it's made me feel a nauseas and disorientated. It seems to be when the Probably the resisters in the monitor infront of you especially common with CRT Vdu paul uk [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Tinnitus is a serious symptom of electrosensitivity, especially
from using computers, at least for me. After a sauna my tinnitus usually gets much worse for several hours. It can be releived somewhat after replenishing the ions lost while sweating. So it's my estimation that tinnitus can be inflamed by several stimuli. Loud noise, electromagnetism, and may be from a deficiency in certain essential ions. Eli |
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I was told by a guy from Sweden that in high school his teacher
told them to clench their back teeth for a minute. Most of the boys could hear a ringing but not the girls, and the teacher said this was typical. But generally the tone stops as soon as the teeth are relaxed. The guy is now grown up and it still works. I tried it and it worked too but the ringing did not stop right away for me... Bill On Jan 10, 2008 5:47 AM, <[hidden email]> wrote: > > In a message dated 1/10/2008 8:44:13 AM GMT Standard Time, > > [hidden email] <charles%40milieuziektes.be> writes: > > Lately I've noticed a rather loud high tone when doing certain > > computer tasks on my office computer. I thought it was a real > > tone from the monitor because if I covered my ears it got quieter. > > > > This is common for me but cant seem to stop it by touch I can make it > louder > if I grit my teeth ? A few nights ago I was lying in my bed awake about > 2-3am when a low pitch sound appeared in my ears for approx 1minute, now > that > was spooky. > > Paul - UK PS When my tinitus gets ultrasonic I know Iam truly poisened by > EMF !! > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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I meant to say clench teeth for a second, not a minute.
On Jan 10, 2008 11:00 AM, Bill Bruno <[hidden email]> wrote: > I was told by a guy from Sweden that in high school his teacher > told them to clench their back teeth for a minute. Most of the > boys could hear a ringing but not the girls, and the teacher > said this was typical. But generally the tone stops as soon as > the teeth are relaxed. The guy is now grown up and it still works. > I tried it and it worked too but the ringing did not stop right away for > me... > > Bill > > > > > On Jan 10, 2008 5:47 AM, < [hidden email]> wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 1/10/2008 8:44:13 AM GMT Standard Time, > > > > [hidden email] <charles%40milieuziektes.be> writes: > > > > Lately I've noticed a rather loud high tone when doing certain > > > computer tasks on my office computer. I thought it was a real > > > tone from the monitor because if I covered my ears it got quieter. > > > > > > > This is common for me but cant seem to stop it by touch I can make it > > louder > > if I grit my teeth ? A few nights ago I was lying in my bed awake about > > 2-3am when a low pitch sound appeared in my ears for approx 1minute, now > > that > > was spooky. > > > > Paul - UK PS When my tinitus gets ultrasonic I know Iam truly poisened > > by > > EMF !! > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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In a message dated 1/10/2008 6:01:30 PM GMT Standard Time, [hidden email] writes: On Jan 10, 2008 11:00 AM, Bill Bruno <_wbruno@gmail.wbr_ (mailto:[hidden email]) > wrote: > I was told by a guy from Sweden that in high school his teacher > told them to clench their back teeth for a minute. Most of the > boys could hear a ringing but not the girls, and the teacher > said this was typical. But generally the tone stops as soon as > the teeth are relaxed. The guy is now grown up and it still works. > I tried it and it worked too but the ringing did not stop right away for > me... > > Bill MAYBE WE ARE TALKING PEIZO ELECTRIC EFFECTS ? Paul uk [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Hello,
