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Most of us feel ill if held a phone in the on position. Not even
making a call on it. We know this is due to the level of frequencies omitted w 4 G. I can't imagine this device cutting that down enough to be able to tolerate a smart phone. We know more than the ordinary person, that it constantly communicates w towers transferring that RF radiation to the user, and those standing near w/n a certain amount of feet. . The other issues are the many apps that constantly update. Then the most important issues, is allowing RF inside the brain that literally cooks it. Beyond my sensitivity, I would not risk brain cancer, at this point. The only way I would carry a phone, is get a pay as you go, that is lower in the 2.5 or 3G range & keep it turned off Smart phones have bells & whistles I don't need in my life. Kathy On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 3:33 AM, hanskleinert <[hidden email]>wrote: > ** > > > Thanks for your pointers, yes, I agree, 100 % would be the Best, but don't > forget that this is the first time that actually EMF is altered and 35% as > a > beginning is not too bad.! Dr. Yury certainly is working to further the > development. > > What is at least as important as reducing EMF is reducing the damaging > effect done by EMF. > > A weak system cannot hold up nor deal with radiation at all so if we > strengthen the system, it can easier cope with the impact. > > The chip contains subtle energies (CHI) which protects the mobile phone > user > by maintaining the dynamic equilibrium of the brain waves while you are > talking, listening or in close proximity to your cell phone or wireless > devices. > > It helps to compensate for the "jamming" effect of the 'energetic viruses' > on the energetic system of the body and produces a healing and regulating > effect on the brain's electrical system. > > I experienced exactly that: In a space full of dirty energy of 2 laptops, > Wi-Fi, TV and 50+ smart meters around the corner, I had the chip lying > around for a week disconnected from the phone, no change, the moment I > pasted it on the back of the IPhone I could feel immediately a shift in my > energy and felt grounded. Then I decided to bringing this technology in the > world. I am 62, EMF sensitive and energy healer of lifelong practice. > > From: Marc Martin [via eSens] > [mailto:[hidden email]] > Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 8:55 PM > To: hanskleinert > Subject: RE: Smart Phone > > On November 26, hanskleinert <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Also his EMF Transformers were researched during 1.5 years at a > > lab in San Diego, a SAR laboratory; the personnel had to testify the > > findings that the SAR was reduced by 35% > > Yes, I have other EMF protection devices that I'd guess would > reduce my symptoms by 10% - 40%, so a 35% reduction would > be consistent with that. > > However, many people on this particular group probably need > more than 35% reduction to make a Smart Phone "tolerable"! > > Marc > > _____ > > If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion > below: > > http://esens.966376.n3.nabble.com/Smart-Phone-tp4023982p4024017.html > > To start a new topic under eSens, email > [hidden email] > To unsubscribe from Smart Phone, click here > < > http://esens.966376.n3.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=unsubscrib > > e_by_code&node=4023982&code=aC5rbGVpbmVydEBtYW5hc3RlLmNvbXw0MDIzOTgyfC0xODMw > MjY1MzA0> . > > < > http://esens.966376.n3.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=macro_view > > er&id=instant_html%21nabble%3Aemail.naml&base=nabble.naml.namespaces.BasicNa > > mespace-nabble.view.web.template.NabbleNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.No > > deNamespace&breadcrumbs=notify_subscribers%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-instant_ema > ils%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-send_instant_email%21nabble%3Aemail.naml> NAML > > -- > View this message in context: > http://esens.966376.n3.nabble.com/Smart-Phone-tp4023982p4024018.html > Sent from the eSens mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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On November 27, hanskleinert <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Thanks for your pointers, yes, I agree, 100 % would be the Best, but don't > forget that this is the first time that actually EMF is altered and 35% as a > beginning is not too bad.! Well, maybe this is the first time as far as you know, but I think people have been altering EMF for decades using a variety of means. I think the Springlife Polarizers (first produced in the late 1950's) were probably the best "Chi" generators I've ever encountered, and I've noticed that they are pretty good for cellphones. Unfortunately, I don't believe these are manufactured any more. Marc |
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Oh, yes, I can see your point and yes, correct. I meant scientifically proven to alter electromagnetic frequency. But fact is that ‘Chi’ is providing the means and when we can harness it very specific, we can get the results we seek. If you would be open to read the Certificate, I could let you read it. Prof J. Jones (professor for radiology) from the Irvine University was also part of the research. Dr. Kronn and Prof. Jones did work before together, I remember a research conducted over a period of 10 years, finding that dirty energy reduces the self-healing power of human cells to 0% - very interestingly- when 10 prana healers over a period of 4 month cleared a dirty laboratory, the resurrection/rejuvenation power increased from 0 % in a dirty environment to 87 % in a cleaned lab. It showed scientifically, how much the impact of our dirty environment is and based on that gave ground for developing solutions, which works within seconds. I belief Marc, that these challenges we live in, can bring the solutions also, when we are open and look with the totally of our hearts and not with our greedy mind From: Marc Martin [via eSens] [mailto:[hidden email]] On November 27, hanskleinert <[hidden email]> wrote: If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below: http://esens.966376.n3.nabble.com/Smart-Phone-tp4023982p4024022.html To start a new topic under eSens, email [hidden email] |
