Do a google search:
Smart Meters use WIFI There is a lot of info about it. Not good news, at all. Donnie ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [hidden email] [hidden email] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [hidden email] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ |
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I made the decision tonight to move from Tracy, CA in the central Valley as
there is something here in this town playing hell on my head. I'm certain of it. I think it's smart meters and cell towers. From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of factsnow Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 11:39 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: [eSens] Smart Meter Health Effects The Dark Side of 'Smart' Meters http://www.youtube.com:80/watch?v=FLeCTaSG2-U The Truth about Smart Meters SEPTEMBER 14 - 2010 California Producer: Jazz-elle Lasiuk http://www.communitytv.org/programs/online/truth-about-smart-meters Sick from Smart Meters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_I1YQBMgr9Y http://www.kcra.com/station/25639450/detail.html Stratford Smart Meters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aC588Opd5jU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhJeFFAvbbw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsuP_WBBr2c Fly by Night Smart Meter Installation Company abandon before protest http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY1vW4-40A8 'Smart' Meters - Dumb Idea? Pt. I EON http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DG8T9gDclkY WIFI - Smart Meters use WIFI, look at other places WIFI is effecting people recently in the news : HESA WIFI Hearings OCT 28 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8kJYHSuig8 WiFi in schools proven dangerous http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KN7VetsCR2I Global TV WiFi In Schools Oct. 15 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpmdPW_pOHE Wi-Fi In Schools - Chex TV - Peterborough, Ontario http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEEnDwOjc7E <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEEnDwOjc7E&NR=1> &NR=1 WIFI Genetic Mutation - Barrie Trower http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ao4Z5-RYTQ Cell Phone Antennas on Apartment Rooftops and their Health Effects http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G3CWrgDS5E Websites on Smart Meters http://stopsmartmeters.wordpress.com/ http://weepnews.blogspot.com/search/label/smart%20meters http://emrabc.ca/?page_id=710 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Hello all. It's 4:30AM and I can't sleep. Buzzing noise in my head is so
loud and debilitating that I can't sleep at all. I'm getting dressed and driving away from my home to get a break. I found in those many links sent in yesterday about the smart meter one that explains my symptoms to the tee. I too was never sensitive but now it feels like my heads on fire. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G3CWrgDS5E [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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So sorry Neal. I can relate. Loni
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Good decision Neil. Happy that you CAN move! Finding a place where you can avoid all of this is a problem as well. Loni
--- On Mon, 11/15/10, Neil R <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Neil R <[hidden email]> Subject: RE: [eSens] Smart Meter Health Effects To: [hidden email] Date: Monday, November 15, 2010, 10:41 PM I made the decision tonight to move from Tracy, CA in the central Valley as there is something here in this town playing hell on my head. I'm certain of it. I think it's smart meters and cell towers. From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of factsnow Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 11:39 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: [eSens] Smart Meter Health Effects The Dark Side of 'Smart' Meters http://www.youtube.com:80/watch?v=FLeCTaSG2-U The Truth about Smart Meters SEPTEMBER 14 - 2010 California Producer: Jazz-elle Lasiuk http://www.communitytv.org/programs/online/truth-about-smart-meters Sick from Smart Meters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_I1YQBMgr9Y http://www.kcra.com/station/25639450/detail.html Stratford Smart Meters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aC588Opd5jU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhJeFFAvbbw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsuP_WBBr2c Fly by Night Smart Meter Installation Company abandon before protest http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY1vW4-40A8 'Smart' Meters - Dumb Idea? Pt. I EON http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DG8T9gDclkY WIFI - Smart Meters use WIFI, look at other places WIFI is effecting people recently in the news : HESA WIFI Hearings OCT 28 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8kJYHSuig8 WiFi in schools proven dangerous http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KN7VetsCR2I Global TV WiFi In Schools Oct. 15 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpmdPW_pOHE Wi-Fi In Schools - Chex TV - Peterborough, Ontario http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEEnDwOjc7E <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEEnDwOjc7E&NR=1> &NR=1 WIFI Genetic Mutation - Barrie Trower http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ao4Z5-RYTQ Cell Phone Antennas on Apartment Rooftops and their Health Effects http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G3CWrgDS5E Websites on Smart Meters http://stopsmartmeters.wordpress.com/ http://weepnews.blogspot.com/search/label/smart%20meters http://emrabc.ca/?page_id=710 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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I kept waking up the last 2 nights with that same feeling. Damn Samrt Meters are killing me
--- In [hidden email], "Neil R" <ndrofca@...> wrote: > > Hello all. It's 4:30AM and I can't sleep. Buzzing noise in my head is so > loud and debilitating that I can't sleep at all. I'm getting dressed and > driving away from my home to get a break. > > I found in those many links sent in yesterday about the smart meter one that > explains my symptoms to the tee. I too was never sensitive but now it feels > like my heads on fire. > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G3CWrgDS5E > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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What a terrible night. Buzzing followed me wherever I went. Got really no sleep. Not really sure where to go Loni. My life is in crisis right now from this. When the buzzing and head pressure are at their worst I want to die. I know I need to move but where as you said. Going to go sleep over at my parents tonight for a test. Wish me luck.
