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On February  8, Cheryl Griffing <[hidden email]> wrote:
> When I moved away from a power tower very close to my home my body had severe reactions
> to the move in many ways. Some were good - such as a cooling process. Others were not good,
> such as severe discomfort, anxiety and hyperactive thyroid returning for 3 months immediately
> after the move.

Were you taking any supplements, drugs, or eating any foods that would boost the thyroid?
If so, those would be allowing you to feel comfortable in your old house, but then when you
moved to the new house you'd have to be cut back to feel comfortable again (otherwise
you'd experience hyperthyroid symptoms like you've described)

Marc

Hi Marc,

Interesting thought on the thyroid.That's true. If somebody was taking meds for hypo thyroid caused by EMF exposure and that exposure was reduced then the thyroid could become hyper. as a result. Good point! However, I wasn't taking anything to boost the thyroid. I don't know if any foods I was eating may have had that effect as I wasn't eating anything specifically for thyroid, nor taking any supplements for it at that time.

Thanks for your response.

Cheryl

--- On Sat, 2/9/13, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] EMF Addiction?  (WAS: THINK NEED TO BUY NEW PERSONAL COMPUTER - ANYTHING TO WATCH OUT FOR?)
To: [hidden email]
Date: Saturday, February 9, 2013, 8:38 AM
















 



 


   
     
     
      On February  8, Cheryl Griffing [hidden email]> wrote:

> When I moved away from a power tower very close to my home my body had severe reactions

> to the move in many ways. Some were good - such as a cooling process. Others were not good,

> such as severe discomfort, anxiety and hyperactive thyroid returning for 3 months immediately

> after the move.



Were you taking any supplements, drugs, or eating any foods that would boost the thyroid?

If so, those would be allowing you to feel comfortable in your old house, but then when you

moved to the new house you'd have to be cut back to feel comfortable again (otherwise

you'd experience hyperthyroid symptoms like you've described)



Marc



   
     

   
   






 










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I know this effects. I had them too. It is very strange. 
I hope I can learn more about it. I more and more understand how sensitive the organism of  a human are, and its bio system is fully damaged by all the pollution - including food.
Thanks, Stefanie

--- Cheryl Griffing <[hidden email]> schrieb am Sa, 9.2.2013:

Von: Cheryl Griffing <[hidden email]>
Betreff: Re: [eSens] EMF Addiction?  (WAS: THINK NEED TO BUY NEW PERSONAL COMPUTER - ANYTHING TO WATCH OUT FOR?)
An: [hidden email]
Datum: Samstag, 9. Februar, 2013 08:08 Uhr
















 



 


   
     
     
      Hi Marc,



When I moved away from a power tower very close to my home my body had severe reactions to the move in many ways. Some were good - such as a cooling process. Others were not good, such as severe discomfort, anxiety and hyperactive thyroid returning for 3 months immediately after the move. The severe discomfort and anxiety were relieved as soon as I returned to the old house to maintain it as I not not as yet sold it.



For all practical purposes it appeared that my body was indeed going through some sort of withdrawal symptoms. I lived near the power tower for 30 years and my best guess would be that my body somehow adjusted to it, just like a body would adjust to use of drugs.Hence an addiction had occurred. I researched EMF addiction after this happened to me and there seems to be ample evidence that the body can become physiologically addicted to EMF.according to what I read.



What is your viewpoint on this? Has anybody else here experienced anything similar to this?. 



Cheryl



--- On Fri, 2/8/13, Marc Martin [hidden email]> wrote:



From: Marc Martin [hidden email]>

Subject: Re: [eSens] THINK NEED TO BUY NEW PERSONAL COMPUTER - ANYTHING TO WATCH OUT FOR?

To: [hidden email]

Date: Friday, February 8, 2013, 10:48 PM



 



On February  8, Cheryl Griffing [hidden email]> wrote:



> Is 'dirty electricity", that which is found in the power lines, the worst? Is it the most addictive, compared to the others?



It depends on the person... I think some people have a harder time



with wi-fi, smart meters, etc.