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Can someone give me an explanation of "dirty energy"? And an example if
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On November 27, [hidden email] wrote:
> Can someone give me an explanation of "dirty energy"? And an example if > possible. In a perfect world, the power lines would deliver exactly what they are supposed to be delivering -- with the proper wave form and frequency (50 hz or 60 hz, depending on where you live). However, due to a variety of factors, the electricity that is coming out of your outlets is NOT perfect. It has noise on top of what's supposed to be there. That noise may be caused by all sorts of things -- your appliances may pollute the electrical lines, wireless frequencies in the air may "ride" along the electrical lines, etc. The end result is "dirty electricity". Marc |
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My understanding is: everything is energy and is vibrating in certain levels; there are life enhancing levels and life weakening levels or positive and negative. Dirty means negative or life weakening: that can be emotions, thought fields, EMF radiation and any energetic pollution. The research I mentioned were conducted in a normal laboratory and later one in ones in which animals were used for testing, the dirty energy was quite high. I have encountered dirty energy a lot in my healing practice when clients released that part of them which is called stress, leaving that portion in the office. Any healing professional will recognize that, feeling tied and weak after a while. It is very thick in hospitals with all the Wi-Fi and emf, emotions and closed hearts, but actually in any place, in which humans meet and work. From: e4health [via eSens] [mailto:[hidden email]] Can someone give me an explanation of "dirty energy"? And an example if If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below: http://esens.966376.n3.nabble.com/Smart-Phone-tp4023982p4024024.html To start a new topic under eSens, email [hidden email] |
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Thank you so much for this clear explanation. I completely understand
now. Estelle [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Estelle If we stick to the more scientific end of this rather than
wandering into the spiritual/healing realms a good explanation for dirty power (if thats what you mean as opposed to dirty energy) can be found on magda havas.com puk In a message dated 27/11/2012 20:32:36 GMT Standard Time, [hidden email] writes: My understanding is: everything is energy and is vibrating in certain levels; there are life enhancing levels and life weakening levels or positive and negative. Dirty means negative or life weakening: that can be emotions, thought fields, EMF radiation and any energetic pollution. The research I mentioned were conducted in a normal laboratory and later one in ones in which animals were used for testing, the dirty energy was quite high. I have encountered dirty energy a lot in my healing practice when clients released that part of them which is called stress, leaving that portion in the office. Any healing professional will recognize that, feeling tied and weak after a while. It is very thick in hospitals with all the Wi-Fi and emf, emotions and closed hearts, but actually in any place, in which humans meet and work. From: e4health [via eSens] [mailto:[hidden email].com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) ] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 8:47 PM To: hanskleinert Subject: RE: Smart Phone Can someone give me an explanation of "dirty energy"? And an example if possible. Thank you. Estelle [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] _____ If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below: _http://esens.966376.n3.nabble.com/Smart-Phone-tp4023982p4024024.html_ (http://esens.966376.n3.nabble.com/Smart-Phone-tp4023982p4024024.html) To start a new topic under eSens, email [hidden email].com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) To unsubscribe from Smart Phone, click here <_http://esens.966376.n3.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=unsubscri b_ (http://esens.966376.n3.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=unsubscrib) e_by_code&node=4023982&code=aC5rbGVpbmVydEBtYW5hc3RlLmNvbXw0MDIzOTgyfC0xODMw MjY1MzA0> . <_http://esens.966376.n3.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=macro_vie w_ (http://esens.966376.n3.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=macro_view) er&id=instant_html%21nabble%3Aemail.naml&base=nabble.naml.namespaces.BasicNa mespace-nabble.view.web.template.NabbleNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.No deNamespace&breadcrumbs=notify_subscribers%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-instant_ema ils%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-send_instant_email%21nabble%3Aemail.naml> NAML -- View this message in context: _http://esens.966376.n3.nabble.com/Smart-Phone-tp4023982p4024026.html_ (http://esens.966376.n3.nabble.com/Smart-Phone-tp4023982p4024026.html) Sent from the eSens mailing list archive at Nabble.com. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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I am very open to the healing/spiritual/emotional aspects of the debate on
