Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw cavitations...(???)

In my case, the closest cellphone towers (3 masts close to one another) are 1 mile from my house.

Here in Flanders = North of Belgium (Europe), that's pretty exceptional far away from cellphone masts!

I'm wondering, are there people here on eSens who live more than 1 mile from the nearest cellphone tower? Let me know where you live and I'll pay you a visit! ;-)

Of course the strength of the signal of the cellphone tower will also have to be taken into account + what kind of signal (2G, 3G/Umts, 4G,...) + how many electrosmog in that area...

For instance, I feel better in an area (south of Belgium/Ardennes) with less cellphone towers, even although I'm sometimes much closer to cellphone towers than 1 mile...

Stephen.




--- In [hidden email], S Andreason <sandreas41@...> wrote:

Hi, E,
 
Welcome to the group!  I am sorry to hear of your substantial problems!  You have more than your fair share going on.  :( 
 
I also have had the stroke-like (or actual stroke!) seizures you have mentioned, and I do not have either ALS or Lyme disease, that I know of (Heavens, I hope not--my medical file reads like a medical disease dictionary already!  ;)  )  As to why it would last so long after...  I imagine it is a reaction to actual brain damage done while you were near the smart meters. (You mention feeling like genetic damage was being done).  That said, while I have had these "seizures" probably approaching 50 times before in my life, they usually clear up after a few weeks or a month and I have little lasting damage.  (Not that lasting damage can not occur.)  Our bodies do have a remarkable propensity for recovery, generally speaking.
 
I had a similar thing last summer.  I had what medical professionals are now saying was an actual stroke (but I have had the same thing all my life, back to my teens; only this one had the full array of classic symptoms all together--not all of my episodes have--and lasted 6 or 7 hours instead of 2 to 4.)  Also, I am nearly 60 now and when I was young, doctors seemed to think I was too young to be having strokes, but now I am of that age where I am prime stroke material, so docs now think these are strokes!  (They were probably strokes all along, but we called them seizures back when I was younger.)
 
I seem to have a bit of residual eye problem from the episode, as well, but nothing extremely bad--sometimes I have blurry vision which lasts a day or 2 and I get a lightning flash in my right eye at times; but it took me a full 2 or 3 weeks to get my strength back after the initial event.  I had had a toxic exposure to paint fumes a couple weeks before where I felt like my brain was being fried, and also was having environmental problems which I couldn't identify (a friend thought it could have been toxins in the upper atmosphere from the Gulf oil spill, but there was no way of knowing that was or not the case).  I got zapped just prior to the event, by emfs from a passing vehicle which shocked my system.  Within a minute or 2, I could feel what felt like switches being turned on and off in the top of my head.  A minute or so after that, I got extreme weakness and could just barely make it to my bedroom to lie down.  The weakness and other
 symptoms which you mention are the same symptoms I have sometimes had.  However, the seizures are often also more like a classic stroke.  The one last summer included migraine headache, extreme confusion, right-sided weakness, problems walking--I had to drag my right leg, I couldn't see, and I couldn't think of how to speak many words, but knew what I wanted to say. 
 
I might add, I have generally been better in the past decade, which made me think this episode was perhaps due to solar flare activity.  During the 90s I had these episodes at least 4 or 5 times a year.  I had medical testing of all sorts back then and nobody had a clue what was going on.  In contrast, I think I may have had these episodes (also much briefer and less severe) only 2 or 3 times in the decade since.
 
So, I am writing to calm your fears a bit.  I doubt this is worsening ALS or Lyme.  And your current symptoms will likely subside in time.  I do think it has to do with ES and MCS, but the problem is, there are no doctors for these types of things.  If you have a doctor who will listen and try to help you, do go and try to figure it out with him/ her.  Maybe today (a decade later than all my testing), they will know more.
 
I wish you the best.  Bless you,
Diane

--- On Wed, 3/23/11, necessejamais <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: necessejamais <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw cavitations...(???)
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 4:39 PM


 



Salut, all. I've had Lyme disese since age 8 and am now 25. No diagnosis until age 24. Got chemically sensitive at age 21 & now literally feel like I'm dying from the fx of Smart Meters. It's been 2 weeks of complete removal from exposure (no power lines or anything else within about 2 miles in every direction) since my 4-day Smart Meter exposure. I'm still getting a lot of symptoms. Feels like I had another stroke-like episode & got more nervous system damage. The scary thing is, I've never had certain symptoms before: ALS-type symptoms, such as temporary paralysis, weak limbs, choking episodes, trouble holding neck up, poorer coordination that I ever got from Lyme, 5x mroe microseizures than I ever experienced from Lyme. Weirdest thing is these developed a few days AFTER removal from exposure. I've been in the off-grid cabin for about 2 weeks & these symptoms persist & I even occasionally still get that buzzing, humming feeling of brain & body being
 microwaved, which I got the whole time I was around Smart Meters. Since the towns I'm near will be Smart-Metered by September, I will be a complete hermit by that point; never going to the grocery store, another doctor, or to the library again. It doesn't help that my grandfather is dying of ALS as we speak, as his father did before him, & his best friend. On top of that, I can't tell if the Lyme is predisposing me to be electrically hypersensitive or not. And finally, my stroke-like episodes started happening 1 year after I had my wisdom teeth removed, long enough for bacteria-filled cavitations to develop in the pockets of bone where the teeth had been removed. I've heard these can also predispose a person to electrosensitivity (altho I can't afford the surgery to fix it).

Either way, I just really hope this brief exposure didn't trigger ALS, but if I go by my intuition & remember how it felt, it may sound crazy, but it was like I could FEEL genetic damage being done. Some of the fx were even visible to healthy people, unlike many of the neuro fx of Lyme; after the 4-day, more intense exposure to Smart Meters, my face & ears turned red & my temp was 102.5; it rarely goes above 99, even when I've got the flu. I haven't even stayed in a building with Smart Meter on it; I only stayed in buildings where the NEIGHBORS had them, & they were 100 ft. away.

Not sure what to do; no money & can't get on disability or even SSI, b/c none of my conditions are recognized & I don't have enuf work credits. Soon there will be virtually NO PLACE that I can work. I'm going to try a conductive shielding hood made from a fabric called Thule, and a Silverell hoodie. The company is sending the hood to me for free b/c they understand the severity fo my situation, but then I read the posts on how no shielding seems to work. The company told me that w/ the shielding fabrics, it's still not clear that grounding even works. I'm just praying that this damage is reversible, despite the constant disabling symptoms. Most of all, I pray it's not ALS & it's just damage from Lyme disease, so that if I eventually get the money to treat the Lyme, I'll see the worst of the EHS symptoms (temp. paralysis, choking, increased seizures) diminish. Based on my symptoms, does anyone ahve any ideas as to why the symptoms have persisted so long
 after removal from exposure, and most of all, whether or not this could be more Lyme related or more ALS related?

Thanks so much.
-E. Drew








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Here's something that fits right in with the stroke/seizure info. Dr. Andrew Moulden states:" Ischemia, hypoxia Microcirculation strokes (Mass & Zeta) is a common process to ALL vaccines, heavy metals, toxins, and infectious diseases. " Somewhere else in his information he says that strokes can also be caused from environmental factors. Although he doesn't specifically state (that I have found yet, anyway) that these environmental factors could be non-ionising radiation, the whole thing fits like a glove! I saw him at an anti vaccine seminar, (dvd called: Tolerance Lost) and he had pictures of children/babies where he pinpointed the areas of the face ie: eyes, corners of mouth, etc...that he proved were caused from vaccine injury. Of importance is the "delayed factor"...which I have noticed with myself when exposed to cell phone radiation/wifi etc. It does make sense, that any time the body is assaulted by toxins, be they from vaccines or radiation, such severe reactions such as stroke/seizures could occur.
Lizzie
 
 
 
 


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To: [hidden email]
From: [hidden email]
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 07:57:07 -0700
Subject: Re: [eSens] Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw cavitations...(???)


