Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw cavitations...(???)
Locked
12
12
Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw cavitations...(???)
 
|
Salut, all. I've had Lyme disese since age 8 and am now 25. No diagnosis until age 24. Got chemically sensitive at age 21 & now literally feel like I'm dying from the fx of Smart Meters. It's been 2 weeks of complete removal from exposure (no power lines or anything else within about 2 miles in every direction) since my 4-day Smart Meter exposure. I'm still getting a lot of symptoms. Feels like I had another stroke-like episode & got more nervous system damage. The scary thing is, I've never had certain symptoms before: ALS-type symptoms, such as temporary paralysis, weak limbs, choking episodes, trouble holding neck up, poorer coordination that I ever got from Lyme, 5x mroe microseizures than I ever experienced from Lyme. Weirdest thing is these developed a few days AFTER removal from exposure. I've been in the off-grid cabin for about 2 weeks & these symptoms persist & I even occasionally still get that buzzing, humming feeling of brain & body being microwaved, which I got the whole time I was around Smart Meters. Since the towns I'm near will be Smart-Metered by September, I will be a complete hermit by that point; never going to the grocery store, another doctor, or to the library again. It doesn't help that my grandfather is dying of ALS as we speak, as his father did before him, & his best friend. On top of that, I can't tell if the Lyme is predisposing me to be electrically hypersensitive or not. And finally, my stroke-like episodes started happening 1 year after I had my wisdom teeth removed, long enough for bacteria-filled cavitations to develop in the pockets of bone where the teeth had been removed. I've heard these can also predispose a person to electrosensitivity (altho I can't afford the surgery to fix it).
Either way, I just really hope this brief exposure didn't trigger ALS, but if I go by my intuition & remember how it felt, it may sound crazy, but it was like I could FEEL genetic damage being done. Some of the fx were even visible to healthy people, unlike many of the neuro fx of Lyme; after the 4-day, more intense exposure to Smart Meters, my face & ears turned red & my temp was 102.5; it rarely goes above 99, even when I've got the flu. I haven't even stayed in a building with Smart Meter on it; I only stayed in buildings where the NEIGHBORS had them, & they were 100 ft. away. Not sure what to do; no money & can't get on disability or even SSI, b/c none of my conditions are recognized & I don't have enuf work credits. Soon there will be virtually NO PLACE that I can work. I'm going to try a conductive shielding hood made from a fabric called Thule, and a Silverell hoodie. The company is sending the hood to me for free b/c they understand the severity fo my situation, but then I read the posts on how no shielding seems to work. The company told me that w/ the shielding fabrics, it's still not clear that grounding even works. I'm just praying that this damage is reversible, despite the constant disabling symptoms. Most of all, I pray it's not ALS & it's just damage from Lyme disease, so that if I eventually get the money to treat the Lyme, I'll see the worst of the EHS symptoms (temp. paralysis, choking, increased seizures) diminish. Based on my symptoms, does anyone ahve any ideas as to why the symptoms have persisted so long after removal from exposure, and most of all, whether or not this could be more Lyme related or more ALS related? Thanks so much. -E. Drew |
|
|
Hi E. Drew,
ES is complicated because it's not just microwaves that can cause problems. There's also electricity, magnetic fields, and VLF (very low frequencies). It seems that some forms of EMF can cause enough damage that they sensitize you to other forms of EMF that you previously weren't sensitive to. I watched a video once of a woman who was fine before she lived near a cell tower. After that experience, she became sensitive to other electronics and wireless devices she never was sensitive to before. In other words, though you are now away from the smart meters, you may have been damaged enough by the smart meters that you developed a new sensitivity, e.g., to electricity now. I would recommend to try turning the electricity off altogether from the circuit breaker panel as a test to see if you're sensitive to electricity. As for the conductive shielding, it does work to shield against microwaves, but it may also pick up nearby electrical fields. The larger area the fabric covers, the more electrical fields it will pick up from surrounding walls and floor (coming from the wiring you do not see). I think if you are wearing the fabric close to your body, you probably won't pick up any electrical fields that you wouldn't have already picked up because of the water in our bodies which is naturally conductive anyway. However, if you are making a large tent, your tent corners may be in positions of high electricity that you would never physically be near otherwise. Note: Conductive shielding doesn't seem to help with VLF, which needs to be addressed separately, usually by unplugging the source of it. --- In [hidden email], "necessejamais" <necessejamais@...