In einer eMail vom 10.01.2008 21:44:06 Westeuropäische Normalzeit schreibt [hidden email]: In a message dated 1/10/2008 6:01:30 PM GMT Standard Time, _wbruno@gmail.wbr_ (mailto:[hidden email]) writes: On Jan 10, 2008 11:00 AM, Bill Bruno <__wbruno@gmail._wb_ (mailto:[hidden email]) _ (mailto:_wbruno@gmail.wbr_ (mailto:[hidden email]) ) > wrote: > I was told by a guy from Sweden that in high school his teacher > told them to clench their back teeth for a minute. Most of the > boys could hear a ringing but not the girls, and the teacher > said this was typical. But generally the tone stops as soon as > the teeth are relaxed. The guy is now grown up and it still works. > I tried it and it worked too but the ringing did not stop right away for > me... > > Bill MAYBE WE ARE TALKING PEIZO ELECTRIC EFFECTS ? Paul uk This is not a piezoelektric effect. When you clench the teeth you contract the muscles in the cheek and many thousands of muscle fibers do hundres of contractiones per second; this you can hear and putting elektrodes on the cheek with an amplifier you will hear ist also, because from EKG we know the each muscle fiber creates a short electrical potential while contracting. Dietrich Gruen M.D. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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In a message dated 1/19/2008 11:41:55 PM GMT Standard Time, [hidden email] writes: This is not a piezoelektric effect. When you clench the teeth you contract the muscles in the cheek and many thousands of muscle fibers do hundres of contractiones per second; this you can hear and putting elektrodes on the cheek with an amplifier you will hear ist also, because from EKG we know the each muscle fiber creates a short electrical potential while contracting. Dietrich Gruen M.D. Thanks that is very interesting, could a test be done with a muscle relaxant to see if face/head/neck muscles are to tight for what ever reason, maybe weak electromagnetic feilds are cuasing muscles to become taught at micro levels enough to stimulate a constant electrical emission from the muscles leading to tinitus in the ears for some ? PAUL UK [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
That's a very interesting thought.
I've heard of beer and wine being beneficial (and I do drink tiny amounts, like 0.25 to 1 glass of wine, seldom more as I seem to be prone to hangover-like effects). Also, anti-convulsive drugs (but I've heard these are often addictive). There are relaxation techniques involving tensing and releasing muscles. Maybe worth trying. On another topic, I've been reading about transmission lines. They carry quite a spectrum of EMF noise that can be measured half mile to a mile away (i.e., 1.6 km). The noise increases in bad weather or high humidity. It can also be assumed to increase when lots of inductive loads are being switched on and off, in cold weather (e.g., heater fans--forced air heat is almost universal around where I live). I even wonder whether rheumatism acting up with high humidity is caused by this effect? Another big source of RF noise is (non-diesel) car ignitions from nearby roads. Bill On Jan 20, 2008 3:55 AM, <[hidden email]> wrote: > > In a message dated 1/19/2008 11:41:55 PM GMT Standard Time, > [hidden email] <Gruendg%40aol.com> > > writes: > > This is not a piezoelektric effect. When you clench the teeth you contract > > the muscles in the cheek and many thousands of muscle fibers do hundres of > > contractiones per second; this you can hear and putting elektrodes on the > cheek > with an amplifier you will hear ist also, because from EKG we know the > each > muscle fiber creates a short electrical potential while contracting. > > Dietrich Gruen M.D. > > Thanks that is very interesting, could a test be done with a muscle > relaxant > to see if face/head/neck muscles are to tight for what ever reason, maybe > weak electromagnetic feilds are cuasing muscles to become taught at micro > levels enough to stimulate a constant electrical emission from the muscles > leading > to tinitus in the ears for some ? > > PAUL UK > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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In a message dated 1/20/2008 4:05:42 PM GMT Standard Time, [hidden email] writes: That's a very interesting thought. I've heard of beer and wine being beneficial (and I do drink tiny amounts, like 0.25 to 1 glass of wine, seldom more as I seem to be prone to hangover-like effects). Also, anti-convulsive drugs (but I've heard these are often addictive). There are relaxation techniques involving tensing and releasing muscles. Maybe worth trying. On another topic, I've been reading about transmission lines. They carry quite a spectrum of EMF noise that can be measured half mile to a mile away (i.e., 1.6 km). The noise increases in bad weather or high humidity. It can also be assumed to increase when lots of inductive loads are being switched on and off, in cold weather (e.g., heater fans--forced air heat is almost universal around where I live). I even wonder whether rheumatism acting up with high humidity is caused by this effect? Another big source of RF noise is (non-diesel) car ignitions from nearby roads. Bill On Jan 20, 2008 3:55 AM, <_paulpjc@aol.pau_ (mailto:[hidden email]) > wrote: > > In a message dated 1/19/2008 11:41:55 PM GMT Standard Time, > _Gruendg@aol.Gru_ (mailto:[hidden email]) <Gruendg%40aol.Gru> > > writes: > > This is not a piezoelektric effect. When you clench the teeth you contract > > the muscles in the cheek and many thousands of muscle fibers do hundres of > > contractiones per second; this you can hear