Not sure what you mean by "addictive", when it comes to power line noise... :-)



Marc



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that's interesting to me too, cheryl and marc...
for the first time in my life, when i was at my
condo with very VERY high EMF, i gained weight
for the first time in my life.  now that i am safe
again, i am losing the weight.  hmm...  
thanks, marc.  
patricia



On Feb 9, 2013, at 11:55 AM, Cheryl Griffing wrote:

> Interesting thought on the thyroid.That's true. If somebody was taking meds for hypo thyroid caused by EMF exposure and that exposure was reduced then the thyroid could become hyper. as a result. Good point! However, I wasn't taking anything to boost the thyroid. I don't know if any foods I was eating may have had that effect as I wasn't eating anything specifically for thyroid, nor taking any supplements for it at that time.

Thyroid regulates weight.It is a hugely important gland in the immune system.It is connected to: memory, emotions, heart rate, temperature control, immunity, weight, candida, and metabolism. The thyroid makes 9 hormones, and if any one of theseis even just a tiny bit low, the domino effect can be big.When they thyroid is low or stressed, this effects the adrenalglands too. This is why we see the weight gain around the middle the belly, this is cortisol over drive. Adrenals make cortisol.Emfs effect these two glands greatly.  Lizzie
 To: [hidden email]
From: [hidden email]
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 17:14:50 -0800
Subject: Re: [eSens] EMF Addiction?  (WAS: THINK NEED TO BUY NEW PERSONAL COMPUTER - ANYTHING TO WATCH OUT FOR?)
















 



 


   
     
     
      that's interesting to me too, cheryl and marc...

for the first time in my life, when i was at my

condo with very VERY high EMF, i gained weight

for the first time in my life.  now that i am safe

again, i am losing the weight.  hmm...  

thanks, marc.  

patricia



On Feb 9, 2013, at 11:55 AM, Cheryl Griffing wrote:



> Interesting thought on the thyroid.That's true. If somebody was taking meds for hypo thyroid caused by EMF exposure and that exposure was reduced then the thyroid could become hyper. as a result. Good point! However, I wasn't taking anything to boost the thyroid. I don't know if any foods I was eating may have had that effect as I wasn't eating anything specifically for thyroid, nor taking any supplements for it at that time.





   
     

   
   






       

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Hi Stefanie,

Just wondering what your experience was with this. Just thyroid or other? From where and to where did you move?

Very interested in your response.

Cheryl

--- On Sat, 2/9/13, Stefanie Toth <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Stefanie Toth <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] EMF Addiction?  (WAS: THINK NEED TO BUY NEW PERSONAL COMPUTER - ANYTHING TO WATCH OUT FOR?)
To: [hidden email]
Date: Saturday, February 9, 2013, 12:29 PM
















 



 


   
     
     
      I know this effects. I had them too. It is very strange. 

I hope I can learn more about it. I more and more understand how sensitive the organism of  a human are, and its bio system is fully damaged by all the pollution - including food.

Thanks, Stefanie



--- Cheryl Griffing [hidden email]> schrieb am Sa, 9.2.2013:



Von: Cheryl Griffing [hidden email]>

Betreff: Re: [eSens] EMF Addiction?  (WAS: THINK NEED TO BUY NEW PERSONAL COMPUTER - ANYTHING TO WATCH OUT FOR?)

An: [hidden email]

Datum: Samstag, 9. Februar, 2013 08:08 Uhr



 



Hi Marc,



When I moved away from a power tower very close to my home my body had severe reactions to the move in many ways. Some were good - such as a cooling process. Others were not good, such as severe discomfort, anxiety and hyperactive thyroid returning for 3 months immediately after the move. The severe discomfort and anxiety were relieved as soon as I returned to the old house to maintain it as I not not as yet sold it.



For all practical purposes it appeared that my body was indeed going through some sort of withdrawal symptoms. I lived near the power tower for 30 years and my best guess would be that my body somehow adjusted to it, just like a body would adjust to use of drugs.Hence an addiction had occurred. I researched EMF addiction after this happened to me and there seems to be ample evidence that the body can become physiologically addicted to EMF.according to what I read.



What is your viewpoint on this? Has anybody else here experienced anything similar to this?. 



