Sleeping on grounded cloth to reduce inflamation test

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Re: Manmade DC Voltage Sources

gilligan_joy-2
> Hello,
> ....
> With DC we always mean NO frequency at all.
>
> So, we may conclude, that EarthCalm does not know what they are
talking
> about.
> As is quite often the case with such companies that sell stuff,
but do not
> know anything about their own properties.
> They only know how their cash register works.
>
> Greetings,
> Charles Claessens

Yes Charles,

I have to say that I was not impressed with the responses I received
from EarthCalm. I think that most people assume DC is not pulsed;
that is my working definition of it. The responses I received were
from a salesperson, not the creator of the EarthCalm devices, but
still I would expect clearer answers than the ones I received.
However, I do know that EarthCalm devices seem to work very well for
me, and I don't think that EarthCalm is trying to scam people.

Gilligan

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Re: Sleeping on grounded cloth to reduce inflamation test

PUK
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Charles I have a digital volt meter ie with 2 probes and various settings.
Can you explain how to test body voltagr so that I may perform this on myself.

Thanks

Paul


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Re: Sleeping on grounded cloth to reduce inflamation test

charles-4
Hello Paul,

for being compatible, the multimeter should have an input resitance of 10
MOhm, and an input capacitor of <100 pF.

The black connector should be connected to a ground.
The red connector should have some sort of handelectrode (a rod or a tube).

The person should lie on a bed (so is not grounded) and holds the
handelectrode.
The multimeter is set for AC voltage.
Select the scale accordingly.

This is according to the book.

Personnally I also check with the person standing aside the bed, which is
NOT according to the book.
If the readings are now lower, that means that the bed is damaging the body.
If the readings are higher, it could mean, that the person is picking up
more high frequency signals from f.i. phone masts.

Ideal is 30 mV.
Normal is 300-800 mV.

Be also aware that sleeping on a grounded sheet may inhibit other
elektrosmog effects, like the coupling of electrical fields from
neighbouring sources, and unwanted potential differences.
Although the electrical tension (in Volt) may go down, however the field
strength (in Volt/meter) may go up.
For instance the Austrian Institute for Building Biology has done some tests
regarding this matter.

So I prefer to sleep in a bed without any metal or electrically guiding
material, whether it is grounded or not.
I have done some tests myself with such materials over and under the
mattress, with electrosensible persons, and my advice is to stay away from
that.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
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----- Original Message -----
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To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 21:41
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Sleeping on grounded cloth to reduce inflamation
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> Charles I have a digital volt meter ie with 2 probes and various
> settings.
> Can you explain how to test body voltagr so that I may perform this on
> myself.
>
> Thanks
>
> Paul
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

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Re: Manmade DC Voltage Sources

Garth Hitchens
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> "Sources of manmade DC are cell phone towers, microwave towers, hi
> volt
> tension/hi volt transmission towers (the big silver ones you see
> everywhere, especially while travelling on the roads), and i believe
> radar towers (like at airports) and most of the equipment on airplanes
> and oh yes electrical generating plants...."

How frustrating. There is nothing about the answer from the
EarthCalm representative that makes any sense from a scientific point
of view, yet it is being billed as a scientific answer using well-
accepted scientific terms.

This kind of talk is exactly why so few people take ES seriously.

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Re: Sleeping on grounded cloth to reduce inflamation test

skrzn
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There is nothing wrong with DC voltage IF it is really pure DC, such a batteries put out.
However, all AC/DC transformers in the gadgets we plug in the wall socket put out some
AC ripple which is then filtered to get very close to pure DC.
Sometimes the filter might be defective, then there is AC hum which is probably not harmful.

Maybe EarthCalm means that any conductor, whether or not it is carrrying voltage, can re-
radiate an induced frequency to which some are sensitive.

William







--- In [hidden email], "gilligan_joy" <gjoy97@...> wrote:

>
> > *positive aspect which is to block out MANMADE DC voltage.*
> >
> > What is that: MANMADE DC voltage?
>
> Yes, I totally agree. The second reply from EarthCalm is clearer than
> the first, but I don't understand the reasoning. I don't know what is
> wrong with manmade DC voltage.
>
> Gilligan
>

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Re: Manmade DC Voltage Sources

Marc Martin
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> How frustrating. There is nothing about the answer from the
> EarthCalm representative that makes any sense from a scientific point
> of view, yet it is being billed as a scientific answer using well-
> accepted scientific terms.
>
> This kind of talk is exactly why so few people take ES seriously.

Actually, I think that kind of talk is why so few people take
EMF protection devices seriously... :-)

Taking ES seriously, well that's a different matter entirely.
Nobody can comprehend how using a cellphone or computer could
possibly be painful. I wouldn't believe it myself, if I wasn't
experiencing it myself...

Marc

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