> wrote: I've been in the off-grid cabin for about 2 weeks & these symptoms persist & I even occasionally still get that buzzing, humming feeling of brain & body being microwaved, which I got the whole time I was around Smart Meters. ... > Not sure what to do; no money & can't get on disability or even SSI, b/c none of my conditions are recognized & I don't have enuf work credits. Soon there will be virtually NO PLACE that I can work. I'm going to try a conductive shielding hood made from a fabric called Thule, and a Silverell hoodie. The company is sending the hood to me for free b/c they understand the severity fo my situation, but then I read the posts on how no shielding seems to work. The company told me that w/ the shielding fabrics, it's still not clear that grounding even works. I'm just praying that this damage is reversible, despite the constant disabling symptoms. Most of all, I pray it's not ALS & it's just damage from Lyme disease, so that if I eventually get the money to treat the Lyme, I'll see the worst of the EHS symptoms (temp. paralysis, choking, increased seizures) diminish. Based on my symptoms, does anyone ahve any ideas as to why the symptoms have persisted so long after removal from exposure, and most of all, whether or not this could be more Lyme related or more ALS related? |
|
|
One more thing. You can find many things to correct at your current place at http://www.wireless-precaution.com/main/precautions.php
For example, this year I finally took care of the dimmer switches of my home and had them replaced to on-off switches, and I tried shutting off some circuit breakers I didn't need. I should have done it years ago, but I didn't know at that time about intermediate frequencies and electric fields. --- In [hidden email], "emraware" <emraware@...> wrote: > > Hi E. Drew, > > ES is complicated because it's not just microwaves that can cause problems. There's also electricity, magnetic fields, and VLF (very low frequencies). It seems that some forms of EMF can cause enough damage that they sensitize you to other forms of EMF that you previously weren't sensitive to. I watched a video once of a woman who was fine before she lived near a cell tower. After that experience, she became sensitive to other electronics and wireless devices she never was sensitive to before. In other words, though you are now away from the smart meters, you may have been damaged enough by the smart meters that you developed a new sensitivity, e.g., to electricity now. I would recommend to try turning the electricity off altogether from the circuit breaker panel as a test to see if you're sensitive to electricity. > > As for the conductive shielding, it does work to shield against microwaves, but it may also pick up nearby electrical fields. The larger area the fabric covers, the more electrical fields it will pick up from surrounding walls and floor (coming from the wiring you do not see). I think if you are wearing the fabric close to your body, you probably won't pick up any electrical fields that you wouldn't have already picked up because of the water in our bodies which is naturally conductive anyway. However, if you are making a large tent, your tent corners may be in positions of high electricity that you would never physically be near otherwise. > > Note: Conductive shielding doesn't seem to help with VLF, which needs to be addressed separately, usually by unplugging the source of it. > > > --- In [hidden email], "necessejamais" <necessejamais@> wrote: > I've been in the off-grid cabin for about 2 weeks & these symptoms persist & I even occasionally still get that buzzing, humming feeling of brain & body being microwaved, which I got the whole time I was around Smart Meters. > > ... > > > Not sure what to do; no money & can't get on disability or even SSI, b/c none of my conditions are recognized & I don't have enuf work credits. Soon there will be virtually NO PLACE that I can work. I'm going to try a conductive shielding hood made from a fabric called Thule, and a Silverell hoodie. The company is sending the hood to me for free b/c they understand the severity fo my situation, but then I read the posts on how no shielding seems to work. The company told me that w/ the shielding fabrics, it's still not clear that grounding even works. I'm just praying that this damage is reversible, despite the constant disabling symptoms. Most of all, I pray it's not ALS & it's just damage from Lyme disease, so that if I eventually get the money to treat the Lyme, I'll see the worst of the EHS symptoms (temp. paralysis, choking, increased seizures) diminish. Based on my symptoms, does anyone ahve any ideas as to why the symptoms have persisted so long after removal from exposure, and most of all, whether or not this could be more Lyme related or more ALS related? > |
Re: Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw cavitations...(???)
|
|
In reply to this post by Elysia Drew
Have you considered heavy metals as being a cause of the sensitivities. I keep coming on information about how it makes EM sensitivity worse and is always a component of Lyme disease, and just about every chronic disease. I know I have tons of heavy metals, and I have chronic Lyme disease. I don't know for sure I am EM sensitive, but I do know that the only time I sleep like a baby is when I'm in a remote mountain area where there is no cell phones, etc. Makes me think I am EM sensitive.
