Sleeping on grounded cloth to reduce inflamation test

Well this weekend I drove an 8 foot grounding rod into the ground and
ran a wire to the bed where I safety pinned some conductive cloth that I
got from Walmart onto the sheets. I think I may try to sleep on it
tonight. I first dug a hole into the ground and pounded the rod down
into the hole. I put some material over the rod that blocks microwaves
and then filled the hole with rocks. I still don't see how the wire
(mine has some shielding) will not pick up currents in the atmosphere
and cause them to also make it to the conductive cloth that I sleep on.  
I layed down on it for a little while. I became very very relaxed.  
When I came in here to my computer and sat down on a metal chair I
touched the chair and got a shock. I would like to hear from the person
who posted about the 339 dollar product that removes inflamation. How
did sleeping on this make you feel? Is there any shielding they were
using to keep the wire from picking up frequencies in the atmosphere?  
Any other suggestions or input here? Thanks.

I am not the person that originally talked about the inflammation but I
bought one and have been sleeping for a week on the barefoot pad.
http://www.sleepingearthed.com/
I am having some chest discomfort and I can't tell if it is from the
barefoot pad yet. I have it plugged into the wall ground with their
outlet connector. I am going to try to use their outside ground stake
too and see if I can actually get a low reading on the body voltage. I
was unable to get a low reading when I made my own copper grounding
rod.

I too think that there is so much man made shit running through the
earth that how can we filter out the bad stuff and still get the
so-called grounding and free electron benefits?
I am still exploring and don't have a definitive answer yet on the
barefoot pad.

I will say that when I was sleeping on the velostat and silver mesh
material clipped to a grounding wire in my wall socket, that really
gave me chest pain in the morning. I don't recommend that! (additional
variables are that my bedroom walls are painted with copper paint and
grounded to the outlets. I wonder if the shit flying through the air is
traveling from the walls through the ground in the wall sockets and
ultimately through me. I wonder if there is a way to filter that out.
Anybody have an idea how to do that?
Andrew

On Jan 27, 2007, at 7:51 PM, quaixemen wrote:

> I am having some chest discomfort

I too get chest discomfort when near EMF,
especially power lines.

The cause may be acid reflux/heartburn. Something is
messed up with the autonomic nervous system reacting
to the EMF.

Been taking Prilosec for several months and now
the pains are not so acute anymore. Months ago,
just about anything caused clnching chest pains.

Eli

---
Hi, Andrew and Quaixemen,

I will do my best to answer your questions. I am not the one
who first posted the information about sleeping earthed. I don't
know who posted it...all I remember seeing was an address for
a website, which I responded to. I bought the expensive mattress
pad, grounding wire and grounding device to plug into the wall
socket.

I wrote about the amazing experience of placing my feet on the pad
and having my right hip bone move into place. It has stayed in
place, and I believe that most of the inflammation is gone from my hip
that formed from being out of place for so long...maybe years.

The next thing that I noticed was that the edema that I had been
troubled with for many, many years was completely gone in less than
a week of sleeping earthed, and still is. Since I am an extremely
sensitive person I noticed a lot of tingling in my feet and legs
initially. I believe that I was actually feeling the free electrons
moving into my body,looking for free radical molecules to attach to.
Free radicals are caused from molecules losing an electron from oxygen
or toxins or whatever. Sometimes this tingling, almost pins and
needles feeling,got quite uncomfortable for me, but my husband didn't
experience this. After awhile the tingling would be reduced and I
would feel toasty warm. Both my husband and I noticed that our feet
would get warm quite quickly and stayed warm all night, but not
uncomfortably so.

I have never had any problem going to sleep quickly, and have been
able to sleep any time, anywhere. My husband, on the other hand has
always had a more difficult time getting to sleep. One of the things
mentioned on the www.sleepingearthed.com site is that people,when
sleeping grounded, usually get to sleep much faster and sleep through
the night. Getting to sleep quickly happened for my husband, but the
opposite thing happened for me. Because of the tingling in my legs
and feet it was much harder for me to get to sleep. Also, whereas I
used to need 9 hours of sleep a night and often took an afternoon nap,
as well, now I was waking totally refreshed after only 6 hours of
sleep and no longer napping in the afternoon. I other words, my
energy has soared.

After three weeks, we lent our carbon mattress pad and the wall
grounding plug to some relatives who were interested in buying one
for themselves. So, I got the bright idea to use the grounding wire
and grounding stake, that also came with the mattress pad,and attach
it to our regular mattress pad and sheet and put the stake into the
ground outside.

We bought some connectors and alligator clips for this purpose, and
I think it works even better than the original expensive mattress pad.
Now, our whole bed is grounded. At first I had even more trouble
getting to sleep because I was absorbing the free electrons through
my whole body, not just my lower legs and feet.