 



Hi, E,
 
Welcome to the group!  I am sorry to hear of your substantial problems!  You have more than your fair share going on.  :(
 
I also have had the stroke-like (or actual stroke!) seizures you have mentioned, and I do not have either ALS or Lyme disease, that I know of (Heavens, I hope not--my medical file reads like a medical disease dictionary already!  ;)  )  As to why it would last so long after...  I imagine it is a reaction to actual brain damage done while you were near the smart meters. (You mention feeling like genetic damage was being done).  That said, while I have had these "seizures" probably approaching 50 times before in my life, they usually clear up after a few weeks or a month and I have little lasting damage.  (Not that lasting damage can not occur.)  Our bodies do have a remarkable propensity for recovery, generally speaking.
 
I had a similar thing last summer.  I had what medical professionals are now saying was an actual stroke (but I have had the same thing all my life, back to my teens; only this one had the full array of classic symptoms all together--not all of my episodes have--and lasted 6 or 7 hours instead of 2 to 4.)  Also, I am nearly 60 now and when I was young, doctors seemed to think I was too young to be having strokes, but now I am of that age where I am prime stroke material, so docs now think these are strokes!  (They were probably strokes all along, but we called them seizures back when I was younger.)
 
I seem to have a bit of residual eye problem from the episode, as well, but nothing extremely bad--sometimes I have blurry vision which lasts a day or 2 and I get a lightning flash in my right eye at times; but it took me a full 2 or 3 weeks to get my strength back after the initial event.  I had had a toxic exposure to paint fumes a couple weeks before where I felt like my brain was being fried, and also was having environmental problems which I couldn't identify (a friend thought it could have been toxins in the upper atmosphere from the Gulf oil spill, but there was no way of knowing that was or not the case).  I got zapped just prior to the event, by emfs from a passing vehicle which shocked my system.  Within a minute or 2, I could feel what felt like switches being turned on and off in the top of my head.  A minute or so after that, I got extreme weakness and could just barely make it to my bedroom to lie down.  The weakness and other
symptoms which you mention are the same symptoms I have sometimes had.  However, the seizures are often also more like a classic stroke.  The one last summer included migraine headache, extreme confusion, right-sided weakness, problems walking--I had to drag my right leg, I couldn't see, and I couldn't think of how to speak many words, but knew what I wanted to say.  
 
I might add, I have generally been better in the past decade, which made me think this episode was perhaps due to solar flare activity.  During the 90s I had these episodes at least 4 or 5 times a year.  I had medical testing of all sorts back then and nobody had a clue what was going on.  In contrast, I think I may have had these episodes (also much briefer and less severe) only 2 or 3 times in the decade since.
 
So, I am writing to calm your fears a bit.  I doubt this is worsening ALS or Lyme.  And your current symptoms will likely subside in time.  I do think it has to do with ES and MCS, but the problem is, there are no doctors for these types of things.  If you have a doctor who will listen and try to help you, do go and try to figure it out with him/ her.  Maybe today (a decade later than all my testing), they will know more.
 
I wish you the best.  Bless you,
Diane

--- On Wed, 3/23/11, necessejamais <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: necessejamais <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw cavitations...(???)
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 4:39 PM

 

Salut, all. I've had Lyme disese since age 8 and am now 25. No diagnosis until age 24. Got chemically sensitive at age 21 & now literally feel like I'm dying from the fx of Smart Meters. It's been 2 weeks of complete removal from exposure (no power lines or anything else within about 2 miles in every direction) since my 4-day Smart Meter exposure. I'm still getting a lot of symptoms. Feels like I had another stroke-like episode & got more nervous system damage. The scary thing is, I've never had certain symptoms before: ALS-type symptoms, such as temporary paralysis, weak limbs, choking episodes, trouble holding neck up, poorer coordination that I ever got from Lyme, 5x mroe microseizures than I ever experienced from Lyme. Weirdest thing is these developed a few days AFTER removal from exposure. I've been in the off-grid cabin for about 2 weeks & these symptoms persist & I even occasionally still get that buzzing, humming feeling of brain & body being
microwaved, which I got the whole time I was around Smart Meters. Since the towns I'm near will be Smart-Metered by September, I will be a complete hermit by that point; never going to the grocery store, another doctor, or to the library again. It doesn't help that my grandfather is dying of ALS as we speak, as his father did before him, & his best friend. On top of that, I can't tell if the Lyme is predisposing me to be electrically hypersensitive or not. And finally, my stroke-like episodes started happening 1 year after I had my wisdom teeth removed, long enough for bacteria-filled cavitations to develop in the pockets of bone where the teeth had been removed. I've heard these can also predispose a person to electrosensitivity (altho I can't afford the surgery to fix it).

Either way, I just really hope this brief exposure didn't trigger ALS, but if I go by my intuition & remember how it felt, it may sound crazy, but it was like I could FEEL genetic damage being done. Some of the fx were even visible to healthy people, unlike many of the neuro fx of Lyme; after the 4-day, more intense exposure to Smart Meters, my face & ears turned red & my temp was 102.5; it rarely goes above 99, even when I've got the flu. I haven't even stayed in a building with Smart Meter on it; I only stayed in buildings where the NEIGHBORS had them, & they were 100 ft. away.

Not sure what to do; no money & can't get on disability or even SSI, b/c none of my conditions are recognized & I don't have enuf work credits. Soon there will be virtually NO PLACE that I can work. I'm going to try a conductive shielding hood made from a fabric called Thule, and a Silverell hoodie. The company is sending the hood to me for free b/c they understand the severity fo my situation, but then I read the posts on how no shielding seems to work. The company told me that w/ the shielding fabrics, it's still not clear that grounding even works. I'm just praying that this damage is reversible, despite the constant disabling symptoms. Most of all, I pray it's not ALS & it's just damage from Lyme disease, so that if I eventually get the money to treat the Lyme, I'll see the worst of the EHS symptoms (temp. paralysis, choking, increased seizures) diminish. Based on my symptoms, does anyone ahve any ideas as to why the symptoms have persisted so long
after removal from exposure, and most of all, whether or not this could be more Lyme related or more ALS related?

Thanks so much.
-E. Drew

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Thanks for the information, Lizzie. 
 
I appreciate all the info you are always sending us!  (I don't have enough time to read it all, unfortunately, but what I do read is helpful!)
 
I would think (and maybe you might know if this is the case), that strokes could be caused by calcium leakage with the tight junctions not operating correctly.  And perhaps this could lead to clumpy blood via calcium plaques?  Clumpy blood (the medical term would be plaque build up in the blood!  lol) is something I have experienced all my life, but it is not always clumpy.  Sometimes my blood is actually too thin, as well.  If emfs open tjs and cause calcium leakage, and toxin chemical exposure do the same (I think personally for me they seem to--I have greater gut leakage after chemical exposures), then would not the calcium moving thru the blood stream cause plaques which would lead to strokes??? 
 