energy, but I fear that if those with ES start to mix up the latter with some of the good science that is being presented on the subject our plight will suffer, this is especially true when it comes to representing the issue in the media. puk In a message dated 27/11/2012 18:05:22 GMT Standard Time, [hidden email] writes: Oh, yes, I can see your point and yes, correct. I meant scientifically proven to alter electromagnetic frequency. But fact is that 'Chi' is providing the means and when we can harness it very specific, we can get the results we seek. If you would be open to read the Certificate, I could let you read it. Prof J. Jones (professor for radiology) from the Irvine University was also part of the research. Dr. Kronn and Prof. Jones did work before together, I remember a research conducted over a period of 10 years, finding that dirty energy reduces the self-healing power of human cells to 0% - very interestingly- when 10 prana healers over a period of 4 month cleared a dirty laboratory, the resurrection/rejuvenation power increased from 0 % in a dirty environment to 87 % in a cleaned lab. It showed scientifically, how much the impact of our dirty environment is and based on that gave ground for developing solutions, which works within seconds. I belief Marc, that these challenges we live in, can bring the solutions also, when we are open and look with the totally of our hearts and not with our greedy mind From: Marc Martin [via eSens] [mailto:[hidden email].com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) ] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 6:16 PM To: hanskleinert Subject: RE: Smart Phone On November 27, hanskleinert <[hidden email]> wrote: > Thanks for your pointers, yes, I agree, 100 % would be the Best, but don't > forget that this is the first time that actually EMF is altered and 35% as a > beginning is not too bad.! Well, maybe this is the first time as far as you know, but I think people have been altering EMF for decades using a variety of means. I think the Springlife Polarizers (first produced in the late 1950's) were probably the best "Chi" generators I've ever encountered, and I've noticed that they are pretty good for cellphones. Unfortunately, I don't believe these are manufactured any more. Marc _____ If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below: _http://esens.966376.n3.nabble.com/Smart-Phone-tp4023982p4024022.html_ (http://esens.966376.n3.nabble.com/Smart-Phone-tp4023982p4024022.html) To start a new topic under eSens, email [hidden email].com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) To unsubscribe from Smart Phone, click here <_http://esens.966376.n3.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=unsubscri b_ (http://esens.966376.n3.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=unsubscrib) e_by_code&node=4023982&code=aC5rbGVpbmVydEBtYW5hc3RlLmNvbXw0MDIzOTgyfC0xODMw MjY1MzA0> . <_http://esens.966376.n3.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=macro_vie w_ (http://esens.966376.n3.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=macro_view) er&id=instant_html%21nabble%3Aemail.naml&base=nabble.naml.namespaces.BasicNa mespace-nabble.view.web.template.NabbleNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.No deNamespace&breadcrumbs=notify_subscribers%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-instant_ema ils%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-send_instant_email%21nabble%3Aemail.naml> NAML -- View this message in context: _http://esens.966376.n3.nabble.com/Smart-Phone-tp4023982p4024023.html_ (http://esens.966376.n3.nabble.com/Smart-Phone-tp4023982p4024023.html) Sent from the eSens mailing list archive at Nabble.com. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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I trust you being right in that but in order to heal and protect oneself one is very much invited to expand consciousness. Unless one realizes that everything is giving informations to our reality. Have you seen ‘what the bleep do we know?’, or the presentation of Bruce Lipton? It shows what we are in a deeper sense and how fragile we are. The solution, I feel, has to encompass all of that. I have worked with clients over years again and again, each time when they went back home into their dirty energy spaces and relationships, they had relapses. But after all, I am a guest here and do probably not know whats going one, therefore I am not taking a position and feel, that yours is right. From: paulpjc [via eSens] [mailto:[hidden email]] I am very open to the healing/spiritual/emotional aspects of the debate on If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below: http://esens.966376.n3.nabble.com/Smart-Phone-tp4023982p4024029.html To start a new topic under eSens, email [hidden email] |
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Thank you puk. I'm reading and learning. Dirty energy and dirty power
are both negative. Estelle [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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I am with you on this - One of the issues I have with all the wireless
polluting technologies is that they override and entrain our natural brain rhythms and thus remove us surreptitiously from such vital mental and physical energies "whispers" that you describe, That is the true crime ! puk In a message dated 28/11/2012 14:47:26 GMT Standard Time, [hidden email] writes: I trust you being right in that but in order to heal and protect oneself one is very much invited to expand consciousness. Unless one realizes that everything is giving informations to our reality [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Paul, I am very adamant with you in that. Looking at history evolving into the present state of pollution in so many levels, I have the suspicion that there is a purpose behind all, even just the aloofness ignoring for the sake of profit gain the damaging effects on nature (including humans, animals and plants) is a crime. Exposing that in any level, we regain our power. More scientists, inventors, doctors etc. getting up on the barricades too. Each of us is ask to be on our place. I see my life purpose in that, having seen much of the fake, all around. I am glad to be here and in that, … it’s a great time! From: paulpjc [via eSens] [mailto:[hidden email]] I am with you on this - One of the issues I have with all the wireless If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below: http://esens.966376.n3.nabble.com/Smart-Phone-tp4023982p4024032.html To start a new topic under eSens, email [hidden email] |
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