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> Hello,
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> the question is what do you want to measure?
> And what do you want to know about that?
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> I have all meters from Gigahertz.
> The ME 3951A has built-in filters and goes up to 400kHz, but it must be grounded.
> And because one cannot mount a probe or antenna, it is difficult to measure something.
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> I still prefer a Spectran NF5030, with a memory expansion of 20MHz.
> (And connected to a PC or laptop.)
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> With a special detector, which can measure from 5 - 30kHz and from 30kHz -150kHz, I had checked an Acer 26" monitor, which looked at that moment good.
> At home I checked with my Spectran NF, and found large high peaks around 4500kHz or 4,5MHz.
> The spectran works without grounding.
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> I do not like the Electrosmog Detector, becaus it starts measuring at a too high level, and gives electrosensitives a false sense of safety.
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> For *dirty power* I also use this Spectran NF together with a differential probe for looking into our 220V mains.
> But there is also, besides the Stetzerizer meter which goed only to 150kHz, this Entech detector, made by Alphalabs. It has a built-in speaker, which lets you hear the local radiostation. This meter goes up to 800kHz.
> Mine comes from e-bay.
>
> Greetings,
> Charles Claessens
> www.milieuziektes.nl
> www.milieuziektes.be
> www.hetbitje.nl
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>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: ad
>   To: [hidden email]
>   Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 6:37 PM
>   Subject: [eSens] Re: THINK NEED TO BUY NEW PERSONAL COMPUTER - ANYTHING TO WATCH OUT FOR?
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>   hello Charles,
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>   I know you are an absolute expert on emf-issues, having read quite some "bitjes".
>   I have a Gigahertz ME 3030B ELF-meter but it doesn't measures much in its range upto 10 kHz even at the surface of my external monitor, at least since it is earthed ( that makes the hell of a difference ... ).
>   Now my question is, will upgrading to a Gigahertz ME3830B ( or actually the ME3851A looks more attractive to me, both measure upto upto 100 kHz ) be sufficient to detect the in general ( that is : for the majority of us ) most significant EMF from monitors ?
>   The Spectran NF-5030 is of course a greater tool but rather expensive and seems to need a lot of study and attention in order to use it properly.
>   And another question, now you mention other meters, i have also two other cheap ones, a Cornet ED65 and a MW1 Electrosmog Detector, and think that the first one is ( only ) useful from 800 Mhz onwards ( it appears to work wonderful ) and the other good enough to warn against TETRA as well, is this correct ?
>   Right when the MW1 just starts detecting a DECT-phone, the Cornet indicates 5.0 microWatt/m2, good enough for me to get an impression of what's going on in the area, but this is not at 400 Mhz.
>   Btw, what helps me the most seems to simply switch off the main electricity at night, i isolated the fridge better so there is no problem with that.
>   Thanks in advance for any response.
>
>   --- In [hidden email], "charles"  wrote:
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>   > Hello Stewart,
>   >
>   > The Electrosmog meters, Cornet, Acoustimeter, etc., are NOT capable to measure what I call *dirty air*, because they cannot measure from 5kHz to 30MHz, and they lack the antennas for it.
>   >
>   > Greetings,
>   > Charles Claessens
>   > www.milieuziektes.nl
>   > www.milieuziektes.be
>   > www.hetbitje.nl
>   > checked by Emsisoft
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>   > ----- Original Message -----
>   >   From: S Andreason
>   >   To: [hidden email]
>   >   Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 3:14 AM
>   >   Subject: Re: [eSens] THINK NEED TO BUY NEW PERSONAL COMPUTER - ANYTHING TO WATCH OUT FOR?
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>   >   Hi Patricia,
>   >
>   >   "Dirty air" is another way to describe electrosmog. Anything wireless
>   >   makes dirty air, but noisy electronics are the issue here being discussed.