Thanks again
Just curious,
Diane
 

--- On Sun, 3/27/11, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>
Subject: RE: [eSens] Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw cavitations...(???)
To: [hidden email]
Date: Sunday, March 27, 2011, 1:03 PM


 





Here's something that fits right in with the stroke/seizure info. Dr. Andrew Moulden states:" Ischemia, hypoxia Microcirculation strokes (Mass & Zeta) is a common process to ALL vaccines, heavy metals, toxins, and infectious diseases. " Somewhere else in his information he says that strokes can also be caused from environmental factors. Although he doesn't specifically state (that I have found yet, anyway) that these environmental factors could be non-ionising radiation, the whole thing fits like a glove! I saw him at an anti vaccine seminar, (dvd called: Tolerance Lost) and he had pictures of children/babies where he pinpointed the areas of the face ie: eyes, corners of mouth, etc...that he proved were caused from vaccine injury. Of importance is the "delayed factor"...which I have noticed with myself when exposed to cell phone radiation/wifi etc. It does make sense, that any time the body is assaulted by toxins, be they from vaccines or radiation, such
 severe reactions such as stroke/seizures could occur.
Lizzie





Dr. Andrew Moulden BrainGuard MD - Homeopathy World Community
Jun 15, 2009 ... TOLERANCE LOST VOLUME 1 - First 26 minutes of Volume One from Tolerance Lost - a 3 DVD disk (6 hours run time) series that provides the ...www.homeopathyworldcommunity.com/.../dr-andrew-moulden-brainguard


To: [hidden email]
From: [hidden email]
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 07:57:07 -0700
Subject: Re: [eSens] Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw cavitations...(???)

Hi, E,

Welcome to the group! I am sorry to hear of your substantial problems! You have more than your fair share going on. :(

I also have had the stroke-like (or actual stroke!) seizures you have mentioned, and I do not have either ALS or Lyme disease, that I know of (Heavens, I hope not--my medical file reads like a medical disease dictionary already! ;) ) As to why it would last so long after... I imagine it is a reaction to actual brain damage done while you were near the smart meters. (You mention feeling like genetic damage was being done). That said, while I have had these "seizures" probably approaching 50 times before in my life, they usually clear up after a few weeks or a month and I have little lasting damage. (Not that lasting damage can not occur.) Our bodies do have a remarkable propensity for recovery, generally speaking.

I had a similar thing last summer. I had what medical professionals are now saying was an actual stroke (but I have had the same thing all my life, back to my teens; only this one had the full array of classic symptoms all together--not all of my episodes have--and lasted 6 or 7 hours instead of 2 to 4.) Also, I am nearly 60 now and when I was young, doctors seemed to think I was too young to be having strokes, but now I am of that age where I am prime stroke material, so docs now think these are strokes! (They were probably strokes all along, but we called them seizures back when I was younger.)

I seem to have a bit of residual eye problem from the episode, as well, but nothing extremely bad--sometimes I have blurry vision which lasts a day or 2 and I get a lightning flash in my right eye at times; but it took me a full 2 or 3 weeks to get my strength back after the initial event. I had had a toxic exposure to paint fumes a couple weeks before where I felt like my brain was being fried, and also was having environmental problems which I couldn't identify (a friend thought it could have been toxins in the upper atmosphere from the Gulf oil spill, but there was no way of knowing that was or not the case). I got zapped just prior to the event, by emfs from a passing vehicle which shocked my system. Within a minute or 2, I could feel what felt like switches being turned on and off in the top of my head. A minute or so after that, I got extreme weakness and could just barely make it to my bedroom to lie down. The weakness and other
symptoms which you mention are the same symptoms I have sometimes had. However, the seizures are often also more like a classic stroke. The one last summer included migraine headache, extreme confusion, right-sided weakness, problems walking--I had to drag my right leg, I couldn't see, and I couldn't think of how to speak many words, but knew what I wanted to say.

I might add, I have generally been better in the past decade, which made me think this episode was perhaps due to solar flare activity. During the 90s I had these episodes at least 4 or 5 times a year. I had medical testing of all sorts back then and nobody had a clue what was going on. In contrast, I think I may have had these episodes (also much briefer and less severe) only 2 or 3 times in the decade since.

So, I am writing to calm your fears a bit. I doubt this is worsening ALS or Lyme. And your current symptoms will likely subside in time. I do think it has to do with ES and MCS, but the problem is, there are no doctors for these types of things. If you have a doctor who will listen and try to help you, do go and try to figure it out with him/ her. Maybe today (a decade later than all my testing), they will know more.

I wish you the best. Bless you,
Diane

--- On Wed, 3/23/11, necessejamais <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: necessejamais <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw cavitations...(???)
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 4:39 PM

Salut, all. I've had Lyme disese since age 8 and am now 25. No diagnosis until age 24. Got chemically sensitive at age 21 & now literally feel like I'm dying from the fx of Smart Meters. It's been 2 weeks of complete removal from exposure (no power lines or anything else within about 2 miles in every direction) since my 4-day Smart Meter exposure. I'm still getting a lot of symptoms. Feels like I had another stroke-like episode & got more nervous system damage. The scary thing is, I've never had certain symptoms before: ALS-type symptoms, such as temporary paralysis, weak limbs, choking episodes, trouble holding neck up, poorer coordination that I ever got from Lyme, 5x mroe microseizures than I ever experienced from Lyme. Weirdest thing is these developed a few days AFTER removal from exposure. I've been in the off-grid cabin for about 2 weeks & these symptoms persist & I even occasionally still get that buzzing, humming feeling of brain & body being
microwaved, which I got the whole time I was around Smart Meters. Since the towns I'm near will be Smart-Metered by September, I will be a complete hermit by that point; never going to the grocery store, another doctor, or to the library again. It doesn't help that my grandfather is dying of ALS as we speak, as his father did before him, & his best friend. On top of that, I can't tell if the Lyme is predisposing me to be electrically hypersensitive or not. And finally, my stroke-like episodes started happening 1 year after I had my wisdom teeth removed, long enough for bacteria-filled cavitations to develop in the pockets of bone where the teeth had been removed. I've heard these can also predispose a person to electrosensitivity (altho I can't afford the surgery to fix it).

Either way, I just really hope this brief exposure didn't trigger ALS, but if I go by my intuition & remember how it felt, it may sound crazy, but it was like I could FEEL genetic damage being done. Some of the fx were even visible to healthy people, unlike many of the neuro fx of Lyme; after the 4-day, more intense exposure to Smart Meters, my face & ears turned red & my temp was 102.5; it rarely goes above 99, even when I've got the flu. I haven't even stayed in a building with Smart Meter on it; I only stayed in buildings where the NEIGHBORS had them, & they were 100 ft. away.

Not sure what to do; no money & can't get on disability or even SSI, b/c none of my conditions are recognized & I don't have enuf work credits. Soon there will be virtually NO PLACE that I can work. I'm going to try a conductive shielding hood made from a fabric called Thule, and a Silverell hoodie. The company is sending the hood to me for free b/c they understand the severity fo my situation, but then I read the posts on how no shielding seems to work. The company told me that w/ the shielding fabrics, it's still not clear that grounding even works. I'm just praying that this damage is reversible, despite the constant disabling symptoms. Most of all, I pray it's not ALS & it's just damage from Lyme disease, so that if I eventually get the money to treat the Lyme, I'll see the worst of the EHS symptoms (temp. paralysis, choking, increased seizures) diminish. Based on my symptoms, does anyone ahve any ideas as to why the symptoms have persisted so long
after removal from exposure, and most of all, whether or not this could be more Lyme related or more ALS related?

Thanks so much.
-E. Drew

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Oh, I forgot...  one reason I am asking this is, for those of us who experience these strokes or seizures, we could monitor for thick blood and take an aspirin on the days it was very thick; thereby making the risk factor lower for having a stroke.  Right?


--- On Sun, 3/27/11, Evie <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Evie <[hidden email]>
Subject: RE: [eSens] Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw cavitations...(???)
To: [hidden email]
Date: Sunday, March 27, 2011, 2:22 PM


 



Thanks for the information, Lizzie. 
 
I appreciate all the info you are always sending us!  (I don't have enough time to read it all, unfortunately, but what I do read is helpful!)
 