Although I also suffer from tinnitus, I don't know much about it so I've just prepared a new Links folder called "Tinnitus". None of the websites I've read seem to know about EMF or EHS. Elektrose --- In [hidden email], "Bill Bruno" <wbruno@...> wrote: > > Lately I've noticed a rather loud high tone when doing certain > computer tasks on my office computer. I thought it was a real > tone from the monitor because if I covered my ears it got quieter. > > Now I find that it is not real. Depending on the exact position of my > head and hands, I can make it turn off by applying slight pressure > above my ear using two fingers. Or wrapping my left arm over my > head and putting that hand near my right ear, the sound can be > turned off and on by turning my head by about 5 degrees. > Or I can turn the sound on and off by just touching a finger from > that hand in front of my right ear. Putting a thin piece of cardboard > between the finger and head I was no longer able to get switching. > > In this case the loud tone was in my right ear. There's also a quieter > and higher (almost ultrasonic) tone in my left ear which remained > constant (that ear's been ringing a couple days now in quiet > > This office has aluminum on the walls and may have some interesting > electrical properties. Anyone heard of anything like this? I'm not sure > it will work the same tomorrow but while it was working the sound would > turn on and off instantly, and reliably. I could easily have sent Morse > code. > > Using an Electrosmog Meter I get 20 mV/m max (50 MHz-3.5GHz). > Trifield ~.2 milligauss. I am near my Mac keyboard and mouse that emit AM > band RF. > > Bill > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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It is remarkable how info on tinnitus never mentions Frey's microwave
hearing effect. The peak intensity of the radar he used was stronger than what is found around town, but he also had 70dB of white noise in his experiments. He wrote in 1998 that he thought cell phones could cause headaches... Bill On Jan 10, 2008 3:03 PM, elektrose <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hello, > > Although I also suffer from tinnitus, I don't know much about it so > I've just prepared a new Links folder called "Tinnitus". None of the > websites I've read seem to know about EMF or EHS. > > Elektrose > > > --- In [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>, "Bill Bruno" > <wbruno@...> wrote: > > > > Lately I've noticed a rather loud high tone when doing certain > > computer tasks on my office computer. I thought it was a real > > tone from the monitor because if I covered my ears it got quieter. > > > > Now I find that it is not real. Depending on the exact position of my > > head and hands, I can make it turn off by applying slight pressure > > above my ear using two fingers. Or wrapping my left arm over my > > head and putting that hand near my right ear, the sound can be > > turned off and on by turning my head by about 5 degrees. > > Or I can turn the sound on and off by just touching a finger from > > that hand in front of my right ear. Putting a thin piece of cardboard > > between the finger and head I was no longer able to get switching. > > > > In this case the loud tone was in my right ear. There's also a quieter > > and higher (almost ultrasonic) tone in my left ear which remained > > constant (that ear's been ringing a couple days now in quiet > envrionmnets). > > > > This office has aluminum on the walls and may have some interesting > > electrical properties. Anyone heard of anything like this? I'm not > sure > > it will work the same tomorrow but while it was working the sound would > > turn on and off instantly, and reliably. I could easily have sent Morse > > code. > > > > Using an Electrosmog Meter I get 20 mV/m max (50 MHz-3.5GHz). > > Trifield ~.2 milligauss. I am near my Mac keyboard and mouse that > emit AM > > band RF. > > > > Bill > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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The only thing that I have found that helps with the ears is when I take a clay bath to put a finger over my ear and then soak that side of my head under water in the clay bath. Over time it has help quite a bit with my hearing. I have been doing clay baths about 5 days a week for about 10 months now.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Kemp" <ianandsue.kemp@ukgateway.net> To: <eSens@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 11:37 PM Subject: RE: [eSens] bizarre tinnitus effects > Unfortunately tinnitus seems to be a pretty common ES effect (often much > more continous/widespread than yours). It's good that you can turn it off > though! But beware, it could be an early warning sign. > Ian > > _____ > > From: eSens@yahoogroups.com [mailto:eSens@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill > Bruno > Sent: 09 January 2008 22:49 > To: esens > Subject: [eSens] bizarre tinnitus effects > > > > Lately I've noticed a rather loud high tone when doing certain > computer tasks on my office computer. I thought it was a real > tone from the monitor because if I covered my ears it got quieter. > > Now I find that it is not real. Depending on the exact position of