Why am I not recovering at the off-grid cabin?

Salut, all. I'm not getting much recovery at all since the Smart Meter exposure in March. It feels a lot like what ppl describe as MS. Anyway, 2 possible contributing factors:

1) I live in a  tiny, 1-room cabin w/ a little loft/attic where I sleep. The boat battery used for the solar is only about 20 feet from me, & altho I turn everything off at nite (main disconnects, DC array collecting power from panel & charging battery w/ it), maybe I'm still getting fx from it when I sleep somehow?

2)The other factor is that I have a landline there. The owners installed it themselves, & it runs from the bottom of the hill, mounted along trees all the way up the hill, then runs across the cabin, underneath my bed. I can be pretty close to regular (non-hi-transmission) power lines w/o much of a problem, so I'm guessing it's the battery that's more of a problem, but don't have a way to tell which it is.

I noticed today that I don't feel so much intense burning, nausea & dizziness when I go to the bottom of the hill & sleep in my car. But then that confuses me, b/c there's a battery of similar power in my car, altho since it's surrounded by metal parts, maybe I'm protected from it? Others have mentioned being bothered by the solar panel itself. I just thought if you turn off whatever distributes power from the panel to the battery, that the panel is just "inert", & so is the battery. Am I wrong? I was thinking of covering the battery in thick tinfoil, or getting a Faraday canopy, but I can't afford the canopy & have also heard others mentioning that shielding fabrics just make things worse? Advice/suggestions welcome.

Love & blessings,
E. Drew


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I would make sure the phone line is not grounded
or grounded only through a spark gap for lightning protection.
See if the magnetic field is higher near the ground rod for
the phone if there is one.  Any antennas nearby or chemical
fumes?

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Thanks, Bill. How would I tell if the phone line is grounded? (i.e. where would I look) and how would I ground it myself if it weren't grounded? Also, what is a spark gap? And what kind of antennas should I be looking for? I know there's a cell tower about a mile away, & that everyone in this town has satellite TV, but i'm  not sure what else could be going on. The phone line was put in by the power company originally, but they only agreed to bring it as far as the bottom of the hill, then the owners of the cabin got their own cable & continued it from there.

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I would make sure the phone line is not grounded
or grounded only through a spark gap for lightning protection.
See if the magnetic field is higher near the ground rod for
the phone if there is one.  Any antennas nearby or chemical
fumes?

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Look where it enters the house.

It's possible to react to a cell tower  a mile away.
Try metal screen and foil on that wall?

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You say that you feel better at the bottom of the hill. Does the hill obscure line of sight from the celltower when you are at the bottom of it. As mentioned above, if you're ES, strong reactions at 1 mile distance are very possible. Peace x

Sounds like your problem is low frequency dirty power, this could be coming
 from your phone line, you need to isolate that from your living space, the
 location of you cabin may be suffering from multiple problems, when you
use  fabrics and it make matters worse this says to me that LF RF is a problem
this  comes off cell phone waves and so on so the tower issue is also
viable  problem.  Have you tried checking with an AM radio, that said not all AM  
radios are that good at receiving interference some have better build
quality  than others so you have to find one that low imunity to interfernce, ie
get as  many as you can and try them out until you find a good one, I buy
them at car  boot sales whenever I see them.
 
puk
 
 
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writes:

Look  where it enters the house.

It's possible to react to a cell tower   a mile away.
Try metal screen and foil on that wall?

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<[hidden email]>wrote:

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>
> Thanks,  Bill. How would I tell if the phone line is grounded? (i.e. where
>  would I look) and how would I ground it myself if it weren't grounded?  
Also,
> what is a spark gap? And what kind of antennas should I be  looking for? I
> know there's a cell tower about a mile away, & that  everyone in this town
> has satellite TV, but i'm  not sure what  else could be going on. The
phone
> line was put in by the power company  originally, but they only agreed to
> bring it as far as the bottom of  the hill, then the owners of the cabin
got Anyway, 2
> > possible contributing  factors:
> >
> > 1) I live in a  tiny, 1-room cabin w/  a little loft/attic where I
sleep.
> > The boat battery used for the  solar is only about 20 feet from me, &
> altho I
> > turn  everything off at nite (main disconnects, DC array collecting
power
>  > from panel & charging battery w/ it), maybe I'm still getting fx from  
it
> > when I sleep somehow?
> >
> > 2)The other  factor is that I have a landline there. The owners
installed
>  it
> > themselves, & it runs from the bottom of the hill, mounted  along trees
> all
> > the way up the hill, then runs across the  cabin, underneath my bed. I
can
> be
> > pretty close to  regular (non-hi-transmission) power lines w/o much of a
> > problem,  so I'm guessing it's the battery that's more of a problem, but
> >  don't have a way to tell which it is.
> >
> > I noticed  today that I don't feel so much intense burning, nausea &
> >  dizziness when I go to the bottom of the hill & sleep in my car. But  
then
> > that confuses me, b/c there's a battery of similar power in  my car,
altho
> > since it's surrounded by metal parts, maybe I'm  protected from it?
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The demons will follow you. Give it
some time and perhaps you'll eventually
recover. When I went camping at Green Bank,
WV I still had all of my symptoms. Silly me
thought they would vanish overnight.
Though the RF was very low, there was
a lot of recovering required from the long
drive, and years of exposure to unwind.
Besides there was still driving to scout
the place. The power lines on the road
averaged 3-5 milli gauss - bummer.

Eli

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>  I know there's a cell tower about a mile away

Aha, that might be the key, especially if you sleep better DOWN the
hill, where reception is worse.

As for the battery, yes I react to batteries hooked up to nothing, but
at 20 ft. away, I would tend to say it is something else.

Stewart

 Off-grid systems that involve an inverter have terribly dirty electricity, as the invertor creates it.

I plugged in several Stetzer filters at an off-grid place and had to pull them out pronto.  The filters were so overworked trying to destroy the strange waveforms the inverter was creating that they were screaming.   And the inverter system was beginning to smell like hot plastic.  These folks had built a "green" straw bale home and had no idea what a toxic home they lived in.  BTW, their cat had leukemia.

Even without an inverter, there can be equipment involved that's creating harmful frequencies.  A friend of mine is working on going off-grid, as We Energies is about to turn off her power bcause she wpuld not accept their RF-broadcasting meter.  She has worked very hard to put together a DC solar system that does not create harmful frequencies but has run into problems as some components that were supposed to be able to work without creating frequencies do create harmful freuencies.  This is Catherine Kleiber of www.electricalpollution.com.  She can tell you which components have been the offenders.

Shivani Arjuna
www.LifeEnergies.com

 




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I get stinging on my face when near car batteries !
 
 
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Elysia Drew wrote:
> I know there's a cell tower about a mile  away

Aha, that might be the key, especially if you sleep better DOWN  the
hill, where reception is worse.

As for the battery, yes I react  to batteries hooked up to nothing, but
at 20 ft. away, I would tend to say  it is something else.

Stewart




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Yeah, I can't see the cell tower from the bottom of the hill. 

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I'm honestly not sure how far away the cell tower is. I can see it relatively clearly, enuf to see those weird signal-distributing drum things all around it, but if I look at it & pinch the image between my fingers, it's literally only 1/2" tall. Maybe it's farther than a mile. I just know that I'm waking up w/ that feeling like my ocular & cranial nerves have been cooked a little bit (not nearly as bad as w/ Smart Meters). There will be Smart Meters 1/4 mile away by August/September, so if I moved to the bottom of the hill, I'd be closer to that. I wish I could say I can just choose my poison, but all of it feels like varying levels of torture, & knowing that this is happening b/c of basic human greed & that all the EHSers efforts to stop it are being ignored, is really psychologically damaging :(

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To: [hidden email]
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The demons will follow you. Give it

some time and perhaps you'll eventually

recover. When I went camping at Green Bank,

WV I still had all of my symptoms. Silly me

thought they would vanish overnight.

Though the RF was very low, there was

a lot of recovering required from the long

drive, and years of exposure to unwind.