Cheryl



--- On Fri, 2/8/13, Marc Martin [hidden email]> wrote:



From: Marc Martin [hidden email]>



Subject: Re: [eSens] THINK NEED TO BUY NEW PERSONAL COMPUTER - ANYTHING TO WATCH OUT FOR?



To: [hidden email]



Date: Friday, February 8, 2013, 10:48 PM



 



On February  8, Cheryl Griffing [hidden email]> wrote:



> Is 'dirty electricity", that which is found in the power lines, the worst? Is it the most addictive, compared to the others?



It depends on the person... I think some people have a harder time



with wi-fi, smart meters, etc.



Not sure what you mean by "addictive", when it comes to power line noise... :-)



Marc



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Same me :-) .

4 years ago when I found out about it and managed to stay most of the time outside of it, I lost in a few months over 20 pounds. I never had thought I would lose so much weight again in my life. I even did not notice as I was eating normal. Then I moved away there and got in bad places again and gained weight again too.

Stefanie


--- Patricia Robinett <[hidden email]> schrieb am So, 10.2.2013:

Von: Patricia Robinett <[hidden email]>
Betreff: Re: [eSens] EMF Addiction?  (WAS: THINK NEED TO BUY NEW PERSONAL COMPUTER - ANYTHING TO WATCH OUT FOR?)
An: [hidden email]
Datum: Sonntag, 10. Februar, 2013 02:14 Uhr
















 



 


   
     
     
      that's interesting to me too, cheryl and marc...

for the first time in my life, when i was at my

condo with very VERY high EMF, i gained weight

for the first time in my life.  now that i am safe

again, i am losing the weight.  hmm...  

thanks, marc.  

patricia



On Feb 9, 2013, at 11:55 AM, Cheryl Griffing wrote:



> Interesting thought on the thyroid.That's true. If somebody was taking meds for hypo thyroid caused by EMF exposure and that exposure was reduced then the thyroid could become hyper. as a result. Good point! However, I wasn't taking anything to boost the thyroid. I don't know if any foods I was eating may have had that effect as I wasn't eating anything specifically for thyroid, nor taking any supplements for it at that time.





   
     

   
   






 










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I never tried it. I just try to learn about it, but my life is so crazy at the moment that I have problems to study it and to try out. I have no house at the moment. I sleep in a car in a National Park. It is the only place where I can recover over night. Today I got a ticket for illegal camping. I have to move on. That's what is determining at the moment my life: to find a place where I can stay without getting sick. Then I can make studies, treatments and experiments to see it make things better for me.

Thanks, Stefanie


--- Cheryl Griffing <[hidden email]> schrieb am Di, 12.2.2013:

Von: Cheryl Griffing <[hidden email]>
Betreff: Re: [eSens] EMF Addiction?  (WAS: THINK NEED TO BUY NEW PERSONAL COMPUTER - ANYTHING TO WATCH OUT FOR?)
An: [hidden email]
Datum: Dienstag, 12. Februar, 2013 02:00 Uhr
















 



 


   
     
     
      Hi Stefanie,



Just wondering what your experience was with this. Just thyroid or other? From where and to where did you move?



Very interested in your response.



Cheryl



--- On Sat, 2/9/13, Stefanie Toth [hidden email]> wrote:



From: Stefanie Toth [hidden email]>

Subject: Re: [eSens] EMF Addiction?  (WAS: THINK NEED TO BUY NEW PERSONAL COMPUTER - ANYTHING TO WATCH OUT FOR?)

To: [hidden email]

Date: Saturday, February 9, 2013, 12:29 PM



 



I know this effects. I had them too. It is very strange. 



I hope I can learn more about it. I more and more understand how sensitive the organism of  a human are, and its bio system is fully damaged by all the pollution - including food.



Thanks, Stefanie



--- Cheryl Griffing [hidden email]> schrieb am Sa, 9.2.2013:



Von: Cheryl Griffing [hidden email]>



Betreff: Re: [eSens] EMF Addiction?  (WAS: THINK NEED TO BUY NEW PERSONAL COMPUTER - ANYTHING TO WATCH OUT FOR?)