I would think (and maybe you might know if this is the case), that strokes could be caused by calcium leakage with the tight junctions not operating correctly.  And perhaps this could lead to clumpy blood via calcium plaques?  Clumpy blood (the medical term would be plaque build up in the blood!  lol) is something I have experienced all my life, but it is not always clumpy.  Sometimes my blood is actually too thin, as well.  If emfs open tjs and cause calcium leakage, and toxin chemical exposure do the same (I think personally for me they seem to--I have greater gut leakage after chemical exposures), then would not the calcium moving thru the blood stream cause plaques which would lead to strokes??? 
 
Thanks again
Just curious,
Diane
 

--- On Sun, 3/27/11, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>
Subject: RE: [eSens] Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw cavitations...(???)
To: [hidden email]
Date: Sunday, March 27, 2011, 1:03 PM

 

Here's something that fits right in with the stroke/seizure info. Dr. Andrew Moulden states:" Ischemia, hypoxia Microcirculation strokes (Mass & Zeta) is a common process to ALL vaccines, heavy metals, toxins, and infectious diseases. " Somewhere else in his information he says that strokes can also be caused from environmental factors. Although he doesn't specifically state (that I have found yet, anyway) that these environmental factors could be non-ionising radiation, the whole thing fits like a glove! I saw him at an anti vaccine seminar, (dvd called: Tolerance Lost) and he had pictures of children/babies where he pinpointed the areas of the face ie: eyes, corners of mouth, etc...that he proved were caused from vaccine injury. Of importance is the "delayed factor"...which I have noticed with myself when exposed to cell phone radiation/wifi etc. It does make sense, that any time the body is assaulted by toxins, be they from vaccines or radiation, such
severe reactions such as stroke/seizures could occur.
Lizzie

Dr. Andrew Moulden BrainGuard MD - Homeopathy World Community
Jun 15, 2009 ... TOLERANCE LOST VOLUME 1 - First 26 minutes of Volume One from Tolerance Lost - a 3 DVD disk (6 hours run time) series that provides the ...www.homeopathyworldcommunity.com/.../dr-andrew-moulden-brainguard

To: [hidden email]
From: [hidden email]
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 07:57:07 -0700
Subject: Re: [eSens] Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw cavitations...(???)

Hi, E,

Welcome to the group! I am sorry to hear of your substantial problems! You have more than your fair share going on. :(

I also have had the stroke-like (or actual stroke!) seizures you have mentioned, and I do not have either ALS or Lyme disease, that I know of (Heavens, I hope not--my medical file reads like a medical disease dictionary already! ;) ) As to why it would last so long after... I imagine it is a reaction to actual brain damage done while you were near the smart meters. (You mention feeling like genetic damage was being done). That said, while I have had these "seizures" probably approaching 50 times before in my life, they usually clear up after a few weeks or a month and I have little lasting damage. (Not that lasting damage can not occur.) Our bodies do have a remarkable propensity for recovery, generally speaking.

I had a similar thing last summer. I had what medical professionals are now saying was an actual stroke (but I have had the same thing all my life, back to my teens; only this one had the full array of classic symptoms all together--not all of my episodes have--and lasted 6 or 7 hours instead of 2 to 4.) Also, I am nearly 60 now and when I was young, doctors seemed to think I was too young to be having strokes, but now I am of that age where I am prime stroke material, so docs now think these are strokes! (They were probably strokes all along, but we called them seizures back when I was younger.)

I seem to have a bit of residual eye problem from the episode, as well, but nothing extremely bad--sometimes I have blurry vision which lasts a day or 2 and I get a lightning flash in my right eye at times; but it took me a full 2 or 3 weeks to get my strength back after the initial event. I had had a toxic exposure to paint fumes a couple weeks before where I felt like my brain was being fried, and also was having environmental problems which I couldn't identify (a friend thought it could have been toxins in the upper atmosphere from the Gulf oil spill, but there was no way of knowing that was or not the case). I got zapped just prior to the event, by emfs from a passing vehicle which shocked my system. Within a minute or 2, I could feel what felt like switches being turned on and off in the top of my head. A minute or so after that, I got extreme weakness and could just barely make it to my bedroom to lie down. The weakness and other
symptoms which you mention are the same symptoms I have sometimes had. However, the seizures are often also more like a classic stroke. The one last summer included migraine headache, extreme confusion, right-sided weakness, problems walking--I had to drag my right leg, I couldn't see, and I couldn't think of how to speak many words, but knew what I wanted to say.

I might add, I have generally been better in the past decade, which made me think this episode was perhaps due to solar flare activity. During the 90s I had these episodes at least 4 or 5 times a year. I had medical testing of all sorts back then and nobody had a clue what was going on. In contrast, I think I may have had these episodes (also much briefer and less severe) only 2 or 3 times in the decade since.

So, I am writing to calm your fears a bit. I doubt this is worsening ALS or Lyme. And your current symptoms will likely subside in time. I do think it has to do with ES and MCS, but the problem is, there are no doctors for these types of things. If you have a doctor who will listen and try to help you, do go and try to figure it out with him/ her. Maybe today (a decade later than all my testing), they will know more.

I wish you the best. Bless you,
Diane

--- On Wed, 3/23/11, necessejamais <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: necessejamais <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw cavitations...(???)
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 4:39 PM

Salut, all. I've had Lyme disese since age 8 and am now 25. No diagnosis until age 24. Got chemically sensitive at age 21 & now literally feel like I'm dying from the fx of Smart Meters. It's been 2 weeks of complete removal from exposure (no power lines or anything else within about 2 miles in every direction) since my 4-day Smart Meter exposure. I'm still getting a lot of symptoms. Feels like I had another stroke-like episode & got more nervous system damage. The scary thing is, I've never had certain symptoms before: ALS-type symptoms, such as temporary paralysis, weak limbs, choking episodes, trouble holding neck up, poorer coordination that I ever got from Lyme, 5x mroe microseizures than I ever experienced from Lyme. Weirdest thing is these developed a few days AFTER removal from exposure. I've been in the off-grid cabin for about 2 weeks & these symptoms persist & I even occasionally still get that buzzing, humming feeling of brain & body being
microwaved, which I got the whole time I was around Smart Meters. Since the towns I'm near will be Smart-Metered by September, I will be a complete hermit by that point; never going to the grocery store, another doctor, or to the library again. It doesn't help that my grandfather is dying of ALS as we speak, as his father did before him, & his best friend. On top of that, I can't tell if the Lyme is predisposing me to be electrically hypersensitive or not. And finally, my stroke-like episodes started happening 1 year after I had my wisdom teeth removed, long enough for bacteria-filled cavitations to develop in the pockets of bone where the teeth had been removed. I've heard these can also predispose a person to electrosensitivity (altho I can't afford the surgery to fix it).

Either way, I just really hope this brief exposure didn't trigger ALS, but if I go by my intuition & remember how it felt, it may sound crazy, but it was like I could FEEL genetic damage being done. Some of the fx were even visible to healthy people, unlike many of the neuro fx of Lyme; after the 4-day, more intense exposure to Smart Meters, my face & ears turned red & my temp was 102.5; it rarely goes above 99, even when I've got the flu. I haven't even stayed in a building with Smart Meter on it; I only stayed in buildings where the NEIGHBORS had them, & they were 100 ft. away.

Not sure what to do; no money & can't get on disability or even SSI, b/c none of my conditions are recognized & I don't have enuf work credits. Soon there will be virtually NO PLACE that I can work. I'm going to try a conductive shielding hood made from a fabric called Thule, and a Silverell hoodie. The company is sending the hood to me for free b/c they understand the severity fo my situation, but then I read the posts on how no shielding seems to work. The company told me that w/ the shielding fabrics, it's still not clear that grounding even works. I'm just praying that this damage is reversible, despite the constant disabling symptoms. Most of all, I pray it's not ALS & it's just damage from Lyme disease, so that if I eventually get the money to treat the Lyme, I'll see the worst of the EHS symptoms (temp. paralysis, choking, increased seizures) diminish. Based on my symptoms, does anyone ahve any ideas as to why the symptoms have persisted so long
after removal from exposure, and most of all, whether or not this could be more Lyme related or more ALS related?