You can read my earlier post about how we attached the grounding wire
to the bed and to the ground. If anyone is interested I can give
the exact parts that we bought at Radio Shack. We spent about $12.

After we did this successfully, I heard from someone else that bought
the following grounding products from another site, and has had good
results. I will post the information without disclosing his name
because I don't have permission to disclose it, not that he would
object, I just haven't asked him.

Less EMF <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: "Less EMF" <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: lessemf.com online order
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 12:26:11 -0500

> Date : 12 Jan 2007 - 11:15

> Product : Quantity : Price
> a224 Deep Sleep Sheet Full : 1 : 79.95
> a295-3 Ground Cable, plug-gator : 1 : 6.00
> a291-50 Ground Stake Kit 50 ft : 1 : 29.95
> a295-gc Ground Cable, gator-clamp : 1 : 6.00
> Subtotal : 121.90
> Shipping : 11.90
> TOTAL : 133.80
 
As I said before, I think that the grounding sheet is entirely
unnecessary. This is the website that I bought the Ground Cable,
gator-clamp from for $6.00 plus $2.00 shipping. It is a good price,
but now that I know how it is made I think we can do it even cheaper.
This is what we grounded our guest bed with. I think is works very
well.

I really suggest that you read all you can on the sleepingearthed
site. There is a lot of good information there even if you don't want
to buy their expensive products. One thing they say is that the free
electrons are pretty much on the Earth's surface and just a short
distance into the Earth, so it is entirely unnecessary to put an
8 ft. grounding stake attached to a grounding wire into the Earth.
Also,it should just be touching the earth, not enclosed in rocks. The
grounding stake cannot suck up free electrons from rocks, but from the
Earth itself. Just make sure that your grounding stake is in a sunny
location. They recommend a garden,flower or otherwise. We put ours
into a patch of rich grass that gets sun for at least half the
daylight hours.  

I have no answer for Andrew's copper walls. I have no idea how
that may or may not affect any of this. The information that I have
read from the sleepingearthed site is that one should not double
ground your mattress. In other words, do not use both the grounding
stake outside and the grounding device in the wall socket on the same
bed.

You realize this is still a very new Science...about two years old.
So, it is still pretty much experimental, experiential and subjective.
A large number of doctors and Scientists in many different fields are
now starting to believe that all of our dis-eases are caused from
inflammation. The body uses inflammation to protect itself initially,
but then the inflammation creates more problems for the body if it
sticks around and doesn't clear up in a timely manner. One of the
greatest benefits of sleeping earthed, or grounded, is that it can
help the body rid itself of inflammation.

I hopes this helps.
Best Regards,
Phyllicia


In [hidden email], Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@...> wrote: that
> > I
> > got from Walmart onto the sheets. I think I may try to sleep on it
> > tonight. I first dug a hole into the ground and pounded the rod down
> > into the hole. I put some material over the rod that blocks
microwaves
> > and then filled the hole with rocks. I still don't see how the wire
> > (mine has some shielding) will not pick up currents in the atmosphere
> > and cause them to also make it to the conductive cloth that I
sleep on.

Hi Again,

One question that I failed to answer...Yes, the ground wires that I have used are
definitely shielded.

About your heart pain Andrew, I don't know if this is true for you or not, but I feel
that sleeping earthed has helped my heart. I had suffered from two floppy valves
as a result of taking Phen-fen for only a very short time. This was discovered by
Echo gram. I have had this problem for several years.

I took one round of a homeopathic remedy to remove the Phen-fen from my system. That made it a lot better, but I still had an audible click in my heart...
not audible to anyone but me. Without any other treatment that is completely
gone. I tell people that my heart runs like a Rolls Royce now, smooth and quiet.
I don't know for sure that the grounding had anything to do with it, but I did have
a bit of aching of the heart when I first started sleeping earthed. I don't have
any anymore. But please don't take my word for it. It may or may not mean
you are getting rid of inflammation in your heart and it is healing.
Phyllicia

Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> wrote: I am not the person that originally talked about the inflammation but I
bought one and have been sleeping for a week on the barefoot pad.
http://www.sleepingearthed.com/
I am having some chest discomfort and I can't tell if it is from the
barefoot pad yet. I have it plugged into the wall ground with their
outlet connector. I am going to try to use their outside ground stake
too and see if I can actually get a low reading on the body voltage. I
was unable to get a low reading when I made my own copper grounding
rod.

I too think that there is so much man made shit running through the
earth that how can we filter out the bad stuff and still get the
so-called grounding and free electron benefits?
I am still exploring and don't have a definitive answer yet on the
barefoot pad.