Besides there was still driving to scout

the place. The power lines on the road

averaged 3-5 milli gauss - bummer.



Eli



--- In [hidden email], Elysia Drew <necessejamais@...> wrote:

>

> Salut, all. I'm not getting much recovery at all since the Smart Meter exposure in March. It feels a lot like what ppl describe as MS. Anyway, 2 possible contributing factors:

>

> 1) I live in a  tiny, 1-room cabin w/ a little loft/attic where I sleep. The boat battery used for the solar is only about 20 feet from me, & altho I turn everything off at nite (main disconnects, DC array collecting power from panel & charging battery w/ it), maybe I'm still getting fx from it when I sleep somehow?

>

> 2)The other factor is that I have a landline there. The owners installed it themselves, & it runs from the bottom of the hill, mounted along trees all the way up the hill, then runs across the cabin, underneath my bed. I can be pretty close to regular (non-hi-transmission) power lines w/o much of a problem, so I'm guessing it's the battery that's more of a problem, but don't have a way to tell which it is.

>

> I noticed today that I don't feel so much intense burning, nausea & dizziness when I go to the bottom of the hill & sleep in my car. But then that confuses me, b/c there's a battery of similar power in my car, altho since it's surrounded by metal parts, maybe I'm protected from it? Others have mentioned being bothered by the solar panel itself. I just thought if you turn off whatever distributes power from the panel to the battery, that the panel is just "inert", & so is the battery. Am I wrong? I was thinking of covering the battery in thick tinfoil, or getting a Faraday canopy, but I can't afford the canopy & have also heard others mentioning that shielding fabrics just make things worse? Advice/suggestions welcome.

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> Love & blessings,

> E. Drew

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I am so with you on this frustration - as far as the drum things are  
concerned they are hertzian repeaters and fire a pencil beam of high frequency  
radiation over great distances to other such devices, you may well be feeling
 the strafe from these beams if they are aiming in your direction, they may
well  be shooting straight over your house
 
puk
 
 
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bottom  of the hill, I'd be closer to that. I wish I could say I can just
choose my  poison, but all of it feels like varying levels of torture, &
knowing that  this is happening b/c of basic human greed & that all the EHSers
efforts  to stop it are being ignored, is really psychologically damaging  :(




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I'm guessing you're right. I've now gotten so much more sensitive to my cellphone, perhaps b/c the tower is so powerful (even tho. it's probably a little over a mile away). After 1hr. of cellphone use, WITH a shielding hood covering my head (but not covering my face) there's now CONSTANT muscle pain & pressure around my cranial & ocular nerves, & in my legs, so much that I can barely sleep anymore. I NEVER used to get leg muscle pain, even after 17 years of Lyme disease. I really hope there's a special place in Heaven for people who suffer constantly from exposures others refuse to acknowledge as a problem, while being resented for being sick, even by those they most care about. My family is upset with me for wanting to give up, but they don't realize I want to give up b/c they keep ridiculing me for not having a job, even tho they know that between illness & pain, pesticides, mold & Smart Meters, there's no safe place I can work & I'm too sick to have a
 regular schedule. Does anyone else have these issues? I'm only 25 and got chem. sensitive at age 21, so I can't even look back fondly on those days when I had a career & was able to provide for myself, b/c those days never even happened. 
In the words of Antony Hegarty: "I need another world. This one's nearly gone." 

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      I am so with you on this frustration - as far as the drum things are  

concerned they are hertzian repeaters and fire a pencil beam of high frequency  

radiation over great distances to other such devices, you may well be feeling

 the strafe from these beams if they are aiming in your direction, they may

well  be shooting straight over your house

 

puk

 

 

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bottom  of the hill, I'd be closer to that. I wish I could say I can just

choose my  poison, but all of it feels like varying levels of torture, &

knowing that  this is happening b/c of basic human greed & that all the EHSers

efforts  to stop it are being ignored, is really psychologically damaging  :(



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Did you say 1 hour of cell phone use?
Was that in one sitting?

No wonder your feeling horrible.
That's way, way too long. Cell phones should
be used for just a few seconds in case of
emergency, or text instead.