Neil From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Loni Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 7:07 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: RE: [eSens] Smart Meter Health Effects Good decision Neil. Happy that you CAN move! Finding a place where you can avoid all of this is a problem as well. Loni --- On Mon, 11/15/10, Neil R <[hidden email] <mailto:ndrofca%40comcast.net> > wrote: From: Neil R <[hidden email] <mailto:ndrofca%40comcast.net> > Subject: RE: [eSens] Smart Meter Health Effects To: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> Date: Monday, November 15, 2010, 10:41 PM I made the decision tonight to move from Tracy, CA in the central Valley as there is something here in this town playing hell on my head. I'm certain of it. I think it's smart meters and cell towers. From: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:[hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of factsnow Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 11:39 AM To: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: [eSens] Smart Meter Health Effects The Dark Side of 'Smart' Meters http://www.youtube.com:80/watch?v=FLeCTaSG2-U The Truth about Smart Meters SEPTEMBER 14 - 2010 California Producer: Jazz-elle Lasiuk http://www.communitytv.org/programs/online/truth-about-smart-meters Sick from Smart Meters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_I1YQBMgr9Y http://www.kcra.com/station/25639450/detail.html Stratford Smart Meters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aC588Opd5jU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhJeFFAvbbw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsuP_WBBr2c Fly by Night Smart Meter Installation Company abandon before protest http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY1vW4-40A8 'Smart' Meters - Dumb Idea? Pt. I EON http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DG8T9gDclkY WIFI - Smart Meters use WIFI, look at other places WIFI is effecting people recently in the news : HESA WIFI Hearings OCT 28 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8kJYHSuig8 WiFi in schools proven dangerous http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KN7VetsCR2I Global TV WiFi In Schools Oct. 15 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpmdPW_pOHE Wi-Fi In Schools - Chex TV - Peterborough, Ontario http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEEnDwOjc7E <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEEnDwOjc7E <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEEnDwOjc7E&NR=1> &NR=1> &NR=1 WIFI Genetic Mutation - Barrie Trower http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ao4Z5-RYTQ Cell Phone Antennas on Apartment Rooftops and their Health Effects http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G3CWrgDS5E Websites on Smart Meters http://stopsmartmeters.wordpress.com/ http://weepnews.blogspot.com/search/label/smart%20meters http://emrabc.ca/?page_id=710 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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What is the best and cheapest way to detect all the RF and EMF going on
around your home. I'd like to know what I'm dealing with. To me it feels like there are several factors. I live in a home with a large number of homes all very close to one another. They ALL have smartmeters. I also believe there are other RF sources. I've also found most of the friends and family I know don't think it's a big deal and my head pain must be caused by something else. But I deal with it daily so I am the best person to put the facts together. Thanks Neil From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of torch369 Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 11:01 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: [eSens] Re: Buzzing noise I kept waking up the last 2 nights with that same feeling. Damn Samrt Meters are killing me --- In [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> , "Neil R" <ndrofca@...> wrote: > > Hello all. It's 4:30AM and I can't sleep. Buzzing noise in my head is so > loud and debilitating that I can't sleep at all. I'm getting dressed and > driving away from my home to get a break. > > I found in those many links sent in yesterday about the smart meter one that > explains my symptoms to the tee. I too was never sensitive but now it feels > like my heads on fire. > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G3CWrgDS5E > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Hi Maureen, wow what a site I’d be having foil over my ears. But thanks for the help.