I will say that when I was sleeping on the velostat and silver mesh
material clipped to a grounding wire in my wall socket, that really
gave me chest pain in the morning. I don't recommend that! (additional
variables are that my bedroom walls are painted with copper paint and
grounded to the outlets. I wonder if the shit flying through the air is
traveling from the walls through the ground in the wall sockets and
ultimately through me. I wonder if there is a way to filter that out.
Anybody have an idea how to do that?
Andrew

On Jan 27, 2007, at 7:51 PM, quaixemen wrote:






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According to Jeanne Gallick, the creator of the EarthCalm products,
you don't need to put a grounding rod deep into the ground; all you
need is a wire connected to a living plant in a ceramic pot on a
wooden table.

See the EarthCalm Innovations section half way down the page
http://www.earthcalm.com/basics.htm

I haven't tried this because I don't need to, but it could work. If
you live in an apartment, this may be your only option if you want to
ground your bed.

The EarthCalm wrap also looks interesting. Doesn't cost much, either,
so it may be worth trying.

Gilligan

While this technique may have some type of non-scientific effect, it does not constitute electrical grounding.

Emil

----- Original Message -----
From: "gilligan_joy" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 9:09 AM
Subject: [eSens] Re: Sleeping on grounded cloth to reduce inflamation test

> While this technique may have some type of non-scientific effect, it
does not constitute electrical grounding.
>
> Emil

Yes, it is not solid grounding into the earth, but if it works it
works. Science is ignorant of how a lot of things work. The only
"proof" of truth or hoax in this case is by trying it.

Gilligan

> The EarthCalm wrap also looks interesting. Doesn't cost much, either,
> so it may be worth trying.

One clarification is needed on the "Earthcalm Wrap" (described at
http://www.earthcalm.com/basics.htm) -- does this require the
user to have an Earthcalm plug-in unit in addition to the
extention cords? If so, then it is not so inexpensive.

Marc

> One clarification is needed on the "Earthcalm Wrap" (described at
> http://www.earthcalm.com/basics.htm) -- does this require the
> user to have an Earthcalm plug-in unit in addition to the
> extention cords? If so, then it is not so inexpensive.
>
> Marc
>
Here is your clarification:

I sent EarthCalm the following question:

"Does the EarthCalm Wrap technique require the use of an EarthCalm
Home Protector or other device in order to be effective?"

This is EarthCalm's answer:

"The wrap technique will use the ability of AC current to block out
any DC type voltage. It is independent of our products."

"Note that AC current blocks out DC type voltages therefore this is
the reason we do not ground to the earth's magnetic field naturally
while in our homes, as the magnetic field is similar to DC voltage. If
you are highly affected by hi tension wires or cell phone
towers/microwaves then the wrap will be effective for you."

--- In [hidden email], "gilligan_joy" <gjoy97@...> wrote:
>
Hi everyone,

The whole concept which Earthcalm uses seems totally backwards to
me. They admit that humans function more closely to the magnetic
energy of the Earth, so why in the world would one function better
being exposed to Alternating current instead of direct current?

The reason that so many of our household appliances cause us problems
is because the alternating current disrupts the natural, direct and
steady current that our bodies produce.

I can't prove it, but I am convinced that the reason that the
batteries and magnets that I use on appliances, phones, etc. no longer
switch me off or cause me problems is because they change the output
of the appliances, phones, etc. from AC to DC. They have to be
placed properly for them to work. Some people have put batteries in
front of or next to an appliance and expected them to work...that
does not work, and I never said that it did.

I am always very careful how I place the magnets and batteries and
what I place them on. For example, one should never put a magnet on
the TV or computer...batteries only. I use magnets, usually South
side touching on simple cell phones, and things like electric pencil
sharpeners. I would not use one on a cell phone that had all the
bells and whistles, camera, etc. I would think that it could possibly
damage that type of cell phone.

This is my two cents on this issue for whatever it is worth. To
me the information and effect for me has been priceless, but others
seem to think that it is worth no more than it costs which isn't much.
> >Best Regards,
Phyllicia




One clarification is needed on the "Earthcalm Wrap" (described at

--- In [hidden email], "phylliciah" <phylliciah@...> wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> The whole concept which Earthcalm uses seems totally backwards to
> me. They admit that humans function more closely to the magnetic
> energy of the Earth, so why in the world would one function better
> being exposed to Alternating current instead of direct current?

Hi Phyllicia,

Yes, I found the statement from EarthCalm a bit confusing. I sent them
another email with the following question:

"I'm a little confused. The first para says that the wrap technique
uses AC current to block out DC voltage, but the second para says that
the earth's magnetic field is similar to DC voltage (which we don't
want blocked-out). It just seems like you made two contradictory
statements. I think I know what you mean, but could you possibly state
it more clearly?"