>   >   Any collection of electronics that are poorly designed or engineered, do
>   >   "Leak" or emit electromagnetic noise, which is what we measure and hear
>   >   with RF Meters. Any computer processor running at a high frequency will
>   >   by it's very operation make noise. The only question of relevance, is
>   >   how much, and how strong. ie. is it tolerable, and how much distance is
>   >   needed to keep away from it.
>   >
>   >   The Electrosmog meters, Cornet, Acoustimeter, etc., measure and convert
>   >   to sound the dirty air, so we can measure which electronics and
>   >   equipment are Noisy and Undesirable, or Intolerable.
>   >
>   >   The only ways to "filter the air" is by shielding, reflecting, and
>   >   absorbing the energy in the air. I wouldn't equate shielding to
>   >   filtering. Not the same thing really.
>   >
>   >   Don't forget I have one page myself, devoted to measuring electronics in
>   >   my attempts to find or make a quieter computer. Just changing the
>   >   processor speed, or changing the power supply, or any component inside
>   >   the box, can and does change the noise levels.
>   >   http://seahorseCorral.org/ehs2.html
>   >
>   >   Stewart
>   >
>   >
>   >   Patricia Robinett wrote:
>   >   > so how is dirty air made?  by dirty electricity?  
>   >   > if a filter collects the electricity
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> On February 14, Kathy Baumann [hidden email]> wrote:
> > I'm sorry, I wanted to find out what the resolutions meant in an LCD
> > monitor in relation to it's HD statis. I get confused to what the
> > differences is with 720, 1080 ratings. If it's just resolutions I am
> > beginning to understand.
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> Ahhh. Well, in terms of television:
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> 480i = 720 x 480 pixels (30 frames per second)
> 720p = 1280 x 720 pixels (60 frames per second)
> 1080i = 1980 x 1080 pixels (30 frames per second)
> 1080p = 1980 x 1080 pixels (60 frames per second)
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> However, when it comes to resolutions, there are two things to
> consider:
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> 1) the resolution of the TV
> 2) the resolution of the signal being sent to the TV
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> Now, there is nothing you can do about the resolution of the TV
> (other than buy a different TV), but sometimes you can adjust
> the resolution of the signal being sent to the TV, and sometimes
> that can make a difference.
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> The resolution of the signal can be controlled by whatever is
> sending the signal -- a cable box, a computer, a media player,
> an upscaling DVD player, a Blu-ray disc player, etc.
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> While my computer is 720p, our TV set is 1080p. However,
> I always feed it a 1080i signal, because that is easier for me
> tolerate than a 1080p signal.
>
> Marc
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> Thanks Marc - to be honest this is my  fear about the whole venture - while I would like to upgrade I am worried that I will get it home, take it out of the box and power it up only to find that I can't tolerate it ES wise and I'm not sure to what extent the shop would take it back for those reasons. Just going to have to jump and see what happens!
> Thanks
> Steph
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>  From: Marc Martin <marc@...>
> To: [hidden email]
> Sent: Thursday, 14 February 2013, 19:18
> Subject: Re: [eSens] THINK NEED TO BUY NEW PERSONAL COMPUTER - ANYTHING TO WATCH OUT FOR?
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> On February 14, Stephanie Smith reader41@...> wrote:
> > Thanks for the help Marc - I am thinking very seriously of upgrading and am looking at a model
> > with the following 20 in LED monitor - this is the blurb from the shop's site - what do you think?
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> I can never tell from descriptions if a monitor is going to be okay or not.
> I have to actually use it to know one way or another.
> Case in point -- I ordered a new monitor (Dell 24") from Amazon.com last year, and had to return it
> because it was far worse than the monitor I was using before (a 26" SONY HDTV).  And I ended up buying
> a second unit of my previous monitor on eBay, which of course was just as tolerable.
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> But for me personally, I try to buy 720p HDTV monitors (1366 x 768 resolution) with LCD
> backlighting (to me, LED lighting seems "harsh" -- probably not an ES-thing, but I still don't
> like LED lighting)
>
> Marc
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