--- In [hidden email], "necessejamais" <necessejamais@...> wrote: > > Salut, all. I've had Lyme disese since age 8 and am now 25. No diagnosis until age 24. Got chemically sensitive at age 21 & now literally feel like I'm dying from the fx of Smart Meters. It's been 2 weeks of complete removal from exposure (no power lines or anything else within about 2 miles in every direction) since my 4-day Smart Meter exposure. I'm still getting a lot of symptoms. Feels like I had another stroke-like episode & got more nervous system damage. The scary thing is, I've never had certain symptoms before: ALS-type symptoms, such as temporary paralysis, weak limbs, choking episodes, trouble holding neck up, poorer coordination that I ever got from Lyme, 5x mroe microseizures than I ever experienced from Lyme. Weirdest thing is these developed a few days AFTER removal from exposure. I've been in the off-grid cabin for about 2 weeks & these symptoms persist & I even occasionally still get that buzzing, humming feeling of brain & body being microwaved, which I got the whole time I was around Smart Meters. Since the towns I'm near will be Smart-Metered by September, I will be a complete hermit by that point; never going to the grocery store, another doctor, or to the library again. It doesn't help that my grandfather is dying of ALS as we speak, as his father did before him, & his best friend. On top of that, I can't tell if the Lyme is predisposing me to be electrically hypersensitive or not. And finally, my stroke-like episodes started happening 1 year after I had my wisdom teeth removed, long enough for bacteria-filled cavitations to develop in the pockets of bone where the teeth had been removed. I've heard these can also predispose a person to electrosensitivity (altho I can't afford the surgery to fix it). > > Either way, I just really hope this brief exposure didn't trigger ALS, but if I go by my intuition & remember how it felt, it may sound crazy, but it was like I could FEEL genetic damage being done. Some of the fx were even visible to healthy people, unlike many of the neuro fx of Lyme; after the 4-day, more intense exposure to Smart Meters, my face & ears turned red & my temp was 102.5; it rarely goes above 99, even when I've got the flu. I haven't even stayed in a building with Smart Meter on it; I only stayed in buildings where the NEIGHBORS had them, & they were 100 ft. away. > > Not sure what to do; no money & can't get on disability or even SSI, b/c none of my conditions are recognized & I don't have enuf work credits. Soon there will be virtually NO PLACE that I can work. I'm going to try a conductive shielding hood made from a fabric called Thule, and a Silverell hoodie. The company is sending the hood to me for free b/c they understand the severity fo my situation, but then I read the posts on how no shielding seems to work. The company told me that w/ the shielding fabrics, it's still not clear that grounding even works. I'm just praying that this damage is reversible, despite the constant disabling symptoms. Most of all, I pray it's not ALS & it's just damage from Lyme disease, so that if I eventually get the money to treat the Lyme, I'll see the worst of the EHS symptoms (temp. paralysis, choking, increased seizures) diminish. Based on my symptoms, does anyone ahve any ideas as to why the symptoms have persisted so long after removal from exposure, and most of all, whether or not this could be more Lyme related or more ALS related? > > Thanks so much. > -E. Drew > |
Re: Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw cavitations...(???)