Neil --- On Tue, 11/16/10, Neil R <ndrofca@comcast.net <mailto:ndrofca%40comcast.net> > wrote: From: Neil R <ndrofca@comcast.net <mailto:ndrofca%40comcast.net> > Subject: [eSens] Buzzing noise To: eSens@yahoogroups.com <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> Date: Tuesday, November 16, 2010, 12:53 PM Hello all. It's 4:30AM and I can't sleep. Buzzing noise in my head is so loud and debilitating that I can't sleep at all. I'm getting dressed and driving away from my home to get a break. I found in those many links sent in yesterday about the smart meter one that explains my symptoms to the tee. I too was never sensitive but now it feels like my heads on fire. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G3CWrgDS5E |
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In Frey studies, shielding the temple area helped. But
that may have been at higher GHz. On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Neil R <ndrofca@comcast.net> wrote: > > > Hi Maureen, wow what a site Id be having foil over my ears. But thanks for > the help. > > Neil > |
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Hi Neil,
I know how you feel, what you wrote reminds me of where I was in 1994. Are your parents more rural, more trees, less towers, less power lines, and less neighbors?? Those are the things to look for that you can see. I do wish you luck. Stewart http://seaHorseCorral.org/ehs1.html -- Neil R wrote: > What a terrible night. Buzzing followed me wherever I went. Got really no sleep. Not really sure where to go Loni. My life is in crisis right now from this. When the buzzing and head pressure are at their worst I want to die. I know I need to move but where as you said. Going to go sleep over at my parents tonight for a test. Wish me luck. > |
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Neil R wrote:
> What is the best and cheapest way to detect all the RF and EMF going on > around your home. I'd like to know what I'm dealing with. > Have you looked at my page? I review several meters in depth. > To me it feels like there are several factors. I live in a home with a > large number of homes all very close to one another. They ALL have > smartmeters. > And likely lots of other electronics, including wifi, and wii, and texting on a celphone... the list grows longer each year. Stewart http://seaHorseCorral.org/ehs1.html#evaluate |
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Good Luck Neil I am thinking about you & Steve. My head is also feeling like something is sucking my brains out. Feels hollow; hurts. I am dealing with all my neighbors smart meters & there is a receiver near my house too. Plus all of those cell towers. I am literally getting fried to death.
I also am having excessive saliva. I guess the glands are inflamed. Get sort of a sour taste in my mouth. Anyone experiencing that? --- On Tue, 11/16/10, Neil R <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Neil R <[hidden email]> Subject: RE: [eSens] Smart Meter Health Effects To: [hidden email] Date: Tuesday, November 16, 2010, 1:16 PM What a terrible night. Buzzing followed me wherever I went. Got really no sleep. Not really sure where to go Loni. My life is in crisis right now from this. When the buzzing and head pressure are at their worst I want to die. I know I need to move but where as you said. Going to go sleep over at my parents tonight for a test. Wish me luck. Neil From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Loni Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 7:07 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: RE: [eSens] Smart Meter Health Effects Good decision Neil. Happy that you CAN move! Finding a place where you can avoid all of this is a problem as well. Loni --- On Mon, 11/15/10, Neil R <[hidden email] <mailto:ndrofca%40comcast.net> > wrote: From: Neil R <[hidden email] <mailto:ndrofca%40comcast.net> > Subject: RE: [eSens] Smart Meter Health Effects To: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> Date: Monday, November 15, 2010, 10:41 PM I made the decision tonight to move from Tracy, CA in the central Valley as there is something here in this town playing hell on my head. I'm certain of it. I think it's smart meters and cell towers. From: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:[hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of factsnow Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 11:39 AM To: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: [eSens] Smart Meter Health Effects The Dark Side of 'Smart' Meters http://www.youtube.com:80/watch?v=FLeCTaSG2-U The Truth about Smart Meters SEPTEMBER 14 - 2010 California Producer: Jazz-elle Lasiuk http://www.communitytv.org/programs/online/truth-about-smart-meters Sick from Smart Meters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_I1YQBMgr9Y http://www.kcra.com/station/25639450/detail.html Stratford