Eli

--- In [hidden email], Elysia Drew <necessejamais@...> wrote:

Elysia Drew wrote:
> I'm guessing you're right. I've now gotten so much more sensitive to my cellphone, perhaps b/c the tower is so powerful (even tho. it's probably a little over a mile away). After 1hr. of cellphone use,

Using a transmitter for one hour with EHS is sure to cause severe
symptoms that will take days if not weeks to recover from.

Even with shielding, the signal can not be erased at such short distances.


> problem, while being resented for being sick, even by those they most care about. My family is upset with me for wanting to give up, but they don't realize I want to give up b/c they keep ridiculing me

In other words, you feel like giving up because they call you a liar,
and they slander your name.
All because they have not walked in your, or our, shoes.
Maybe if you can gently explain it that way, they will rethink their
attitude, at least a little would be a step in the right direction.
Showing more empathy and love for fellow man is the greatest commandment.


>  for not having a job, even tho they know that between illness & pain, pesticides, mold & Smart Meters, there's no safe place I can work & I'm too sick to have a
>  regular schedule. Does anyone else have these issues?

Absolutely.

You touch my heart, and I'm sorry I can't provide more help.

Stewart

I did it b/c I had shielding fabric on, which helped me be able to use it for 2 hrs. last time, but this time it seemed to backfire. 

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Did you say 1 hour of cell phone use?

Was that in one sitting?



No wonder your feeling horrible.

That's way, way too long. Cell phones should

be used for just a few seconds in case of

emergency, or text instead.



Eli



--- In [hidden email], Elysia Drew <necessejamais@...> wrote:

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> I'm guessing you're right. I've now gotten so much more sensitive to my cellphone, perhaps b/c the tower is so powerful (even tho. it's probably a little over a mile away). After 1hr. of cellphone use, WITH a shielding hood covering my head (but not covering my face) there's now CONSTANT muscle pain & pressure around my cranial & ocular nerves, & in my legs, so much that I can barely sleep anymore. I NEVER used to get leg muscle pain, even after 17 years of Lyme disease. I really hope there's a special place in Heaven for people who suffer constantly from exposures others refuse to acknowledge as a problem, while being resented for being sick, even by those they most care about. My family is upset with me for wanting to give up, but they don't realize I want to give up b/c they keep ridiculing me for not having a job, even tho they know that between illness & pain, pesticides, mold & Smart Meters, there's no safe place I can work & I'm too sick to have
 a

>  regular schedule. Does anyone else have these issues? I'm only 25 and got chem. sensitive at age 21, so I can't even look back fondly on those days when I had a career & was able to provide for myself, b/c those days never even happened. 

> In the words of Antony Hegarty: "I need another world. This one's nearly gone." 

>

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Hi, Stewart. My hugs, blessings & prayers go out to all you guys. It's strange, b/c my folks recognize MCS and EHS at times, but then when I need help (ex., I need $700 to get 2 cord of split wood transported up to the cabin by the fall), they just totally resent me, & yet are willing to let my brother make all kinds of mistakes: marrying someone he didn't love, ruining his credit, having kids too early, having unstable employment, barely scraping by academically, & then financially. It all comes down to money. Bottom line is I've cost them more money b/c of all the medical bills, so I'm more of a disappointment, even tho I'm a nicer, more compassionate person whose problems are due to environmental factors completely beyond her control, rather than self-created mistakes like partying too much, slacking off & not thinking anything through. Seems like all of us who have unrecognized, yet extremely debilitating, chronic illnesses keep encountering
 situations similar to, or worse, than this. It would be so different if the illnesses were recognized, b/c then family & friends would put the blame where it belongs (on certain corporations & gov'ts) rather than blaming the victim. 
I've tried comparing enviro illness to plagues & disease that have wiped out populations in the past, & I think in some ways enviro-illness is worse b/c it's sthg. within our control. It's caused by greedy, apathetic petrochemical, pharmaceutical & telecom industries & gov'ts. We could stop it, but society chooses not to. There's something really disturbing & psychologically damaging about that. It's not some bacteria that wipes out huge swaths of the population & levels the biological playing field, but rather, it affects a relatively amount of people at first, and when we try to speak out about it, we get ostracized & get sicker from more exposures. 
It's also difficult not to feel like a disappointment not only to one's family, but also to oneself and humanity, b/c not only can you not protect yourself, it's become impossible to make this world a safe place for future generations. I can't imagine what it must be like to be a tiny baby right now & have no chance for my cells to develop properly b/c of constant interruption & disruption of the bioelectrical intra & intercellular communication vital for survival & good health. I think that, coupled w/ chemical exposures, the EMFs contribute heavily to autism. Ex: I just found out my dad's friend's son, age 2, has autism. I asked if the mom was on the computer a lot & was told she's an online gamer & was online almost 24/7 when pregnant. I can't really fathom how society is going to handle the health costs from this new level of EMF exposure.  
-E. Drew