my > head and hands, I can make it turn off by applying slight pressure > above my ear using two fingers. Or wrapping my left arm over my > head and putting that hand near my right ear, the sound can be > turned off and on by turning my head by about 5 degrees. > Or I can turn the sound on and off by just touching a finger from > that hand in front of my right ear. Putting a thin piece of cardboard > between the finger and head I was no longer able to get switching. > > In this case the loud tone was in my right ear. There's also a quieter > and higher (almost ultrasonic) tone in my left ear which remained > constant (that ear's been ringing a couple days now in quiet envrionmnets). > > This office has aluminum on the walls and may have some interesting > electrical properties. Anyone heard of anything like this? I'm not sure > it will work the same tomorrow but while it was working the sound would > turn on and off instantly, and reliably. I could easily have sent Morse > code. > > Using an Electrosmog Meter I get 20 mV/m max (50 MHz-3.5GHz). > Trifield ~.2 milligauss. I am near my Mac keyboard and mouse that emit AM > band RF. > > Bill > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1214 - Release Date: 08/01/08 13:38 > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Would you explain how you do a clay bath? How much of what do you
put in the bathtub, how long do you stay in, etc. Christy On Jan 10, 2008, at 5:46 PM, <scollier@vaughns.com> wrote: > The only thing that I have found that helps with the ears is when I > take a clay bath to put a finger over my ear and then soak that > side of my head under water in the clay bath. Over time it has help > quite a bit with my hearing. I have been doing clay baths about 5 > days a week for about 10 months now. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ian Kemp" <ianandsue.kemp@ukgateway.net> > To: <eSens@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 11:37 PM > Subject: RE: [eSens] bizarre tinnitus effects > > > Unfortunately tinnitus seems to be a pretty common ES effect > (often much > > more continous/widespread than yours). It's good that you can > turn it off > > though! But beware, it could be an early warning sign. > > Ian > > > > _____ > > > > From: eSens@yahoogroups.com [mailto:eSens@yahoogroups.com] On > Behalf Of > Bill > > Bruno > > Sent: 09 January 2008 22:49 > > To: esens > > Subject: [eSens] bizarre tinnitus effects > > > > > > > > Lately I've noticed a rather loud high tone when doing certain > > computer tasks on my office computer. I thought it was a real > > tone from the monitor because if I covered my ears it got quieter. > > > > Now I find that it is not real. Depending on the exact position > of my > > head and hands, I can make it turn off by applying slight pressure > > above my ear using two fingers. Or wrapping my left arm over my > > head and putting that hand near my right ear, the sound can be > > turned off and on by turning my head by about 5 degrees. > > Or I can turn the sound on and off by just touching a finger from > > that hand in front of my right ear. Putting a thin piece of > cardboard > > between the finger and head I was no longer able to get switching. > > > > In this case the loud tone was in my right ear. There's also a > quieter > > and higher (almost ultrasonic) tone in my left ear which remained > > constant (that ear's been ringing a couple days now in quiet > envrionmnets). > > > > This office has aluminum on the walls and may have some interesting > > electrical properties. Anyone heard of anything like this? I'm > not sure > > it will work the same tomorrow but while it was working the sound > would > > turn on and off instantly, and reliably. I could easily have sent > Morse > > code. > > > > Using an Electrosmog Meter I get 20 mV/m max (50 MHz-3.5GHz). > > Trifield ~.2 milligauss. I am near my Mac keyboard and mouse that > emit AM > > band RF. > > > > Bill > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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How about www.eurotinnitus.com
Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Bitdefender ----- Original Message ----- From: "elektrose" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 23:03 Subject: [eSens] Re: bizarre tinnitus effects > Hello, > > Although I also suffer from tinnitus, I don't know much about it so > I've just prepared a new Links folder called "Tinnitus". None of the > websites I've read seem to know about EMF or EHS. > > Elektrose > |
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Eytonsearth is a good yahoo group to direct your questions to. They are the experts.