An: [hidden email]



Datum: Samstag, 9. Februar, 2013 08:08 Uhr



 



Hi Marc,



When I moved away from a power tower very close to my home my body had severe reactions to the move in many ways. Some were good - such as a cooling process. Others were not good, such as severe discomfort, anxiety and hyperactive thyroid returning for 3 months immediately after the move. The severe discomfort and anxiety were relieved as soon as I returned to the old house to maintain it as I not not as yet sold it.



For all practical purposes it appeared that my body was indeed going through some sort of withdrawal symptoms. I lived near the power tower for 30 years and my best guess would be that my body somehow adjusted to it, just like a body would adjust to use of drugs.Hence an addiction had occurred. I researched EMF addiction after this happened to me and there seems to be ample evidence that the body can become physiologically addicted to EMF.according to what I read.



What is your viewpoint on this? Has anybody else here experienced anything similar to this?. 



Cheryl



--- On Fri, 2/8/13, Marc Martin [hidden email]> wrote:



From: Marc Martin [hidden email]>



Subject: Re: [eSens] THINK NEED TO BUY NEW PERSONAL COMPUTER - ANYTHING TO WATCH OUT FOR?



To: [hidden email]



Date: Friday, February 8, 2013, 10:48 PM



 



On February  8, Cheryl Griffing [hidden email]> wrote:



> Is 'dirty electricity", that which is found in the power lines, the worst? Is it the most addictive, compared to the others?



It depends on the person... I think some people have a harder time



with wi-fi, smart meters, etc.



Not sure what you mean by "addictive", when it comes to power line noise... :-)



Marc



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When thyroid is low, weight gain is common.When adrenals are low, weight loss is common. As the adrenal glands are sometimes referred toas the rottweillers or Guardians of the immune system,when weight drops severely, attention to adrenalsis highly suggested. Blessings,Lizzie
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From: [hidden email]
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 19:41:30 +0000
Subject: Re: [eSens] EMF Addiction?  (WAS: THINK NEED TO BUY NEW PERSONAL COMPUTER - ANYTHING TO WATCH OUT FOR?)
















 



 


   
     
     
      Same me :-) .



4 years ago when I found out about it and managed to stay most of the time outside of it, I lost in a few months over 20 pounds. I never had thought I would lose so much weight again in my life. I even did not notice as I was eating normal. Then I moved away there and got in bad places again and gained weight again too.



Stefanie



--- Patricia Robinett [hidden email]> schrieb am So, 10.2.2013:



Von: Patricia Robinett [hidden email]>

Betreff: Re: [eSens] EMF Addiction?  (WAS: THINK NEED TO BUY NEW PERSONAL COMPUTER - ANYTHING TO WATCH OUT FOR?)

An: [hidden email]

Datum: Sonntag, 10. Februar, 2013 02:14 Uhr



 



that's interesting to me too, cheryl and marc...



for the first time in my life, when i was at my



condo with very VERY high EMF, i gained weight



for the first time in my life.  now that i am safe



again, i am losing the weight.  hmm...  



thanks, marc.  



patricia



On Feb 9, 2013, at 11:55 AM, Cheryl Griffing wrote:



> Interesting thought on the thyroid.That's true. If somebody was taking meds for hypo thyroid caused by EMF exposure and that exposure was reduced then the thyroid could become hyper. as a result. Good point! However, I wasn't taking anything to boost the thyroid. I don't know if any foods I was eating may have had that effect as I wasn't eating anything specifically for thyroid, nor taking any supplements for it at that time.



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Thanks for this Marc - do you know can you change the LCD backlight setting or is this something which is fixed when the monitor comes out of the factory? And for a total tech innocent like myself can you explain a bit more about video refresh rates and resolution since if it is possible to modify these then it might make it easier for me to use the computer - symptom wise

Thanks
Steph


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 From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Thursday, 7 February 2013, 18:11
Subject: Re: [eSens] THINK NEED TO BUY NEW PERSONAL COMPUTER - ANYTHING TO WATCH OUT FOR?
 