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      Elysia Drew wrote:

> I'm guessing you're right. I've now gotten so much more sensitive to my cellphone, perhaps b/c the tower is so powerful (even tho. it's probably a little over a mile away). After 1hr. of cellphone use,



Using a transmitter for one hour with EHS is sure to cause severe

symptoms that will take days if not weeks to recover from.



Even with shielding, the signal can not be erased at such short distances.



> problem, while being resented for being sick, even by those they most care about. My family is upset with me for wanting to give up, but they don't realize I want to give up b/c they keep ridiculing me



In other words, you feel like giving up because they call you a liar,

and they slander your name.

All because they have not walked in your, or our, shoes.

Maybe if you can gently explain it that way, they will rethink their

attitude, at least a little would be a step in the right direction.

Showing more empathy and love for fellow man is the greatest commandment.



>  for not having a job, even tho they know that between illness & pain, pesticides, mold & Smart Meters, there's no safe place I can work & I'm too sick to have a

>  regular schedule. Does anyone else have these issues?



Absolutely.



You touch my heart, and I'm sorry I can't provide more help.



Stewart





   
     

   
   


 



 










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Its one of the biggest frustrations that comes with ES, only yesterday I  
went into a pub to see my brother, he was with 2 other family members, he
asked  me how I was, and so I told him it was the usual story, killing time out
of the  house until the man over the road turns his Plasma Tv from hell off
at  9pm.  They all lept down my throat evan though the way I expressed
myself  was rather quiet and throwaway, all of a sudden the neandertal gene
kicked in  and they were all ridiculling me, oh you dont want to see my new TV,
perhaps the  man with the plasma is an alien, getting out their mobiles and
waving them about  - all very insensitive, I then said to my cousin (as he
produced a  blackberry from his pocket)on the fact had he read the blackberry
manual re  holding it away from head and body, I said he better in case in
a few years he  could be firing blanks ! ( he is only 21)  He then became
defensive and  said in a smarmy way, 99.9% of the population havent got a
problem, so putting  the world and his wife against me - at this I started to
see red and asked him  where was his evidence to support that statement, was
he an epidemiologist all  of a sudden, why are you getting angry he said, cos
you are laughing at me !  then there was the mention of phychiatry, they
were pressing all the wrong  buttons !!!grrr I left with the comment to my
brothers, that at least I still  have a mairrage and a good family,(they are
divorced) despite all my  struggles with ES which was a bit below the belt but
hey ! Perhaps in the back  of their minds they are perplexed at how I can
hold a family together given all  and sundry, that creates confusion and thus
predjudice in them ?
 
Basically I know where you are coming from not once in all these years  
10-12yrs to be precise, has any family member given me an sensible supportive  
advice, just ridicule or patronising comments and so on they have seen my  
carreer go down the pan, ,e strugling to get a job and so on - its cruel,
sadly  its a measure of their characters, you just have to deal with each event
blow by  blow and keep up the hope and self belief and so on
 
 
puk
 
 
In a message dated 23/04/2011 17:26:17 GMT Daylight Time,  
[hidden email] writes:

attitude, at least a little would be a step in the right  direction.

Showing more empathy and love for fellow man is the  greatest commandment.