Smart Meters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aC588Opd5jU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhJeFFAvbbw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsuP_WBBr2c Fly by Night Smart Meter Installation Company abandon before protest http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY1vW4-40A8 'Smart' Meters - Dumb Idea? Pt. I EON http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DG8T9gDclkY WIFI - Smart Meters use WIFI, look at other places WIFI is effecting people recently in the news : HESA WIFI Hearings OCT 28 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8kJYHSuig8 WiFi in schools proven dangerous http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KN7VetsCR2I Global TV WiFi In Schools Oct. 15 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpmdPW_pOHE Wi-Fi In Schools - Chex TV - Peterborough, Ontario http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEEnDwOjc7E <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEEnDwOjc7E <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEEnDwOjc7E&NR=1> &NR=1> &NR=1 WIFI Genetic Mutation - Barrie Trower http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ao4Z5-RYTQ Cell Phone Antennas on Apartment Rooftops and their Health Effects http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G3CWrgDS5E Websites on Smart Meters http://stopsmartmeters.wordpress.com/ http://weepnews.blogspot.com/search/label/smart%20meters http://emrabc.ca/?page_id=710 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Thanks Loni,
I got home last night from my parents in a neighboring city called Livermore after being away from my home and city for a few hours. It was then that I was sold on the fact that what I'm experiencing is localized. As soon as I drove down my block and got to my home I started to feel the buzzing and head pressure coming back. After a few hours in the house I was ready to pull the trigger. So, what next? Do I call my city authorities and ask them whats going on in my area? Do I find out if any one of the owners of the cell towers upped the signal strenght recently? Is there a service or company or group of people that will come out and measure the RF or EMF if someone complains to the point I am? Thought, Maybe with all the recent activities towards the smartmeter, cell tower and EMF suffering there should be a service of this testing funded by donations. This wa the right equipment is used and that data can help make a case. Just a thought. Anyway, what is everyone doing after they get to the same point I'm at? Hope to hear from someone, Neil --- In [hidden email], Loni <loni326@...> wrote: > > Good Luck Neil I am thinking about you & Steve. My head is also feeling like something is sucking my brains out. Feels hollow; hurts. I am dealing with all my neighbors smart meters & there is a receiver near my house too. Plus all of those cell towers. I am literally getting fried to death. > Â > I also am having excessive saliva. I guess the glands are inflamed. Get sort of a sour taste in my mouth. Anyone experiencing that? > Â > > > --- On Tue, 11/16/10, Neil R <ndrofca@...> wrote: > > > From: Neil R <ndrofca@...> > Subject: RE: [eSens] Smart Meter Health Effects > To: [hidden email] > Date: Tuesday, November 16, 2010, 1:16 PM > > > Â > > > > What a terrible night. Buzzing followed me wherever I went. Got really no sleep. Not really sure where to go Loni. My life is in crisis right now from this. When the buzzing and head pressure are at their worst I want to die. I know I need to move but where as you said. Going to go sleep over at my parents tonight for a test. Wish me luck. > > Neil > > From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Loni > Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 7:07 AM > To: [hidden email] > Subject: RE: [eSens] Smart Meter Health Effects > > Good decision Neil. Happy that you CAN move! Finding a place where you can avoid all of this is a problem as well. Loni > > --- On Mon, 11/15/10, Neil R <ndrofca@... <mailto:ndrofca%40comcast.net> > wrote: > > From: Neil R <ndrofca@... <mailto:ndrofca%40comcast.net> > > Subject: RE: [eSens] Smart Meter Health Effects > To: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> > Date: Monday, November 15, 2010, 10:41 PM > > I made the decision tonight to move from Tracy, CA in the central Valley as > there is something here in this town playing hell on my head. I'm certain of > it. I think it's smart meters and cell towers. > > From: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:[hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of > factsnow > Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 11:39 AM > To: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> > Subject: [eSens] Smart Meter Health Effects > > The Dark Side of 'Smart' Meters > http://www.youtube.com:80/watch?v=FLeCTaSG2-U > > The Truth about