Thanks so much.
-E. Drew

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I'm not sure where exactly the towers are here, but I think the closest
is about 2 miles away. You are welcome for a visit, but I don't think it
will help you much. And I think the trip to Australia will cause more
harm than being a bit farther away from a cell phone tower.:-)

Rixta

--
Our website: http://members.westnet.com.au/rixta.francis

There are natural forms of analgesics one can take, that would be far safer for the body. Such as: Marjoram essential oil,Eucalyptus oil, Ginger (there are lots of ginger teas out there- I recommend the organic ones), Lavender oil, Oregano both in oil form and there are Oregano capsules, as well as Peppermint Oil and again there are Peppermint teas, as well as Rosemary Oil. Wintergreen essential oil is also very good for pain. These can all be used transdermally ON the SKIN...as the skin is the body's largest organ, it will absorb a high amt of these oils/ or even teas...but for teas, I would suggest not boiling the water...as the heat will destroy the nutrients in the tea. Warm to mildly hot works. (Hot enough to stick your finger in the water without burning your finger.)
A good one for head-aches is to put a dab of Peppermint Oil on temples and forehead. A good blend for aches/pains is combining equal amts of both Marjoram and Basil Oil, diluted with Olive Oil. Many over the counter drugs come from china...the risk of contamination would be very high, with their track record.
Mind you, the above selection is a great one...being that people respond differently to things...I would venture to say that there is something in the above list of choices that would work for all.....some may respond better to the Peppermint, others to the Ginger, etc. For newbies, I recommend diluting the oils...they -if of good origins, are very potent.
Lizzie
 


To: [hidden email]
From: [hidden email]
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 11:26:32 -0700
Subject: RE: [eSens] Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw cavitations...(???)


 



Oh, I forgot...  one reason I am asking this is, for those of us who experience these strokes or seizures, we could monitor for thick blood and take an aspirin on the days it was very thick; thereby making the risk factor lower for having a stroke.  Right?

--- On Sun, 3/27/11, Evie <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Evie <[hidden email]>
Subject: RE: [eSens] Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw cavitations...(???)
To: [hidden email]
Date: Sunday, March 27, 2011, 2:22 PM

 

Thanks for the information, Lizzie.  
 
I appreciate all the info you are always sending us!  (I don't have enough time to read it all, unfortunately, but what I do read is helpful!)
 
I would think (and maybe you might know if this is the case), that strokes could be caused by calcium leakage with the tight junctions not operating correctly.  And perhaps this could lead to clumpy blood via calcium plaques?  Clumpy blood (the medical term would be plaque build up in the blood!  lol) is something I have experienced all my life, but it is not always clumpy.  Sometimes my blood is actually too thin, as well.  If emfs open tjs and cause calcium leakage, and toxin chemical exposure do the same (I think personally for me they seem to--I have greater gut leakage after chemical exposures), then would not the calcium moving thru the blood stream cause plaques which would lead to strokes???  
 
Thanks again
Just curious,
Diane
 

--- On Sun, 3/27/11, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>
Subject: RE: [eSens] Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw cavitations...(???)
To: [hidden email]
Date: Sunday, March 27, 2011, 1:03 PM

 

Here's something that fits right in with the stroke/seizure info. Dr. Andrew Moulden states:" Ischemia, hypoxia Microcirculation strokes (Mass & Zeta) is a common process to ALL vaccines, heavy metals, toxins, and infectious diseases. " Somewhere else in his information he says that strokes can also be caused from environmental factors. Although he doesn't specifically state (that I have found yet, anyway) that these environmental factors could be non-ionising radiation, the whole thing fits like a glove! I saw him at an anti vaccine seminar, (dvd called: Tolerance Lost) and he had pictures of children/babies where he pinpointed the areas of the face ie: eyes, corners of mouth, etc...that he proved were caused from vaccine injury. Of importance is the "delayed factor"...which I have noticed with myself when exposed to cell phone radiation/wifi etc. It does make sense, that any time the body is assaulted by toxins, be they from vaccines or radiation, such
severe reactions such as stroke/seizures could occur.
Lizzie

Dr. Andrew Moulden BrainGuard MD - Homeopathy World Community
Jun 15, 2009 ... TOLERANCE LOST VOLUME 1 - First 26 minutes of Volume One from Tolerance Lost - a 3 DVD disk (6 hours run time) series that provides the ...www.homeopathyworldcommunity.com/.../dr-andrew-moulden-brainguard

To: [hidden email]
From: [hidden email]
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 07:57:07 -0700
Subject: Re: [eSens] Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw cavitations...(???)

Hi, E,

Welcome to the group! I am sorry to hear of your substantial problems! You have more than your fair share going on. :(

I also have had the stroke-like (or actual stroke!) seizures you have mentioned, and I do not have either ALS or Lyme disease, that I know of (Heavens, I hope not--my medical file reads like a medical disease dictionary already! ;) ) As to why it would last so long after... I imagine it is a reaction to actual brain damage done while you were near the smart meters. (You mention feeling like genetic damage was being done). That said, while I have had these "seizures" probably approaching 50 times before in my life, they usually clear up after a few weeks or a month and I have little lasting damage. (Not that lasting damage can not occur.) Our bodies do have a remarkable propensity for recovery, generally speaking.

I had a similar thing last summer. I had what medical professionals are now saying was an actual stroke (but I have had the same thing all my life, back to my teens; only this one had the full array of classic symptoms all together--not all of my episodes have--and lasted 6 or 7 hours instead of 2 to 4.) Also, I am nearly 60 now and when I was young, doctors seemed to think I was too young to be having strokes, but now I am of that age where I am prime stroke material, so docs now think these are strokes! (They were probably strokes all along, but we called them seizures back when I was younger.)

I seem to have a bit of residual eye problem from the episode, as well, but nothing extremely bad--sometimes I have blurry vision which lasts a day or 2 and I get a lightning flash in my right eye at times; but it took me a full 2 or 3 weeks to get my strength back after the initial event. I had had a toxic exposure to paint fumes a couple weeks before where I felt like my brain was being fried, and also was having environmental problems which I couldn't identify (a friend thought it could have been toxins in the upper atmosphere from the Gulf oil spill, but there was no way of knowing that was or not the case). I got zapped just prior to the event, by emfs from a passing vehicle which shocked my system. Within a minute or 2, I could feel what felt like switches being turned on and off in the top of my head. A minute or so after that, I got extreme weakness and could just barely make it to my bedroom to lie down. The weakness and other
symptoms which you mention are the same symptoms I have sometimes had. However, the seizures are often also more like a classic stroke. The one last summer included migraine headache, extreme confusion, right-sided weakness, problems walking--I had to drag my right leg, I couldn't see, and I couldn't think of how to speak many words, but knew what I wanted to say.

I might add, I have generally been better in the past decade, which made me think this episode was perhaps due to solar flare activity. During the 90s I had these episodes at least 4 or 5 times a year. I had medical testing of all sorts back then and nobody had a clue what was going on. In contrast, I think I may have had these episodes (also much briefer and less severe) only 2 or 3 times in the decade since.

So, I am writing to calm your fears a bit. I doubt this is worsening ALS or Lyme. And your current symptoms will likely subside in time. I do think it has to do with ES and MCS, but the problem is, there are no doctors for these types of things. If you have a doctor who will listen and try to help you, do go and try to figure it out with him/ her. Maybe today (a decade later than all my testing), they will know more.

