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Healthgal
I'm thinking of getting a smart phone. My present cell is  ancient.  Are
there those that are more user friendly to people with  EHS?  I think I've
read that the iphone is not good. What about an  Android?Don't need all the
bells and whistles or the newest high   power phone  but do want a data
package. .     Metro  PCS, anyone using this prepaid phone service?
 
 
Thanks for any information you can give me.
 
Hope everyone had a wonderful Thanksgiving.
 
 
Estelle

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Marc Martin
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On November 22, [hidden email] wrote:
> I'm thinking of getting a smart phone. My present cell is  ancient.  Are
> there those that are more user friendly to people with  EHS?  I think I've
> read that the iphone is not good. What about an  Android?Don't need all the
> bells and whistles or the newest high   power phone  but do want a data
> package. .     Metro  PCS, anyone using this prepaid phone service?

Well, there's not a lot of people here with much experience with Smart
Phones, as they seem to be generally intolerable for people with ES.  
There have been a few comments here about Android possibly not
being as bad as iPhones, and I'd say that probably a 3G phone would
be better than a 4G phone... (?)

Marc
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Healthgal
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Marc,
 
I was talking about possibly and android and  definitely  not a 4G but a
3G.  I'm wondering if anyone  has an android, 3G who  can tolerate it.  
 
 
Estelle

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Aimee-2
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I have an iphone 3gs although I don't know if a person can even get them any longer.  I had some trouble at first with it so I kept it away from me.  Its 2 years old now and I have no problem.  I don't use it for data much anyway.  I only got it because it was free with contract of course.
 
My husband who has a pacemaker had to return his because it did a number on his health.  If you can get a refurbished one , it would be alot easier on your system in my opinion.
 
Aimee

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From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Smart Phone
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, November 22, 2012, 9:32 PM


On November 22, [hidden email] wrote:
> I'm thinking of getting a smart phone. My present cell is  ancient.  Are
> there those that are more user friendly to people with  EHS?  I think I've
> read that the iphone is not good. What about an  Android?Don't need all the
> bells and whistles or the newest high   power phone  but do want a data
> package. .     Metro  PCS, anyone using this prepaid phone service?

Well, there's not a lot of people here with much experience with Smart
Phones, as they seem to be generally intolerable for people with ES. 
There have been a few comments here about Android possibly not
being as bad as iPhones, and I'd say that probably a 3G phone would
be better than a 4G phone... (?)

Marc


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Patricia
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cell phones...
they all make my skin crawl...
major leg and hand
cramps when they are near...
headaches... or at least should i say,
head pains... a man was walking
toward me at the post office the
other day while calling someone or
'texting' - and it felt like he'd shot
me with a ray gun.  those phones
are not my friends.  now i am more
clear why i had a box of cell phones
i bought but quickly discarded through
the years.  i couldn't stand to use
them.  and now that even goes for
land lines.  phones hurt my head.  
when i measure the EMF with a meter,
it's just as high in any receiver -
cell or regular phone - and also in
headphones.  we are killing ourselves.  
maybe they will figure out a better
technology soon.  they ARE so
CONVENIENT and HELPFUL...
too bad they have to be so toxic.  :(  
love, patricia


On Nov 22, 2012, at 9:31 PM, [hidden email] wrote:

> Marc,
>
> I was talking about possibly and android and definitely not a 4G but a
> 3G. I'm wondering if anyone has an android, 3G who can tolerate it.
>
>
> Estelle
>


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PUK
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HTC DESIRE SEEMED OK
 
PUK
 
 
In a message dated 23/11/2012 07:25:45 GMT Standard Time, [hidden email]  
writes:

 
 
 
Marc,

I was talking about possibly and android and definitely not a  4G but a
3G. I'm wondering if anyone has an android, 3G who can tolerate  it.


Estelle

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Tryingtoheal
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Estelle,

I recommend the new video by Dr. Devra Davis and scientists on new
research.

*http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnn6gNyRU7g
*
She continues to offer a $5000 reward for anyone proving a cell phone is
safe.

Smart phones are the most offensive, A repairman was standing by me. My
meter
measured 1.012 Ghz. I felt sensations, followed by burning.
I can't imagine using one period.

Kathy

On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 8:35 PM, <[hidden email]> wrote:

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>
>
> I'm thinking of getting a smart phone. My present cell is ancient. Are
> there those that are more user friendly to people with EHS? I think I've
> read that the iphone is not good. What about an Android?Don't need all the
> bells and whistles or the newest high power phone but do want a data
> package. . Metro PCS, anyone using this prepaid phone service?
>
>
> Thanks for any information you can give me.
>
> Hope everyone had a wonderful Thanksgiving.
>
>
> Estelle
>
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>  
>


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S Andreason
Kathy Baumann wrote:
> A repairman was standing by me. My meter
> measured 1.012 Ghz.
Gigahertz is a frequency.
I believe you meant to say, 1.012 milliWatts per square meter. (mW/m2)
which is a field strength or power density.

Think of singing,
Frequency = pitch (or the notes across the octaves)
and power density/strength = volume.