Smart Meters > SEPTEMBER 14 - 2010 > California Producer: Jazz-elle Lasiuk > http://www.communitytv.org/programs/online/truth-about-smart-meters > > Sick from Smart Meters > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_I1YQBMgr9Y > http://www.kcra.com/station/25639450/detail.html > > Stratford Smart Meters > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aC588Opd5jU > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhJeFFAvbbw > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsuP_WBBr2c > > Fly by Night Smart Meter Installation Company abandon before protest > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY1vW4-40A8 > > 'Smart' Meters - Dumb Idea? Pt. I EON > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DG8T9gDclkY > > WIFI - Smart Meters use WIFI, > look at other places WIFI is effecting people recently in the news : > > HESA WIFI Hearings OCT 28 2010 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8kJYHSuig8 > > WiFi in schools proven dangerous > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KN7VetsCR2I > > Global TV WiFi In Schools Oct. 15 2010 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpmdPW_pOHE > > Wi-Fi In Schools - Chex TV - Peterborough, Ontario > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEEnDwOjc7E > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEEnDwOjc7E <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEEnDwOjc7E&NR=1> &NR=1> &NR=1 > > WIFI Genetic Mutation - Barrie Trower > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ao4Z5-RYTQ > > Cell Phone Antennas on Apartment Rooftops and their Health Effects > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G3CWrgDS5E > > Websites on Smart Meters > > http://stopsmartmeters.wordpress.com/ > http://weepnews.blogspot.com/search/label/smart%20meters > http://emrabc.ca/?page_id=710 > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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Neil,
I'm definitely not a specialist on measuring, just my thoughts here, You let a specialist come over and measure your house: if it's a good specialist you'll know a lot more and a lot faster than you investing much more time and more money in different meters... You could buy one meter, to measure high frequent emf sources, a good one costs 100-200 dollars I guess? Problem is imo that even if you measure you don't know much more. Esp. not with one meter and not much experience/knowledge. And we all react differently to different emf-sources... And what you measure is not really the harmful part... It is very possible you could measure lower in House A than in House B and still feel much better es-wise in House B. Measuring dirty emf is probably useful in the house. I don't much about this, I think you can do that with an AM-radio... Imo best: -trial and error: like you suggest: go sleep there and see how you feel -look around: less houses = less wifi/...; mountains do seem to reflect also some of the emf... -check where all the cellphone towers are of that area (I think there is a website that collects all of them for the US) -put off fuse box at night -make sure grounding of electricity outlets is done properly and maybe ground yourself at night gr, Stephen. --- In [hidden email], "Neil R" <ndrofca@...> wrote: > > What is the best and cheapest way to detect all the RF and EMF going on > around your home. I'd like to know what I'm dealing with. > > To me it feels like there are several factors. I live in a home with a > large number of homes all very close to one another. They ALL have > smartmeters. > > I also believe there are other RF sources. I've also found most of the > friends and family I know don't think it's a big deal and my head pain must > be caused by something else. But I deal with it daily so I am the best > person to put the facts together. > > > > Thanks > > Neil > > > > From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of > torch369 > Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 11:01 AM > To: [hidden email] > Subject: [eSens] Re: Buzzing noise > > > > > > I kept waking up the last 2 nights with that same feeling. Damn Samrt Meters > are killing me > > --- In [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> , "Neil R" > <ndrofca@> wrote: > > > > Hello all. It's 4:30AM and I can't sleep. Buzzing noise in my head is so > > loud and debilitating that I can't sleep at all. I'm getting dressed and > > driving away from my home to get a break. > > > > I found in those many links sent in yesterday about the smart meter one > that > > explains my symptoms to the tee. I too was never sensitive but now it > feels > > like my heads on fire. > > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G3CWrgDS5E > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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> Anyway, what is everyone doing after they get to the same point I'm > at?