|
|
E. Drew,
You've got it bad and there is no more fooling around with this and that. I would go to Klinghardt in Oregon and check yourself in. http://www.klinghardtacademy.com/ I know you have no money. I would appeal to their charity side and see if they can write off your treatment as an experimental case or something. You will get a lot of different points of advice on this list, many very good and helpful. I don't think you can afford to tinker any more. Go to the man. Andrew On Mar 24, 2011, at 12:21 PM, researcher004 wrote: > Have you considered heavy metals as being a cause of the > sensitivities. I keep coming on information about how it makes EM > sensitivity worse and is always a component of Lyme disease, and > just about every chronic disease. I know I have tons of heavy > metals, and I have chronic Lyme disease. I don't know for sure I > am EM sensitive, but I do know that the only time I sleep like a > baby is when I'm in a remote mountain area where there is no cell > phones, etc. Makes me think I am EM sensitive. > > --- In [hidden email], "necessejamais" <necessejamais@...> > wrote: >> >> Salut, all. I've had Lyme disese since age 8 and am now 25. No >> diagnosis until age 24. Got chemically sensitive at age 21 & now >> literally feel like I'm dying from the fx of Smart Meters. It's >> been 2 weeks of complete removal from exposure (no power lines or >> anything else within about 2 miles in every direction) since my 4- >> day Smart Meter exposure. I'm still getting a lot of symptoms. >> Feels like I had another stroke-like episode & got more nervous >> system damage. The scary thing is, I've never had certain symptoms >> before: ALS-type symptoms, such as temporary paralysis, weak >> limbs, choking episodes, trouble holding neck up, poorer >> coordination that I ever got from Lyme, 5x mroe microseizures than >> I ever experienced from Lyme. Weirdest thing is these developed a >> few days AFTER removal from exposure. I've been in the off-grid >> cabin for about 2 weeks & these symptoms persist & I even >> occasionally still get that buzzing, humming feeling of brain & >> body being microwaved, which I got the whole time I was around >> Smart Meters. Since the towns I'm near will be Smart-Metered by >> September, I will be a complete hermit by that point; never going >> to the grocery store, another doctor, or to the library again. It >> doesn't help that my grandfather is dying of ALS as we speak, as >> his father did before him, & his best friend. On top of that, I >> can't tell if the Lyme is predisposing me to be electrically >> hypersensitive or not. And finally, my stroke-like episodes >> started happening 1 year after I had my wisdom teeth removed, long >> enough for bacteria-filled cavitations to develop in the pockets >> of bone where the teeth had been removed. I've heard these can >> also predispose a person to electrosensitivity (altho I can't >> afford the surgery to fix it). >> >> Either way, I just really hope this brief exposure didn't trigger >> ALS, but if I go by my intuition & remember how it felt, it may >> sound crazy, but it was like I could FEEL genetic damage being >> done. Some of the fx were even visible to healthy people, unlike >> many of the neuro fx of Lyme; after the 4-day, more intense >> exposure to Smart Meters, my face & ears turned red & my temp was >> 102.5; it rarely goes above 99, even when I've got the flu. I >> haven't even stayed in a building with Smart Meter on it; I only >> stayed in buildings where the NEIGHBORS had them, & they were 100 >> ft. away. >> >> Not sure what to do; no money & can't get on disability or even >> SSI, b/c none of my conditions are recognized & I don't have enuf >> work credits. Soon there will be virtually NO PLACE that I can >> work. I'm going to try a conductive shielding hood made from a >> fabric called Thule, and a Silverell hoodie. The company is >> sending the hood to me for free b/c they understand the severity >> fo my situation, but then I read the posts on how no shielding >> seems to work. The company told me that w/ the shielding fabrics, >> it's still not clear that grounding even works. I'm just praying >> that this damage is reversible, despite the constant disabling >> symptoms. Most of all, I pray it's not ALS & it's just damage from >> Lyme disease, so that if I eventually get the money to treat the >> Lyme, I'll see the worst of the EHS symptoms (temp. paralysis, >> choking, increased seizures) diminish. Based on my symptoms, does >> anyone ahve any ideas as to why the symptoms have persisted so >> long after removal from exposure, and most of all, whether or not >> this could be more Lyme related or more ALS related? >> >> Thanks so much. >> -E. Drew >> > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > Andrew McAfee Lecturer/Horn Instructor, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill Music Director/Conductor Triangle Youth Ballet Former Principal Horn, North Carolina Symphony (1992-2007) 919.787.3022 (home) 919.962-2492 (office) [hidden email] www.hornlessons.org [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Re: Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw cavitations...(???)
Administrator
|
> I would go to Klinghardt in Oregon and check yourself in.
> http://www.klinghardtacademy.com/ Klinghardt is in Washington, not Oregon. :-) I've been there. I didn't go back. It takes months to get into see Klinghardt. He is very expensive. And there is no guarantee that what he'll do will help. I know of someone who spent 2 years and $20,000 going to Klinghardt with nothing to show for it. Eventually she switched to the doctor who I'm seeing now (although I wouldn't necessarily recommend her either). Marc |
Re: Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw cavitations...(???)
|
|
Hey has anyone heard about soaking your feet in sea salt? The woman who suffers from EMS that I work for did this...and now is even more sick...I think it may have thrown off the electrolytes?