 
On February  7, Stephanie Smith [hidden email]> wrote:
> Hi Patricia and Stewart
> This reply of Stewart's was very illuminating for me at least - since it is likely my PC's processor that I react to 

With computers, I've long suspected that it is the video card and/or the video signal being
fed to the monitor that is the main problem.  I say that because I can observe a huge
difference in symptoms with different video refresh rates & resolution, even though the
PC and monitor remain otherwise the same.

Also, the monitor LCD backlight setting makes a big difference.

I have never found any compelling evidence to suspect the PC's CPU as being a major
contributor to my symptoms.

Marc

 

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Hi Marc

I hear what you are saying re the industry in general but my interest is as a consumer and my feel is that for the consumer the market for PCs could shrink markedly in the future if not fail to exist as the aim nowadays seems to be to do everything via an app etc so that is what is making me think if I am going to upgrade I should do it now while there are still pcs around to upgrade to

Steph


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 From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Thursday, 7 February 2013, 17:27
Subject: Re: [eSens] THINK NEED TO BUY NEW PERSONAL COMPUTER - ANYTHING TO WATCH OUT FOR?
 

 
On February  7, Stephanie Smith [hidden email]> wrote:
> but my feel is that PCs are going to soon go the way of analogue TVs and landlines -
> they will be obsolete by virtue of smartphones and tablets

Certainly a lot of consumers can get by with tablets and smart phones instead
of a laptop or desktop PC, however, most businesses still use PCs, and there
are no plans to change that.  Also, people who develop software, websites, etc.
are not going to do that on a tablet or smartphone.  Plus, most of the Internet
is hosted on PCs.  So PCs are here to stay (although I agree that consumer
sales will fall off)

Marc

 

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On February 14, Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I hear what you are saying re the industry in general but my interest
> is as a consumer and my feel is that for the consumer

Well, it's pretty easy for a consumer to buy a "business PC".  In
fact, that's all we've got around our home is business PCs, as I
find them to be more tolerable than consumer models.

Marc

On February 14, Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Thanks for this Marc - do you know can you change the LCD backlight setting or
> is this something which is fixed when the monitor comes out of the factory?

I think it depends on the monitor -- all of the LCD monitors we've got around
here (including the laptops) have adjustable backlights.  For the monitors, it's
just one of those things in the menus/settings.  On the laptops, there are
brightness buttons on the keyboard.

> And for a total tech innocent like myself can you explain a bit more about
> video refresh rates and resolution since if it is possible to modify these then
> it might make it easier for me to use the computer - symptom wise

The output resolution of the computer is set by one of the operating system
control panels.  For example, in Windows 7 it's at start->control panel->display->
adjust resolution.  The refresh rate is also in the display control panel, but
under "advanced settings" (usually this is just 60hz).

Marc

Thanks for the help Marc - I am thinking very seriously of upgrading and am looking at a model with the following 20 in LED monitor - this is the blurb from the shop's site - what do you think????do you know this model [AOC e2050s]?

Slick screenplay

With a 1600 x 900 resolution, the AOC e2050S offers excellent playback with a 170/160° viewing angle, immersing everyone in the room rather than having to face it head on.

Thanks to a 5ms response time and 200 cd/m2 brightness you are guaranteed impressive picture quality as your monitor compliments games, videos and general computer activity.

Secure & save

Enjoy money saving thanks to the AOC e2050S's backlit display, ensuring that less power is consumed with an 18-watt maximum usage.

Thanks
Steph





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 From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Thursday, 14 February 2013, 14:48
Subject: Re: [eSens] THINK NEED TO BUY NEW PERSONAL COMPUTER - ANYTHING TO WATCH OUT FOR?
 

 
On February 14, Stephanie Smith [hidden email]> wrote:
> Thanks for this Marc - do you know can you change the LCD backlight setting or
> is this something which is fixed when the monitor comes out of the factory?

I think it depends on the monitor -- all of the LCD monitors we've got around
here (including the laptops) have adjustable backlights.  For the monitors, it's
just one of those things in the menus/settings.  On the laptops, there are
brightness buttons on the keyboard.

