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In einer eMail vom 10.01.2008 21:44:06 Westeuropäische Normalzeit schreibt  
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In a message dated 1/10/2008 6:01:30 PM GMT Standard Time,
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On Jan 10, 2008 11:00 AM, Bill Bruno <__wbruno@gmail._wb_
(mailto:[hidden email]) _
(mailto:_wbruno@gmail.wbr_ (mailto:[hidden email]) ) > wrote:

> I was told by a guy from Sweden that in high school his teacher
> told them to clench their back teeth for a minute. Most of the
> boys could hear a ringing but not the girls, and the teacher
> said this was typical. But generally the tone stops as soon as
> the teeth are relaxed. The guy is now grown up and it still works.
> I tried it and it worked too but the ringing did not stop right away for
> me...
>
> Bill

MAYBE WE ARE TALKING PEIZO ELECTRIC EFFECTS ?

Paul uk



This is not a piezoelektric effect. When you clench the teeth you contract  
the muscles in the cheek and many thousands of muscle fibers do hundres of  
contractiones per second; this you can hear and putting elektrodes on the cheek  
with an amplifier you will hear ist also, because from EKG we know the each  
muscle fiber creates a short electrical potential while contracting.
 
Dietrich Gruen M.D.



   


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Re: bizarre tinnitus effects

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In a message dated 1/19/2008 11:41:55 PM GMT Standard Time, [hidden email]
writes:

This is not a piezoelektric effect. When you clench the teeth you contract
the muscles in the cheek and many thousands of muscle fibers do hundres of
contractiones per second; this you can hear and putting elektrodes on the
cheek
with an amplifier you will hear ist also, because from EKG we know the each
muscle fiber creates a short electrical potential while contracting.

Dietrich Gruen M.D.



Thanks that is very interesting, could a test be done with a muscle relaxant
to see if face/head/neck muscles are to tight for what ever reason, maybe
weak electromagnetic feilds are cuasing muscles to become taught at micro
levels enough to stimulate a constant electrical emission from the muscles leading
to tinitus in the ears for some ?

PAUL UK






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BiBrun
That's a very interesting thought.

I've heard of beer and wine being beneficial (and I do drink tiny amounts,
like 0.25 to 1 glass
of wine, seldom more as I seem to be prone to hangover-like effects). Also,
anti-convulsive
drugs (but I've heard these are often addictive).

There are relaxation techniques involving tensing and releasing muscles.
Maybe worth trying.

On another topic, I've been reading about transmission lines. They carry
quite a spectrum of
EMF noise that can be measured half mile to a mile away (i.e., 1.6 km). The
noise increases
in bad weather or high humidity. It can also be assumed to increase when
lots of inductive
loads are being switched on and off, in cold weather (e.g., heater
fans--forced air heat is almost universal
around where I live).

I even wonder whether rheumatism acting up with high humidity is caused by
this effect?

Another big source of RF noise is (non-diesel) car ignitions from nearby
roads.

Bill

On Jan 20, 2008 3:55 AM, <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> In a message dated 1/19/2008 11:41:55 PM GMT Standard Time,
> [hidden email] <Gruendg%40aol.com>
>
> writes:
>
> This is not a piezoelektric effect. When you clench the teeth you contract
>
> the muscles in the cheek and many thousands of muscle fibers do hundres of
>
> contractiones per second; this you can hear and putting elektrodes on the
> cheek
> with an amplifier you will hear ist also, because from EKG we know the
> each
> muscle fiber creates a short electrical potential while contracting.
>
> Dietrich Gruen M.D.
>
> Thanks that is very interesting, could a test be done with a muscle
> relaxant
> to see if face/head/neck muscles are to tight for what ever reason, maybe
> weak electromagnetic feilds are cuasing muscles to become taught at micro
> levels enough to stimulate a constant electrical emission from the muscles
> leading
> to tinitus in the ears for some ?
>
> PAUL UK
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>


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In a message dated 1/20/2008 4:05:42 PM GMT Standard Time, [hidden email]
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That's a very interesting thought.

I've heard of beer and wine being beneficial (and I do drink tiny amounts,
like 0.25 to 1 glass
of wine, seldom more as I seem to be prone to hangover-like effects). Also,
anti-convulsive
drugs (but I've heard these are often addictive).

There are relaxation techniques involving tensing and releasing muscles.
Maybe worth trying.

On another topic, I've been reading about transmission lines. They carry
quite a spectrum of
EMF noise that can be measured half mile to a mile away (i.e., 1.6 km). The
noise increases
in bad weather or high humidity. It can also be assumed to increase when
lots of inductive
loads are being switched on and off, in cold weather (e.g., heater
fans--forced air heat is almost universal
around where I live).

I even wonder whether rheumatism acting up with high humidity is caused by
this effect?

Another big source of RF noise is (non-diesel) car ignitions from nearby
roads.