--- On Thu, 3/24/11, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw cavitations...(???) To: [hidden email] Date: Thursday, March 24, 2011, 2:37 PM > I would go to Klinghardt in Oregon and check yourself in. > http://www.klinghardtacademy.com/ Klinghardt is in Washington, not Oregon. :-) I've been there. I didn't go back. It takes months to get into see Klinghardt. He is very expensive. And there is no guarantee that what he'll do will help. I know of someone who spent 2 years and $20,000 going to Klinghardt with nothing to show for it. Eventually she switched to the doctor who I'm seeing now (although I wouldn't necessarily recommend her either). Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Re: Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw cavitations...(???)
|
Administrator
|
> Hey has anyone heard about soaking your feet in sea salt? The woman who
> suffers from EMS that I work for did this...and now is even more sick...I > think it may have thrown off the electrolytes? I can't recall anyone mentioning anything about this in the past... I think mostly people soak in Epsom Salt baths, although I've also seen recommendations for soaking with Baking Soda and various clays. Marc |
Re: Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw cavitations...(???)
|
|
I think soaking in sea salt is quite popular...
In below link, you can read about Snoshoe and Ada, both liking the sea salt: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/message/18081 On the same link you can read about people (Diane) happy about the Epsom salt (MgSO4), There's also a lot of enthusiasm by some for MagnesiumChloride MgCl2 (Lizzie...). Comparing MgCl2 vs Epsom Salt MgSO4: http://alobar.livejournal.com/2746060.html (they prefer MgCl2) I think most say it's good to add some baking soda as well when bathing in salt? --- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote: > > > Hey has anyone heard about soaking your feet in sea salt? The woman who > > suffers from EMS that I work for did this...and now is even more sick...I > > think it may have thrown off the electrolytes? > > I can't recall anyone mentioning anything about this in the past... I think > mostly people soak in Epsom Salt baths, although I've also seen > recommendations for soaking with Baking Soda and various clays. > > Marc > |
|
|
Effective are good ionic foot spas.
Otherwise one can bath its feet in very hot water, where baking soda is added. This way, a lot of stuff may get out of your feet. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton ----- Original Message ----- From: stephen_vandevijvere To: [hidden email] Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 10:57 PM Subject: [eSens] Re: Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw cavitations...(???) I think soaking in sea salt is quite popular... In below link, you can read about Snoshoe and Ada, both liking the sea salt: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/message/18081 On the same link you can read about people (Diane) happy about the Epsom salt (MgSO4), There's also a lot of enthusiasm by some for MagnesiumChloride MgCl2 (Lizzie...). Comparing MgCl2 vs Epsom Salt MgSO4: http://alobar.livejournal.com/2746060.html (they prefer MgCl2) I think most say it's good to add some baking soda as well when bathing in salt? --- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote: > > > Hey has anyone heard about soaking your feet in sea salt? The woman who > > suffers from EMS that I work for did this...and now is even more sick...I > > think it may have thrown off the electrolytes? > > I can't recall anyone mentioning anything about this in the past... I think > mostly people soak in Epsom Salt baths, although I've also seen > recommendations for soaking with Baking Soda and various clays. > > Marc > ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Re: Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw cavitations...(???)
|
|
In reply to this post by emraware
That's just it, I'm not near ANY electricity, except for the solar battery which I only use to deliver power to the wiring every few days, & only when needed. The only thing I leave on all the time is the switch used to allow the battery to be charged by the solar panel on the roof. That doesn't seem to be bothering me. I'm in an area where there's no power lines for 2 miles, & I think the nearest cell tower is a mile away, so I'nm not sure why it's so bad. Just extra worried b/c of severity of symptoms, & because when they install Smart Meters in this area, the nearest 1 will only be a mile away. I just hope that's enuf distance for it to not affect me, tho the range of the SM's is over 2 miles.