Stewart


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Tryingtoheal
Yes, I did mean 1.012 milliWatts per square meter.

I'm sorry. Kathy

On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 10:55 AM, S Andreason <[hidden email]> wrote:

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>
>
> Kathy Baumann wrote:
> > A repairman was standing by me. My meter
> > measured 1.012 Ghz.
> Gigahertz is a frequency.
> I believe you meant to say, 1.012 milliWatts per square meter. (mW/m2)
> which is a field strength or power density.
>
> Think of singing,
> Frequency = pitch (or the notes across the octaves)
> and power density/strength = volume.
>
> Stewart
>
>  
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hanskleinert
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Smart Phones are stronger in their radiation. If you have to have one, I
would suggest getting an EMF Transformer www.emf-transformer.com

The moment when I put it on, I felt groundet (I use an IPHONE4). Actually
this rduces SAR about 35% and through healing and brainstabilizing subtle
energies,makes any cell phone more to a healing devise.

I am furtunat to turn my cell off, when no need, but through the EMF
Transformer it is not at all fealable like before when I use it.

I also put the larger version on my computer, next to it I felt always
numbing

afer 15 Minutes before, now I am not feeling it at all.
There are at least and finally alternatives.

EMF transformer I hearrd, was researched at the SAR lab in SanDiego and
prooved to deliver; further more the inventor, Dr. Kronn (a former russian
radio-physicist, is one of the scientist who are not corruped by pride and
greed, still remaining humble and honest..

 



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Marc Martin
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On November 24, Hans Kleinert <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Smart Phones are stronger in their radiation. If you have to have one, I
> would suggest getting an EMF Transformer www.emf-transformer.com
>
> The moment when I put it on, I felt groundet (I use an IPHONE4). Actually
> this rduces SAR about 35% and through healing and brainstabilizing subtle
> energies,makes any cell phone more to a healing devise.

Thanks for your testimonial, Hans.  You should probably add that you
are the head of Marketing & Sales for that company.  People seem to like
to know that sort of information when assessing testimonials... :-)

Marc
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hanskleinert
Marc Martin wrote
On November 24, Hans Kleinert <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Smart Phones are stronger in their radiation. If you have to have one, I
> would suggest getting an EMF Transformer www.emf-transformer.com
>
> The moment when I put it on, I felt grounded (I use an IPHONE4). Actually
> this rduces SAR about 35% and through healing and brainstabilizing subtle
> energies,makes any cell phone more to a healing devise.

Thanks for your testimonial, Hans.  You should probably add that you
are the head of Marketing & Sales for that company.  People seem to like
to know that sort of information when assessing testimonials... :-)

Marc
Thanks Marc, Yes, correct and will do that next time. I have responded spontaneously without thinking about the implications and the etiquette. I know Dr. Yury since 2005 and I respect his work and dedication very much. I am in the healing profession since over 30 years and because his products are of high integrity, I am having a shop to provide to friends and clients  to ease the ordering process. Anyhow, Thanks for your welcome. I want to be part of this community because the subject is for me of utmost.
importance. Hans
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Healthgal
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Does this mean if I get a transformer for a cell phone, I can  use any cell
with little or no repercussions?   If so I'm buying one  now.  Please
advise.
 
 
Estelle
 
I've also looked at the HTC phone that someone recommended  earlier.  

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Marc Martin
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On November 25, [hidden email] wrote:
> Does this mean if I get a transformer for a cell phone, I can  use any cell
> with little or no repercussions?   If so I'm buying one  now.  Please
> advise.

I've never tried that particular item, but I certainly have had experience
with MANY other items that are advertised with similar claims.  

I have never run across any of these that has eliminated all adverse
symptoms of a truly obnoxious piece of electronics.  Some items will
make things more tolerable, like 10%, or 20%, maybe 50% at best,
but that's about it.  Many seem to make no difference at all (and in
some cases, make things worse!)

Marc

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PUK
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a phone jammer works quite nicely on the satisfaction level but of course  
you get fried by them at the same time, still on the odd ocassion its worth  
it.
 
 
In a message dated 25/11/2012 20:22:19 GMT Standard Time,  
[hidden email] writes:

 
 
 
On November 25, _e4health@aol.com_ (mailto:[hidden email])  wrote:
> Does this  mean if I get a transformer for a cell phone, I can use any
cell
> with  little or no repercussions? If so I'm buying one now. Please
>  advise.

I've never tried that particular item, but I certainly have had  experience
with MANY other items that are advertised with similar claims.  

I have never run across any of these that has eliminated all adverse  
symptoms of a truly obnoxious piece of electronics. Some items  will
make things more tolerable, like 10%, or 20%, maybe 50% at  best,
but that's about it. Many seem to make no difference at all (and  in
some cases, make things worse!)

Marc






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Marc Martin
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On November 25, [hidden email] wrote:
> a phone jammer works quite nicely on the satisfaction level but of course  
> you get fried by them at the same time, still on the odd ocassion its worth  
> it.

And phone jammers are probably illegal in many places...

Marc
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hanskleinert
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Dear Friends, I do know that there is a lot of sales hype out there and it took many years of honest research to find trust for myself. But me expressing my trust, that it is true, does not mean anything to you, I know.