My guess is that the technique of wrapping the bed with a plugged-in
extension cord may somehow neutralize the effects of the ambient AC in
the room, thus allowing a better connection to the earth's magnetic
field. I really don't understand how that could work; it's not
intuitive. But for the price of a long extension cord it may be worth
trying.

Gilligan

Here is a clearer answer from EarthCalm:

"Yes, it is confusing and I am sorry I was not clear. you are already
surrounded by AC current in the house. therefore the detrimental
aspect of electricity has already been introduced. By using the wrap
you are not increasing the detrimental aspect which is blocking out
the grounding to the earth's magnetic field as that has already been
done, however you are increasing the positive aspect which is to block
out MANMADE DC voltage. so there is an extra enhancement to block out
more manmade DC voltages."

Still kind of unclear, I think, but better.

Gilligan

--- In [hidden email], "gilligan_joy" <gjoy97@...> wrote:
>

Hi again,

MAN MADE DC would include batteries, which I find to be helpful to
block out the AC voltage coming into the room. So I still think
that what they say is confusing. A grounding cloth could be helpful
if it somehow ground one to the Earth, but may not do what they
think it does concerning AC-DC. Perhaps the Earth wrap fabric serves
as some kind of cover, which protects from AC voltage touching a
person. This, I suppose could be helpful if one was covered by
it or wrapped in it while sleeping.

Phyllicia

Hello,

*positive aspect which is to block out MANMADE DC voltage.*

What is that: MANMADE DC voltage?

A person may have an increased body tension, but this is always AC, and can
be measured with a multimeter and a grounding wire in Volts.

All kinds of elektrosmog fields, even the high frequency fields of mobile
phones and masts are trensformed in the body in AC currents.

Ideal body tension is 30 mV.
I measure normally 300-800 mV.
With an electrical blanket that may be 4.000 mV.
And I measured once a woman on a waterbed with 55.000 mV.

Static (DC) magnetic fields from metal parts and mattresses may also result
in increased body AC currents.

The only manmade DC fields, as I see it, are static electrical fields from
for instance plastic floorings, carpets or silk curtains, etc.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
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----- Original Message -----
From: "gilligan_joy" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 20:47
Subject: [eSens] Re: Sleeping on grounded cloth to reduce inflamation test

> *positive aspect which is to block out MANMADE DC voltage.*
>
> What is that: MANMADE DC voltage?

Yes, I totally agree. The second reply from EarthCalm is clearer than
the first, but I don't understand the reasoning. I don't know what is
wrong with manmade DC voltage.

Gilligan

>> What is that: MANMADE DC voltage?
>
> Yes, I totally agree. The second reply from EarthCalm is clearer than
> the first, but I don't understand the reasoning. I don't know what is
> wrong with manmade DC voltage.

It seems like almost every electrical appliance has an AC->DC transformer
in it, so doesn't this count as "manmade DC voltage"?

Marc

I asked EarthCalm for more clarification and this was the answer:

"Sources of manmade DC are cell phone towers, microwave towers, hi volt
tension/hi volt transmission towers (the big silver ones you see
everywhere, especially while travelling on the roads), and i believe
radar towers (like at airports) and most of the equipment on airplanes
and oh yes electrical generating plants...."

I guess manmade DC voltage sources can be pulsed, according to the
EarthCalm definition of DC voltage. I'm surprised that she considers
hi tension transmission towers DC voltage sources, but I don't know
anything about them.

Gilligan

Hello,

I do not know what they mean by microwave towers, but cell phone towers
radiate pulsed electromagnetic waves, i.e. 900 MHz, or 1800 MHz or 2050 MHz.
With DC we always mean NO frequency at all.

So, we may conclude, that EarthCalm does not know what they are talking
about.
As is quite often the case with such companies that sell stuff, but do not
know anything about their own properties.
They only know how their cash register works.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
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----- Original Message -----
From: "gilligan_joy" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 21:14
Subject: [eSens] Manmade DC Voltage Sources

> So, we may conclude, that EarthCalm does not know what they are talking
> about. As is quite often the case with such companies that sell stuff, but do
> not know anything about their own properties.
> They only know how their cash register works.

Well, that's a bit harsh. The Earthcalm pendants are one of the most
effective EMF protection devices I've ever tried, which considering
the number I've tried, is saying something.

It's also the only device that my wife ever noticed anything from...

However, I find the insulating effect of the pendant to be too much for
extended use. I wish there was a less-strong version of it, as I
might be able to handle that...

Marc