-E. Drew --- On Wed, 3/23/11, emraware <[hidden email]> wrote: From: emraware <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] Re: Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw cavitations...(???) To: [hidden email] Date: Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 8:06 PM Hi E. Drew, ES is complicated because it's not just microwaves that can cause problems. There's also electricity, magnetic fields, and VLF (very low frequencies). It seems that some forms of EMF can cause enough damage that they sensitize you to other forms of EMF that you previously weren't sensitive to. I watched a video once of a woman who was fine before she lived near a cell tower. After that experience, she became sensitive to other electronics and wireless devices she never was sensitive to before. In other words, though you are now away from the smart meters, you may have been damaged enough by the smart meters that you developed a new sensitivity, e.g., to electricity now. I would recommend to try turning the electricity off altogether from the circuit breaker panel as a test to see if you're sensitive to electricity. As for the conductive shielding, it does work to shield against microwaves, but it may also pick up nearby electrical fields. The larger area the fabric covers, the more electrical fields it will pick up from surrounding walls and floor (coming from the wiring you do not see). I think if you are wearing the fabric close to your body, you probably won't pick up any electrical fields that you wouldn't have already picked up because of the water in our bodies which is naturally conductive anyway. However, if you are making a large tent, your tent corners may be in positions of high electricity that you would never physically be near otherwise. Note: Conductive shielding doesn't seem to help with VLF, which needs to be addressed separately, usually by unplugging the source of it. --- In [hidden email], "necessejamais" <necessejamais@...> wrote: I've been in the off-grid cabin for about 2 weeks & these symptoms persist & I even occasionally still get that buzzing, humming feeling of brain & body being microwaved, which I got the whole time I was around Smart Meters. ... > Not sure what to do; no money & can't get on disability or even SSI, b/c none of my conditions are recognized & I don't have enuf work credits. Soon there will be virtually NO PLACE that I can work. I'm going to try a conductive shielding hood made from a fabric called Thule, and a Silverell hoodie. The company is sending the hood to me for free b/c they understand the severity fo my situation, but then I read the posts on how no shielding seems to work. The company told me that w/ the shielding fabrics, it's still not clear that grounding even works. I'm just praying that this damage is reversible, despite the constant disabling symptoms. Most of all, I pray it's not ALS & it's just damage from Lyme disease, so that if I eventually get the money to treat the Lyme, I'll see the worst of the EHS symptoms (temp. paralysis, choking, increased seizures) diminish. Based on my symptoms, does anyone ahve any ideas as to why the symptoms have persisted so long after removal from exposure, and most of all, whether or not this could be more Lyme related or more ALS related? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Re: Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw cavitations...(???)
|
|
In reply to this post by researcher004
Hello. Yes, there are multiple issues going on, & i've def. considered heavy metals. I had my 1st seizure 1 yr. after getting my 1st fillings, which only contain tiny bits of metal. I know Lyme makes people hold on to mercury like crazy, but again, it means I need to see a better Lyme doctor willing to treat it as a chronic condition; not gonna happen b/c it's too controversial, & w/ Smart Meters everywhere, I can't go to doctors anymore. I've been taking Chlorella, ALA & cilantro to chelate mercury & the other metals for the last 1.5 yrs.; w/o success. I do know that the bacteria in jaw cavitations are actually considered more toxic than mercury, but again, the health fx of cavitations aren't well-recognized. Maybe you could try the chelation protocol I did & see if it helps you. I would advise NOT to do the typical chelators, like EDTA & DMPS, b/c my Lyme doc has warned me that he's had patients who got permanent brain & CNS damage from using these
modalities. Bon courage, mon ami :) --- On Thu, 3/24/11, researcher004 <[hidden email]> wrote: From: researcher004 <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] Re: Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw cavitations...(???) To: [hidden email] Date: Thursday, March 24, 2011, 12:21 PM Have you considered heavy metals as being a cause of the sensitivities. I keep coming on information about how it makes EM sensitivity worse and is always a component of Lyme disease, and just about every chronic disease. I know I have tons of heavy metals, and I have chronic Lyme disease. I don't know for sure I am EM sensitive, but I do know that the only time I sleep like a baby is when I'm in a remote mountain area where there is no cell phones, etc. Makes me think I am EM sensitive. --- In [hidden email], "necessejamais" <necessejamais@...