> for not having a job, even tho they know  that between illness & pain,
pesticides, mold & Smart Meters, there's  no safe place I can work & I'm too
sick to have a

> regular  schedule. Does anyone else have these issues?

Absolutely.

You  touch my heart, and I'm sorry I can't provide more  help.

Stewart




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Give them this next time!
If wireless has no effect then how come?
I have the same problem with Friends and family, but when i give them this some  start to think, maybe his not mad etc etc






Electro-Sensitivity
(ES)


Electro-sensitive
people suffer from a variety of symptoms in close vicinity to electromagnetic
fields, Wi-fi, mobiles, DECT phones, baby monitors, certain light sources etc:
Headaches, Speech problems, dizziness, chest palpations, tinnitus, sweating at
night. skin irritations, pins and needles in the hands in the mornings,
short-term memory loss, nauseas, joint aches and pressures at the back of the
head as well as in the sinus or forehead area.

 

Even if you are
not ES, it is beneficial to turn off your Wifi over night, as well as to ban
electrical items, your cordless phones and mobiles from your bedroom. You will
sleep much better and are less likely to have an interrupted sleep pattern.
Usually waking around 4 am.

 

Another simple test is to stop carrying your mobile
on your body (chest or trouser pockets). in many cases people experience the
so-called “phantom text messages”. This describes a situation where every now
and then you think you had a text message, when keeping the phone in your
pockets, but when you checked there was no message. Some even suffer from heart
palpitations. If that is case, just try for a while to carry your mobile in a
bag or switch it off, while you have it in your pocket.

 
Remember wireless has no effect????









--- On Sun, 24/4/11, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Why am I not recovering at the off-grid cabin?
To: [hidden email]
Cc: [hidden email]
Date: Sunday, 24 April, 2011, 9:58















 
 



 


   
     
     
      Its one of the biggest frustrations that comes with ES, only yesterday I  

went into a pub to see my brother, he was with 2 other family members, he

asked  me how I was, and so I told him it was the usual story, killing time out

of the  house until the man over the road turns his Plasma Tv from hell off

at  9pm.  They all lept down my throat evan though the way I expressed

myself  was rather quiet and throwaway, all of a sudden the neandertal gene

kicked in  and they were all ridiculling me, oh you dont want to see my new TV,

perhaps the  man with the plasma is an alien, getting out their mobiles and

waving them about  - all very insensitive, I then said to my cousin (as he

produced a  blackberry from his pocket)on the fact had he read the blackberry

manual re  holding it away from head and body, I said he better in case in

a few years he  could be firing blanks ! ( he is only 21)  He then became

defensive and  said in a smarmy way, 99.9% of the population havent got a

problem, so putting  the world and his wife against me - at this I started to

see red and asked him  where was his evidence to support that statement, was

he an epidemiologist all  of a sudden, why are you getting angry he said, cos

you are laughing at me !  then there was the mention of phychiatry, they

were pressing all the wrong  buttons !!!grrr I left with the comment to my

brothers, that at least I still  have a mairrage and a good family,(they are

divorced) despite all my  struggles with ES which was a bit below the belt but

hey ! Perhaps in the back  of their minds they are perplexed at how I can

hold a family together given all  and sundry, that creates confusion and thus

predjudice in them ?

 

Basically I know where you are coming from not once in all these years  

10-12yrs to be precise, has any family member given me an sensible supportive  

advice, just ridicule or patronising comments and so on they have seen my  

carreer go down the pan, ,e strugling to get a job and so on - its cruel,

sadly  its a measure of their characters, you just have to deal with each event

blow by  blow and keep up the hope and self belief and so on

 

 

puk

 

 

In a message dated 23/04/2011 17:26:17 GMT Daylight Time,  

[hidden email] writes:



attitude, at least a little would be a step in the right  direction.



Showing more empathy and love for fellow man is the  greatest commandment.



> for not having a job, even tho they know  that between illness & pain,

pesticides, mold & Smart Meters, there's  no safe place I can work & I'm too

sick to have a



> regular  schedule. Does anyone else have these issues?



Absolutely.



You  touch my heart, and I'm sorry I can't provide more  help.



Stewart



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