----- Original Message ----- From: Christy Sloan To: eSens@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 7:37 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] bizarre tinnitus effects Would you explain how you do a clay bath? How much of what do you put in the bathtub, how long do you stay in, etc. Christy On Jan 10, 2008, at 5:46 PM, <scollier@vaughns.com> wrote: > The only thing that I have found that helps with the ears is when I > take a clay bath to put a finger over my ear and then soak that > side of my head under water in the clay bath. Over time it has help > quite a bit with my hearing. I have been doing clay baths about 5 > days a week for about 10 months now. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ian Kemp" <ianandsue.kemp@ukgateway.net> > To: <eSens@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 11:37 PM > Subject: RE: [eSens] bizarre tinnitus effects > > > Unfortunately tinnitus seems to be a pretty common ES effect > (often much > > more continous/widespread than yours). It's good that you can > turn it off > > though! But beware, it could be an early warning sign. > > Ian > > > > _____ > > > > From: eSens@yahoogroups.com [mailto:eSens@yahoogroups.com] On > Behalf Of > Bill > > Bruno > > Sent: 09 January 2008 22:49 > > To: esens > > Subject: [eSens] bizarre tinnitus effects > > > > > > > > Lately I've noticed a rather loud high tone when doing certain > > computer tasks on my office computer. I thought it was a real > > tone from the monitor because if I covered my ears it got quieter. > > > > Now I find that it is not real. Depending on the exact position > of my > > head and hands, I can make it turn off by applying slight pressure > > above my ear using two fingers. Or wrapping my left arm over my > > head and putting that hand near my right ear, the sound can be > > turned off and on by turning my head by about 5 degrees. > > Or I can turn the sound on and off by just touching a finger from > > that hand in front of my right ear. Putting a thin piece of > cardboard > > between the finger and head I was no longer able to get switching. > > > > In this case the loud tone was in my right ear. There's also a > quieter > > and higher (almost ultrasonic) tone in my left ear which remained > > constant (that ear's been ringing a couple days now in quiet > envrionmnets). > > > > This office has aluminum on the walls and may have some interesting > > electrical properties. Anyone heard of anything like this? I'm > not sure > > it will work the same tomorrow but while it was working the sound > would > > turn on and off instantly, and reliably. I could easily have sent > Morse > > code. > > > > Using an Electrosmog Meter I get 20 mV/m max (50 MHz-3.5GHz). > > Trifield ~.2 milligauss. I am near my Mac keyboard and mouse that > emit AM > > band RF. > > > > Bill > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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I should have mentioned the monitor I've been using the last few weeks is
an old CRT trinitron. I'll probably try switching back to the flat panel LCD. The horizontal refresh was running at 81 kHz and changing that does seem to change the effect. I measured 3 microgauss in that frequency. With the monitor sleeping the loud tone goes away. Bill On Jan 10, 2008 5:52 AM, <[hidden email]> wrote: > > In a message dated 1/10/2008 1:26:14 AM GMT Standard Time, > > [hidden email] <m.a.norman%40ntlworld.com> writes: > > Bill, There have been times when I've sat at my desk and there has been a > frequency sound begin. I found when I turned my head to one side it > stopped > then when I turned my head back it started again. If you cover your ears > with your hands it will stop until you move your hands away. At times it's > made me feel a nauseas and disorientated. > > It seems to be when the > > Probably the resisters in the monitor infront of you especially common > with > CRT Vdu > > paul uk > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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I've had this since I was a child. Electronics will do it,
and "louder" if they are malfunctioning or on the way to kaput. But it can also be things that are far far less obvious. Emergency systems, electric/pet fences, cell towers sporadically, new data wiring running over flourescents without proper shielding, vacuum tubes particularly old ones. Sometimes combinations of things - like a mobile phone in the room next to you when your old vacuum tube TV is almost gone for good. The being able to turn your head and "lose" the sound is very typical to me. I can literally be walking down the street and stop when I start hearing those frequencies. I can stand still, turn my head back of forth and up and down and "change" the tone or lose it when I turn one way or walk out of that "zone." I'm more subtle about it when I get curious now as an adult. When I was a child, I would literally stop and try and see if I could find the noise. As an adult I can often pick out a potential source - and a cell tower within a km is VERY common as is pet fences and the like. Essentially, I'm telling you that I believe you ARE "hearing" something and that you aren't the only person who has 'the turn your head to lose the sound' effect. You can't turn your head to lose tinnitis and you can't walk away from tinnitus. :) --- In [hidden email], "Bill Bruno" <wbruno@...