> wrote: > > Salut, all. I've had Lyme disese since age 8 and am now 25. No diagnosis until age 24. Got chemically sensitive at age 21 & now literally feel like I'm dying from the fx of Smart Meters. It's been 2 weeks of complete removal from exposure (no power lines or anything else within about 2 miles in every direction) since my 4-day Smart Meter exposure. I'm still getting a lot of symptoms. Feels like I had another stroke-like episode & got more nervous system damage. The scary thing is, I've never had certain symptoms before: ALS-type symptoms, such as temporary paralysis, weak limbs, choking episodes, trouble holding neck up, poorer coordination that I ever got from Lyme, 5x mroe microseizures than I ever experienced from Lyme. Weirdest thing is these developed a few days AFTER removal from exposure. I've been in the off-grid cabin for about 2 weeks & these symptoms persist & I even occasionally still get that buzzing, humming feeling of brain & body being microwaved, which I got the whole time I was around Smart Meters. Since the towns I'm near will be Smart-Metered by September, I will be a complete hermit by that point; never going to the grocery store, another doctor, or to the library again. It doesn't help that my grandfather is dying of ALS as we speak, as his father did before him, & his best friend. On top of that, I can't tell if the Lyme is predisposing me to be electrically hypersensitive or not. And finally, my stroke-like episodes started happening 1 year after I had my wisdom teeth removed, long enough for bacteria-filled cavitations to develop in the pockets of bone where the teeth had been removed. I've heard these can also predispose a person to electrosensitivity (altho I can't afford the surgery to fix it). > > Either way, I just really hope this brief exposure didn't trigger ALS, but if I go by my intuition & remember how it felt, it may sound crazy, but it was like I could FEEL genetic damage being done. Some of the fx were even visible to healthy people, unlike many of the neuro fx of Lyme; after the 4-day, more intense exposure to Smart Meters, my face & ears turned red & my temp was 102.5; it rarely goes above 99, even when I've got the flu. I haven't even stayed in a building with Smart Meter on it; I only stayed in buildings where the NEIGHBORS had them, & they were 100 ft. away. > > Not sure what to do; no money & can't get on disability or even SSI, b/c none of my conditions are recognized & I don't have enuf work credits. Soon there will be virtually NO PLACE that I can work. I'm going to try a conductive shielding hood made from a fabric called Thule, and a Silverell hoodie. The company is sending the hood to me for free b/c they understand the severity fo my situation, but then I read the posts on how no shielding seems to work. The company told me that w/ the shielding fabrics, it's still not clear that grounding even works. I'm just praying that this damage is reversible, despite the constant disabling symptoms. Most of all, I pray it's not ALS & it's just damage from Lyme disease, so that if I eventually get the money to treat the Lyme, I'll see the worst of the EHS symptoms (temp. paralysis, choking, increased seizures) diminish. Based on my symptoms, does anyone ahve any ideas as to why the symptoms have persisted so long after removal from exposure, and most of all, whether or not this could be more Lyme related or more ALS related? > > Thanks so much. > -E. Drew > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Re: Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw cavitations...(???)
|
|
In reply to this post by Marc Martin
Ok, I'm going to opine for a moment, if the group doesn't mind: heavy metals are NOT the issue. EHS is an immune system problem, reflecting many different underlying issues, from faulty detox pathways to genetic abnormalities. Heavy metals complicate & exacerbate it, but are rarely the actual cause, & I've seen too many people hurt my DMPS & EDTA, or dumped all their $ into chelating metals, & having no results. If you're thinking about spending your $ on Dr. Klinghardt or any other chelation-centered therapy for EHS, please reconsider.
Love & blessings,E. Drew --- On Thu, 3/24/11, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw cavitations...(???) To: [hidden email] Date: Thursday, March 24, 2011, 2:37 PM > I would go to Klinghardt in Oregon and check yourself in. > http://www.klinghardtacademy.com/ Klinghardt is in Washington, not Oregon. :-) I've been there. I didn't go back. It takes months to get into see Klinghardt. He is very expensive. And there is no guarantee that what he'll do will help. I know of someone who spent 2 years and $20,000 going to Klinghardt with nothing to show for it. Eventually she switched to the doctor who I'm seeing now (although I wouldn't necessarily recommend her either). Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Re: Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw cavitations...(???)
|
Administrator
|
Well, I think heavy metals ARE a major part of the issue for SOME
people. However, I also think it is fairly easy to self-diagnose this --- if you have a bad reaction to taking small amounts of alpha lipoic acid (<50 mg), that would indicate to me that heavy metal poisoning is at least ONE of your problems... And some people have claimed to be completely cured of their ES symptoms simply by using heavy metal detox methods -- ALA chelation, NDF chelation, ionic footbath, etc. And frankly, I have found chlorella tablets to make my ES much worse, so if you are still taking those, stopping them might help. Marc On Fri, 25 Mar 2011 11:43 -0700, "Elysia Drew" <[hidden email]> wrote: > Ok, I'm going to opine for a moment, if the group doesn't mind: heavy > metals are NOT the issue. EHS is an immune system problem, reflecting > many different underlying issues, from faulty detox pathways to genetic > abnormalities. Heavy metals complicate & exacerbate it, but are rarely > the actual cause, & I've seen too many people hurt my DMPS & EDTA, or > dumped all their $ into chelating metals, & having no results. If you're > thinking about spending your $ on Dr. Klinghardt or any other > chelation-centered therapy for EHS, please reconsider. > Love & blessings,E. Drew |
Re: Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw cavitations...(???)