2.5 years ago I was in the same situation or actually worse, they installed city/local wifi on the Belgian coast. From that particular day I simply had to move, I felt as getting a heart attack, it was only later I found out from that day the wifi was active... Then stayed in b&b's and farm for 5 months, until I found sth low emf to rent... On that moment I couldn't stand that wifi-signal, now I often go to the Belgian coast and can stand the wifi there much better now. Stephen. --- In [hidden email], "Neil" <ndrofca@...> wrote: > > Thanks Loni, > I got home last night from my parents in a neighboring city called Livermore after being away from my home and city for a few hours. It was then that I was sold on the fact that what I'm experiencing is localized. As soon as I drove down my block and got to my home I started to feel the buzzing and head pressure coming back. After a few hours in the house I was ready to pull the trigger. > > So, what next? > Do I call my city authorities and ask them whats going on in my area? > Do I find out if any one of the owners of the cell towers upped the signal strenght recently? > Is there a service or company or group of people that will come out and measure the RF or EMF if someone complains to the point I am? Thought, Maybe with all the recent activities towards the smartmeter, cell tower and EMF suffering there should be a service of this testing funded by donations. This wa the right equipment is used and that data can help make a case. Just a thought. > > Anyway, what is everyone doing after they get to the same point I'm at? > > Hope to hear from someone, > Neil > > > --- In [hidden email], Loni <loni326@> wrote: > > > > Good Luck Neil I am thinking about you & Steve. My head is also feeling like something is sucking my brains out. Feels hollow; hurts. I am dealing with all my neighbors smart meters & there is a receiver near my house too. Plus all of those cell towers. I am literally getting fried to death. > > Â > > I also am having excessive saliva. I guess the glands are inflamed. Get sort of a sour taste in my mouth. Anyone experiencing that? > > Â > > > > > > --- On Tue, 11/16/10, Neil R <ndrofca@> wrote: > > > > > > From: Neil R <ndrofca@> > > Subject: RE: [eSens] Smart Meter Health Effects > > To: [hidden email] > > Date: Tuesday, November 16, 2010, 1:16 PM > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > What a terrible night. Buzzing followed me wherever I went. Got really no sleep. Not really sure where to go Loni. My life is in crisis right now from this. When the buzzing and head pressure are at their worst I want to die. I know I need to move but where as you said. Going to go sleep over at my parents tonight for a test. Wish me luck. > > > > Neil > > > > From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Loni > > Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 7:07 AM > > To: [hidden email] > > Subject: RE: [eSens] Smart Meter Health Effects > > > > Good decision Neil. Happy that you CAN move! Finding a place where you can avoid all of this is a problem as well. Loni > > > > --- On Mon, 11/15/10, Neil R <ndrofca@ <mailto:ndrofca%40comcast.net> > wrote: > > > > From: Neil R <ndrofca@ <mailto:ndrofca%40comcast.net> > > > Subject: RE: [eSens] Smart Meter Health Effects > > To: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> > > Date: Monday, November 15, 2010, 10:41 PM > > > > I made the decision tonight to move from Tracy, CA in the central Valley as > > there is something here in this town playing hell on my head. I'm certain of > > it. I think it's smart meters and cell towers. > > > > From: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:[hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of > > factsnow > > Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 11:39 AM > > To: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> > > Subject: [eSens] Smart Meter Health Effects > > > > The Dark Side of 'Smart' Meters > > http://www.youtube.com:80/watch?v=FLeCTaSG2-U > > > > The Truth about Smart Meters > > SEPTEMBER 14 - 2010 > > California Producer: Jazz-elle Lasiuk > > http://www.communitytv.org/programs/online/truth-about-smart-meters > > > > Sick from Smart Meters > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_I1YQBMgr9Y > > http://www.kcra.com/station/25639450/detail.html > > > > Stratford Smart Meters > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aC588Opd5jU > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhJeFFAvbbw > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsuP_WBBr2c > > > > Fly by Night Smart Meter Installation Company abandon before protest > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY1vW4-40A8 > > > > 'Smart' Meters - Dumb Idea? Pt. I EON > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DG8T9gDclkY > > > > WIFI - Smart Meters use WIFI, > > look at other places WIFI is effecting people