> And for a total tech innocent like myself can you explain a bit more about
> video refresh rates and resolution since if it is possible to modify these then
> it might make it easier for me to use the computer - symptom wise

The output resolution of the computer is set by one of the operating system
control panels.  For example, in Windows 7 it's at start->control panel->display->
adjust resolution.  The refresh rate is also in the display control panel, but
under "advanced settings" (usually this is just 60hz).

Marc

 

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hello Charles,

I know you are an absolute expert on emf-issues, having read quite some "bitjes".
I have a Gigahertz ME 3030B ELF-meter but it doesn't measures much in its range upto 10 kHz even at the surface of my external monitor, at least since it is earthed ( that makes the hell of a difference ... ).
Now my question is, will upgrading to a Gigahertz ME3830B ( or actually the ME3851A looks more attractive to me, both measure upto upto 100 kHz ) be sufficient to detect the in general ( that is : for the majority of us ) most significant EMF from monitors ?
The Spectran NF-5030 is of course a greater tool but rather expensive and seems to need a lot of study and attention in order to use it properly.
And another question, now you mention other meters, i have also two other cheap ones, a Cornet ED65 and a MW1 Electrosmog Detector, and think that the first one is ( only ) useful from 800 Mhz onwards ( it appears to work wonderful ) and the other good enough to warn against TETRA as well, is this correct ?
Right when the MW1 just starts detecting a DECT-phone, the Cornet indicates 5.0 microWatt/m2, good enough for me to get an impression of what's going on in the area, but this is not at 400 Mhz.
Btw, what helps me the most seems to simply switch off the main electricity at night, i isolated the fridge better so there is no problem with that.
Thanks in advance for any response.

--- In [hidden email], "charles"  wrote:

Hello,

the question is what do you want to measure?
And what do you want to know about that?

I have all meters from Gigahertz.
The ME 3951A has built-in filters and goes up to 400kHz, but it must be grounded.
And because one cannot mount a probe or antenna, it is difficult to measure something.

I still prefer a Spectran NF5030, with a memory expansion of 20MHz.
(And connected to a PC or laptop.)

With a special detector, which can measure from 5 - 30kHz and from 30kHz -150kHz, I had checked an Acer 26" monitor, which looked at that moment good.
At home I checked with my Spectran NF, and found large high peaks around 4500kHz or 4,5MHz.
The spectran works without grounding.

I do not like the Electrosmog Detector, becaus it starts measuring at a too high level, and gives electrosensitives a false sense of safety.

For *dirty power* I also use this Spectran NF together with a differential probe for looking into our 220V mains.
But there is also, besides the Stetzerizer meter which goed only to 150kHz, this Entech detector, made by Alphalabs. It has a built-in speaker, which lets you hear the local radiostation. This meter goes up to 800kHz.
Mine comes from e-bay.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
checked by Emsisoft

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  To: [hidden email]
  Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 6:37 PM
  Subject: [eSens] Re: THINK NEED TO BUY NEW PERSONAL COMPUTER - ANYTHING TO WATCH OUT FOR?


  hello Charles,

  I know you are an absolute expert on emf-issues, having read quite some "bitjes".
  I have a Gigahertz ME 3030B ELF-meter but it doesn't measures much in its range upto 10 kHz even at the surface of my external monitor, at least since it is earthed ( that makes the hell of a difference ... ).
  Now my question is, will upgrading to a Gigahertz ME3830B ( or actually the ME3851A looks more attractive to me, both measure upto upto 100 kHz ) be sufficient to detect the in general ( that is : for the majority of us ) most significant EMF from monitors ?
  The Spectran NF-5030 is of course a greater tool but rather expensive and seems to need a lot of study and attention in order to use it properly.
  And another question, now you mention other meters, i have also two other cheap ones, a Cornet ED65 and a MW1 Electrosmog Detector, and think that the first one is ( only ) useful from 800 Mhz onwards ( it appears to work wonderful ) and the other good enough to warn against TETRA as well, is this correct ?
  Right when the MW1 just starts detecting a DECT-phone, the Cornet indicates 5.0 microWatt/m2, good enough for me to get an impression of what's going on in the area, but this is not at 400 Mhz.
  Btw, what helps me the most seems to simply switch off the main electricity at night, i isolated the fridge better so there is no problem with that.
  Thanks in advance for any response.