|
|
I didn't react badly to the ALA, I just didn't feel helped by it. How could you tell Chlorella made you worse?
--- On Fri, 3/25/11, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw cavitations...(???) To: [hidden email] Date: Friday, March 25, 2011, 2:51 PM Well, I think heavy metals ARE a major part of the issue for SOME people. However, I also think it is fairly easy to self-diagnose this --- if you have a bad reaction to taking small amounts of alpha lipoic acid (<50 mg), that would indicate to me that heavy metal poisoning is at least ONE of your problems... And some people have claimed to be completely cured of their ES symptoms simply by using heavy metal detox methods -- ALA chelation, NDF chelation, ionic footbath, etc. And frankly, I have found chlorella tablets to make my ES much worse, so if you are still taking those, stopping them might help. Marc On Fri, 25 Mar 2011 11:43 -0700, "Elysia Drew" <[hidden email]> wrote: > Ok, I'm going to opine for a moment, if the group doesn't mind: heavy > metals are NOT the issue. EHS is an immune system problem, reflecting > many different underlying issues, from faulty detox pathways to genetic > abnormalities. Heavy metals complicate & exacerbate it, but are rarely > the actual cause, & I've seen too many people hurt my DMPS & EDTA, or > dumped all their $ into chelating metals, & having no results. If you're > thinking about spending your $ on Dr. Klinghardt or any other > chelation-centered therapy for EHS, please reconsider. > Love & blessings,E. Drew [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
|
Administrator
|
> I didn't react badly to the ALA, I just didn't feel helped by it.
Probably not mercury poisoning, then... > How could you tell Chlorella made you worse? Well, it was pretty obvious. -- take chlorella, symptoms get worse -- stop chlorella, symptoms get better Marc |
|
|
I've heard a lot of chorella is contaminated with other organisms.
I have some that tastes like pea soup and is a very pure green color... bu I haven't taken it enough to know if it helps me. Bill On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > > I didn't react badly to the ALA, I just didn't feel helped by it. > > Probably not mercury poisoning, then... > > > How could you tell Chlorella made you worse? > > Well, it was pretty obvious. > -- take chlorella, symptoms get worse > -- stop chlorella, symptoms get better > > Marc > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [hidden email] [hidden email] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [hidden email] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ |
|
Administrator
|
Yes, some of it is contaminated with heavy metals, so instead
of helping you with heavy metals, it actually gives you more of them! As I recall, the only time that I could ever sense the electrical wiring in my walls and power lines from a distance was when I was taking lots of chlorella. Marc On Fri, 25 Mar 2011 16:21 -0600, "Bill Bruno" <[hidden email]> wrote: > I've heard a lot of chorella is contaminated with other organisms. |
|
|
In reply to this post by Marc Martin
anyone tried vit K2 ?
In a message dated 25/03/2011 22:22:02 GMT Standard Time, [hidden email] writes: I've heard a lot of chorella is contaminated with other organisms. I have some that tastes like pea soup and is a very pure green color... bu I haven't taken it enough to know if it helps me. Bill On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > > I didn't react badly to the ALA, I just didn't feel helped by it. > > Probably not mercury poisoning, then... > > > How could you tell Chlorella made you worse? > > Well, it was pretty obvious. > -- take chlorella, symptoms get worse > -- stop chlorella, symptoms get better > > Marc > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Re: Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw cavitations...(???)
|
|
In reply to this post by Elysia Drew
Elysia Drew wrote:
> where there's no power lines for 2 miles, & I think the nearest cell tower is a mile away, so I'nm not sure why it's so bad. Only One mile? You should see a video I made on my ridge top, good reception of cell tower 7 miles away. One mile is very close for cell phones. Stewart |
«
Return to ES
|
1 view|%1 views
| Free forum by Nabble | Edit this page |