and putting elektrodes on the > cheek > with an amplifier you will hear ist also, because from EKG we know the > each > muscle fiber creates a short electrical potential while contracting. > > Dietrich Gruen M.D. > > Thanks that is very interesting, could a test be done with a muscle > relaxant > to see if face/head/neck muscles are to tight for what ever reason, maybe > weak electromagnetic feilds are cuasing muscles to become taught at micro > levels enough to stimulate a constant electrical emission from the muscles > leading > to tinitus in the ears for some ? > > PAUL UK > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] For sure I feel telephone masts worse on wet cloudy days, today I went for a walk with my family we ascended a high hill and then down, part way up I felt drained/zapped then it cleared as I reached the bottom I again felt drained, we walked along a river bank I as we approached a large bend in the river my face began to sting and I felt again drained, when we eventually came round the corner there was a large pumping station with pumps going ten to the dozen and overhead power lines, it puts a whole new meaning to the term POWER WALKING ! PS siting here in front of the laptop (1.5m away) I have sheilding fabric around my head, but as the screen is so far from me I have to wear glasses, cant win sheilding fabric buys me time but I note that the glasses which have a metal frame are cuasing my eyelids to burn ! pps I had a thought earlier on - what if you could invent a form of communication that uses the butterfly effect perhaps using nanotechnology and quantum effects so that you stimulate a particle at a distance without using radiowaves, now thats a thought ! PAUL UK [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Fiber optics are perhaps the poor man's butterfly effect.
You might want to try putting the fabric around the monitor but with at least an inch or two of air gap between. I mostly just keep my distance and use large fonts. Bill On Jan 20, 2008 12:50 PM, <[hidden email]> wrote: > > In a message dated 1/20/2008 4:05:42 PM GMT Standard Time, > [hidden email] <wbruno%40gmail.com> > > writes: > > That's a very interesting thought. > > I've heard of beer and wine being beneficial (and I do drink tiny amounts, > like 0.25 to 1 glass > of wine, seldom more as I seem to be prone to hangover-like effects). > Also, > anti-convulsive > drugs (but I've heard these are often addictive). > > There are relaxation techniques involving tensing and releasing muscles. > Maybe worth trying. > > On another topic, I've been reading about transmission lines. They carry > quite a spectrum of > EMF noise that can be measured half mile to a mile away (i.e., 1.6 km). > The > noise increases > in bad weather or high humidity. It can also be assumed to increase when > lots of inductive > loads are being switched on and off, in cold weather (e.g., heater > fans--forced air heat is almost universal > around where I live). > > I even wonder whether rheumatism acting up with high humidity is caused by > this effect? > > Another big source of RF noise is (non-diesel) car ignitions from nearby > roads. > > Bill > > On Jan 20, 2008 3:55 AM, <[hidden email] <_paulpjc%40aol.pau>_ (mailto: > [hidden email] <paulpjc%40aol.com>) > wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 1/19/2008 11:41:55 PM GMT Standard Time, > > [hidden email] <_Gruendg%40aol.Gru>_ (mailto:[hidden email]<Gruendg%40aol.com>) > <Gruendg%40aol.Gru> > > > > writes: > > > > This is not a piezoelektric effect. When you clench the teeth you > contract > > > > the muscles in the cheek and many thousands of muscle fibers do hundres > of > > > > contractiones per second; this you can hear and putting elektrodes on > the > > cheek > > with an amplifier you will hear ist also, because from EKG we know the > > each > > muscle fiber creates a short electrical potential while contracting. > > > > Dietrich Gruen M.D. > > > > Thanks that is very interesting, could a test be done with a muscle > > relaxant > > to see if face/head/neck muscles are to tight for what ever reason, > maybe > > weak electromagnetic feilds are cuasing muscles to become taught at > micro > > levels enough to stimulate a constant electrical emission from the > muscles > > leading > > to tinitus in the ears for some ? > > > > PAUL UK > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > For sure I feel telephone masts worse on wet cloudy days, today I went for > a > walk with my family we ascended a high hill and then down, part way up I > felt > drained/zapped then it cleared as I reached the bottom I again felt > drained, > we walked along a river bank I as we approached a large bend in the river > my > face began to sting and I felt again drained, when we eventually came > round > the corner there was a large pumping station with pumps going ten to the > dozen and overhead power lines, it puts a whole new meaning to the term > POWER > WALKING ! > > PS siting here in front of the laptop (1.5m away) I have sheilding fabric > around my head, but as the screen is so far from me I have to wear > glasses, cant > win sheilding fabric buys me time but I note that the glasses which have a > > metal frame are cuasing my eyelids to burn ! > > pps I had a thought earlier on - what if you could invent a form of > communication that uses the butterfly effect perhaps using nanotechnology > and quantum > effects so that you stimulate a particle at a distance without using > radiowaves, now thats a thought ! > > PAUL UK > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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