  --- In [hidden email], "charles"  wrote:
  >
  > Hello Stewart,
  >
  > The Electrosmog meters, Cornet, Acoustimeter, etc., are NOT capable to measure what I call *dirty air*, because they cannot measure from 5kHz to 30MHz, and they lack the antennas for it.
  >
  > Greetings,
  > Charles Claessens
  > www.milieuziektes.nl
  > www.milieuziektes.be
  > www.hetbitje.nl
  > checked by Emsisoft
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >
  > ----- Original Message -----
  >   From: S Andreason
  >   To: [hidden email]
  >   Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 3:14 AM
  >   Subject: Re: [eSens] THINK NEED TO BUY NEW PERSONAL COMPUTER - ANYTHING TO WATCH OUT FOR?
  >
  >
  >   Hi Patricia,
  >
  >   "Dirty air" is another way to describe electrosmog. Anything wireless
  >   makes dirty air, but noisy electronics are the issue here being discussed.
  >   Any collection of electronics that are poorly designed or engineered, do
  >   "Leak" or emit electromagnetic noise, which is what we measure and hear
  >   with RF Meters. Any computer processor running at a high frequency will
  >   by it's very operation make noise. The only question of relevance, is
  >   how much, and how strong. ie. is it tolerable, and how much distance is
  >   needed to keep away from it.
  >
  >   The Electrosmog meters, Cornet, Acoustimeter, etc., measure and convert
  >   to sound the dirty air, so we can measure which electronics and
  >   equipment are Noisy and Undesirable, or Intolerable.
  >
  >   The only ways to "filter the air" is by shielding, reflecting, and
  >   absorbing the energy in the air. I wouldn't equate shielding to
  >   filtering. Not the same thing really.
  >
  >   Don't forget I have one page myself, devoted to measuring electronics in
  >   my attempts to find or make a quieter computer. Just changing the
  >   processor speed, or changing the power supply, or any component inside
  >   the box, can and does change the noise levels.
  >   http://seahorseCorral.org/ehs2.html
  >
  >   Stewart
  >
  >
  >   Patricia Robinett wrote:
  >   > so how is dirty air made?  by dirty electricity?  
  >   > if a filter collects the electricity
  >   >
  >   >  
  >
  >   --
  >   http://seahorseCorral.org
  >
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On February 14, Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Thanks for the help Marc - I am thinking very seriously of upgrading and am looking at a model
> with the following 20 in LED monitor - this is the blurb from the shop's site - what do you think?

I can never tell from descriptions if a monitor is going to be okay or not.
I have to actually use it to know one way or another.
Case in point -- I ordered a new monitor (Dell 24") from Amazon.com last year, and had to return it
because it was far worse than the monitor I was using before (a 26" SONY HDTV).  And I ended up buying
a second unit of my previous monitor on eBay, which of course was just as tolerable.

But for me personally, I try to buy 720p HDTV monitors (1366 x 768 resolution) with LCD
backlighting (to me, LED lighting seems "harsh" -- probably not an ES-thing, but I still don't
like LED lighting)

Marc

Where can you find on an LCD computer monitor you already own the 720p
label. Or is it in the settings? Forgive my ignorance on this subject.

Kathy

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On February 14, Kathy Baumann <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Where can you find on an LCD computer monitor you already own the 720p
> label. Or is it in the settings? Forgive my ignorance on this subject.

I don't think I understand the question?

You can find a computer monitor that you already own on eBay (or Craigslist
in the USA).  Although you don't see many of the one I have on eBay...
it took awhile to find one.

As for "720p", that is merely indicative of the resolution of an HDTV set
(1280 x 720,although many LCD panels are actually 1366 x 768).  The other
common HDTV resolution is "1080p" (1920 x 1080 pixels), which may be
harder to tolerate.

Marc

Marc,

I'm sorry, I wanted to find out what the resolutions meant in an LCD
monitor in relation to it's HD statis.  I get confused to what the
differences is with 720, 1080 ratings. If it's just resolutions I am
beginning to understand.


Kathy

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