Bill

On Jan 20, 2008 3:55 AM, <_paulpjc@aol.pau_ (mailto:[hidden email]) > wrote:

>
> In a message dated 1/19/2008 11:41:55 PM GMT Standard Time,
> _Gruendg@aol.Gru_ (mailto:[hidden email]) <Gruendg%40aol.Gru>
>
> writes:
>
> This is not a piezoelektric effect. When you clench the teeth you contract
>
> the muscles in the cheek and many thousands of muscle fibers do hundres of
>
> contractiones per second; this you can hear and putting elektrodes on the
> cheek
> with an amplifier you will hear ist also, because from EKG we know the
> each
> muscle fiber creates a short electrical potential while contracting.
>
> Dietrich Gruen M.D.
>
> Thanks that is very interesting, could a test be done with a muscle
> relaxant
> to see if face/head/neck muscles are to tight for what ever reason, maybe
> weak electromagnetic feilds are cuasing muscles to become taught at micro
> levels enough to stimulate a constant electrical emission from the muscles
> leading
> to tinitus in the ears for some ?
>
> PAUL UK
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

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For sure I feel telephone masts worse on wet cloudy days, today I went for a
walk with my family we ascended a high hill and then down, part way up I felt
drained/zapped then it cleared as I reached the bottom I again felt drained,
we walked along a river bank I as we approached a large bend in the river my
face began to sting and I felt again drained, when we eventually came round
the corner there was a large pumping station with pumps going ten to the
dozen and overhead power lines, it puts a whole new meaning to the term POWER
WALKING !

PS siting here in front of the laptop (1.5m away) I have sheilding fabric
around my head, but as the screen is so far from me I have to wear glasses, cant
win sheilding fabric buys me time but I note that the glasses which have a
metal frame are cuasing my eyelids to burn !

pps I had a thought earlier on - what if you could invent a form of
communication that uses the butterfly effect perhaps using nanotechnology and quantum
effects so that you stimulate a particle at a distance without using
radiowaves, now thats a thought !

PAUL UK








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Re: bizarre tinnitus effects

BiBrun
Fiber optics are perhaps the poor man's butterfly effect.

You might want to try putting the fabric around the monitor but
with at least an inch or two of air gap between. I mostly just
keep my distance and use large fonts.

Bill

On Jan 20, 2008 12:50 PM, <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> In a message dated 1/20/2008 4:05:42 PM GMT Standard Time,
> [hidden email] <wbruno%40gmail.com>
>
> writes:
>
> That's a very interesting thought.
>
> I've heard of beer and wine being beneficial (and I do drink tiny amounts,
> like 0.25 to 1 glass
> of wine, seldom more as I seem to be prone to hangover-like effects).
> Also,
> anti-convulsive
> drugs (but I've heard these are often addictive).
>
> There are relaxation techniques involving tensing and releasing muscles.
> Maybe worth trying.
>
> On another topic, I've been reading about transmission lines. They carry
> quite a spectrum of
> EMF noise that can be measured half mile to a mile away (i.e., 1.6 km).
> The
> noise increases
> in bad weather or high humidity. It can also be assumed to increase when
> lots of inductive
> loads are being switched on and off, in cold weather (e.g., heater
> fans--forced air heat is almost universal
> around where I live).
>
> I even wonder whether rheumatism acting up with high humidity is caused by
> this effect?
>
> Another big source of RF noise is (non-diesel) car ignitions from nearby
> roads.
>
> Bill
>
> On Jan 20, 2008 3:55 AM, <[hidden email] <_paulpjc%40aol.pau>_ (mailto:
> [hidden email] <paulpjc%40aol.com>) > wrote:
>
> >
> > In a message dated 1/19/2008 11:41:55 PM GMT Standard Time,
> > [hidden email] <_Gruendg%40aol.Gru>_ (mailto:[hidden email]<Gruendg%40aol.com>)
> <Gruendg%40aol.Gru>
> >
> > writes:
> >
> > This is not a piezoelektric effect. When you clench the teeth you
> contract
> >
> > the muscles in the cheek and many thousands of muscle fibers do hundres
> of
> >
> > contractiones per second; this you can hear and putting elektrodes on
> the
> > cheek
> > with an amplifier you will hear ist also, because from EKG we know the
> > each
> > muscle fiber creates a short electrical potential while contracting.
> >
> > Dietrich Gruen M.D.
> >
> > Thanks that is very interesting, could a test be done with a muscle
> > relaxant
> > to see if face/head/neck muscles are to tight for what ever reason,
> maybe
> > weak electromagnetic feilds are cuasing muscles to become taught at
> micro
> > levels enough to stimulate a constant electrical emission from the
> muscles
> > leading
> > to tinitus in the ears for some ?
> >
> > PAUL UK
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> For sure I feel telephone masts worse on wet cloudy days, today I went for
> a
> walk with my family we ascended a high hill and then down, part way up I
> felt
> drained/zapped then it cleared as I reached the bottom I again felt
> drained,
> we walked along a river bank I as we approached a large bend in the river
> my
> face began to sting and I felt again drained, when we eventually came
> round
> the corner there was a large pumping station with pumps going ten to the
> dozen and overhead power lines, it puts a whole new meaning to the term
> POWER
> WALKING !
>
> PS siting here in front of the laptop (1.5m away) I have sheilding fabric
> around my head, but as the screen is so far from me I have to wear
> glasses, cant
> win sheilding fabric buys me time but I note that the glasses which have a
>
> metal frame are cuasing my eyelids to burn !
>
> pps I had a thought earlier on - what if you could invent a form of
> communication that uses the butterfly effect perhaps using nanotechnology
> and quantum
> effects so that you stimulate a particle at a distance without using
> radiowaves, now thats a thought !
>
> PAUL UK
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>


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