I wish you the best. Bless you,
Diane

--- On Wed, 3/23/11, necessejamais <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: necessejamais <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw cavitations...(???)
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 4:39 PM

Salut, all. I've had Lyme disese since age 8 and am now 25. No diagnosis until age 24. Got chemically sensitive at age 21 & now literally feel like I'm dying from the fx of Smart Meters. It's been 2 weeks of complete removal from exposure (no power lines or anything else within about 2 miles in every direction) since my 4-day Smart Meter exposure. I'm still getting a lot of symptoms. Feels like I had another stroke-like episode & got more nervous system damage. The scary thing is, I've never had certain symptoms before: ALS-type symptoms, such as temporary paralysis, weak limbs, choking episodes, trouble holding neck up, poorer coordination that I ever got from Lyme, 5x mroe microseizures than I ever experienced from Lyme. Weirdest thing is these developed a few days AFTER removal from exposure. I've been in the off-grid cabin for about 2 weeks & these symptoms persist & I even occasionally still get that buzzing, humming feeling of brain & body being
microwaved, which I got the whole time I was around Smart Meters. Since the towns I'm near will be Smart-Metered by September, I will be a complete hermit by that point; never going to the grocery store, another doctor, or to the library again. It doesn't help that my grandfather is dying of ALS as we speak, as his father did before him, & his best friend. On top of that, I can't tell if the Lyme is predisposing me to be electrically hypersensitive or not. And finally, my stroke-like episodes started happening 1 year after I had my wisdom teeth removed, long enough for bacteria-filled cavitations to develop in the pockets of bone where the teeth had been removed. I've heard these can also predispose a person to electrosensitivity (altho I can't afford the surgery to fix it).

Either way, I just really hope this brief exposure didn't trigger ALS, but if I go by my intuition & remember how it felt, it may sound crazy, but it was like I could FEEL genetic damage being done. Some of the fx were even visible to healthy people, unlike many of the neuro fx of Lyme; after the 4-day, more intense exposure to Smart Meters, my face & ears turned red & my temp was 102.5; it rarely goes above 99, even when I've got the flu. I haven't even stayed in a building with Smart Meter on it; I only stayed in buildings where the NEIGHBORS had them, & they were 100 ft. away.

Not sure what to do; no money & can't get on disability or even SSI, b/c none of my conditions are recognized & I don't have enuf work credits. Soon there will be virtually NO PLACE that I can work. I'm going to try a conductive shielding hood made from a fabric called Thule, and a Silverell hoodie. The company is sending the hood to me for free b/c they understand the severity fo my situation, but then I read the posts on how no shielding seems to work. The company told me that w/ the shielding fabrics, it's still not clear that grounding even works. I'm just praying that this damage is reversible, despite the constant disabling symptoms. Most of all, I pray it's not ALS & it's just damage from Lyme disease, so that if I eventually get the money to treat the Lyme, I'll see the worst of the EHS symptoms (temp. paralysis, choking, increased seizures) diminish. Based on my symptoms, does anyone ahve any ideas as to why the symptoms have persisted so long
after removal from exposure, and most of all, whether or not this could be more Lyme related or more ALS related?

Thanks so much.
-E. Drew

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Hi Lizzie,
 
Thanks for the info.
 
Diane

--- On Sun, 3/27/11, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>
Subject: RE: [eSens] Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw cavitations...(???)
To: [hidden email]
Date: Sunday, March 27, 2011, 6:35 PM


 




There are natural forms of analgesics one can take, that would be far safer for the body. Such as: Marjoram essential oil,Eucalyptus oil, Ginger (there are lots of ginger teas out there- I recommend the organic ones), Lavender oil, Oregano both in oil form and there are Oregano capsules, as well as Peppermint Oil and again there are Peppermint teas, as well as Rosemary Oil. Wintergreen essential oil is also very good for pain. These can all be used transdermally ON the SKIN...as the skin is the body's largest organ, it will absorb a high amt of these oils/ or even teas...but for teas, I would suggest not boiling the water...as the heat will destroy the nutrients in the tea. Warm to mildly hot works. (Hot enough to stick your finger in the water without burning your finger.)
A good one for head-aches is to put a dab of Peppermint Oil on temples and forehead. A good blend for aches/pains is combining equal amts of both Marjoram and Basil Oil, diluted with Olive Oil. Many over the counter drugs come from china...the risk of contamination would be very high, with their track record.
Mind you, the above selection is a great one...being that people respond differently to things...I would venture to say that there is something in the above list of choices that would work for all.....some may respond better to the Peppermint, others to the Ginger, etc. For newbies, I recommend diluting the oils...they -if of good origins, are very potent.
Lizzie


To: [hidden email]
From: [hidden email]
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 11:26:32 -0700
Subject: RE: [eSens] Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw cavitations...(???)

Oh, I forgot... one reason I am asking this is, for those of us who experience these strokes or seizures, we could monitor for thick blood and take an aspirin on the days it was very thick; thereby making the risk factor lower for having a stroke. Right?

--- On Sun, 3/27/11, Evie <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Evie <[hidden email]>
Subject: RE: [eSens] Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw cavitations...(???)
To: [hidden email]
Date: Sunday, March 27, 2011, 2:22 PM

Thanks for the information, Lizzie.

I appreciate all the info you are always sending us! (I don't have enough time to read it all, unfortunately, but what I do read is helpful!)

I would think (and maybe you might know if this is the case), that strokes could be caused by calcium leakage with the tight junctions not operating correctly. And perhaps this could lead to clumpy blood via calcium plaques? Clumpy blood (the medical term would be plaque build up in the blood! lol) is something I have experienced all my life, but it is not always clumpy. Sometimes my blood is actually too thin, as well. If emfs open tjs and cause calcium leakage, and toxin chemical exposure do the same (I think personally for me they seem to--I have greater gut leakage after chemical exposures), then would not the calcium moving thru the blood stream cause plaques which would lead to strokes???

Thanks again
Just curious,
Diane


--- On Sun, 3/27/11, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>
Subject: RE: [eSens] Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw cavitations...(???)
To: [hidden email]
Date: Sunday, March 27, 2011, 1:03 PM

Here's something that fits right in with the stroke/seizure info. Dr. Andrew Moulden states:" Ischemia, hypoxia Microcirculation strokes (Mass & Zeta) is a common process to ALL vaccines, heavy metals, toxins, and infectious diseases. " Somewhere else in his information he says that strokes can also be caused from environmental factors. Although he doesn't specifically state (that I have found yet, anyway) that these environmental factors could be non-ionising radiation, the whole thing fits like a glove! I saw him at an anti vaccine seminar, (dvd called: Tolerance Lost) and he had pictures of children/babies where he pinpointed the areas of the face ie: eyes, corners of mouth, etc...that he proved were caused from vaccine injury. Of importance is the "delayed factor"...which I have noticed with myself when exposed to cell phone radiation/wifi etc. It does make sense, that any time the body is assaulted by toxins, be they from vaccines or radiation, such
severe reactions such as stroke/seizures could occur.
Lizzie

Dr. Andrew Moulden BrainGuard MD - Homeopathy World Community
Jun 15, 2009 ... TOLERANCE LOST VOLUME 1 - First 26 minutes of Volume One from Tolerance Lost - a 3 DVD disk (6 hours run time) series that provides the ...www.homeopathyworldcommunity.com/.../dr-andrew-moulden-brainguard

To: [hidden email]
From: [hidden email]
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 07:57:07 -0700
Subject: Re: [eSens] Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw cavitations...(???)

Hi, E,

Welcome to the group! I am sorry to hear of your substantial problems! You have more than your fair share going on. :(

I also have had the stroke-like (or actual stroke!) seizures you have mentioned, and I do not have either ALS or Lyme disease, that I know of (Heavens, I hope not--my medical file reads like a medical disease dictionary already! ;) ) As to why it would last so long after... I imagine it is a reaction to actual brain damage done while you were near the smart meters. (You mention feeling like genetic damage was being done). That said, while I have had these "seizures" probably approaching 50 times before in my life, they usually clear up after a few weeks or a month and I have little lasting damage. (Not that lasting damage can not occur.) Our bodies do have a remarkable propensity for recovery, generally speaking.