recently in the news : > > > > HESA WIFI Hearings OCT 28 2010 > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8kJYHSuig8 > > > > WiFi in schools proven dangerous > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KN7VetsCR2I > > > > Global TV WiFi In Schools Oct. 15 2010 > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpmdPW_pOHE > > > > Wi-Fi In Schools - Chex TV - Peterborough, Ontario > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEEnDwOjc7E > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEEnDwOjc7E <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEEnDwOjc7E&NR=1> &NR=1> &NR=1 > > > > WIFI Genetic Mutation - Barrie Trower > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ao4Z5-RYTQ > > > > Cell Phone Antennas on Apartment Rooftops and their Health Effects > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G3CWrgDS5E > > > > Websites on Smart Meters > > > > http://stopsmartmeters.wordpress.com/ > > http://weepnews.blogspot.com/search/label/smart%20meters > > http://emrabc.ca/?page_id=710 > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > |
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Wow, Stephen. My story actually goes back to about 7 years ago when I started having odd health issues happening to me. Started with anxiety, 911 several times for heart issues that ended up being panic attacks. This went on for several years. I spent several times in the hospital for symptoms drs could not diagnose. To central nervous symptom problems. Was taking several drugs. Worst thing in all this is most people either don't believe you or could care less since its not happening to them. Now I've gotten off all the drugs and just dealing. Life is getting to difficult. Lots has happened between 77 when I started working on computers to now. Especially wireless.
Neil ----- Reply message ----- From: "stephen_vandevijvere" <[hidden email]> Date: Tue, Nov 16, 2010 5:44 pm Subject: [eSens] Re: Smart Meter Health Effects To: <[hidden email]> > Anyway, what is everyone doing after they get to the same point I'm > at? 2.5 years ago I was in the same situation or actually worse, they installed city/local wifi on the Belgian coast. From that particular day I simply had to move, I felt as getting a heart attack, it was only later I found out from that day the wifi was active... Then stayed in b&b's and farm for 5 months, until I found sth low emf to rent... On that moment I couldn't stand that wifi-signal, now I often go to the Belgian coast and can stand the wifi there much better now. Stephen. --- In [hidden email], "Neil" <ndrofca@...> wrote: > > Thanks Loni, > I got home last night from my parents in a neighboring city called Livermore after being away from my home and city for a few hours. It was then that I was sold on the fact that what I'm experiencing is localized. As soon as I drove down my block and got to my home I started to feel the buzzing and head pressure coming back. After a few hours in the house I was ready to pull the trigger. > > So, what next? > Do I call my city authorities and ask them whats going on in my area? > Do I find out if any one of the owners of the cell towers upped the signal strenght recently? > Is there a service or company or group of people that will come out and measure the RF or EMF if someone complains to the point I am? Thought, Maybe with all the recent activities towards the smartmeter, cell tower and EMF suffering there should be a service of this testing funded by donations. This wa the right equipment is used and that data can help make a case. Just a thought. > > Anyway, what is everyone doing after they get to the same point I'm at? > > Hope to hear from someone, > Neil > > > --- In [hidden email], Loni <loni326@> wrote: > > > > Good Luck Neil I am thinking about you & Steve. My head is also feeling like something is sucking my brains out. Feels hollow; hurts. I am dealing with all my neighbors smart meters & there is a receiver near my house too.. Plus all of those cell towers. I am literally getting fried to death. > > Â > > I also am having excessive saliva. I guess the glands are inflamed. Get sort of a sour taste in my mouth. Anyone experiencing that? > > Â > > > > > > --- On Tue, 11/16/10, Neil R <ndrofca@> wrote: > > > > > > From: Neil R <ndrofca@> > > Subject: RE: [eSens] Smart Meter Health Effects > > To: [hidden email] > > Date: Tuesday, November 16, 2010, 1:16 PM > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > What a terrible night. Buzzing followed me wherever I went. Got really no sleep. Not really sure where to go Loni. My life is in crisis right now from this. When the buzzing and head pressure are at their worst I want to die. I know I need to move but where as you said. Going to go sleep over at my parents tonight for a test. Wish me luck. > > > > Neil > > > > From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Loni > > Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 7:07 AM > > To: [hidden email] > > Subject: RE: [eSens] Smart Meter Health Effects > > > > Good decision Neil. Happy that you CAN move! Finding a place where you can avoid all of this is a problem as well. Loni > > > > --- On Mon, 11/15/10, Neil R <ndrofca@ <mailto:ndrofca%40comcast.net> > wrote: > > > > From: Neil R <ndrofca@ <mailto:ndrofca%40comcast.net> > > > Subject: RE: [eSens] Smart Meter Health Effects > > To: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> > > Date: Monday, November 15, 2010, 10:41 PM > > > > I made the decision tonight to move from Tracy, CA in the central Valley as > > there is something here in this town playing hell on my head. I'm certain of > > it. I think it's smart meters and cell towers. > > > > From: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:[hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of > > factsnow > > Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 11:39 AM > > To: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> > > Subject: [eSens] Smart Meter Health Effects > > > > The Dark Side of 'Smart' Meters > > http://www.youtube.com:80/watch?v=FLeCTaSG2-U > > > > The Truth about Smart Meters > > SEPTEMBER 14 - 2010 > > California Producer: Jazz-elle Lasiuk > > http://www.communitytv.org/programs/online/truth-about-smart-meters > > > > Sick from Smart Meters > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_I1YQBMgr9Y > > http://www.kcra.com/station/25639450/detail.html > > > > Stratford Smart Meters > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aC588Opd5jU > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhJeFFAvbbw > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsuP_WBBr2c > > > > Fly by Night Smart Meter Installation Company abandon before protest > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY1vW4-40A8 > > > > 'Smart' Meters - Dumb Idea? Pt. I EON > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DG8T9gDclkY > > > > WIFI - Smart Meters use WIFI, > > look at other places WIFI is effecting people recently in the news : > > > > HESA WIFI Hearings OCT 28 2010 > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8kJYHSuig8 > > > > WiFi in schools proven dangerous > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KN7VetsCR2I > > > > Global TV WiFi In Schools Oct. 15 2010 > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpmdPW_pOHE > > > > Wi-Fi In Schools - Chex TV - Peterborough, Ontario > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEEnDwOjc7E > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEEnDwOjc7E <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEEnDwOjc7E&NR=1> &NR=1> &NR=1 > > > > WIFI Genetic Mutation - Barrie Trower > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ao4Z5-RYTQ > > > > Cell Phone Antennas on Apartment Rooftops and their Health Effects > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G3CWrgDS5E > > > > Websites on Smart Meters > > > > http://stopsmartmeters.wordpress.com/ > > http://weepnews.blogspot.com/search/label/smart%20meters > > http://emrabc.ca/?page_id=710 > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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I have a cellsensor and entech meter, I'm thinking of getting an electrosmog meter also
--- In [hidden email], "Neil R" <ndrofca@...> wrote: > > What is the best and cheapest way to detect all the RF and EMF going on > around your home. I'd like to know what I'm dealing with. > > To me it feels like there are several factors. I live in a home with a > large number of homes all very close to one another. They ALL have > smartmeters. > > I also believe there are other RF sources. I've also found most of the > friends and family I know don't think it's a big deal and my head pain must > be caused by something else. But I deal with it daily so I am the best > person to put the facts together. > > > > Thanks > > Neil > > > > From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of > torch369 > Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 11:01 AM > To: [hidden email] > Subject: [eSens] Re: Buzzing noise > > > > > > I kept waking up the last 2 nights with that same feeling. Damn Samrt Meters > are killing me > > --- In [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> , "Neil R" > <ndrofca@> wrote: > > > > Hello all. It's 4:30AM and I can't sleep. Buzzing noise in my head is so > > loud and debilitating that I can't sleep at all. I'm getting dressed and > > driving away from my home to get a break. > > > > I found in those many links sent in yesterday about the smart meter one > that > > explains my symptoms to the tee. I too was never sensitive but now it > feels > > like my heads on fire. > > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G3CWrgDS5E > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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