> wrote: > > Lately I've noticed a rather loud high tone when doing certain > computer tasks on my office computer. I thought it was a real > tone from the monitor because if I covered my ears it got quieter. > > Now I find that it is not real. Depending on the exact position of my > head and hands, I can make it turn off by applying slight pressure > above my ear using two fingers. Or wrapping my left arm over my > head and putting that hand near my right ear, the sound can be > turned off and on by turning my head by about 5 degrees. > Or I can turn the sound on and off by just touching a finger from > that hand in front of my right ear. Putting a thin piece of cardboard > between the finger and head I was no longer able to get switching. > > In this case the loud tone was in my right ear. There's also a quieter > and higher (almost ultrasonic) tone in my left ear which remained > constant (that ear's been ringing a couple days now in quiet envrionmnets). > > This office has aluminum on the walls and may have some interesting > electrical properties. Anyone heard of anything like this? I'm not sure > it will work the same tomorrow but while it was working the sound would > turn on and off instantly, and reliably. I could easily have sent Morse > code. > > Using an Electrosmog Meter I get 20 mV/m max (50 MHz-3.5GHz). > Trifield ~.2 milligauss. I am near my Mac keyboard and mouse that emit AM > band RF. > > Bill > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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Thanks for this great information! I had never thought about data wires
being near fluorescents, but I think it's possible that could cause noise in the home wiring and possibly a demodulation effect (lowering frequency). If you have any comments on any other variables that affect your likelihood of hearing this, please let me know. I also would like to know your approximate age and how old you were when you first remember such an effect. Any family members who have it? Did you grow up in a city or near a radar or anything unusual? Bill On Jan 11, 2008 8:15 PM, brassypep <[hidden email]> wrote: > I've had this since I was a child. Electronics will do it, > and "louder" if they are malfunctioning or on the way to kaput. But > it can also be things that are far far less obvious. Emergency > systems, electric/pet fences, cell towers sporadically, new data > wiring running over flourescents without proper shielding, vacuum > tubes particularly old ones. Sometimes combinations of things - like > a mobile phone in the room next to you when your old vacuum tube TV > is almost gone for good. > > The being able to turn your head and "lose" the sound is very typical > to me. I can literally be walking down the street and stop when I > start hearing those frequencies. I can stand still, turn my head > back of forth and up and down and "change" the tone or lose it when I > turn one way or walk out of that "zone." I'm more subtle about it > when I get curious now as an adult. When I was a child, I would > literally stop and try and see if I could find the noise. As an adult > I can often pick out a potential source - and a cell tower within a > km is VERY common as is pet fences and the like. > > Essentially, I'm telling you that I believe you ARE "hearing" > something and that you aren't the only person who has 'the turn your > head to lose the sound' effect. > > You can't turn your head to lose tinnitis and you can't walk away > from tinnitus. :) > > > --- In [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>, "Bill Bruno" > <wbruno@...> wrote: > > > > Lately I've noticed a rather loud high tone when doing certain > > computer tasks on my office computer. I thought it was a real > > tone from the monitor because if I covered my ears it got quieter. > > > > Now I find that it is not real. Depending on the exact position of > my > > head and hands, I can make it turn off by applying slight pressure > > above my ear using two fingers. Or wrapping my left arm over my > > head and putting that hand near my right ear, the sound can be > > turned off and on by turning my head by about 5 degrees. > > Or I can turn the sound on and off by just touching a finger from > > that hand in front of my right ear. Putting a thin piece of > cardboard > > between the finger and head I was no longer able to get switching. > > > > In this case the loud tone was in my right ear. There's also a > quieter > > and higher (almost ultrasonic) tone in my left ear which remained > > constant (that ear's been ringing a couple days now in quiet > envrionmnets). > > > > This office has aluminum on the walls and may have some interesting > > electrical properties. Anyone heard of anything like this? I'm > not sure > > it will work the same tomorrow but while it was working the sound > would > > turn on and off instantly, and reliably. I could easily have sent > Morse > > code. > > > > Using an Electrosmog Meter I get 20 mV/m max (50 MHz-3.5GHz). > > Trifield ~.2 milligauss. I am near my Mac keyboard and mouse that > emit AM > > band RF. > > > > Bill > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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I'll have to think about if there are other factors in hearing these