I had a similar thing last summer. I had what medical professionals are now saying was an actual stroke (but I have had the same thing all my life, back to my teens; only this one had the full array of classic symptoms all together--not all of my episodes have--and lasted 6 or 7 hours instead of 2 to 4.) Also, I am nearly 60 now and when I was young, doctors seemed to think I was too young to be having strokes, but now I am of that age where I am prime stroke material, so docs now think these are strokes! (They were probably strokes all along, but we called them seizures back when I was younger.)

I seem to have a bit of residual eye problem from the episode, as well, but nothing extremely bad--sometimes I have blurry vision which lasts a day or 2 and I get a lightning flash in my right eye at times; but it took me a full 2 or 3 weeks to get my strength back after the initial event. I had had a toxic exposure to paint fumes a couple weeks before where I felt like my brain was being fried, and also was having environmental problems which I couldn't identify (a friend thought it could have been toxins in the upper atmosphere from the Gulf oil spill, but there was no way of knowing that was or not the case). I got zapped just prior to the event, by emfs from a passing vehicle which shocked my system. Within a minute or 2, I could feel what felt like switches being turned on and off in the top of my head. A minute or so after that, I got extreme weakness and could just barely make it to my bedroom to lie down. The weakness and other
symptoms which you mention are the same symptoms I have sometimes had. However, the seizures are often also more like a classic stroke. The one last summer included migraine headache, extreme confusion, right-sided weakness, problems walking--I had to drag my right leg, I couldn't see, and I couldn't think of how to speak many words, but knew what I wanted to say.

I might add, I have generally been better in the past decade, which made me think this episode was perhaps due to solar flare activity. During the 90s I had these episodes at least 4 or 5 times a year. I had medical testing of all sorts back then and nobody had a clue what was going on. In contrast, I think I may have had these episodes (also much briefer and less severe) only 2 or 3 times in the decade since.

So, I am writing to calm your fears a bit. I doubt this is worsening ALS or Lyme. And your current symptoms will likely subside in time. I do think it has to do with ES and MCS, but the problem is, there are no doctors for these types of things. If you have a doctor who will listen and try to help you, do go and try to figure it out with him/ her. Maybe today (a decade later than all my testing), they will know more.

I wish you the best. Bless you,
Diane

--- On Wed, 3/23/11, necessejamais <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: necessejamais <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw cavitations...(???)
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 4:39 PM

Salut, all. I've had Lyme disese since age 8 and am now 25. No diagnosis until age 24. Got chemically sensitive at age 21 & now literally feel like I'm dying from the fx of Smart Meters. It's been 2 weeks of complete removal from exposure (no power lines or anything else within about 2 miles in every direction) since my 4-day Smart Meter exposure. I'm still getting a lot of symptoms. Feels like I had another stroke-like episode & got more nervous system damage. The scary thing is, I've never had certain symptoms before: ALS-type symptoms, such as temporary paralysis, weak limbs, choking episodes, trouble holding neck up, poorer coordination that I ever got from Lyme, 5x mroe microseizures than I ever experienced from Lyme. Weirdest thing is these developed a few days AFTER removal from exposure. I've been in the off-grid cabin for about 2 weeks & these symptoms persist & I even occasionally still get that buzzing, humming feeling of brain & body being
microwaved, which I got the whole time I was around Smart Meters. Since the towns I'm near will be Smart-Metered by September, I will be a complete hermit by that point; never going to the grocery store, another doctor, or to the library again. It doesn't help that my grandfather is dying of ALS as we speak, as his father did before him, & his best friend. On top of that, I can't tell if the Lyme is predisposing me to be electrically hypersensitive or not. And finally, my stroke-like episodes started happening 1 year after I had my wisdom teeth removed, long enough for bacteria-filled cavitations to develop in the pockets of bone where the teeth had been removed. I've heard these can also predispose a person to electrosensitivity (altho I can't afford the surgery to fix it).

Either way, I just really hope this brief exposure didn't trigger ALS, but if I go by my intuition & remember how it felt, it may sound crazy, but it was like I could FEEL genetic damage being done. Some of the fx were even visible to healthy people, unlike many of the neuro fx of Lyme; after the 4-day, more intense exposure to Smart Meters, my face & ears turned red & my temp was 102.5; it rarely goes above 99, even when I've got the flu. I haven't even stayed in a building with Smart Meter on it; I only stayed in buildings where the NEIGHBORS had them, & they were 100 ft. away.

Not sure what to do; no money & can't get on disability or even SSI, b/c none of my conditions are recognized & I don't have enuf work credits. Soon there will be virtually NO PLACE that I can work. I'm going to try a conductive shielding hood made from a fabric called Thule, and a Silverell hoodie. The company is sending the hood to me for free b/c they understand the severity fo my situation, but then I read the posts on how no shielding seems to work. The company told me that w/ the shielding fabrics, it's still not clear that grounding even works. I'm just praying that this damage is reversible, despite the constant disabling symptoms. Most of all, I pray it's not ALS & it's just damage from Lyme disease, so that if I eventually get the money to treat the Lyme, I'll see the worst of the EHS symptoms (temp. paralysis, choking, increased seizures) diminish. Based on my symptoms, does anyone ahve any ideas as to why the symptoms have persisted so long
after removal from exposure, and most of all, whether or not this could be more Lyme related or more ALS related?

Thanks so much.
-E. Drew

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You are very welcome.
Lizzie
 


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Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 13:37:35 -0700
Subject: RE: [eSens] Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw cavitations...(???)


 



Hi Lizzie,
 
Thanks for the info.
 
Diane

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From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>
Subject: RE: [eSens] Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw cavitations...(???)
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Date: Sunday, March 27, 2011, 6:35 PM

 

There are natural forms of analgesics one can take, that would be far safer for the body. Such as: Marjoram essential oil,Eucalyptus oil, Ginger (there are lots of ginger teas out there- I recommend the organic ones), Lavender oil, Oregano both in oil form and there are Oregano capsules, as well as Peppermint Oil and again there are Peppermint teas, as well as Rosemary Oil. Wintergreen essential oil is also very good for pain. These can all be used transdermally ON the SKIN...as the skin is the body's largest organ, it will absorb a high amt of these oils/ or even teas...but for teas, I would suggest not boiling the water...as the heat will destroy the nutrients in the tea. Warm to mildly hot works. (Hot enough to stick your finger in the water without burning your finger.)
A good one for head-aches is to put a dab of Peppermint Oil on temples and forehead. A good blend for aches/pains is combining equal amts of both Marjoram and Basil Oil, diluted with Olive Oil. Many over the counter drugs come from china...the risk of contamination would be very high, with their track record.
Mind you, the above selection is a great one...being that people respond differently to things...I would venture to say that there is something in the above list of choices that would work for all.....some may respond better to the Peppermint, others to the Ginger, etc. For newbies, I recommend diluting the oils...they -if of good origins, are very potent.
Lizzie

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Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 11:26:32 -0700
Subject: RE: [eSens] Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw cavitations...(???)

Oh, I forgot... one reason I am asking this is, for those of us who experience these strokes or seizures, we could monitor for thick blood and take an aspirin on the days it was very thick; thereby making the risk factor lower for having a stroke. Right?

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From: Evie <[hidden email]>
Subject: RE: [eSens] Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw cavitations...(???)
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Date: Sunday, March 27, 2011, 2:22 PM

Thanks for the information, Lizzie.

I appreciate all the info you are always sending us! (I don't have enough time to read it all, unfortunately, but what I do read is helpful!)