I have seen a video clip which describes the problems and a solution for EMF sensitivity described by a doctor, who works since about 15 years with Dr. Kronn s products and belongs to one of the testers for said technology which is able to create Chi signatures. Inventor is Yury Kronn, who came together with Solschenitzin to the US, trained as a radio-physicist at the Gorky University in Moscow; he offered already in the eighties his understanding to cancer research clinics in Huston Texas. They run tests at this time with astonishing results at a lab, but he never heard from them anymore, the mind could not admit, that a powerful solution could arise from something which is not measurable. This ‘what is not measurable’  is Chi, on which Chinese Medicine is based. It is able to reduce halve time of plutonium and as Dr. Kronn now has proven, can change the Electromagnetic Energy. Since then also mainstream science has opened their mind and his recent research studies at a cancer lab at the UC San Diego showed, that Chi can really make the difference. Also his EMF Transformers were researched during 1.5 years at a lab in San Diego, a SAR laboratory; the personnel had to testify the findings that the SAR was reduced by 35% but without knowing of how this can be. The “how’, working with Chi is a very difficult question to ask. But the results are measurable and repeatable!!!

Well, better I stop writing and let you see the video clip. Dr. Davis, who created the video, is a very respectable and successful country doctor in northern California.

With no further eddo, Dr. Davis http://youtu.be/NUQcfrMUzJY

 

From: Marc Martin [via eSens] [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2012 9:23 PM
To: hanskleinert
Subject: Re: Smart Phone

 

On November 25, [hidden email] wrote:
> Does this mean if I get a transformer for a cell phone, I can  use any cell
> with little or no repercussions?   If so I'm buying one  now.  Please
> advise.

I've never tried that particular item, but I certainly have had experience
with MANY other items that are advertised with similar claims.  

I have never run across any of these that has eliminated all adverse
symptoms of a truly obnoxious piece of electronics.  Some items will
make things more tolerable, like 10%, or 20%, maybe 50% at best,
but that's about it.  Many seem to make no difference at all (and in
some cases, make things worse!)

Marc



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Marc Martin
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On November 26, hanskleinert <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Also his EMF Transformers were researched during 1.5 years at a
> lab in San Diego, a SAR laboratory; the personnel had to testify the
> findings that the SAR was reduced by 35%

Yes, I have other EMF protection devices that I'd guess would
reduce my symptoms by 10% - 40%, so a 35% reduction would
be consistent with that.

However, many people on this particular group probably need
more than 35% reduction to make a Smart Phone "tolerable"!

Marc
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hanskleinert

Thanks for your pointers, yes, I agree, 100 % would be the Best, but don’t forget that this is the first time that actually EMF is altered and 35% as a beginning is not too bad.! Dr. Yury certainly is working to further the development.

What is at least as important as reducing EMF is reducing the damaging effect done by EMF.

A weak system cannot hold up nor deal with radiation at all so if we strengthen the system, it can easier cope with the impact.

The chip contains subtle energies (CHI) which protects the mobile phone user by maintaining the dynamic equilibrium of the brain waves while you are talking, listening or in close proximity to your cell phone or wireless devices.

It helps to compensate for the "jamming" effect of the ‘energetic viruses’ on the energetic system of the body and produces a healing and regulating effect on the brain’s electrical system.

I experienced exactly that: In a space full of dirty energy of 2 laptops, Wi-Fi, TV and 50+ smart meters around the corner, I had the chip lying around for a week disconnected from the phone, no change, the moment I pasted it on the back of the IPhone I could feel immediately a shift in my energy and felt grounded. Then I decided to bringing this technology in the world. I am 62, EMF sensitive and energy healer of lifelong practice.

 

 

From: Marc Martin [via eSens] [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 8:55 PM
To: hanskleinert
Subject: RE: Smart Phone

 

On November 26, hanskleinert <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Also his EMF Transformers were researched during 1.5 years at a
> lab in San Diego, a SAR laboratory; the personnel had to testify the
> findings that the SAR was reduced by 35%

Yes, I have other EMF protection devices that I'd guess would
reduce my symptoms by 10% - 40%, so a 35% reduction would
be consistent with that.

However, many people on this particular group probably need
more than 35% reduction to make a Smart Phone "tolerable"!

Marc


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PUK
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many of the devices are also aimed at the worried well who could not  
discern the radiation levels, not the electrosensitive,
 
puk
 
 
In a message dated 26/11/2012 19:55:21 GMT Standard Time,  
[hidden email] writes:

 
 
 
On November 26, hanskleinert <_h.kleinert@manaste.com_
(mailto:[hidden email]) >  wrote:
> Also his EMF Transformers were researched during 1.5 years at  a
> lab in San Diego, a SAR laboratory; the personnel had to testify  the
> findings that the SAR was reduced by 35%

Yes, I have other  EMF protection devices that I'd guess would
reduce my symptoms by 10% -  40%, so a 35% reduction would
be consistent with that.

However, many  people on this particular group probably need
more than 35% reduction to  make a Smart Phone "tolerable"!

Marc





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