frequencies. I'm 34 this month, and I've been hearing the electronic frequencies ever since I can remember - and my memory goes back to three. Mostly vacuum tubes then. I could hear my TV and all the TVs on the block turn on and off. I could even tell the difference between my TV and the neighbours TV from outside the house. My brother and sister used to be able to hear them sometimes, but don't anymore to my knowledge. I know for sure that they could hear vacuum tubes, and occassionally get the tinnitus effect. But I think that they still do. I've had my hearing tested several times, and I have higher than normal hearing with a "gap" at high frequency and then my hearing picks up again. Though I suspect that I'm not actually "hearing" all the frequencies per-se so much as picking them up. As in my brain is interpretting high frequencies as sound even if the frequency isn't necessarily being translated through the ear drum. Sometimes. I also don't have even coverage over all frequencies in that range. I've grown up in two of the large urban centers in Canada, though they are seperated by vast amounts of space. The only thing in common other than both being growing urban centers is the rate of growth being very fast, and the rate of adoption of technologis being similiar. And neither adopting fiber optic on a large scale which I suspect doesn't resonate as much. --- In [hidden email], "Bill Bruno" <wbruno@...> wrote: > > Thanks for this great information! I had never thought about data wires > being near fluorescents, but I think it's possible that could cause noise > in the home wiring and possibly a demodulation effect (lowering frequency). > > If you have any comments on any other variables that affect your likelihood > of hearing this, please let me know. I also would like to know your > approximate age > and how old you were when you first remember such an effect. Any family > members who have it? Did you grow up in a city or near a radar or anything > unusual? > > Bill > > On Jan 11, 2008 8:15 PM, brassypep <bmcdonne@...> wrote: > > > I've had this since I was a child. Electronics will do it, > > and "louder" if they are malfunctioning or on the way to kaput. But > > it can also be things that are far far less obvious. Emergency > > systems, electric/pet fences, cell towers sporadically, new data > > wiring running over flourescents without proper shielding, vacuum > > tubes particularly old ones. Sometimes combinations of things - like > > a mobile phone in the room next to you when your old vacuum tube TV > > is almost gone for good. > > > > The being able to turn your head and "lose" the sound is very typical > > to me. I can literally be walking down the street and stop when I > > start hearing those frequencies. I can stand still, turn my head > > back of forth and up and down and "change" the tone or lose it when I > > turn one way or walk out of that "zone." I'm more subtle about it > > when I get curious now as an adult. When I was a child, I would > > literally stop and try and see if I could find the noise. As an adult > > I can often pick out a potential source - and a cell tower within a > > km is VERY common as is pet fences and the like. > > > > Essentially, I'm telling you that I believe you ARE "hearing" > > something and that you aren't the only person who has 'the turn your > > head to lose the sound' effect. > > > > You can't turn your head to lose tinnitis and you can't walk away > > from tinnitus. :) > > > > > > --- In [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>, "Bill Bruno" > > <wbruno@> wrote: > > > > > > Lately I've noticed a rather loud high tone when doing certain > > > computer tasks on my office computer. I thought it was a real > > > tone from the monitor because if I covered my ears it got quieter. > > > > > > Now I find that it is not real. Depending on the exact position of > > my > > > head and hands, I can make it turn off by applying slight pressure > > > above my ear using two fingers. Or wrapping my left arm over my > > > head and putting that hand near my right ear, the sound can be > > > turned off and on by turning my head by about 5 degrees. > > > Or I can turn the sound on and off by just touching a finger from > > > that hand in front of my right ear. Putting a thin piece of > > cardboard > > > between the finger and head I was no longer able to get switching. > > > > > > In this case the loud tone was in my right ear. There's also a > > quieter > > > and higher (almost ultrasonic) tone in my left ear which remained > > > constant (that ear's been ringing a couple days now in quiet > > envrionmnets). > > > > > > This office has aluminum on the walls and may have some interesting > > > electrical properties. Anyone heard of anything like this? I'm > > not sure > > > it will work the same tomorrow but while it was working the sound > > would > > > turn on and off instantly, and reliably. I could easily have sent > > Morse > > > code. > > > > > > Using an Electrosmog Meter I get 20 mV/m max (50 MHz-3.5GHz). > > > Trifield ~.2 milligauss. I am near my Mac keyboard and mouse that > > emit AM > > > band RF. > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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