I would think (and maybe you might know if this is the case), that strokes could be caused by calcium leakage with the tight junctions not operating correctly. And perhaps this could lead to clumpy blood via calcium plaques? Clumpy blood (the medical term would be plaque build up in the blood! lol) is something I have experienced all my life, but it is not always clumpy. Sometimes my blood is actually too thin, as well. If emfs open tjs and cause calcium leakage, and toxin chemical exposure do the same (I think personally for me they seem to--I have greater gut leakage after chemical exposures), then would not the calcium moving thru the blood stream cause plaques which would lead to strokes???

Thanks again
Just curious,
Diane

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From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>
Subject: RE: [eSens] Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw cavitations...(???)
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Date: Sunday, March 27, 2011, 1:03 PM

Here's something that fits right in with the stroke/seizure info. Dr. Andrew Moulden states:" Ischemia, hypoxia Microcirculation strokes (Mass & Zeta) is a common process to ALL vaccines, heavy metals, toxins, and infectious diseases. " Somewhere else in his information he says that strokes can also be caused from environmental factors. Although he doesn't specifically state (that I have found yet, anyway) that these environmental factors could be non-ionising radiation, the whole thing fits like a glove! I saw him at an anti vaccine seminar, (dvd called: Tolerance Lost) and he had pictures of children/babies where he pinpointed the areas of the face ie: eyes, corners of mouth, etc...that he proved were caused from vaccine injury. Of importance is the "delayed factor"...which I have noticed with myself when exposed to cell phone radiation/wifi etc. It does make sense, that any time the body is assaulted by toxins, be they from vaccines or radiation, such
severe reactions such as stroke/seizures could occur.
Lizzie

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Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 07:57:07 -0700
Subject: Re: [eSens] Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw cavitations...(???)

Hi, E,

Welcome to the group! I am sorry to hear of your substantial problems! You have more than your fair share going on. :(

I also have had the stroke-like (or actual stroke!) seizures you have mentioned, and I do not have either ALS or Lyme disease, that I know of (Heavens, I hope not--my medical file reads like a medical disease dictionary already! ;) ) As to why it would last so long after... I imagine it is a reaction to actual brain damage done while you were near the smart meters. (You mention feeling like genetic damage was being done). That said, while I have had these "seizures" probably approaching 50 times before in my life, they usually clear up after a few weeks or a month and I have little lasting damage. (Not that lasting damage can not occur.) Our bodies do have a remarkable propensity for recovery, generally speaking.

I had a similar thing last summer. I had what medical professionals are now saying was an actual stroke (but I have had the same thing all my life, back to my teens; only this one had the full array of classic symptoms all together--not all of my episodes have--and lasted 6 or 7 hours instead of 2 to 4.) Also, I am nearly 60 now and when I was young, doctors seemed to think I was too young to be having strokes, but now I am of that age where I am prime stroke material, so docs now think these are strokes! (They were probably strokes all along, but we called them seizures back when I was younger.)

I seem to have a bit of residual eye problem from the episode, as well, but nothing extremely bad--sometimes I have blurry vision which lasts a day or 2 and I get a lightning flash in my right eye at times; but it took me a full 2 or 3 weeks to get my strength back after the initial event. I had had a toxic exposure to paint fumes a couple weeks before where I felt like my brain was being fried, and also was having environmental problems which I couldn't identify (a friend thought it could have been toxins in the upper atmosphere from the Gulf oil spill, but there was no way of knowing that was or not the case). I got zapped just prior to the event, by emfs from a passing vehicle which shocked my system. Within a minute or 2, I could feel what felt like switches being turned on and off in the top of my head. A minute or so after that, I got extreme weakness and could just barely make it to my bedroom to lie down. The weakness and other
symptoms which you mention are the same symptoms I have sometimes had. However, the seizures are often also more like a classic stroke. The one last summer included migraine headache, extreme confusion, right-sided weakness, problems walking--I had to drag my right leg, I couldn't see, and I couldn't think of how to speak many words, but knew what I wanted to say.

I might add, I have generally been better in the past decade, which made me think this episode was perhaps due to solar flare activity. During the 90s I had these episodes at least 4 or 5 times a year. I had medical testing of all sorts back then and nobody had a clue what was going on. In contrast, I think I may have had these episodes (also much briefer and less severe) only 2 or 3 times in the decade since.

So, I am writing to calm your fears a bit. I doubt this is worsening ALS or Lyme. And your current symptoms will likely subside in time. I do think it has to do with ES and MCS, but the problem is, there are no doctors for these types of things. If you have a doctor who will listen and try to help you, do go and try to figure it out with him/ her. Maybe today (a decade later than all my testing), they will know more.

I wish you the best. Bless you,
Diane

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From: necessejamais <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw cavitations...(???)
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Date: Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 4:39 PM

Salut, all. I've had Lyme disese since age 8 and am now 25. No diagnosis until age 24. Got chemically sensitive at age 21 & now literally feel like I'm dying from the fx of Smart Meters. It's been 2 weeks of complete removal from exposure (no power lines or anything else within about 2 miles in every direction) since my 4-day Smart Meter exposure. I'm still getting a lot of symptoms. Feels like I had another stroke-like episode & got more nervous system damage. The scary thing is, I've never had certain symptoms before: ALS-type symptoms, such as temporary paralysis, weak limbs, choking episodes, trouble holding neck up, poorer coordination that I ever got from Lyme, 5x mroe microseizures than I ever experienced from Lyme. Weirdest thing is these developed a few days AFTER removal from exposure. I've been in the off-grid cabin for about 2 weeks & these symptoms persist & I even occasionally still get that buzzing, humming feeling of brain & body being
microwaved, which I got the whole time I was around Smart Meters. Since the towns I'm near will be Smart-Metered by September, I will be a complete hermit by that point; never going to the grocery store, another doctor, or to the library again. It doesn't help that my grandfather is dying of ALS as we speak, as his father did before him, & his best friend. On top of that, I can't tell if the Lyme is predisposing me to be electrically hypersensitive or not. And finally, my stroke-like episodes started happening 1 year after I had my wisdom teeth removed, long enough for bacteria-filled cavitations to develop in the pockets of bone where the teeth had been removed. I've heard these can also predispose a person to electrosensitivity (altho I can't afford the surgery to fix it).

Either way, I just really hope this brief exposure didn't trigger ALS, but if I go by my intuition & remember how it felt, it may sound crazy, but it was like I could FEEL genetic damage being done. Some of the fx were even visible to healthy people, unlike many of the neuro fx of Lyme; after the 4-day, more intense exposure to Smart Meters, my face & ears turned red & my temp was 102.5; it rarely goes above 99, even when I've got the flu. I haven't even stayed in a building with Smart Meter on it; I only stayed in buildings where the NEIGHBORS had them, & they were 100 ft. away.

Not sure what to do; no money & can't get on disability or even SSI, b/c none of my conditions are recognized & I don't have enuf work credits. Soon there will be virtually NO PLACE that I can work. I'm going to try a conductive shielding hood made from a fabric called Thule, and a Silverell hoodie. The company is sending the hood to me for free b/c they understand the severity fo my situation, but then I read the posts on how no shielding seems to work. The company told me that w/ the shielding fabrics, it's still not clear that grounding even works. I'm just praying that this damage is reversible, despite the constant disabling symptoms. Most of all, I pray it's not ALS & it's just damage from Lyme disease, so that if I eventually get the money to treat the Lyme, I'll see the worst of the EHS symptoms (temp. paralysis, choking, increased seizures) diminish. Based on my symptoms, does anyone ahve any ideas as to why the symptoms have persisted so long
after removal from exposure, and most of all, whether or not this could be more Lyme related or more ALS related?

Thanks so much.
-E. Drew

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